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Big us medjai, congratunobia, keep it up! Try to sustain the tempo in 2011.

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Will, praying for a better 2011, the last 6 months was HELL,

Trusted people with another person's $$$$, got bitten and left licking a wound

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   Don't preach to me about police, i have had my own fair share with the police, but that does not mean what i said about the average Nigerian attitude to the police is not on spot. the more you hate the police, the more the line is drawn and the more they misbehave.

The police didn't just get bad all of a sudden, its because of the way alot of people have neglected them, the government did the same too, the police are all by themselves, they are parents to your neighbors, they aren't ghost, alien, they didn't fall from the sky, they are all your neighbor.

So look at it this way, how do you treat your neighbor? if you are hostile to your neighbor, he/she himself is going to be hostile to you, that's the case of the police,

They got neglected, in turn, they took it out on those who neglected them, and who are the people who neglected them? you and i of course.

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Bro no blame me jare, many things just take my personal time, me sef no come get time for myself again.

Very turbulent, very tough, "met" the wrong people in life, they ended up leaving me in HUGE debts that i am still struggling to pay off.

Lost weight like hell, went from 78 to 60 (lost 18)

Lost my ability to sleep, hardly sleep, struggle to sleep, while others are sleeping, i'd be stirring at the ceiling.

Lost alot of people too (death) but none was my family member.


BUT IN ALL THESE, I STILL THANK GOD FOR THE LIFE HE GAVE TO ME.

Some Nigerians don't get it, you don't hate the police and at the same time want them to work well or like you.


The more you hate the police, the worse they become,

Make a police man your friend today, see the positive behavioral changes you get from them tomorrow.

When someone hates you like shit, you are naturally going to hate the person back,

Stop making police a case of YOU AND THEM, stop making them see you as them and seeing themselves as some alien.


Someone on this thread must be indirectly related to at least one police officer.

medjai:
really? I dey Ogunsanya o. We do share a lot in common
The whole thing is so confusing. I don't know if Baribote will be eligible to contest the election now because he has been removed as Bayelsa's chairman except they look at it in retrospect. Will Owumi be eligible to contest now? I know in two weeks time the elections would not have held. . .

Bukola Babes have relocated to the Tafewa Balewa Stadium, Bauchi as their new home ground after the Bako Kotangora Stadium, Minna was deemed unfit to hold premier league matches. Bukola Babes had earlier moved from the Offa Township Stadium, Offa, Kwara.
Niger Tornadoes have also moved to the Kaduna Township Stadium

Yes i think we do, i know Adeniyan Ogunsanya wella, actually na Aguda side i roam, was even born somewhere in Surulere and as funny as it is, my fiancee was born in the same house i was born after we relocated and they still kinda live there.

I use to tell her that once i hammer, i go buy the house, turn am to fish pond, pig poultry or even full time poultry (if neighbors go allow me )


@topic

I think we need to just watch and see, i want to see who's left to contest if Baribote and Owunmi can't contest.

Thank you BABA

Interesting, how does these AMCON stocks work again? are they different from the normal stocks or what does AMCON mean?

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You dey mind them? you dey mind that yeye baribombe? does he think he can run the league? he couldn't even run Bayelsa united, or yes he did, but ran them into oblivion, now he's looking to run the NPL into the drain just because he has seen sponsorship money,



Anyways sha, let me see what happens next.

SapeleGuy:
Bros, e don tey wen we dey manage all these akpangiri / tokunbo politrickcians, in the hope say e go betta, till today - nothing. Person wey fall for latrine must smell.  Please let us aim higher, right now nah 'tear rubber' politicians we need.

Wetin all these one mean? what if the latrine is dry? or the person wear shitproof enter the latrine?

btw, if you have any proof that Buhari is like the rest, please share and not just hearsay oo

Eleksion don finish nownow? chei, ok, GL semid

Call

Ribadu still better and cleaner than most of the contesters, but i still stand for Buhari until someone show me with facts that he's as corrupt as the rest.

This is confusing, is odudua a male or female or is this odudua different from oduduwa?
http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/yor/yor03.htm

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What do you make of this?
http://www.edo-nation.net/ekal.htm

Aigbofa:
Can you please explain to us why the links provided by Isale gan are credible enough for you and Wikipedia is not.
You don't know the authors of these websites the same way you don't know the authors of Wikipedia, or is it just a case of, if it does't support your argument then it's not credible.

Because the content in a website can be accountable to the author which can be easily traced unlike the ones on wikipedia where ANYONE can edit, modify or even corrupt ANY article written by ANYONE on wikipedia.  now you see one of the reasons?

PhysicsQED:
lol, this is not really logical. Because you read more stories and more detailed stories of the origin of one kingdom you then conclude that it came before another kingdom you haven't read much of?

But your request for people to post more relevant info on Yoruba kingdom origins is quite reasonable. Hopefully someone will supply us with detailed, sourced information.






Uh, no. Virtually every Benin artwork is younger than every Ife artwork, although some Benin artwork is older than some of Owo's.


A simple google search of Ife sculptures vs. Benin sculptures would easily show that Ife art is older than Benin art but this is not an artwork thread and this is tangential and irrelevant because earlier artwork does not prove which kingdom came first. . There were numerous kingdoms in Africa and Nigera with no sculptural tradition or major art tradition, some of which preceded both Ife and Benin.

Anways, Ife sculptors are traditionally held to have been brought to Benin in the 14th century


It's not. He's just making stuff up.

like i said, it's not just because you said so, i want to see facts that makes your point more valid than those of a hearsayer. i mean its difficult to say i am older than you without any birth certificate or SSN to prove that, so maybe you should help us with some detailed and GENERALLY AGREED VALID "fact" why you think what you wrote is the truth.


Now, why would you say the dude's making things up? got reasons for that? (valid ones).

We obviously do not have enough info to discredit or accept anyone's opinion for now or do you have any? i am yet to get any valid source, link, article or whatever that supports your stand so far so good, so i can as well conclude that you're making things up too right?

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Its for N160 and not #155.

@sochan,
Yes we all need to by voting in the right people. Have u notice how buhari distant himself from criminals?

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Lol, how far? Which part of lere u rep? Na my hood b dat too o.

ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT NIGERIANS SHOULD OPEN THIER EYES. Buhari- Utomi - Ribadu remain my choices come 2011. give us a buhari and see how all these criminals end up sick all of a sudden. With Buhari in power, ibb, obj, atiku and others WONT no peace.

Crown this, crown that! Abeg make we hia word jor hehehegehe

Nice one, little xavi, wicked genius.

@isale_gan2
Thanks for these infos, they really got some interesting findings.

Katsumoto:
There were several Yoruba Kingdoms but there was one Benin Kingdom. It is difficult to ascertain which Kingdoms came first. We know Oranmiyan did not found Benin and we also know that there were Yoruba people at Ife under Oreluere before Oduduwa arrived at Ife. In fact there were at least five documented rulers at Ife before Oduduwa. At Benin, the First Ogiso (King) was Igodo and the 31st Ogiso was Owodo who also happened to be Ekaladerhan's father and the last Ogiso before Oba Eweka the 1ST.

According to Oral traditions, Orunmila is the father of the Yoruba and he had 16 children whom he sent to rule over 16 Yoruba kingdoms including Bini (originally called Ado). Without knowing which of the kids were sent out first and where to, I can't ascertain yet which kingdom came first. But my research continues.

The links Isale gan posted's got alot of information for us and these info on these sites speaks alot of the bini kingdom, i think the Bini kingdom came first, i mean with all the details on ground, the bini kingdom have more documented backings to assert this. maybe someone might want to help us with some relevant info to the Yoruba heritage just like we have for the binis?

Also i think most of the sculptures the binis have appear older and longer than the yorubas, someone should prove me wrong with some facts backed up with at least series of authentic articles (pls no wikipedia oo).

PhysicsQED:
I would say Ife. There is supposed to be archeological evidence of very early pavements and pottery there which I think is earlier than Benin. I'll need to search for the original source/article of the info though. That is however just habitation. The real question might also be, which one existed as a centralized state first, which is more uncertain because the Ogisos, whether there were only 300 years of Ogisos or an even longer reign of Ogisos before the late 12th century when the Eweka dynasty started, have been confirmed by Esan and Urhobos as the previous Benin rulers. Furthermore a process of building defensive earthworks that would later continue under Benin started around the northern Bini area and the southern Esan area quite early (700 AD) but this does not prove conclusively Benin's existence as a centralized state at that time, although it supports it. Ife as a centralized state can probably be proven to be earlier with archeology though. I'll look around and see what I can find.

You would say? maybe you should help us with more details on how you arrived at that, some sculptures older than that of bini can go along way to support your stand, you know pictures don't lie, the bini history is very well grounded compared to some of the other kingdoms in ancient Nigeria.

bright007:
Can somebody pls make sense here!Here are some basic facts that is worth knowing for those who want to know the truth,firstly do u know that the name ODUDUWA is a BENIN name if not what does it mean in yoruba.Another one is that it is the OBA of BENIN THAT CROWNS THE Ooni OF IFE during coronation.CAN A LOWER SEAT CROWN A HIGHER ONE.THE OBA OF BENIN STOOL IS HIGHER that is why he crwons the Ooni of IFE

Interesting, but how true can this be?

eldee:
Team of gloryhunters.

You mean Barca is a team of glory-hunters? same as Chelsea, ManU and even Liverpool right? don't you know most of the fans in Nigeria started supporting European teams in the early 2000s? this is because TV coverage was not accessible back then in the old unlike now, so don't call some of them glory hunters, rather you should say they can NOW SEE THE REAL FOOTBALL being played by the REAL PLAYERS,


To be sincere, i started supporting Barcelona around 2004/2005 just because i liked their uniform then, not because of anything else, but i was blessed with the fantastic football they ended up playing, i use to support Bayern, Liverpool and Roma in the late 90s. (still have a thing for Roma and Bayern), but for Liverpool? nothing again because i got bored with their style of play after seeing beautiful football.



So once more, we welcome you Chris to our humble club where football is served on a platter of gold

So no one is an answer?

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