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Christianity EtcRe: How a Christian should debate an atheist using science and logic by Hier(op): 9:11am On Sep 01, 2017
felixomor:
Thanks

Just look at how the small knowledge of biology you put up there easily defeats what many of them atheists stand on.

My brother, Logic is the biggest enemy of the atheist.

Thats why many of them run away from it.
I stand up and call you Yes Boss, thanks Boss.

I really feel for them many times

We using carnal to judge carnal

1 Corinthians 2:13-16

13 These things we also speak, not in words. man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy d Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” e But we have the mind of Christ.

I think probably by new birth that my mind is the mind of Christ. Loooooool,

cc lalasticlala
Christianity Etc13 Ways To know if you are really a good Christian by Hier(op):
Note:Share the link to this thread with an atheist you love

Choose Heaven and live.

Ignore and wind up in hell.



I was just browsing this afternoon and this idea
came to me. The ideas are

Does this prove God?

Premise 1
An animate object gives birth to other animate
object

Premise 2
An inanimate object results in other inanimate
object

Premise 3
An animate object can not give birth to/reproduce
an inanimate object and viceversa (an inanimate
object can not reproduce an animate object)

Premise 4
The universe is an inanimate object
Conclusion 1
Since the universe is an inanimate object, it cannot
produce another animate object. (Premise 3)

Conclusion 2
If there exist a universe that has life that could
produce life which could be an animate object, He
shall be called God. (Premise 1)

Conclusion 3
If I am alive, and another being created me with his
own kind,(goat gives birth to goat; rat gives birth to
rat and on and on)

Conclusion 4
Then, I am a type of the animate object, that has
life. (Premise 1)

Oppositing atheist view

Humans are made up of organs. Organs are made
up of tissues. Tissues are made up of cells. And
cells are made up of atoms and molecules which in
themselves aren't alive (inanimate). So we're
basically living things (animate) made up of non-
living things (inanimate).
- A case of inanimate resulting to animate
Also when we die, we are given off away to
become part of the constituent of the soil and
atmosphere.
- A case of animate resulting to inanimate

My final submission

Loooooool. So at creation, lemme reverse the order
you listed them and let's see how you will spin it
again. Genius

I really find this your response illogical.

Well, you are saying, atoms and molecules formed
cells, but this site with many views by the ape
descendants claim cells cannot survive outside
a body without being cultured, so, naturally, if big
bang happened and after some time, without culture
a nutrition, it dies, oooooooh, poor big bang is
dead and gone to the grave before it became a
tissue, or the same thing with the tissue and its
chances of surviving, before it became an organ, no
culturing, no nutrition, the body parts are not
complete yet, MR NIGER D, not fully in place and
you mean the survived all those stages.

Even the Holy Spirit is embarrassed by the way you
reason. I thought you guys love logic, this is one,
deal with it, and don't quote me, moreso, either you
go back to church and get saved or DONT BLAME
GOD IF YOU WIND UP IN HELL, because of your
dumb excuses

www.scienceforums.net/topic/34240-can-a-human-
cell-exist-independent-of-the-rest-of-the-body-
answere cells


www.nairaland.com/3881592/dont-blame-god-
wind-up

Oooooooh, I needed a catchy heading embarassed embarassed, why am I feeling guilty now, at
least this thread deserve some views
Christianity EtcRe: The Perfect Image Of A Christian Before Jesus by Hier(m): 8:13am On Sep 01, 2017
0temAtum:
Faulkin(Yeshua) didn't die for the world, but he died when he was humbled for his theft. After his Humiliation, he went to Sodom-Egypt and died there. Here is an account of his stealing.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOUR B S, DON'T BUG ME
Christianity EtcRe: How a Christian should debate an atheist using science and logic by Hier(op): 8:07am On Sep 01, 2017
chemystery:
Humans are made up of organs. Organs are made up of tissues. Tissues are made up of cells. And cells are made up of atoms and molecules which in themselves aren't alive (inanimate). So we're basically living things (animate) made up of non-living things (inanimate).
- A case of inanimate resulting to animate

Also when we die, we are given off away to become part of the constituent of the soil and atmosphere.
- A case of animate resulting to inanimate
Loooooool. So at creation, lemme reverse the order you listed them and let's see how you will spin it again Genius


I really find this your response illogical.

Well, felixomor, bennyann, kingebukasblog, mrpresident1, asuustrike2009 come and explain the impossibility in what this guy is saying

He's literally saying, atoms and molecules formed cells, but this site with many views by the ape descendants claim cells cannot survive outside
a body without being cultured, so, naturally, if big bang happened and after some time, without culture a nutrition, it dies, oooooooh, poor big bang is dead and gone to the grave before it became a tissue, or the same thing with the tissue and its chances of surviving, before it became an organ, no culturing, no nutrition, the body parts are not complete yet, MR NIGER D, not fully in place and you mean the survived all those stages.

Even the Holy Spirit is embarrassed by the way you reason. I thought you guys love logic, this is one, deal with it, and don't quote me, moreso, either you go back to church and get saved or DONT BLAME GOD IF YOU WIND UP IN HELL, because of your dumb excuses

www.scienceforums.net/topic/34240-can-a-human-cell-exist-independent-of-the-rest-of-the-body-answere cells

www.nairaland.com/3881592/dont-blame-god-wind-up
Christianity EtcRe: The Perfect Image Of A Christian Before Jesus by Hier(m): 10:22pm On Aug 31, 2017
Jesus died for everyman, so no one is expected to die anymore

Hebrews 1:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

COURTESY OF #PROUDSHEPPLE
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 9:35pm On Aug 31, 2017
correctguy101:
Nope, they don't hate hell, they just let you know that the meaning isn't a kinda fire but a state. something they call sheol. something like that, they'll explain better to you or you just visit their website.

Me ke atheist? No way. Neither am I Christian cheesy

My experiences no fit let me. I know better when it comes to topics as these.
ehn ehn
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 9:26pm On Aug 31, 2017
correctguy101:
I was just joking about with you. lols.

You wey I know well for nairaland? grin
Though you don't know this moniker but since I don't have time switching between monikers, I decided to continue using this one.

But believe me, you met dumb JW adherents.
I've even met many like that and as I don't like idiots so I begged him and the lady with him not to visit me again (had to for the slowpoke was mighty persistent).

When you meet with a JW like Jman04, you'll prefer JW if you hadn't had my kind of experience. lols.

Enjoy mate
An average lover of Nl has monikers
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 9:23pm On Aug 31, 2017
bennyann:
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I miss you more. I've been seeing your was just browsing this afternoon and this idea came to me.


I've been around, trying to put some things in place before coming back here in an active mood. Thank you so much for asking. I hope you've been good?
urh urh, well, I have one for you ma, if you could try, well, if you are led also to do that. You could, just saying, get some ladies and follow them up, if you understand what I mean
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 9:03pm On Aug 31, 2017
onyenze123:
Subjective view? Exactly. Can we now agree is n was objective (since there is no concrete proof) but subjective (only by faith)?

FYI: I believe in God, not Yahweh, Vinshu, , Monhammed. I believe in one God who is the source of all energy (infinite energy) and eternal a aess. It is only a believe without definite proof for now but in do hope in no distant time, Quantum physics will explain it.
I really was this guy who could have been conve rted from Christianity to Islam and probably, no, definitely an atheist now. But here am I, a Christian, one WHO doesn't believe in spending much time praying, spending hours in prayer, who could have been a muslim or atheist. I wasn't preached to, but some things have happened that I could not explain, and the best answer I could give is God.



One of them is how I would be praying and I could perceive beautiful aromas and scent. At that same time I perceive the scent, I feel this coldness within me and at the same time, my eyes are spinning and after spinning increasely for about 5sec, am on the floor lying flat, trying to stand up, but I just can't. Until the fragrance subside, well, I don't need to tell you all that.
Christianity EtcRe: How a Christian should debate an atheist using science and logic by Hier(op): 8:16pm On Aug 31, 2017
JackBizzle:
huh
Nonsense upon nonsense. Non sequitur. It does not follow.
which part
Christianity EtcHow a Christian should debate an atheist using science and logic by Hier(op):
I was just browsing this afternoon and this idea came to me. The ideas are

Well, lemme call this girl, lifeispeace. Okay, she's a good friend, I once made fun of her sometime ago.


To business

Does this prove God?

Premise 1
An animate object gives birth to other animate object

Premise 2
An inanimate object results in other inanimate object

Premise 3
An animate object can not give birth to/reproduce an inanimate object and viceversa (an inanimate object can not reproduce an animate object) Hahn

Premise 4
The universe is an inanimate object

Conclusion 1

Since the universe is an inanimate object, it cannot produce another animate object. (Premise 3 and 4)

Conclusion 2

If there exist a universe that has life that could produce life which could be an animate object, He shall be called God. (Premise 1)

Conclusion 3

If I am alive, and another being created me with his own kind,(goat gives birth to goat; rat gives birth to rat and on and on)

Conclusion 4

Then, I am a type of the animate object, that has life. (Premise 1)


cc KingEbukasblog, obinna58, hahn, alBHAGDADI, Jiggaz, Bennyann, judedwriter, Donnad, seun
AutosPls Where Can I Get Tokunbo Bolt And Boris Dealers In Nigeria by Hier(op): 12:43pm On Aug 31, 2017
Thanks for your suggestion in advance

My dad actually sells bolt and Boris and he often want to buy and sell big lorry Boris but many customers keep coming trying to buy golf and Toyota parts and other front wheel 3finger. Well, that's what we call it here, it's this drive wheel Boris that's at the inner side of the front wheel shaft with three Boris plates which has a cup or housing. Don't mind me.

What am just saying is, I need dealers that can supply goods from anywhere in Nigeria and I might pay a visit and later you start sending the product after I do the transfer to your account.

items I desire are just bolt majorly, any size of tokunbo bolt, either 13, 14, 19, 22, 24, and 27 of any size.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Blasts Nigerians Falling for U.S Lottery winner's online scam by Hier(m): 12:23pm On Aug 31, 2017
well, start a company and employ them
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 12:19pm On Aug 31, 2017
correctguy101:
You could get them to educate you on what they believe or visit jw.org.

BTW, lemme mention one I know here. Jman04 I think. (NOT sure if CAPSLOCKED is one but he strikes me as one)
if they get this mention, they'll try update you knowledge of the JW maybe here or in another thread.

But I prefer their kinda Christianity, no much wahala except for the trekking gringrin
Some JW came to my home some months and we talked for about 3 hours debating and quoting scriptures, I will say I know a little. Especially, their hatred for the Hell message

You prefer their kinda Christianity?? Are you one of them or you are an atheist? well, if atheist, bye
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 12:01pm On Aug 31, 2017
onyenze123:
Then yours is INCORRECT. Case closed
Subjective views, do you believe in Mohammed
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 11:55am On Aug 31, 2017
LiberaDeus:
The christards An2Elect and the OP Hier cant even get their stories straight.

They cant even agree on how one should be saved whether by grace alone, grace and works, works first then grace, grace first then works and grace grin grin grin grin

When you guys are done arguing with yourselves, continue threatening us with your fictitious god/hell
Flash your IV pls. Loooooool
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 11:53am On Aug 31, 2017
correctguy101:
If I hear, you know very little about the JW teachings then.
loooool, you could school me about them
I gat all the time in the world.
Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 11:50am On Aug 31, 2017
An2elect2:
[i] I don't care about the guy that called me a false Christian but you now and you don't have to lie against me to yourself feel good and to approve your "appeal to the fleshy" gospel. The reason I'm not going to go down to prove your message is a distortion of the truth is because you reminded me that we have gone down that lane before. So I won't waste pearls anymore.

Bye to you!
Thanks for the painkillers

Obverse my moniker very closely. Never mention nor type anything around my thread again
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 11:23am On Aug 31, 2017
onyenze123:
I don't care what you chose to believe (without proof anyway). I to have my own beliefs but to use hell as a "threat" for people to adopt your belief is bull crap. You will wind up in Islamic hell Jahannan if you don't believe in Allah and his last messenger Mohammed (PBUH). How does that sound?
INCORRECT
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 11:22am On Aug 31, 2017
RighteousI:
AN2ELECT2 IS A FALSE CHRISTIAN, don't waste your time arguing. She is the type that leads people to the pit through liberal preaching which deceives that you are free to do as you wish since you are saved by grace.
You did not offend anyone in your post, all you did in your post was to warn about hell but yet An2elect2 still found a reason to criticize you.
BEWARE, AN2ELECT2 IS A FALSE CHRISTIAN.
She's a JW I guess

Those folks who don't believe in hell, just like those atheist who don't believe in hell. Funny enough, their sermons won't make sense to an atheist because they both believe there is no hell, the scripture said, they are those that turns Gods wisdom to foolishness, professing that they are wise, they become foolish, you know the funny past, our post and comments are just the definition of the tribulation believers would face on earth. What a set of wicked race


Romans 1:21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 11:03am On Aug 31, 2017
John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

You can still convert onyenzi123 Mohammed does not provide any plan Muslim that can guarantee them salvation
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 11:01am On Aug 31, 2017
onyenze123:
Well, Don't blame Allah if you wind up in b since you don't believe he is the true God and Mohammed (PBUH) is his last prophet.
Do you believe God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac and He provided a lamb in place for Isaac lamb, what is there if God sends Jesus (Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world) in exchange for Isaac(the world) else Isaac dies (the world dies)


This is what you should believe
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 10:55am On Aug 31, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
I GOT SAVED FROM THE FALLEN NATURE OF MANKIND THROUGH BELIEVING IN CHRIST JESUS...JESUS HAS UPGRADED ME TO HIS KIND AND CLASS...HALLELUYAH
yea, its called the God kind of life. Zoe

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=+zoe+kenneth+hagin+pdf&client=ms-opera-mini-android&channel=new&gws_rd=cr,ssl&dcr=0&ei=b9mnWeWoN9HSwAL925iYCg
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Blame God If You Wind Up In Hell by Hier(op): 10:36am On Aug 31, 2017
bennyann:
Good one dear. I'm with you
missed you, where have you been
CelebritiesRe: Regina Daniels Gets Admitted To University by Hier(m): 10:01am On Aug 31, 2017
Interesting, but I will keep praying for her that she comes to the light
PoliticsRe: Statutory Allocations For States From January To June 2017 by Hier(m): 9:51am On Aug 31, 2017
diana158:
dont really think so, though population might be one of the criteria. what comes out of a state like VAT(value added tax), crude oil etc. influences the sharing higher
well, their IGR shouldn't be used as a basis, its a country where one benefit from the other, my opinion sha. thanks for the warm response,

can I ask you question before we part, are you born again? I love you that's why am asking
RomanceRe: Man Looking For A Virgin Graduate To Occupy His Kitchen by Hier(m): 9:46am On Aug 31, 2017
deeper life get them plenty
PoliticsRe: Statutory Allocations For States From January To June 2017 by Hier(m): 2:29pm On Aug 30, 2017
diana158:
The First colum is the amount deducted due to debts, while the second colum is the actual amount each state government received.
IS THE SHARING ACCORDING TO THEIR POPULATION
Christianity EtcRe: Pic:what Gave People The Impression That Jesus Looks Like This by Hier(m): 2:09pm On Aug 30, 2017
1Sharon:
Well jesus hailed from the middle east and they are not White. So you sir, are talking crap
https://www.nairaland.com/4015424/burn-bible-100m#59893941
Christianity EtcRe: Solving Incompatibility Issues In Marriage by Hier(m): 2:06pm On Aug 30, 2017
toyinaremu:
Smiles... That was the topic of a ministration I had recently

...te author=Hier post=59897006]hmmmm, I be right back.

but what prompted you to come up with this write up. Am sorry, gonna be a short interview if you mind
okay, could you help us pull a write up about the marriage pattern with respect to the folowing women. i believe we need a template from the bible to guide us-women like Esther, Abigail, Naomhi, Mary, Rebecca, Sarah and other godly women and how they respected and submitted to their husbands after marriage?
PoliticsRe: Anambra PDP Primaries: We Were Threatened - Umahi by Hier(m): 2:00pm On Aug 30, 2017
God save
PoliticsRe: IPOB Supporter Prostrates, Bows For Nnamdi Kanu (Photos) by Hier(m): 1:58pm On Aug 30, 2017
navyseal2220:
Afonjas that prostrate from morning to night in their culture are complaining about this? These people and their hypocrisy
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