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hercatonchires:
Dude! You dey para gan oh! Remain small, you for upload the whole new testament.
On a more serious note, u make sense finish. Chop knuckle *fistbump*

Courtesy of Glo Ng, reloading and poor network.

I got your shout out, very hilarious, I will say but I wish I found it amusing

1Corinthians 8:4-8
4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one. 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. 7 However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8 But food does not commend us to God; for neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse.


Here, Paul was saying, we need the consciousness that there is one God and no other God aside Him, and when you eat, you are eating that meat as like a meet you will buy with your money without the consciousness that it was a sallah meat.

If you cannot meet that consciousness, then, stay away, but if you can convince yourself that this meat is provided by God, and there is no Allah or sort to which the meat was offered to, then, you can take the holy communion

chemystery:
Good thing you have abandoned your initial argument because it has been flawed, hence confusing yourself with new arguments against your OP, getting emotional and issuing threats.

Or should I start giving you lectures on how the food we take form nutrients or chemicals (made up of atoms and molecules) which reacts with the cells(still atoms and molecules) to help create a regenerative condition of the cells? Or how this same principle is applied in culturing of bacterial and cells?

I would have love to but you have become emotional already, issuing threats. So I will take my leave now and allow you and your goons you mentioned for support to keep clutching at straws and mastur.bate on the thread to your ennui.

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Oooooooh, I sincerely didn't see this.

Food we take you say

Lemme ask, seems you don't understand this thread at all. This thread is about how life came to earth, but the sad part is, I didn't use a Bible verse, and that's unfair. I used logic and some biology.

See, there was no scientists alive who could have cultured those cell back then, when life came into existence, I can't believe am replying this, should I call felixomor to come deal with it, cause like I said initially, your responses are illogical, we are talking about creation, you are talking culturing and nutrition, who is providing the culture and nutrition.


You also need to understand that, there is no much time for a cell without a body that's floating about in the air or on the ground to develop or transform into any other form without surviving via the stage of it being a cell, see don't tell me about a body if you can't explain how that cell survived without being cultured or nutrients, just stay off this thread.

Thanks

chemystery:
Good thing you have abandoned your initial argument because it has been flawed, hence confusing yourself with new arguments against your OP, getting emotional and issuing threats.

Or should I start giving you lectures on how the food we take form nutrients or chemicals (made up of atoms and molecules) which reacts with the cells(still atoms and molecules) to help create a regenerative condition of the cells? Or how this same principle is applied in culturing of bacterial and cells?

I would have love to but you have become emotional already, issuing threats. So I will take my leave now and allow you and your goons you mentioned for support to keep clutching at straws and mastur.bate on the thread to your ennui.

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Oooooooh, I sincerely didn't see this.

Food we take you say

Lemme ask, seems you don't understand this thread at all. This thread is about how life came to earth, but the sad part is, I didn't use a Bible verse, and that's unfair. I used logic and some biology.

See, there was no scientists alive who could have cultured those cell back then when life came into existence, I can't believe am replying this, should I call felixomor to come deal with it, cause like I said initially, your responses are illogical, we are talking about creation, you are talking culturing and nutrition, who is providing the culture and nutrition.

hopefulLandlord:
can you see how you defeated your former post?

I knew you would because I've done this many times

in your heading you mentioned "hell" then started arguing for a creator

your mistake however is that there are about not much less than 3billion humans who acknowledge a creator but don't agree with you on Christianity being true, Judaism for instance even acknowledge your god but don't believe Jesus is the Messiah amongst many other religions

there are also deists like Deepsight, Raphiemontella, anonynymous here who believe in a creator and that's where its stops, they don't go further than that

here you are praising yourself for "proving" your god is real and hell is real only to use arguments a Muslim, Deist, Hindu, Pagan etc can use and when called out you quickly doubled down that you have your convictions, that reeks of dishonesty and cognitive dissonance bro, do I need to tell you Hindus also have personal convictions? Muslims too? Jews too? Pagans too?

I always said that honestly, there is not one single christian argument when put to the rigors of reason and rationality and / or science that is even the slightest bit convincing in any way whatsoever. the whole foundation from start to finish is on sinking sand. It can only be believed by the monumentally naïve or the willfully dishonest.

Christianity is vapid, illogical, filled with absolute bull
and maintained with a combination of make believe
and threats

.GO GET A RELIGION

I assume the following were blessed by the post, see the atheist, very soon to become theist viewing but were speechless, gooooooooood

Lifeispeace, I still expect your second question

Get ready to become an theist or burn in hell. No mercy

www.nairaland.com/3946844/ill-convert-back-christiandoom-christians

hopefulLandlord:
I think you're giving yourself too much credit here bro

how does OP if being true make (Christian) theism true?

mind you, before you commit strawman, I'm not arguing against OP, I'm asking how if your OP is correct automatically make (Christian) theism true

don't backtrack on this post of yours now, defend it

your mistake is that you just argued for a deist god at best and are somehow so elated with it that you crashed and burned like Icarus when he flew too close to the sun in ecstasy forgetting his wings is made of wax

I'll hazard a guess that you just recently got to know there are atheists and you're passionate about proving them wrong and post every eureka moment you have here

I know mine is true and I have my convictions, one that surpass my reasoning, when you hear the likes of Katherine Kulhman and you compare some things she and other Gods General experienced to what I have experienced and what the 2000 year old Bible said and I can find a common ground, even among Pentecostal churches, then I will choose Christianity among the 4000 religions in the world.

Thanks

the yahwehp dude is caught in the trap too. Loooooool, this is good trap. I will say his logic will never remain the same. My spiritual father, Revd Goke Ogunleye always say, The best form of deliverance is from the skull, that's why Jesus has to die in field of Skull - Golgotha. I dedicate this thread to him.

They invented logic, the logic would eat them up now unless they just don't want to become theist, but the word atheist or atheism won't make sense to them anymore after seeing this, they will realise, atheism is a delusion, they have always claimed we are. Lemme stop there.

The truth be told, God would always forgive you like He did to the prodigal son. Felixomor, please, help me paste the parable of the prodigal son here, bye, would miss you

felixomor:
Thanks

Just look at how the small knowledge of biology you put up there easily defeats what many of them atheists stand on.

My brother, Logic is the biggest enemy of the atheist.

Thats why many of them run away from it.

I stand up and call you Yes Boss, thanks Boss.

I really feel for them many times

We using carnal to judge carnal

1 Corinthians 2:13-16

13 These things we also speak, not in words. man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy d Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” e But we have the mind of Christ.

I think probably by new birth that my mind is the mind of Christ. Loooooool,

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Note:Share the link to this thread with an atheist you love

Choose Heaven and live.

Ignore and wind up in hell.

I was just browsing this afternoon and this idea
came to me. The ideas are

Does this prove God?

Premise 1
An animate object gives birth to other animate
object

Premise 2
An inanimate object results in other inanimate
object

Premise 3
An animate object can not give birth to/reproduce
an inanimate object and viceversa (an inanimate
object can not reproduce an animate object)

Premise 4
The universe is an inanimate object
Conclusion 1
Since the universe is an inanimate object, it cannot
produce another animate object. (Premise 3)

Conclusion 2
If there exist a universe that has life that could
produce life which could be an animate object, He
shall be called God. (Premise 1)

Conclusion 3
If I am alive, and another being created me with his
own kind,(goat gives birth to goat; rat gives birth to
rat and on and on)

Conclusion 4
Then, I am a type of the animate object, that has
life. (Premise 1)

Oppositing atheist view

Humans are made up of organs. Organs are made
up of tissues. Tissues are made up of cells. And
cells are made up of atoms and molecules which in
themselves aren't alive (inanimate). So we're
basically living things (animate) made up of non-
living things (inanimate).
- A case of inanimate resulting to animate
Also when we die, we are given off away to
become part of the constituent of the soil and
atmosphere.
- A case of animate resulting to inanimate

My final submission

Loooooool. So at creation, lemme reverse the order
you listed them and let's see how you will spin it
again. Genius

I really find this your response illogical.

Well, you are saying, atoms and molecules formed
cells, but this site with many views by the ape
descendants claim cells cannot survive outside
a body without being cultured, so, naturally, if big
bang happened and after some time, without culture
a nutrition, it dies, oooooooh, poor big bang is
dead and gone to the grave before it became a
tissue, or the same thing with the tissue and its
chances of surviving, before it became an organ, no
culturing, no nutrition, the body parts are not
complete yet, MR NIGER D, not fully in place and
you mean the survived all those stages.

Even the Holy Spirit is embarrassed by the way you
reason. I thought you guys love logic, this is one,
deal with it, and don't quote me, moreso, either you
go back to church and get saved or DONT BLAME
GOD IF YOU WIND UP IN HELL, because of your
dumb excuses

www.scienceforums.net/topic/34240-can-a-human-
cell-exist-independent-of-the-rest-of-the-body-
answere cells


www.nairaland.com/3881592/dont-blame-god-
wind-up

Oooooooh, I needed a catchy heading , why am I feeling guilty now, at
least this thread deserve some views

0temAtum:
Faulkin(Yeshua) didn't die for the world, but he died when he was humbled for his theft. After his Humiliation, he went to Sodom-Egypt and died there. Here is an account of his stealing.

I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOUR B S, DON'T BUG ME

chemystery:
Humans are made up of organs. Organs are made up of tissues. Tissues are made up of cells. And cells are made up of atoms and molecules which in themselves aren't alive (inanimate). So we're basically living things (animate) made up of non-living things (inanimate).
- A case of inanimate resulting to animate

Also when we die, we are given off away to become part of the constituent of the soil and atmosphere.
- A case of animate resulting to inanimate

Loooooool. So at creation, lemme reverse the order you listed them and let's see how you will spin it again Genius


I really find this your response illogical.

Well, felixomor, bennyann, kingebukasblog, mrpresident1, asuustrike2009 come and explain the impossibility in what this guy is saying

He's literally saying, atoms and molecules formed cells, but this site with many views by the ape descendants claim cells cannot survive outside
a body without being cultured, so, naturally, if big bang happened and after some time, without culture a nutrition, it dies, oooooooh, poor big bang is dead and gone to the grave before it became a tissue, or the same thing with the tissue and its chances of surviving, before it became an organ, no culturing, no nutrition, the body parts are not complete yet, MR NIGER D, not fully in place and you mean the survived all those stages.

Even the Holy Spirit is embarrassed by the way you reason. I thought you guys love logic, this is one, deal with it, and don't quote me, moreso, either you go back to church and get saved or DONT BLAME GOD IF YOU WIND UP IN HELL, because of your dumb excuses

www.scienceforums.net/topic/34240-can-a-human-cell-exist-independent-of-the-rest-of-the-body-answere cells

www.nairaland.com/3881592/dont-blame-god-wind-up

Jesus died for everyman, so no one is expected to die anymore

Hebrews 1:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

COURTESY OF #PROUDSHEPPLE

correctguy101:
Nope, they don't hate hell, they just let you know that the meaning isn't a kinda fire but a state. something they call sheol. something like that, they'll explain better to you or you just visit their website.

Me ke atheist? No way. Neither am I Christian

My experiences no fit let me. I know better when it comes to topics as these.

ehn ehn

correctguy101:
I was just joking about with you. lols.

You wey I know well for nairaland?
Though you don't know this moniker but since I don't have time switching between monikers, I decided to continue using this one.

But believe me, you met dumb JW adherents.
I've even met many like that and as I don't like idiots so I begged him and the lady with him not to visit me again (had to for the slowpoke was mighty persistent).

When you meet with a JW like Jman04, you'll prefer JW if you hadn't had my kind of experience. lols.

Enjoy mate

An average lover of Nl has monikers

bennyann:
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I miss you more. I've been seeing your was just browsing this afternoon and this idea came to me.


I've been around, trying to put some things in place before coming back here in an active mood. Thank you so much for asking. I hope you've been good?

urh urh, well, I have one for you ma, if you could try, well, if you are led also to do that. You could, just saying, get some ladies and follow them up, if you understand what I mean

onyenze123:
Subjective view? Exactly. Can we now agree is n was objective (since there is no concrete proof) but subjective (only by faith)?

FYI: I believe in God, not Yahweh, Vinshu, , Monhammed. I believe in one God who is the source of all energy (infinite energy) and eternal a aess. It is only a believe without definite proof for now but in do hope in no distant time, Quantum physics will explain it.

I really was this guy who could have been conve rted from Christianity to Islam and probably, no, definitely an atheist now. But here am I, a Christian, one WHO doesn't believe in spending much time praying, spending hours in prayer, who could have been a muslim or atheist. I wasn't preached to, but some things have happened that I could not explain, and the best answer I could give is God.



One of them is how I would be praying and I could perceive beautiful aromas and scent. At that same time I perceive the scent, I feel this coldness within me and at the same time, my eyes are spinning and after spinning increasely for about 5sec, am on the floor lying flat, trying to stand up, but I just can't. Until the fragrance subside, well, I don't need to tell you all that.

JackBizzle:

Nonsense upon nonsense. Non sequitur. It does not follow.

which part

I was just browsing this afternoon and this idea came to me. The ideas are

Well, lemme call this girl, lifeispeace. Okay, she's a good friend, I once made fun of her sometime ago.


To business

Does this prove God?

Premise 1
An animate object gives birth to other animate object

Premise 2
An inanimate object results in other inanimate object

Premise 3
An animate object can not give birth to/reproduce an inanimate object and viceversa (an inanimate object can not reproduce an animate object) Hahn

Premise 4
The universe is an inanimate object

Conclusion 1

Since the universe is an inanimate object, it cannot produce another animate object. (Premise 3 and 4)

Conclusion 2

If there exist a universe that has life that could produce life which could be an animate object, He shall be called God. (Premise 1)

Conclusion 3

If I am alive, and another being created me with his own kind,(goat gives birth to goat; rat gives birth to rat and on and on)

Conclusion 4

Then, I am a type of the animate object, that has life. (Premise 1)


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Thanks for your suggestion in advance

My dad actually sells bolt and Boris and he often want to buy and sell big lorry Boris but many customers keep coming trying to buy golf and Toyota parts and other front wheel 3finger. Well, that's what we call it here, it's this drive wheel Boris that's at the inner side of the front wheel shaft with three Boris plates which has a cup or housing. Don't mind me.

What am just saying is, I need dealers that can supply goods from anywhere in Nigeria and I might pay a visit and later you start sending the product after I do the transfer to your account.

items I desire are just bolt majorly, any size of tokunbo bolt, either 13, 14, 19, 22, 24, and 27 of any size.

well, start a company and employ them

correctguy101:
You could get them to educate you on what they believe or visit jw.org.

BTW, lemme mention one I know here. Jman04 I think. (NOT sure if CAPSLOCKED is one but he strikes me as one)
if they get this mention, they'll try update you knowledge of the JW maybe here or in another thread.

But I prefer their kinda Christianity, no much wahala except for the trekking

Some JW came to my home some months and we talked for about 3 hours debating and quoting scriptures, I will say I know a little. Especially, their hatred for the Hell message

You prefer their kinda Christianity?? Are you one of them or you are an atheist? well, if atheist, bye

onyenze123:
Then yours is INCORRECT. Case closed

Subjective views, do you believe in Mohammed

LiberaDeus:
The christards An2Elect and the OP Hier cant even get their stories straight.

They cant even agree on how one should be saved whether by grace alone, grace and works, works first then grace, grace first then works and grace

When you guys are done arguing with yourselves, continue threatening us with your fictitious god/hell

Flash your IV pls. Loooooool

correctguy101:
If I hear, you know very little about the JW teachings then.

loooool, you could school me about them
I gat all the time in the world.
Thanks

An2elect2:
[i] I don't care about the guy that called me a false Christian but you now and you don't have to lie against me to yourself feel good and to approve your "appeal to the fleshy" gospel. The reason I'm not going to go down to prove your message is a distortion of the truth is because you reminded me that we have gone down that lane before. So I won't waste pearls anymore.

Bye to you!

Thanks for the painkillers

Obverse my moniker very closely. Never mention nor type anything around my thread again

onyenze123:
I don't care what you chose to believe (without proof anyway). I to have my own beliefs but to use hell as a "threat" for people to adopt your belief is bull crap. You will wind up in Islamic hell Jahannan if you don't believe in Allah and his last messenger Mohammed (PBUH). How does that sound?

INCORRECT

RighteousI:
AN2ELECT2 IS A FALSE CHRISTIAN, don't waste your time arguing. She is the type that leads people to the pit through liberal preaching which deceives that you are free to do as you wish since you are saved by grace.
You did not offend anyone in your post, all you did in your post was to warn about hell but yet An2elect2 still found a reason to criticize you.
BEWARE, AN2ELECT2 IS A FALSE CHRISTIAN.

She's a JW I guess

Those folks who don't believe in hell, just like those atheist who don't believe in hell. Funny enough, their sermons won't make sense to an atheist because they both believe there is no hell, the scripture said, they are those that turns Gods wisdom to foolishness, professing that they are wise, they become foolish, you know the funny past, our post and comments are just the definition of the tribulation believers would face on earth. What a set of wicked race


Romans 1:21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

You can still convert onyenzi123 Mohammed does not provide any plan Muslim that can guarantee them salvation

onyenze123:
Well, Don't blame Allah if you wind up in b since you don't believe he is the true God and Mohammed (PBUH) is his last prophet.

Do you believe God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac and He provided a lamb in place for Isaac lamb, what is there if God sends Jesus (Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world) in exchange for Isaac(the world) else Isaac dies (the world dies)


This is what you should believe

bloodofthelamb:
I GOT SAVED FROM THE FALLEN NATURE OF MANKIND THROUGH BELIEVING IN CHRIST JESUS...JESUS HAS UPGRADED ME TO HIS KIND AND CLASS...HALLELUYAH

yea, its called the God kind of life. Zoe

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=+zoe+kenneth+hagin+pdf&client=ms-opera-mini-android&channel=new&gws_rd=cr,ssl&dcr=0&ei=b9mnWeWoN9HSwAL925iYCg