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idupaul: For your information eagle air belongs to pastor oritsejafor , its is the shell company used to commercialise the operations of his Bombardier Challenger 600 with Registration
No N808HG when he is not using it ..Yall can thank me later

Could you kindly give us a referral on that information, please? Gracias.

abu12: @ops can u post the web site of eagle air company? Am trying to see if it a register company in nigeria or u can help by posting the name of the chairman of eagle air, if such company really exist

I've searched on Google, but can't seem to find information on Eagle Air Company based in Nigeria or connected to Rev. Oritsajefor. Perhaps any other person has that information in black and white, let's have it. Until then, I'll still keep my fingers crossed without jumping into any conclusions.

This is page 1 of Google search on Eagle Air. Page 2 too doesn't have that information. So also page 3.

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barcanista: I won't take a position yet for now. lemme watch as this unfolds

I'm with you. My fingers are crossed. I won't jump into any conclusion until the truth behind the events properly unfold.

It's no surprise. Everything in Nigeria is either politicised or reduced to tribal and religious sentiments. However, we still need to keep our fingers crossed for more breaking news as it unfolds.

www.thetrentonline.com/nigerian-company-claims-ownership-private-jet-seized-n150-billion-south-africa-releases-statement/


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Owners of Nigerian private jet seized in South Africa with $9.3m cash release statement

It was revealed yesterday that South African police are investigating two Nigerians and an Israeli citizen who tried to bring $9.3m (about N1.48bn) in cash into the country illegally, in a supposed arms deal.

The funds were allegedly seized by the South African Revenue Servise at Lanseria Airport, north-west of Johannesburg, on September 5 and are now being held at the central bank pending police investigations.

South Africa’s City Press newspaper reported that bundles of unused $100 bills packed in three suitcases were transported in a small businessjet from the Nigerian capital, Abuja.
The three passengers said they were using it to buy arms for the Nigerian security services, City Press said.

Reports in some sectionsof the Nigerian media alleged that the private jet at the centre of the controversybelongs to the president of the Christian Association of Nigeria, Ayo Oritsejafor.
However, a company Eagle Air Company, has released a statementclaiming ownership of the aircraft but denying complicity in the movement of the cash.

The management of the company said in a statementthat the seized aircraft, a Bombardier Challenger 600, Registration No N808HG, had since the 2nd of August 2014 been leased to and is operated by Green CoastProduce Limited.

They said any issuesthereforehave to be directed to the Management of Green CoastProduce Limited.
On its own part, Green CoastProduce Limited released a statementconfirming that the aircraft was leased to it by Eagle Air.

“We have since that time been running and managing charterservices with the aircraft in accordance and compliance with global best practices.

“On the 5th of September 2014 the aircraft was hired from us by a John Ishyaku. The charterto John Ishyaku was upon the following documented terms:

a) Depart Abuja-Johanessburg on the 5th of September 2014
b) Return to Abuja on the 6th of September 2014
c) To wait and return with the passengers.

“The said terms are normative within the industry.

“As with every other aircraft chartercompany, our knowledge of the cargo carried on the aircraft was in accordance with the information provided by ABC Limited. All cargo were accompanied by passenger who could readily defend the contents. We are not and cannot be privy to any alleged extraneous cargo transported on the aircraft other than that declared in the agreed terms of hire.

“We are not liable and cannot be construed as a party to any alleged infractions, either in Nigeria or South Africa as he case may be, after the hire of the aircraft.

“We issue this statement without prejudice to any statutory or commissioned investigation being conducted or to be conducted in South Africa or Nigeria.”

Could this be true?

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"Shocking: Missing NigerianAir force Jet, Linkedto Synagogue Church Building Collapse!

A Nigerian Air Force Alpha jet, suspected to have been hijacked and has been missing since last week Friday is being said to have been used in attacking ProphetT. B. Joshua's Synagogue Church of all Nations (SCOAN), resulting in a collapsed that killed several people.

The Founder and General Overseer of the SCOAN, T. B. Joshua, had during Sunday service, made it known that Boko Haram attacked the collapsed six-storey building with a mysterious jet. In his own words; "There was a jet hovering over the mountain where I had just left…They said it was hovering at a close range and before I knew it, I received a phone call that the same jet was hovering over the building, passing around the building four times at a very close range before it collapsed."
He supported this point by releasing CCTV footage of the jet hovering close to the building just before it's collapse.

The Director of Defence Information, Maj.-Gen. Chris Olukolade had said that the jet, marked NAF 466, disappeared from the radar on Friday.

He continued, stressing that search and rescue efforts were still ongoing to establish contact with the crew. They have also reached out to neighbouring countries like Cameroun, Niger and Chad, for any information that could lead to the whereabouts of the jet. In addition, the military has also taken the step of deploying some jets, including Mi35 helicopter gunships, to fly in the route taken by the missing aircraft as part of the search, to find it's wreckage, in case it had crashed.
Eyewitnesses close to Ikotun, Egbeda and Iyana Ipaja areas of Lagos claim to have spotteda green coloured low flying aircraft around noon when the building collapsed.
Meanwhile Ibrahim Farinloye, the southwestcoordinator for the National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA), today revealed the death toll from the incident is now 45."

See the footage of a "strange aircraft" that hovered over SCOAN and is purported to be behind the crash of the multi-storey building here:

www.nigerianbulletin.com/media/exclusive-security-footage-of-synagogue-building-collapse-strange-airplane-allegedly-behind-it.534/media

Hi BetaThings , 'you still there?

Lacomus: Initially I thought it was a joke , this shows that there is corruption even in construction industry, I wonder which company set this trap for 15 lives , it a shame in other news I think it's high time believers wake up from their slumber because the devil is very busy nw , first it was pstor Chris Family nw synagogue Church

I love your response, Lacomus. Most people, even professed Christians, are rather gleefully reposting and commenting as if the disaster is a thing of joy to them. Some haters probably are saying, 'gotcha', but is it right to jubilate over the loss of human lives? Given that people may believe it is the judgment of God on SCOAN or TB Joshua, but my question is, "are you sure of that?". I'll like to refer to Christ's response on a similar incidences in Luke 13:

[1 ] There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. [2 ] And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? [3 ] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. [4 ] Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? [5 ] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

You're kidding me, right? Only those words from things common in Nigeria but unknown to the Europeans and other languages before - like yam, juju, tango, okra, dashiki - are genuinely relevant as originating from Nigerian languages. Most others are from other African and Carribean origins.

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And someone said my post is a falsehood!!!

BetaThings: And the same Christians and their campaign of plunder were removed by Simoin Bolivar from South America
So?

I recall the propaganda in 2003.
Sadam was the greatest threat to world peace
He had nuclear weapons
He could launch in 45 minutes etc
we need to remove him to bring peace to the Middle East

I wonder how many people currently sermonising said anything when Muslims were being systematically wiped out in Bosnia in the 80-90s
We know better
ISIS and Boko Haram are evil. Remove them and just stop the propaganda and blackmail against Islam
Christians can posture as much as they like - but they have massacred more people than any other group can ever do
Were you so accommodating, the Israelis would not have ran away from Europe!

There you go! You've got to convince me how Christian the US is to invade Iraq based on false criminal accusations. Though I'll give it to the Americans that Saddam was constituting a nuisance to the world by trying to create his own caliphate with annexation of weak neighbouring nations like Kuwait and impending threat of invasion of the biggest power player in Arabian penisula, Saudi Arabia. But if you ask me, it's not an American problem, but a matter for the UN to decisively handle.

If the world was not concerned about Muslim genocide in Bosnia, why then did they intervene? The only flaw was that the intervention was quite late, but that was because there was no real economic gains achievable in that area. Bad of the West to have been so selfish in that.
But then, can you tell me the vital roles Muslim nations played in Bosnia or even in check mating Saddam's threat? Apart from Saudi, Kuwait and the threatened Arabian neighbours of Saddam who put in quite huge financial support, what was the roles of other Muslim nations to help their brothers? See why I can't just condemn US outright for taking the initiative?

Christians have never, I say never, massacred anyone. You can blame the Catholics for that and I believe there are Catholics on NL who should explain that to us. They did not only kill Muslims, they killed Christians too for disagreeing with their false doctrines which are not justified in the Bible. Christianity is completely against physical violence and that is why true Christians are most often the target of persecution, starting from the Romans to the current ISIL/ISIS/IS. The Bible says to turn the other cheek, so anyone perpetrating violence is unChristian.

But I wouldn't say the same of Quran which encourages violent Jihad against kafirs and whose premise is now being used by Takfiris to destroy lives and properties. The onus is on you as a Muslim to educate people as to why premises like this should be discarded and expunged from quranic values in our civilized age to foster world peace.

BetaThings: Quoting a lot of comments from Christians and their allies about Islam is not so great
But I just want to expose your own hypocrisy
We can quote thousands of comments from Western (Russian) press about the abominable acts of Russia (the West) on the current events in Ukraine
And they will all prove nothing

However we know that as Muslims no matter what we do you will continue to criticise us until we become Christians
That will be the only thing that will satisfy you
Unfortunately that will be a backward step to a life of blackmail, defamation, falsehood and intrigue

By the way, since you appear so concerned about (world) peace, shall we discuss the history of Christianity and Islam in that regards

Unfortunately, I'm not here to criticize Muslims, but to challenge their apathy and unnecessary defence in face of attrocities perpetuated by people who use the same religion to cover up. If you say Christians (both professed and true) too have had their bad days, I'll say, "Yes, you're right". So, where's the hypocrisy in that? Sarah Palin can say anything from her comfort zone in a posh neighbourhood after drinking much tea laced with whatever, yet she's out of line calling for indiscriminate death to citizens of Muslim nations. Russia is not Christian, mind you. Talking of blackmail, defamation, falsehood...? Never my style. With me, the hammer falls on anyone out of line, no matter the profession of religion.

Now, about your challenge on discussing world peace through the history of Christianity and Islam, I'm game, Buddy. But we've got to premise discussions on verifiable truths only, not shenenigans and concoctions. You'll sure see my hammer fall on both the Catholic Crusaders as well as Islamist Caliphates. We'll have to dig deep into the principles preached through the guiding books of Christianity and Islam, rather than concentrate on the misdeeds of false Christianity and Misunderstanders of Islam. That is my style. Are you game? Then, throw your first shot.

Perhaps you should impress on the Muslim Mods of this page to send the discourse to fp so that we can have a more varied and robust discussion. That is if they are confident enough that Muslims will be able to explain to us better why so many are silent and the few responding only in defence of status quo in the face of this most grievious world threat.

They are now dragging us to the brink of a probable world war.

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"US announces coalition to fight Islamic State
Last updated: 8 hours ago
Obama saysnew Nato-led coalition willconfront group,cut its funding,and support those opposed to " savage nihilism " .
The US hasannounced that Nato allieshave agreed to form a coalition to fight the Islamic State,with Barack Obama stating the group's " savage nihilism "must be confronted.
The US president saidon Friday that the US and its key allieswould be mount a sustained effort to push back the group,formerly known as ISIL ,whichhe saidposed a significant threat to Nato countries.
There would alsobe efforts to include Middle Eastern nations inthe coalition,a concerted effort to cut the group's funding,and help those groups whichreject the " nihilism "it hasspread through Syriaand Iraq.
The announcement wasmade at the conclusion of a Nato summit inWales,after high-level talks to agree a plan by the time the UN general assemblymeets thismonth.
The coalition comprisesthe US,the UK,France,Australia ,Germany,Canada,Turkey,Italy,Poland and Denmark.
Obama saidit would stand ready " to confront thisterroristthreat with military,intelligence,lawenforcement as well as diplomatic efforts" .
" I did not get any resistance orpush back to the basicnotion that we have a criticalrole to play inrollingback this savage organisation that iscausing so much chaos inthe region and isharming so many people and poses a long-term threat to the safety and securityof Nato members, ''he said .
" So there's great conviction that we have to act,as part of the international community,to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL ,and that wasextremely encouraging. ''
Laying out a strategy for Iraq,Obama hinted at a broader military campaign,likening it to the way US forces pushed back al-Qaeda along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan,taking out the group's leadership and shrinkingthe areas it controlled.
InSyria ,he noted that moderate Syrian rebelsfighting both the group and the government of Basharal-Assad were " outgunned and outmanned"and needed aid.
Obama pressedArab alliesto reject the violent " nihilism ''projected by the group.
The US secretary of state,John Kerry,willtravel to the Middle East next week,where he expects to expand the coalition beyond Western nations.
SaidObama:" I think it isabsolutely criticalthat we have Arab states - and specifically Sunni-majority states - that are rejecting the kind of extremist nihilismthat we'reseeing out of ISIL , . . .join usactively inthe fight. ''
" What we can dismantle thisnetwork,thisforce that hasclaimed to control thismuch territory,so that they can't do usharm, ''Obama said .
Ina meeting with the foreign and defence ministers from the coalition countries,Kerry saidleaders need a clear idea about what they could contribute.Those not offering military assetscould instead provide intelligence, equipment,ammunition orweapons.
The French president,Francois Hollande,saidFrance wasdiscussing with allieswhat type of action might be taken.
Georgia,whichisnot inNato but haspreviously sent troops to Afghanistan and Iraq,wasquick to offer its support."

ISIS vs. mainstream Muslims: The media war

Posted at 4:49 pm by: isis , Islam, muslims , Quran, steven sotloff
Categories: Faith, Foreign policy, Internet, Iraq, Islam, Islamic law, Middle East, Muslim, Quran, Religious violence, Sharia,

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"“The Muslim and Arabic world needs to realize the threat that ISIS poses to their communities,” he said. “Everything in the statement was meant to send a message.”
The idea of debating militants who behead innocent journalists may seem pointless or even foolish to some observers. But it’s the audience who hears the challenge that matters, Muslim leaders said. In this case, young Muslims who may be lured to join ISIS under Islamic pretenses.
From Glasgow girl to ‘bedroom radical’ and ISIS bride
“Our front lines are the mosques from where we repel this evil with good words meant to serve humanity,” said Salam al-Marayati, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council. “Our foot soldiers are the young men and women who want to lead this struggle.”
It’s a fight in which the Internet is as crucial a battlefield as Iraq, said al-Marayati. The casualties are people like 19-year-old Aqsa Mahmood, who left her home in Scotland to join ISIS last November..."

" Barfi cited several passages from the Quran, which Muslims believe to be a direct revelation from God.
“I know the Quran, and it teaches: Fight for the sake of God, do not exceed the bounds. Verily God does not love the aggressor,” Barfi said.
Muslim scholars said the key part of this passage, which forms the backbone of Islam’s “just war” theory, is that, while self-defense is allowed, violent aggression, especially against innocents, is a grave sin.
This verse is about self-defense,” said al-Marayti. “It allows one to protect civilians by fighting combatants who attack first.”

" “By using the Quran as the basis for debate he also demonstrates that ISIS does not actually base themselves in Muslim traditions, but in the language of hatred and rage.”
Likewise, Barfi’s use of the phrase “debate with calm preachings” rings a particular note in Islam, Muslim scholars said.
It recalls earlier eras in Muslim history, when caliphs sometimes settled disagreements between Muslims, Christians and Jews through debates, not violence. That point is key, since ISIS presents itself as the true reincarnation of early caliphs.
“They fought wars, but warfare and slaughter were not the things to strive for,” Rashid said. “Training swords was easy, but training minds was hard. You proved your quality through debate.”
Or, as Barfi put it on Thursday,”There were no swords, no violence, and no releasing videos of executing soldiers.”
In the modern battle for the soul of Islam, ISIS propaganda can be as potent as swords, according to counterterrorism officials. Which is what makes Barfi’s words on Wednesday so important, said Muslim leaders."



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I like Australia's response to the Caliphates.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicalsin a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supportedspy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT... Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terroristattacks onBali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world asyour new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept yourbeliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is thatyou accept ours,and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantageof one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the countryYOU accepted.'

www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4567904,00.html

Does it have to get to violent confrontations from those oppressed by these Takfiri militants before we do something? In Nigerian northern states where BH is operating, the locals 7n alliance with the Civilian JTF are also arming for a confrontation with their oppressors. There may come time when every Tom, Dick and Harry carries a gun in the name of self preservation. After the conflicts end, howvdo you disarm a frustrated, impoverished and disadvantaged generation? There is a greater risk of anarchy that could drive all of us back into Hobbesian "State of Nature", where life is short, brutal and violent.

"Christians arm as Mideast perils mount

Across Middle East, Christian communities feel their survival is now at stake, threatened by militants of Islamic State group rampaging across Iraqand Syria, but also in Lebanon.
Associated Press
Published: 09.05.14, 23:10 / Israel News

Every day around sunset, dozens of residents of this small Lebanese Christian village on the border carry their automatic rifles and deploy on surrounding hills, taking up positions and laying ambushes in case Muslim extremists from neighboring Syria attack.

"We all know that if they come, they will slit our throats for no reason," said one villager as he drove through the streets of Qaa, an assault rifle resting next to him.

For months, Lebanese Christians have watched with dread as other Christians flee Islamic extremists in Syria and Iraq, fearing their turn will come next. Fears multiplied after militants from Syria overran a border town last month, clashing with security forces for days and killing and kidnapping Lebanese soldiers and policemen.

Now, for the first time since the Lebanese civil war ended in 1990, Lebanese Christians are rearming and setting up self-defense units to protect themselves, an indication of the growing anxiety over the expanding reach of radical Islamic groups.
Across the Middle East, Christian communities as old as the religion itself feel their very survival is now at stake, threatened by militants of the Islamic State group rampaging across Iraq and Syria.

In Iraq, thousands of Christians have fled their homes after they were made to choose between leaving, converting to Islam or facing death. For the first time in centuries, Iraq's Ninevah region and the provincial capital of Mosul have been emptied of Christians. After they left, the militants spray-painted their houses with the letter "N'' for "Nasrani" - an archaic term used to refer to Christians - marking the homes as Islamic State property.

In Syria, thousands of Christians have been displaced during its three-year conflict. Christian towns and villages have come under attack by jihadists, most recently the historic central town of Mahradeh. Islamic fighters in Syria rampaged through the ancient Christian town of Maaloula near Damascus earlier this year, destroying historic churches and icons. Christians in the militant stronghold of Raqqa were forced to pay an Islamic tax for protection.

Christian refugees from Iraq and Syria are now sheltering in Lebanon, sensing safety in a pluralistic country which has the largest percentage of Christians in the Middle East. Lebanon is also the only Arab country with a Christian head of state.
But the fear has spread to Lebanon as well. This week, after a video was posted online showing a group of boys burning an Islamic State flag in a Christian neighborhood of Beirut, vandals spray-painted the outer walls of several churches in northern Lebanon with the words: "The Islamic State is coming."

In Qaa and Ras Baalbek, two Christian villages in the northeast, on the border with Syria, the anxiety is palpable. Many of the thousands of expatriates who used to spend the summer here stayed away this year. Restaurants and the villages' main squares were deserted on a recent day.

The sale of weapons on the black market has climbed sharply. The arming effort is backed by some leftist and communist Lebanese militias who have long had weapons. The Shiite armed group Hezbollah has also indirectly supported such efforts, seeing the communities as a first line of defense for Shiite towns and villages in Lebanon's eastern Bekaa region.
Sitting in his house few kilometers (miles) away from areas controlled by jihadi fighters in Syria, Suleiman Semaan, a political activist in Ras Baalbek, said the mobilization in the village was purely for self-defense.

He and other residents said they were especially alarmed by an attack last month in which militants from Syria overran the Lebanese border town of Arsal for several days, killing and abducting a number of soldiers and police. The attack was the worst spillover of Syrian violence since the uprising began in March 2011.

"We don't want to attack anyone and we don't want anyone to attack us," Semaan said.

But the rearming of Christians could raise tensions in Lebanon, which is already bitterly split over the Syrian conflict. During Lebanon's own 15-year civil war, the right-wing Phalange party engaged in heavy fighting on behalf of the country's once-dominant Christians.

In Syria and Iraq, however, Christians have always been a scattered minority, and rather than mobilize to protect themselves, they enjoyed relative security for decades under the rule of secular dictatorships. Now, as vast swaths of both countries have fallen out of government control, many Christians are looking elsewhere for safety.

In northeastern Syria, small Christian units have been fighting under the umbrella of the People's Protection Unit, a Kurdish militia. But most Christians in Syria, as well as Iraq, say they simply don't have the numbers, arms or training to combat the battle-hardened Islamic militants.

The number of Christians in the Middle East has been in decline for decades because of waves of attacks, regional upheaval and sectarian tensions.

Iraq was home to an estimated 1 million Christians before the 2003 US-led invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein. Since then, militants have frequently targeted Christians across the country, bombing their churches and killing clergymen. Under such pressure, many Christians have left, and church officials now put the community at around 450,000.
Many Syrian Christians, who make up about 10 percent of Syria's pre-war population of 23 million, left for Europe over the past 20 years, with the flight gathering speed since 2011.

Amir, a 41-year-old Christian, came to Lebanon last year from the northeastern Syrian region of Hassakeh, where Arabs, Kurds, Assyrians, Syriacs and Armenians traditionally lived together in peace. He is now looking for work in Lebanon, staying with his brother in a Christian area north of Beirut, and considering whether to apply for immigration.
"I don't want to give up on Syria, but I want my children to grow up feeling safe. I want them to grow up in a place where they can proudly make the sign of the cross without fear," he said, as two of his children played with cousins nearby. He said 25 members of his extended family have left Syria over the past two years.

Umm Milad, a 27-year-old Iraqi housewife, came to Lebanon with her husband and two sons after Islamic State fighters put the "N'' sign on their home in Mosul's Al-Arabi neighborhood in July. They were given 24 hours to leave.
"We are scared," she said while waiting to collect aid at a Chaldean church in Beirut. "We don't want to go back. We want to go anywhere else. Canada or America."

Many Christian villagers, like the driver in Qaa, only spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity, fearing for their safety. Others, like Amir and Umm Milad, gave only their first name or nickname for the same reason.
During a visit to Iraq on Aug. 18, Lebanese Foreign Minister Gibran Bassil, a member of the right-wing Christian Free Patriotic Movement, urged Christians not to leave the region. "If Christianity becomes extinct in Iraq it will end in the whole region. Iraq and our region will lose pluralism.""
But for Sahira Hakim, a housewife from Baghdad who is now in Lebanon applying to immigrate to a third country, there is no going back to Iraq, and her native country will never be the same.
"We Christians are like roses. If you remove them from a garden, it will not be beautiful anymore," she said.

www.ijreview.com/2014/09/174953-muslim-leaders-alabama-condemn-isis-murder-steven-sotloff/

"Muslim LeadersInAlabama Defy Stereotypes With Strong Message to ISISOver MurderOf Steven Sotloff

More Muslims living in Western countries are coming forward to condemn ISIS. The latest example is the Birmingham Islamic Society in Hoover, Alabama.
The BIS released a statement to Al.com that reads:
The Birmingham Islamic Society would like to reiterate its condemnation of the un-Islamic and morally repugnant violence of the so-called extremist group ‘ISIS,’” the statement said. “Last month, BIS had expressed solidarity with several American Islamic organizations that condemned the killing of journalist James Foley by ISIS and had called for Steven Sotloff’s immediate release.
“No words can describe the horror, disgust and sorrow felt by Muslims worldwide and in America at the unconscionable violence perpetrated by the terror group ISIS in the name of religion. The criminal actions of ISIS are antithetical to the faith of Islam.
“Such brutal acts must face redoubled efforts by people of all faiths and backgrounds to promote peace and justice and to reject the religious divisions these monstrous acts are designed to create. Our hearts go out to Mr. Sotloff’s loved ones and to all the loved ones of those murdered by ISIS.”
This comes on the heels of British Muslim leaders releasing a fatwa denouncing ISIS and Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, holding rallies against ISIS.
For its part, this is not the first time the Birmingham Islamic Society denounced terrorism. In fact, they have a prominent link on the front page of their website, making clear their stance against terrorism.
As the Islamic world confronts the reality that there are Muslims who are committing
atrocities and murder in the name of Islam, Muslims who reject violence and extremism should continue to be encouraged to be a voice against the barbarians.
The only way Islamic terrorism and extremism will end is if Muslims demand it ends."

PastorKun: This got me laughing. The demonstration they did then exposed a high level of hypocrisy and conceit.

If that got you laughing, what about this proper self-protection tactic?

Rilwayne001: www.islam21c.com/politics/conclusive-scholarly-opinions-on-isis/

Where are the Nigerian Moslem scholars? In hiding from BH?

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These extremist cowards aren't so tough after all. See them in the video whine and cry like babies when captured and slapped around a bit by security forces. Yet, they are capable of putting a knife to the neck of others when they have the advantage.

I'm not posting this to support the unjust torture by the Iraqi forces, but to show the lilly livered nature of these Islamists who seem so tough when they kill others. Most, if not all of them, are just misguided novices. I would have been impressed if with every slap, they were still shouting "Allahu Akbar", which they chant to celebrate destruction whenever they score a devastating hit against their innocent targets.

Another one shown in the picture under is saving his most valued asset for the rainy day when he meets his 72 virgins.

THE THREAT IS REAL AND COULD CONSUME US ALL IF WE FAIL TO SPEAK OUT AND ACT FAST. The situation is becoming more alarming and our northern states are in grave danger, yet we can hardly hear the Muslims voice out strong condemnations of this monster threatening our very existence as a country and as individual free born human beings.
Meanwhile, most of those speaking out are the extremists who encourage the Islamic caliphates and fuel the zeal of other disgruntled Muslims to join the carnage as the whole world is placed under threat! The few others only contribute weak responses by blaming the West, other religions and even critics of the Islamists' onslaught.

Chike Okonkwo wrote:

"There are now genuine fears of a copycat Islamic State being fully established in Nigeria, taking after the group that has now established a quasi-state on Iraqi territory. Security experts fear that Maiduguri, the capital of Borno State, is seriously in danger of being captured by Boko Haram, in what would be the insurgents’ biggest statement of intent so far. Bama, the second biggest town in Nigeria’s biggest state by land mass, fell to the militants on Monday ─ despite denials by the military authorities. Maiduguri is less than an hour’s travel from Bama. Foreign ministers of Nigeria, Benin, Cameroon, Chad and Niger held a one-day meeting on Wednesday to discuss the crisis, with officials from the US, Britain, France and Canada in attendance. The African Union and UN were also fully involved in the meeting. Fears were expressed behind closed doors that a Boko Haram-held Islamic State in northern Nigeria would destabilise not just the country but the rest of Africa...

“Unless swift action is taken, Nigeria could be facing a rapid takeover of a large area of its territory reminiscent of Isis’s lightning advances in Iraq,” he said. “If Borno falls to Boko Haram, parts of [neighbouring] Yobe and Adamawa [states] can be expected to follow. Parts of Cameroon along the border area would also probably be overrun.” Abuja-based Daily Trust reported on Wednesday that seven emirs had fled their palaces in Borno and Yobe States as the insurgents gain more territory.Thousands of Nigerians have also fled the villages, while young men are being conscripted into Boko Haramas fighters.

“From all indications, they now have a standing force of say 7,000 foot soldiers and they are well funded,” a security agent told TheCable. According to him, “It is now glaring that the series of bombings that we witnessed during Ramadan period were designed to take attention away from their build-up towards a mass assault on the Nigerian state.” The militants easily take over military and police barracks, almost without resistance most times, further fuelling fears that a large territory cutting across Yobe, Borno and Adamawa states is just a matter of time. They are known to have not just ordinary weapons but armoured tanks ─ initially thought to have come in only from Libya after the fall of Muammar Ghaddafi. Australian negotiator, Dr. Stephen Davis, who was in the militants’ camp for four months trying to secure the release of the kidnapped schoolgirls, recently told TheCable that Boko Haram is well organised.

“They have five major camps on the Nigerian border with Cameroon, Chad and Niger plus another major camp in the Sambisa forest and one on the border between Yobe and Borno States.“When they attack a town, they empty the treasury of the banks.That is another source of funding for them. They are gradually depopulating many villages in the state, taking them over and foisting their flag. They are very well organised and becoming very good strategists. “By the time they are done with the villages, they will have a very good base from where they will launch attacks onMaiduguri, with the aim of taking it over and proclaiming the caliphate thatthey desire,” he said."

Read more at: http://www.thecable.ng/fears-mount-over-maiduguris-possible-fall-to-boko-haram-as-is
lamic-state-dawns | TheCable

Raymond Onwaeze wrote:

"NIGERIA SHARIA -THE DAYS OF RECKONING!!! Sometime at d start of d 4th Republic a certain Governor in Zamfara state (now Senator) woke up & open Sesame, we had a Sharia State, d new Utopia. Like wildfire d system spread to other Northern states & most prominent Northerners endorsed it as d way forward. Now enter d Caliphate. Wen d BH caliphate swept into Borno state, i heard Muslims were all runing, abandoning town after town including Gwoza & now Bama. I had thought wit a Sharia enforced Caliphate, BH shud have been warmly welcomed. A Caliphate where no alcohol, no allocation from alcohol VAT, no free women, strict enforcement of laws for rich & poor like amputations for d rich thieves, flogging for fornication etc. But wait, they are runing from d Caliphate inspired by Zamfara & co. Hmmm, now dey cannot eat their cake & have it as dey did in Nigeria ...dey are running!!!"

Kemi Martins wrote:

"It is in the same way that Apathy aids Corruption, that the Silence of the majority of Muslim aids the terrorism of the few Extremists. Until Muslims change their sense of outrage to where the beheading of journalists By ISIS is a far more grievous sin than someoneburning the Koran or Insulting the Prophet, it would be an uphill task to convince anyone thatany peace can be achieved through thatfaith. When Muslims the world over begin to protest the killing of women and children by extremistswith greater outrage than we have witnessedover issues such as cartoons or articlesabout the prophet,then the Jihadists would begin to lose their voices and gain morality. This is the plain truth."

Shock: Looks like you are a mouth piece for the Kremlin midget.

There's something called covert invasion, you dumbass! - Here's out it works.

1) Send thousands of your military into a neighbouring country along with Tanks, artillery, howtizers etc.

2) Claim they are only "volunteers"/ Russian soldiers on leave (Who knew that when soldiers go on leave in Russia they take their tanks with them?)

3)If caught, claim that those Soldiers got lost - 60 km into an adversary's territory

4) Lie, then lie some more, say on Repeat "there is no Russian military involvement in Ukraine", say it over and over again, till the mindless Russian populace and their brainless African sympathizers believe it.

I agree with you. It's just a covert op, not full scale war. Russia will not go the whole hog with this invasion. They are just flying a kite as a test of the resolve of Nato. Russian economy cannot sustain a head on confrontation with Nato, and they very well know that. Ukrainian forces know as well that it's foolhardy to confront Russian military might and they have tactically withdrawn, while awaiting the next steps from Nato.

Everyone knows that if Russia could pull this off for free, they would have done so since. It's not their first attempt at bullying their neighbors. But already, Russia is calling for immediate cease-fire in a dialogue as against the previous tough stance of threatening nuclear power.


m.aljazeera.com/story/20149163526463874

"Russia urges 'immediate ceasefire' in Ukraine

Russianforeign ministersayspeace talks should be devoted to agreeing on an immediate ceasefire without conditions.
Russia's Foreign MinisterSergeiLavrov hassaidthe talks on Ukraine crisistaking place inthe Belarusian capital, Minsk ,should seek an immediate ceasefire inthe conflict.

The statement came on Monday ahead of the Ukraine " contact group"talks that includes representatives from Russia,Ukraine,the Vienna-based OSCE securityand rightsorganisation and separatist rebelsineastern Ukraine.
Lavrov saidthat the Ukrainian forces must pull back from positions from whichthey can hit civiliantargets.
" They must leave positions from whichthey can harm the civilianpopulation, "Lavrov told students inMoscow.
" I very much count on today's negotiations being devoted above allto the task of agreeing an immediate ceasefire, without conditions. "

RussianPresident Vladimir Putin raisedthe stakes inthe conflict on Sunday by calling for the firsttime for statehood to be discussed for the restive east of the former Soviet state.

" We need to immediately begin substantive talks. . .on questions of the political organisation of society and statehood insoutheastern Ukraine, "the Russianleader saidinan interview with Channel 1state television.

However,Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov saidthere wasno new endorsement from Moscow for rebel independence.Askedif " NewRussia" ,a term pro-Moscow rebelsusefor their territory,should still be part of Ukraine, Peskov said :" Of course . "
" Only Ukraine can reach an agreement with NewRussia,taking into account the interests of NewRussia,and thisis the only way to reach a political settlement, "he added.

Moscow haspreviously only called for " federalisation"that would grant greater rightsto the eastern regions of Ukraine,where predominantly Russianspeakerslive.

Past talks by the " contact group"have covered technical issues such as accessto the crashsite of a Malaysian airlinershot down inJuly ,but not political questions.Kiev rejects direct talks with the rebels .

Ukraine's military saidon Monday that its forces were battling a Russiantank battalion for control of a vital airport inthe east of the country.

Fighting continued to rage near Luhansk,the region's other main city,for control of the main civilianairport just to its south,the military saidina statement.

" Ukrainian paratroopers are fighting a tank battalion of the Russianarmed forces to hold the airport, "it said .
Inthe past 24 hours,the separatists had lost 80fighters,some armoured vehicles and a missilesystem ,the military said ,giving no figures for Ukrainian losses .

Ina statement on Monday,President Petro Poroshenko accused Moscow of " direct and open aggression"against his country.
Poroshenko,speaking at a military academy inKiev,saidRussia's direct involvement inthe war against the separatists ineastern Ukraine had tipped the balance on the battlefield and wasthe main reason for recent reversals .

The past week hasseen Ukrainian forces flee inthe path of a new rebel advance,drawing concern from Ukraine's Western allies ,who say armoured columns of Russiantroops came to the aid of a rebellion that would otherwise have been near collapse.

Meanwhile,the EU leaders agreed on Saturday to draw up new economic sanctions against Moscow.The US and EU have gradually tightened economic sanctions against Russia,firstimposed after Moscow annexed Crimea following the ousting of Kiev's pro-Russianpresident by protesters inFebruary."

heavenmade: If this is true then putin has worn this one because I am pretty sure no country will enter into war with Russia this time considering the heavy cost of lives and material it Would require

That's not exactly correct, sir. Nato spokesman annonced they are arming for a counter. Unfortunately, these superpowers are only testing their might on a foreign nation rather than directly confronting each other. Who wins and who loses? Your guess and mine should focus on Ukraine, not Russia or Nato.

O, I must say that you are very gifted. Your cartoon is creative and good, but just get some more experience on presentation aspect. I see a reat afuture cartoonist and artist.

British Film Maker Why my Step Brother and others have become Islamic extremists:

news.yahoo.com/bianna-golodryg-interviews-robb-leech-025356716.html

From my study, I discovered that a lot of people who become radicalized by the Takfiris are vulnerable with the same factors that drives our youth into campus cults; hunger, poverty, illiteracy, loneliness, boredom, frustration, hopelessness, financial recklessness, desire for high life, adventure and sense of belonging to a group that accepts them even with their flaws. While looking for solutions, they delve into a world of apparent dangers and in anger start to accept the extremist indoctination.

The following is an excerpt from the above article:

"Americans and Europeans have become increasingly concerned to hear of members of their own countries who have turned away from Western society and joined extremist groups like the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIL. Reports that the ISIL killer of American journalist James Foley might have been a British national have fueled fears that terrorists could be living among friends and neighbors in the Western world.

Leech says that he believes that for his brother, the transition to radicalism did not come out of the blue. “He was probably vulnerable,” he said, “He was probably quite lonely. He definitely was on his own journey to make sense of the world and to find meaning in life. … He met some of these guys, and they sort of took him under their wing.”"

Every right thinking person knows that just because some who call themselves Moslems are committing heinous crimes doesn’t mean all Moslems are in support. But holding grudges against those attributing the violence to Islam is not the answer. You must realize that the refusal of Moslems, especially the more enlightened ones, to speak out against these vices suggests to many non Moslems that this is the definition if Islam. That is why contributions and discussions by others on Islamic religious posts always seem like a religious war. But you have to understand that it is what they see that they conclude on.

Instead of speaking out, many Moslems are busy on the defensive lines, bent on condemning those who speak, accusing them of bigotry or hate. The better approach would be to educate both Moslems and non Moslems about your true ideals, if they are different from those of the extremists. We must realize that the spread of these Takfiri groups and their attrocities are causing so much hatred, so much profiling of Moslems all over the world. Who will want to feel free nowadays in company of a woman wearing hijab when we hear that these BH Takfiris have already devised a method of suicide bombing using hijab as camoflague?

Instead of the Islamic leaders to feel jittery at criticism, it's time for them to speak out against the attrocities of these extremist groups so that their silence does not suggest consent.

Seun: I think the muslim mods of this section are in a very good position to do that. If that doesn't work out, pls mail the supermods ... thanks!!

I wonder on what basis the closure of the thread would stand. If it's about false information, there is no concocted information here. Various news sites are quoted as sources and no unsubstantiated fabrication. Closing the thread just because one chap is afraid to express his opinions without the use of uncouth words will do no justice to such a vibrant topic that should be adequately thrashed with knowlege and intelligence.
If anyone should be banned, it's those using foul words. Though they at times disguise the words, anyone will easily sniff them out.

The whole world is feeling the scourge of this extremist Islamism and we should all join hands to condemn the onslaught. Who knows, we may happen to be their next victims if the tide is not stemmed.

PastorKun: Height dishonesty mixed with ignorance. Even complete imbeciles know that what happened in Rwanda, vietman and Iraq had no religious basis.

I guess the error that is being committed by our gentleman Muslim apologist here is to assume that anything that cannot be blamed on Muslims must be blamed on Christians. There is no such dichotomy in the real world. He has been challenging us to in defence of Christianity, account for what Hindus, Orientals, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, South Sudanese and others have perpetrated. But we all need to realize that even US and Britain and the others are no Christian nations. They are secular. But North Sudan, Iraq, Syria and the other areas where violence is rife and Takfirs are operating are all declared Islamic nations and that is why we're asking moderate Muslims to speak out against the violence in these areas. He asks if I'm the one to educate them. I'm only a single voice, but also, if we have other voices speaking, we may be many and be able to drown the extremists voices to help those within their influence realize the truth.