Saintp: I understand your point of view but you don't have to blame people who see their future outside Nigeria. The people who should inspire and lead this country to greatness don't even believe in the country. From the President to senators, governors, ministers to the least political leaders go to hospital abroad, have their children school abroad, vacation abroad, have properties abroad etc. We are soon entering graduation period, by May June, you will see these idiotic leaders showcasing themselves with their convocating children abroad while the average Nigeria languish in dilapidated schools and you expect an average Nigeria not to aspire to go there? It is not all about money
Rian Stone is of the opinion that men just want contentment in a marriage so they learn to put up with what they have. Women on the other hand, seek to be happy and no matter how happy they are, there'll always be someone or something else that can make them happier.
Read his tweet below; "Men seek contentment while women seek happiness. The latter can never be because there is always something that will make you MORE happy.
Why are 70% of divorces initiated by women? Because the guy was content but the women was not "happy"."
hybeenoni: @ Chiboy I just filled the online application form for the renewal of passport and my question is this:
present address is different from permanent address i filled, will this affect me in any way because I wish to collect it from my present address and nor from permanent address.
Saff: power of the vagina. I keep on telling you men, but you don’t listen. Stop losing all your common sense because of vagina, women will not be able to manipulate you and drain your pockets dry.
You never tell me anything na, just hearing from you.
prechbills1: some nigerian guys eh... They can't purchase something of 500k for their parents but they can purchase things of 5m for their girlfriends because of "hole"...
ell77: Don't really want to get too personal on this forum, as I'm sure you can understand. But my parents, brothers and husband are all Nigerian and in Britain. Myself and my brothers were born and bred here. As a married woman, with children I can't carry my family of 5 and squat in someone's house when we already have a home in UK, that would be unwise of me. We are planning to purchase a home there. This is the first step. Even if we don't live there for some reason property is a good investment (if done well), I am flexible as I will most definitely have to gauge my family's experience so I would never sell all my worldly possessions and move without testing the waters and have a backup to the backup plan!
But I do know many Nigerians who have sold everything they had, quit jobs (instead of taking a sabbatical) and fled to UK, Canada etc. I believe there is risk in everything you do. A wise person will list out all of those risks and put contingencies in place in case things don't go according to plan or circumstances or aspirations change. Which they can and often do.
Anyways, I wish you success in all your plans.
How many Nigerians rushing to Canada have good plans? If people discourage you from going abroad, don't argue. Simply ask then why, then list all the reasons they put on a [b]Risk Register, one by one, in your own time, assess the likelihood of it happening to you, how to guard against it, and whether it would really be the end of the world if that terrible thing they talked about actually happened to become a reality for you. Then wherever you go, you should be fine. It is much easier to plan for risks/problems/disadvantages you are aware about. Most likely the people complaining to you were never given the opportunity to hear of these problems or they decided not to listen themselves. Be wise.
ell77: HeWrites, I opted in for youth service in Nigeria and worked in Oshodi, Lagos for the year, I used Okada and Danfo to go to work every day, I fetched water from a communal well when the communal tap was not working and carried the buckets up three flights of stairs to the apartements. I won't lie, it was difficult! I did without a generator surviving on NEPA, with low immunity for malaria I consistently caught malaria and even typhoid.
Oh! What an experience. How does it feels like?
How was it compared to the UK own? (the experience)
The countries you believe are so good for you, I am certain you have not visited them for more than 3 months.
Your 101% correct. Even not to talk of going to an airport before.
But the question I am asking is what is the solution, or is Nigeria OUR COUNTRY, simply a lost cause?
Nigerian needs a less corrupt leader (young and fit) with little or no corruption records and should be cruel so that he will order the killings of all the old cargos that ruined the government.
ell77: Why do you write so angrily HeWrites? I am not Buhari?!
Don't mind me. Just angry that there's not point trying to defend this, shameless country.
To answer your questions, I do plan to live in Nigeria, HeWrites, but unlike you I have no base there including no immediate family. I need to start from scratch with a house and accommodation, my husband and three kids who need to sort out schooling etc.
Are your parents (if not both) not Nigerians.
No immediate family? Where are the younger ones? They have fled the country
You ain't married to a Nigerian?
I pray your decision won't affect the innocent kids.
I actually don't have anything against people moving abroad (which is perhaps what you think).
My thought because you think the advise you gave would work which our government will never make to work.
Well when I start my business in Nigeria hopefully I will alleviate some of these issues.
I wish you good luck but I pray you don't regret your decision later.
Well, I wish everyone travelling to Canada the best of luck, with proper planning you can make it almost anywhere in this world. But if possible, invest back home not just for the sake of other but yourself.
If one don't engage in CORRUPTION here in Nigeria one's chance of making it is very low.
maternal: Did you give all these advice to your parents? You do know there's a reason you were born abroad ? Do you think it was a mistake ?
She can't because she never comes/stays in this country to know how bad this country is.
She's just hearing it from her parents so I can't blame her. Seeing is believing they say so if she can't come to this country then she should not advise people to stay in this country and work together.
ell77: I repeat my question: Why do you think it seems so impossible for us to simply work together (irrespective of government)? This extends to those in diaspora?
The governments are greedy and if the citizens tries it, the government will make it futile.
Those in diaspora has to struggle for survival and also don't want their offsprings to suffer like they do since the Nigerian government never care if anyone exist, poor, lives in pain or not.
Neither of us chose where we were born,
I do. Please speak for yourself.
And can you tell me why you don't chose where you were born; Why can't you just come back and live the rest of your life here!
I cannot deny you as my fellow Nigerian even if you wish to deny me.
ell77: @HeWrites - That is where innovation comes in. I am not expecting Nigerians to all become Mother Theresa, but we should move from a win/lose mentality to a win/win mentality. If you read what you emboldened you will see the idea is simple - the problem is finding like-minded people. I would happily do this if I could find like-minded people and we would make profit whilst benefiting our society (new job creation included). However, I live in the UK (born and bred), when next I visit I hope there will still be Nigerians left in Nigeria to discuss solutions with and ACT ON THEM!
I won't take you serious.
Don't stay over there and be giving advice. Please come and be living here in Nigeria so that we will face the suffering together.
ell77: I appreciate your point on collective effort, but if families who are well off enough move out of Nigeria to Canada and the rest. What happens to those who cannot leave Nigeria. To myself both methods have elements of selfishness and perhaps moving out of the country and leaving others behind could be argued to be just as selfish.
The only way for such progress is for Nigerian people to rally together (this includes those in diaspora). I am not against anyone going or staying though, I just wanted to highlight this point in your otherwise good argument.
Look at it this way if 20 people who are earning N1m per month came together and sacrificed 3 months salary (not at a go), they would have N60m to invest in starting up something that would provide a decent service and generate profit. i.e. shared solar services, donation of a solar panel to a local hospital, scholarships scheme etc. Yes, as you said, we need to value societal and collective progress - WE REALLY DO!
Quick question, if you have the 20M are you going to do that shii you wrote. (easier said than done).
If you can, the money you're earning every month (that's if you're working) slash it by two and be keeping half of the money. After a year, go and use the money to open a company where you will be employing people. And if you think you can't do it alone, be sending me the money.
Then what about your parents back home? They will need medical care as they grow older, if all the doctors are leaving for the UK (and hospitals are a death trap) that is a worrying scenario. Will you import 4 grandparents to stay with your children. What about uncles and aunties, cousins etc. Those who have reached positions of success are uniquely placed to change Nigeria. I firmly believe the private sector can change Nigeria, and in fact, that may be our only hope for now!
Why do you think it seems so impossible for us to simply work together (irrespective of government)?
@Emboldened same way everybody cannot be rich (no time to explain expatiate it yourself).
A Nigerian man with the handle @tushcompere took to Instagram page to narrate how SARS officials in Ogun state open fire on truck drivers over bribe.
Read what he wrote; "Sars official in Ota shot 2 trailer drivers and 1 motorboy at Honda bustop after Obasanjo farms. 2 of them are badly injured and have been rushed to the hospital. while the last one got wounded on the right hand.
Right now. My car is Infront of the protest so am joining the protest to prevent damage of my property by trailer boys who brought 10trailers to block both sides of the road. Heavy road block and protest like never before.
What happened A trailer parked to give fuel to another trailer who was low on fuel, SARS officials in a yellow bus crossed them and demanded for settlement. One thing led to another and they open fire on the drivers. I was in my car at first then I left and ran away but I came back to join the protest to prevent them from spoiling my car. I am not a Lazy Nigerian ooooo."
peacengine: We are three graduates, here in Naija all working, so what is your response? Your cousins are lazy yuths!
But seriously, black man is not too wise. If I earn a million here will I relocate because of light? Hahahaha I will move to where I can get good supply of light here, then kit my house with solar fully fitted and inverter backup running smoothly too.
Is this all you have to say??
Someone on Oxygen died because of Power outrage in Lagos State. Should it be a country where everything is going on smoothly, I'm sure the patient might be alive by now and you're here talking bouh Solar.
I don't want to argue with you cause you're just saying this because you could not afford the expense to leave this country.
Someone who is intelligent will already know you ghat no point, the only thing you could talk about is LIGHT. imagine if this is an international debate, is this all you will say? How will you be able to convince the audience to agree with you