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MuttleyLaff:
That is because I let you argue with yourself
because you find it hard accepting the truth for what it is

1/ Peradventure what manner of tongues are you implying exists?
2/ Would it at all be tongues of celestial beings you are referring to?
3/ Would it at all be a heavenly language you are referring to?

Just answer the three above questions plus the ones I earlier asked you please. Will you?

no

MuttleyLaff:
"⁹Ya mere, kpenu ekpere otú a:
Nna-ayi Nke bi n'elu-igwe, Ka edo aha-Gi nsọ.
¹⁰Ka ala-eze-Gi bia. Ka eme ihe nāchọ,
dika esi eme ya n'elu-igwe, ka eme kwa otú ahu n'uwa.
¹¹Nye ayi nri ta nke gēzuru ayi n'ubọchi ta.
¹²B͕aghara kwa ayi ugwọ nile ayi ji,
dika ayi onwe-ayi b͕agharawo-kwa-ra ndi ji ayi ugwọ.
¹³Ewebàla ayi nime ọnwunwa,
kama dọputa ayi n'aka ajọ onye ahu.

Hier, please be a sport and recite out loud, the above prayer for me.
Can you? Did you manage to recite it? Were you able to recite it?
Do you and/or did you know what the above prayer is about?
Did you hear what recited out loud, did you understand what you recited out loud?

Now imagine you reciting a Yoruba version of the above prayer amidst an Igbo audience that dont understand jack diddly-squat word in Yoruba.
Who do you think gets built up with this unknown tongue (i.e. the Yoruba prayer) you're reciting in, whilst amongst an entirely Igbo audience?
Who do you think, with the Yoruba version of the above prayer,
prayed in an unknown tongue, their spirit prayeth, but their understanding is unfruitful?

Its a hardest thing of all, to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat.

Arguing with you has been pointless. You are always trying to prove there is oxygen in the atmosphere using the physical eyes. Should I take you to the North and let's see if you will pray in tongues and eventually speak Hausa. And does the fact that you eventually don't speak Hausa if peradventure you spent all the rest of your life there without any attempt to learn the language translate to the fact that tongues does not exist

johnydon22:
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This is high on an ambiguity vodka shot. Care to elucidate?

There is a phone with a virus

There is a phone without a virus

The virus doesn't affect the hardware, it destroys the software

A phone with a virus can be removed and if not removed would lead to the destruction of the phones program hence making the phone good as bad.

Bad phones goes to the trash, good phones lives on

Zoharariel:
I stand with Mark Twain anyday anytime. If the Bible does not represent "madness", then tell me what does.

Over the years, the bastards have been churning out new versions (NIV, NLT, English Standard, New Amerikan Standard, Contemporary English, Good News, New Heart English, Jubilee e.t.c) in a bid to rectify & edit their lies, contradictions & senselessness - but we are not deceived.

.loooool, you are wrong, the reason there are translations of the Bible is because the Bible is translated from the original manuscript which is not originally English. So people interpret the Bible based on the way they perceive it is written

Seun:
If atheism is madness, why are so many highly intelligent and successful people atheists? Why are people turning away from religion in most first world countries, which are far better than ours?

Those countries you claim are better than ours started out as being successful with their religious background, while Africa was a land where sacrifices and idols were the order of the day. So, do you blame the religion that was absent when we backward as the reason for our present day backwardness, because we were more backward even before the coming of other religion(Christianity and others)

Get your facts right, you are spilling jargon

Many believe we must be able to understand what is being said in tongues, simply because they read, Acts 2, but Acts 2 is not the only place where they spoke in tongues. Tongues was spoken in Acts 8 (after baptism - new converts), by those who have not been baptised - converts by heart(new converts too) Acts 10, Acts 19:1-7 by disciples.



1 Corinthians 14:2 [b]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.[\b]


1Cor 14:14 For [b]if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful[\b].


Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings [b]which cannot be uttered.[\b]



Now, many have believed all that was said

JesusJnr, please explain what these verses means.

1 Corinthians 14:2 [b]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.[\b]


1Cor 14:14 For [b]if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful[\b].


Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings [b]which cannot be uttered.[\b]

God is a Spirit

Whatever God sees, He weigh the level of their spirituality, either positive or negative

All negative spirits goes to hell. Case closed, it's simple maths

DewNewToo:
Thank you!! I will keep trying to call my LGI but his/ her phone has been off all week which is really annoying. But I am meant to have CDS next week so I will try to get advice from my cds coordinator and ask the person in charge of my ppa area.

Alright bro.

DewNewToo:
thanks!! But I am not sure they can give me letter clearing me for December as I would not have started work yet so technically wont be an employee till January, which means when I go for clearance in January I wont have a letter to give them. That's me assuming you do clearance that way, as in you clear of December in January then you will now clear for January in February.

Honestly I really wish NYSC could just clearly outline everything online for us to make life easy. That's how during documentation I also wasn't allowed to do it because I only had acceptance slip that was signed and stamped and they said I must bring acceptance letter.

Try get across to your L. I. He should be in a more perfect position to explain things better. I'm also batch C but stream 1, I left camp November 12 and it seems you guys resumed after we left, it was Kebbi camp. just try get across to the local government inspector for that local government which you have your PPA and call him and talk things with him. He's the best person to talk to, since by default, he's open to all Corp member under the local government, to see to their well-being in term of NYSC, though CWA(Corpers Welfare Association) see to the welfare of corpers though headed by a Corp member but overseen by the LGI(local gvt Insp). But when it comes to NYSC matters, the LGI is the best person to contact, the local government inspectors number is always in the deployment letter. The thing is, the LGI is the mouthpiece of NYSC that is closest to you and he's the person to conduct the clearance. But if peradventure you guys received any pay in camp, it could be either for November or December allowee

DewNewToo:
Thanks for the reply. I reported as soon as i left camp last week but only got my acceptance on Wednesday. but when I went to pick it up they asked me when I would like tot start and I said I can start immediately but then I would request two weeks leaves to get myself sorted but then he said it would be better for me to start fully on the 2nd of January. So I will start in January but I have done my documentation at my nysc zonal office.

You are as good as perfect bro, there is no cause for alarm. Your PPA now considers you as their employee and would assign to you ever privilege as related to that, and that includes issuing you your clearance form. Clearance is always between the first 10 days of every month, and the allowee for that period would be paid into the account you registered with. You have no cause to fear bro

DewNewToo:
Hello All

I have an urgent question. i left camp last week batch C stream 2. And my PPA is meant to resume on the 2nd of January. Will I still be expected to do clearance to get my allawee ? because I am worried my PPA wont want to give me clearance letter as I will just be starting. I checked my dashboard and so far I have present of November and Absent for December. Will another absent put me in trouble?

Did you report to your PPA immediately you were posted? If yes, then you should be on a form of leave that enables corpers to be fully prepared for service since they didn't come to camp with all their items.

If you reported and requested for a leave from your PPA, then you are recognized as one of their employee and they should give you the clearance letter.

How does that affect my allowee

Blingzswag:
Iam posted to Kebbi state too right now iam in my way to Kebbi state 08139478725

How much was your Tfare and are you travelling with other Corp member

Blingzswag:
Iam posted to Kebbi state too right now iam in my way to Kebbi state 08139478725

Washere, where are going from, I mean where did you leave from

adamsbadoo:
For I have seen God face to face. —
Genesis 32:30


And you are telling me he saw only his back?

No man has seen God sitted on the throne. God could come down in another form and it's still God, but Jesus was talking about heaven in that context

Everything seems not be working during this Burahi regime, even the gods are affected.

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adamsbadoo:
should i continue?

Continue and I would keep explaining them to you as used in the context

[quote author=adamsbadoo post=72298060][/quote]Please stop quoting your comments, just type them out, I would do justice to them.

Eph 2:8-9 is talking about faith for salvation, the verse used the word saved, its the act of confessing the Lordship of Christ

The one from James is talking about praying and receiving things from God through faith, not salvation

adamsbadoo:
should i continue?

no man has seen God in the fullness of His Glory, the best Moses saw was God's back. That portion was referring to God in Heaven, not God coming to the earth. You are engaging in mindless lifting, read those verses contextually, you use scriptures to explain scriptures

[quote author=adamsbadoo post=72297909][/quote]I really didn't understand anything from the two scriptures you quoted.
They are not related

adamsbadoo:
You see how confused you and your bible are?.,...I can't agree less that bible is full of contradictions....

Whatever are the contradiction you perceive lies in the Bible is due to your inability to interprete the Bible contextual as there are mindless liftings and presumptive attribution of interpretation by readers. There are no contradictions in the Bible, not even one.

[quote author=adamsbadoo post=72283000][/quote]1 Timothy 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Its a coincidence, we all know how those facebook girls run their unnecessary mouth, calling themselves heaven while living hell.

There are intercessors praying ceaselessly for the conversion of souls all over the world, converting a Muslim is not an easy task save that God interfere, and moreover, there is always the isolation and attempt on the life of any Muslim whenever they convert, some lose the support of loved one's, but God is faithful. Prayers are made and sermons are preached and evangelist are deployed.

Luke 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Jeposky:
Then where was the celebration of Christ's birthday (Christmas �) commanded to us.

If Angels would leave Heaven, where God and all His mightiness abides, and decide that the best thing to do is to come to the earth and celebrate the birth Of Jesus with confirm music and guiter, o boy, I will keep celebrating Christmas as long as a day has been set aside to mark it, why would I do same.

Luke 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,