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Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 8:26pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: jesus christ did not pay tithe, yes because tithe is to be paid to someone who you consider a spiritual father and no one was about Jesus when he was on earth, hence no need to pay tithe.
And did his followers pay tithe to him since you claimed he didn't pay cos he was the spiritual leader?

After his ascension, did his apostles receive tithe from any of the early christians either?
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 8:23pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: and who said paying tithes is compulsory? Did you read my posts?hmmm
Yes, they make it compulsory, thats why they have tithe cards, envelopes and register for it. Some churches use your record to attend to you when their attention is needed by you.

The every sunday 'lashing' and 'threat' is what? Is that not compulsion by threat and nagging/force/blackmail/brainwashing?
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m):
tunapa2009: It was recorded once for Abraham abi. What prompted him to give the tithe (spoil)?
I also said that, it must be done with a cheerful heart and not grudging nor forcefully. I strongly believe in tithe...
Does it mean that because Jesus didn't speak about it, make it wrong? Or his disciples didn't speak about it,make it abolished?
If its relevant to salvation and christianity as some pastors make it seem, don't you think Jesus and the early Christian would have made mention of it at least once?
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 5:19pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: so why did you quote those verses? You dont even have a reason for doing what you do, tithe is giving! But in a special form, what i'm telling you is that giving is biblical!
Sorry but who's against giving? Tithe in any form is a compulsory giving and has no reward in heaven according to Jesus in the parable of the poor widow.

Only willful giving is appreciated in heaven/attracts blessings.
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 4:34pm On Oct 06, 2013
Culled:

Full Question

I was born and raised in the Mormon Church,
went on a mission, and did everything a good
Mormon should do, including tithing. Since my
wife and I converted to the Catholic Church we still
have nagging doubts that we should be tithing to
our parish (as we did when we were Mormons: ten percent of our gross income), except that it's
much harder to do so now that we have several
children. The Mormon Church taught me that
tithing is mandatory. What's the Catholic Church's position?

Answer

Although the Church teaches that offering some
form of material support to the Church is
obligatory for all Catholic adults who are able to
do so, it doesn't specify what percent of one's
income should be given. Remember, tithing was
an Old Testament obligation that was incumbent on the Jews under the Law of Moses. Christians
are dispensed from the obligation of tithing ten
percent of their incomes, but not from the
obligation to help the Church. The key to understanding how God wants us to
give to the Church is found in 1 Corinthians 16:2,
"On the first day of the week [Sunday] each of you
should set aside whatever he can afford," and in 2
Corinthians 9:5-8, So I thought it necessary to encourage the
brothers to go on ahead to you and arrange in
advance for your promised gift [donation], so that
in this way it might be ready as a bountiful gift
and not as an exaction. Consider this: Whoever
sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap
bountifully. Each must do as already determined
without sadness or compulsion, for God loves a
cheerful giver. Moreover, God is able to make
every grace abundant for you, so that in all things,
always having all you need, you may have an abundance for every good work. To paraphrase: God doesn't demand a fixed
amount of money from us; he wants us to give
from the heart. If people are forced by their
church to give a certain percent of their income,
that's extortion. If they give freely and cheerfully
the amount they are able, that's a gift.
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 4:29pm On Oct 06, 2013
jambogini: Please list the churches or congregations aside from Jehovah's Witness that dont pay tithe, i do like to visit such congregations.
I think the catholics don't (someone said so on this thread)
Latter rain assembly don't preach tithe either
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 4:12pm On Oct 06, 2013
Tom29: devil don dey capture dis one. devil knows d bible more than any human being. we must resist him and spot all d anti christ like dis one. 95% of dis site members are anti christ. all must shine dier eyez
Sorry but who is this and how does your comment contribute anything to the discussion on ground?

Paying or not paying tithe is now what's being used to gauge who is of christ or anti?

You have no knowledge of the word, go seek the word now that you still have the chance to.

My last word to you...
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 3:57pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: is that the only point you read? I'm not here to argue about this, i just discovered i'm wasting my mb by replying You'...I've told you the truth, if you like accept, if you like refuse it, It's your choice.....you like quoting only the versions of the bible that favours you, you look blindly at the real things and focus on what favours You'...It's your choice... mal3:11="....if i will not rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil...." does this ring a bell? ....tithe is being paid to someone who is spiritually higher than you, or who you consider a spiritual father...was anyone above Jesus when he was on earth? No, no one was...above the apostles?? I dont know of any, Paul did not pay because he was not a worker...he was a stern evangelism who feeds from what others give...bible passages shows that people paid tithe or what looks like tithe during the days of the apostles, the story of ananias and his wife is a clear example....you know the truth, but You've refused to accept it, You've blinded your mind from the truth, if you dont want to pay your tithe, feel free but dont preach it as a doctrine of christ....!...Walks out of the thread*
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 3:55pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: is that the only point you read? I'm not here to argue about this, i just discovered i'm wasting my mb by replying You'...I've told you the truth, if you like accept, if you like refuse it, It's your choice.....you like quoting only the versions of the bible that favours you, you look blindly at the real things and focus on what favours You'...It's your choice... mal3:11="....if i will not rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil...." does this ring a bell? ....tithe is being paid to someone who is spiritually higher than you, or who you consider a spiritual father...was anyone above Jesus when he was on earth? No, no one was...above the apostles?? I dont know of any, Paul did not pay because he was not a worker...he was a stern evangelism who feeds from what others give...bible passages shows that people paid tithe or what looks like tithe during the days of the apostles, the story of ananias and his wife is a clear example....you know the truth, but You've refused to accept it, You've blinded your mind from the truth, if you dont want to pay your tithe, feel free but dont preach it as a doctrine of christ....!...Walks out of the thread*
Don't turn it into a fight, let me ask you again, who among the early christians pay tithe? Kindly help with bible reference too and pls stop quoting malachi for questions pertaining the new testament.

YOU MEAN THE STORY OF Annaias & Sapphira WAS ABOUT TITHE? Anything to support what you can backup?

How does this concern tithe?

Acts 5:1-11 New International Version (NIV) Ananias and Sapphira Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest
and put it at the apostles’ feet. 3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the
Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the
money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was
sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What
made you think of doing such a thing? You have
not lied just to human beings but to God.” 5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what
had happened. 6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him
out and buried him. 7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for
the land?” “Yes,” she said, “that is the price.” 9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the
men who buried your husband are at the door,
and they will carry you out also.” 10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding
her dead, carried her out and buried her beside
her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 3:24pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: please scroll up and read all the previous messages i posted....if you still dont understand, then ask again.... Hints:false.prophets* not.compulsory* you.dont.need.it.to.enter.heaven* It's.not.a.sin* it.serves.as.a.shield.of.protection*
Paying tithe serves as protection? Wonders! did any of the founders of christianity pay tithe? If yes, who and who with references.
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 3:14pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: false prophets are everywhere, they preach about wealth and not salvation, but because they always preach about tithe does not mean It's wrong, you have a choice, you either pay it or you dont, they wont force you to sign a cheque!
Oga, kindly address my questions, what comments aren't contributing to the growth of those who need clarification on this issue.
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 3:07pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: it is not compulsory, if you dont want to pay your tithe, suite yourself.
If its not compulsory, why do the pastors preach about it every sunday with curses attached to it if you don't pay?

Are those not paying tithe eating from hand to mouth? Why the 'noise' on tithe by the pastors? What is the place of tithe in making heaven?

What is the role of tithe in salvation Jesus came to give freely?
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by honeric01(m): 2:44pm On Oct 06, 2013
Where is the sense in giving "God' 10% of what God gave you so he can open the windows of heaven to pour more unto you so the circle can continue?

Would a father expect his children to give him 10% of the 'pocket money ' he gives them so as to give them more?

Jesus preached mostly on generous giving and frown on compulsory giving.

Any compulsory giving lacks dignity and no blessing is attached to it says our lord Jesus Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Which Is Your Best Gospel Songs And Artists? by honeric01(m): 12:09pm On Oct 06, 2013
Cece winnas
Donnie mcurckie
Michael W Smith.

All these people's songs.
PoliticsRe: ASUU Disburses Fg's N30b To Lecturers by honeric01(m): 8:40am On Oct 06, 2013
^^^^

so its only you that have someone in ASUU abi?

You are funny, you're not worth my precious sunday.
PoliticsRe: ASUU Disburses Fg's N30b To Lecturers by honeric01(m): 7:33am On Oct 06, 2013
Demdem: His reputation is wellknown here. Their kind dont relent in their evil deeds. Its a shame. A big shame.
You dey mind am?
PoliticsRe: ASUU Disburses Fg's N30b To Lecturers by honeric01(m): 7:32am On Oct 06, 2013
wesley80: What is the lie? That lecturers were not paid or they didnt resolve to call off the strike when they receive 50% of their outstanding allowance? What exactly am I lying about? I'm waiting for you guys to prove me wrong. I've thrown down the gauntlet, go make enquiries and tell me Federal lecturers didnt receive their pay on friday, till then you and the rest may as well keep quiet like the paper intellectual that tried those cheap lines before you. You should be thankful someone is feeding you with internal scoops.
Feeding me with what? A cat telling a dog it should be happy its giving the dog 'milk' to drink ba?

They'll call off strike if they get their salaries, trying to make the world believe ASUU is only fighting for their salary. This won't work. We all know your stand with this govt, you can't be caught saying or spreading anything against this govt.

Do tell us something new.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by honeric01(m): 7:27am On Oct 06, 2013
AjanleKoko: Slow isn't the end of it. He is persistently caught in possesion, and not breaking up play as expected.
He plays differently, so i don't expect him to trap balls like busq.

Bartra is growing very fast and i'm loving this.

The team did absolutely well and i'm glad with the scoreline.
SportsRe: Calabar Chosen For Nigeria-Ethiopia WC Playoff by honeric01(mod): 7:20am On Oct 06, 2013
CFCfan: According to wiki, it's capacity is 25,000.
That stadium can't be 25k, merely looking at it alone is enough to tell you it should be less than 15k
SportsRe: Calabar Chosen For Nigeria-Ethiopia WC Playoff by honeric01(mod): 7:20am On Oct 06, 2013
CFCfan: @ honeric: The renovation work on the Abuja stadium has been completed since last month?m, but the NFF had some concerns about the pitch's drainage system.
There was an exhibition game held at the stadium amidst slight rainfall, which resulted in a water-logged pitch.

The Uyo stadium is scheduled to be completed in November next year.
To me, its not completed, a stadium of that magnitude not having a standard drainage system is not complete.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by honeric01(m): 9:40pm On Oct 05, 2013
AjanleKoko: Song is awful in this game. embarassed
Maybe match rusty. He's now slower.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by honeric01(m): 9:38pm On Oct 05, 2013
AjanleKoko: Why tight?

I think the boys will win well.

On second thought I take that back. lipsrsealed
Now you can see why i typed what i type.. Lol

experimentation Keshi style from tata
PoliticsRe: What Is Nigeria Known For? Is Our Country Big For Nothing? by honeric01(m): 8:54pm On Oct 05, 2013
When you find one, let me know!
SportsRe: World Cup Seeds Decided This Month by honeric01(mod): 8:19pm On Oct 05, 2013
My dream group should be

Spain
Nigeria
England
Japan!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by honeric01(m): 8:12pm On Oct 05, 2013
Its gonna be tight but i think a 2:1 is feasible to me.
PoliticsRe: ASUU Disburses Fg's N30b To Lecturers by honeric01(m): 7:57pm On Oct 05, 2013
Seeing Wesley80 as the op, i automatically knew i was going to end up reading lies similar to that of Abati and labara motiku.

Lol
SportsRe: Calabar Chosen For Nigeria-Ethiopia WC Playoff by honeric01(mod): 7:08pm On Oct 05, 2013
Have we lost any competitive match at the Abuja nationa stadium (Senior)?

Imo, i really do not fancy calabar stadium, never liked that stadium, too 'ordinary' to rep the whole of Nigeria.

I think TBS should be grassed with natural grass or we move back to Abuja if completed.
Nairaland GeneralRe: If You Are To Meet 5 Nairalanders by honeric01(m): 6:52pm On Oct 05, 2013
Naijababe

Desoul

Takedat

Ajanleko

Busybody
Music/RadioRe: Your Current Mobile Phone Ringtone? by honeric01(m): 3:35pm On Oct 05, 2013
Where can i download the Nigerian song sang by Timi Dakore?
Music/RadioRe: Your Current Mobile Phone Ringtone? by honeric01(m): 3:35pm On Oct 05, 2013
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Music/RadioRe: Your Current Mobile Phone Ringtone? by honeric01(m): 3:29pm On Oct 05, 2013
Felefele laye by Gbenga Ogundeyi
CareerRe: Questions That Will Help You Find Out Your True Self. by honeric01(m): 1:01pm On Oct 05, 2013
41 on the dot and i think the description fits me.

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