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CrimeRe: Another Nigerian Kid Shot Dead - London No Place To Raise Your Children ? by honeric01(m): 12:39am On Oct 25, 2010
ow11:
I see. You must be living in another Nigeria because Homeless children exist in Nigeria. Most of them are called Area boys and Almajiris. They sleep under bridges and in buses in the motor parks and yes, they stab people and fight. Osisikankwu didn't learn how to shoot a gun last year as did Soboma George who had a reputation in his secondary school days

You really need to visit public secondary schools in whatever town you live in and ask students to give you gist. Stop living in a bubble.Nigerian youths are violent and many of these cases go unreported. I bet you probably never heard about the murder in FGC PH in the 90s where a fellow student drove a screwdriver into a rival's ear.

Nigerians have only perceived morals and our press DO NOT report a lot of stories due to many reasons which I would not list BUT I would ask you to do yourself a favour and get informed. Visit Motor parks at 5.30am and see youths waking up. Don't assume they came from a house, stop and ask them where they slept and it would surprise you. These children have homes and sometimes do not return because they have nothing to eat at home.

Besides, many of the gangs of London kids are the poorest in the country and poverty riddled areas are usually strewn with violence (Nigeria is no different neither is the US) which is probably why you have no idea how depraved the country you live in actually is.
I never said there are no homeless kids in Nigeria or where did i say that?

Have you seen minors being stabbed to death before in Nigeria? if yes, what's the number? how many did you see within a year?

Yes, kids fight and all that, but you hardly see kids of 15/16yrs in Nigeria walking about (gang-style) with knifes/guns in their possession, i repeat YOU HARDLY SEE THAT except you want to cook us some stories just because you want to win a "case"

So in your mind, i never attended secondary school abi? in your mind, i never went to school? well, i am still a young man and i finished my secondary school education in the early 2000s and yes students fight and all that, students go to other schools to fight, but very rare to hear that they stabbed each-other to death. Please always put into consideration the age range (15/16), if you talk about the older ones in the universities, yes I'd agree they get to stab/kill each-other sometimes, but to say teenage-gang is prominent in Nigeria secondary schools (public), that's untrue, except you can back it up with evidence/facts.

A murder in the 90s? a murder in the whole of 90s? and you want to use that to compare what's going on in London alone? did you see the number of kids killed in London within one year? like i said, i used the word "rarely" which means it's very rare that 15/16yrs old stab/kill each-other in Nigeria or even own a GUN.

lastly, like i said, yes we have alot of homeless kids who ran away from home (especially in Lagos) some of them came as far as neighboring states because they believe money is free in Lagos, but these kids hardly commit bloody crimes (they can as well become pickpockets, carrier, wheelbarrow pushers, beggars and all that), but you can hardly hear of a 15/16yrs old going into armed robbery or stabbing his mates to death.

Do you visit motor parks at 5:30am? are you a driver? and just because they are outside about that time does not still confirm that they stab/kill each-other, let's not deviate from the points here, the point is that it's very rare to see kids of 15/16 stabbing/shooting each-other in Nigeria and it's also very rare to see kids (within 15/16yrs who has parents) outside their homes between 11pm-5am.


Most of the deaths so far reported in the UK are not of homeless kids, rather they all have parents, so why bring up the homeless stats here? the difference between the homeless in the UK and here is that the former have programs for homeless kids, they pick them off the street to avoid them causing more havoc, while the latter lacks that, these homeless kids end up becoming the nuisance of the society when they finally grow up to an adult age.

one more thing, you are not making sense with the poorest thing you are bringing up, being poor is not a visa to being a murderer/killer, if it is, then virtually most Nigerian kid would have been an ex-murderer/killer or most would have died from attacks from others. One more thing, the killing/stabbing in the UK is not just an area, it's spread across UK, before you argue further, just click on some of the links posted on this thread to enlighten yourself, stop thinking others do not know what they are talking about when it happens that you are the one who actually doesn't have an idea.


Good night.
RomanceRe: 10 Fantastic Questions That Can Save Your Relationship! by honeric01(m): 11:41pm On Oct 24, 2010
Nice, should give it a try.
CelebritiesRe: Missy Elliott Got Married? by honeric01(m): 11:35pm On Oct 24, 2010
[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=537542.msg6998250#msg6998250 date=1287829329]However, shortly after the “news” hit, Missy responded to a fan via twitter who congratulated her.

Missy Elliott responded with,

“No I did not! do not believe the lies…Ppl who have nothing better to do but talk and tell lies are #Gossip Folks! Do something more productive! #GETALIFE!…Now as I was saying all The Positive People May u have a Blessed Suckafree day *inmydiddyvoice*”[/quote]una no see these? huh
SportsRe: Goals From Nigerians All Over The World by honeric01(mod): 11:29pm On Oct 24, 2010
how then do they wait all the long period before other European league closes?
CrimeRe: Another Nigerian Kid Shot Dead - London No Place To Raise Your Children ? by honeric01(m): 11:02pm On Oct 24, 2010
^^^^^^

These names you just named weren't stabbing/shooting people at 16, they could have gone worse within months/few years, unlike these ones who have started using guns/knife at this age of their life, what is likely to become of them if they get to Anini and the names you listed's age range?


Btw: except a child without parents, it's very rare to find a child of 15/16 outside in Nigeria around 11pm, not because it's not safe for them, but because their parents can't go to bed without making sure the kids are all inside.
CrimeRe: Another Nigerian Kid Shot Dead - London No Place To Raise Your Children ? by honeric01(m): 10:56pm On Oct 24, 2010
Idowuogbo:
some parents not aall work 2 jobs
so going by dat makes u tink uk is bad for raising kids , i wonder wot oda country u got in mind besides uk cus damn no where is safe dear
wel if u aint heard take a long trek to akwa ibom wey real gangs   cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy, or beta still visit sierra lone  wink wink wink
When it comes to teenage mother, teenage deaths/ knifes and all that, UK ranks top ( google it), so you see why i still do not see UK as the right place to raise kids especially if the parents are the busy type?

Akwa Ibom minor gangs? and how many deaths you don hear? have you been there before? can you name the gangs you have seen there? and how did you know they are 15/16?  have you visited sierra lone before? why use sierra lone that is just fighting for stability after the war as an example?
CrimeRe: Another Nigerian Kid Shot Dead - London No Place To Raise Your Children ? by honeric01(m): 10:44pm On Oct 24, 2010
ezeagu:
Sometimes I wonder if this forum is actually about Nigeria or some made up country with the same name. The things some people claim with absolute certainty on these threads are fantastical. If Nigerian kids could join a gang that lives in any neighborhood in London what would their other options be?
By quoting me, you're trying to say huh huh huh huh
CrimeRe: Another Nigerian Kid Shot Dead - London No Place To Raise Your Children ? by honeric01(m): 10:34pm On Oct 24, 2010
^^^^^

Gang or no gang, still didn't erase the fact that it's not really a place to bring up a child, parents doing more than 2 jobs just to survive, kids roaming about doing whatever they feel is right to them, what do you expect?

15/16yrs old joining gangs? gosh!!! well i am yet to hear or see anywhere in Nigeria where 15/16yrs old belong to gangs.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Have You Ever Met A Fellow Nairalander In Real Life? by honeric01(m): 10:25pm On Oct 24, 2010
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SportsRe: Goals From Nigerians All Over The World by honeric01(mod): 9:38pm On Oct 24, 2010
marutimon:
Peter Ijeh must have scored at least 10 games so far since we started this topic -  he scores a goal every game and a brace every other game.
The league in Sweden has just ended and Syranska FC won the league so they will play in the top division next season. Peter Ijeh scored 17 goals in total (one behind the topscorer of the division who had 18).
Their league just ended when others just started? orishirishi tongue tongue grin
SportsRe: Pillars To Sign Arsenal's Walcott by honeric01(mod): 9:36pm On Oct 24, 2010
^^^^^^

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SportsRe: Pillars To Sign Arsenal's Walcott by honeric01(mod): 7:13pm On Oct 24, 2010
lonelydude:
I CANNOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. grin grin grin

INFACT THIS THREAD DESERVES A PLACE IN THE FRONTPAGE.
MODERATORS PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!
I do not have that power tongue
PoliticsRe: The Most Serious Issue to Face in 2012 - Referendum or Reform Conference by honeric01(m): 6:58pm On Oct 24, 2010
tashanja:
Please do me a favour, produce an alternative set of data from a more credible source that would prove otherwise; if not then continue to remain in denial for all I care - after all, ignorance is bliss - so do remain blissfully ignorant, until the day aboki who and your ilk seem to underestimate,would rudely awake you from your misplaced arrogant slumber. cool cool grin grin
Are you sick in the head or where exactly? (a question), i just asked a question which I'm yet to get an answer on, what are the major contributions of the northern states to the Nigerian economy, tired of seeing the useless stats on some of our unproductive websites, in true life, we all know Agriculture is like a dead lion being paraded in a falsely way to deceive some of us into thinking Agriculture is actually progressing in Nigeria.

We import almost all the major food we eat in Nigeria (not talking of pepper/onions here), so where did the 41% crop out from? we all know what happened to Nigeria when oil price fell from $141 to $62.
SportsRe: Pillars To Sign Arsenal's Walcott by honeric01(mod): 4:52pm On Oct 24, 2010
JOKE OF THE CENTURY grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin




Pillars to Sign Arsenal’s Walcott
October 24, 2010 No Comments

Pillars FC will sign Arsenal Striker Theo Walcott on a 1 year loan deal.

The 21-year-old, whose admirable attitude motivated by his World Cup omission last summer, has played in the Premier League and Champions League.

It was his selection for Germany 2006 that catapulted Theo into the limelight. Since then, his quick feet have slowly built his reputation as a top-level performer. And he has chosen some big Champions League games in which he displayed his finest work – Barcelona 2010 and Liverpool 2008. Pillars boss Babangida told the club website: “It’s fantastic that Arsenal have allowed such a talented young player to come out who has played more than 70 first-team games.”
SportsRe: 2010 CAF Champions League (News And Scorelines) by honeric01(mod): 10:26pm On Oct 23, 2010
Esperance please make una no fall my hand oo.
PoliticsRe: The Most Serious Issue to Face in 2012 - Referendum or Reform Conference by honeric01(m): 10:24pm On Oct 23, 2010
[quote author=Me_Aboki link=topic=536334.msg6997076#msg6997076 date=1287804688]Pls follow this link  to the National Bureau of Statistics     (http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/).

Note that the latest figures (2009) indicate that AGRICULTURE is the highest contributor to the national GDP,at 41.84% shocked shocked shocked followed; at a distant second by Wholesale & Retail, at 18.16%, then thirdly by Crude Petroleum ,at 16.05%.

Also note that Nigeria (whether you like it or not) is primarily an agriculturally based country and that the Northern States are major contributors to that sector; hence to the GDP that drives the economy - shocking isn't it ? cool cool cool[/quote]Who's deceiving who? huh undecided, the website puts Agriculture at 41%, do you personally believe it? undecided undecided undecided



TeleComm/Postal Serv
Contributed 3.67% to the GDP in 2009 Solid Minerals
Contributed 0.38% to the GDP in 2009
Manufacturing
Contributed 4.19% to the GDP in 2009 Finance & Insurance
Contributed 3.71% to the GDP in 2009
Building & Construc
Contributed 1.98% to the GDP in 2009 Agriculture
Contributed 41.84% to the GDP in 2009
Hotel and Restaurant
Contributed 0.49% to the GDP in 2009 Wholesale and Retail
Contributed 18.16% to the GDP in 2009
Crude Petroleum & Na
Contributed 16.05% to the GDP in 2009 Others
Contributed 7.04% to the GDP in 2009
SportsRe: Nigerian League Fan Thread: Enter D Place N Know Every by honeric01(mod): 10:19pm On Oct 23, 2010
dominique:
^^^ eeyah sorry.
When is the new kick-off date sef? dis una league tire me o.
which league are u talking about? abeg it's not worth mentioning angry

[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=238138.msg6997136#msg6997136 date=1287808044]How much do players in the Nigerian league earn?
Are they paid weekly or monthly?
Make una no mind my question abeg. I'm only a newbie here.[/quote]New NPL puts minimum wages at 100k, lets wait to see if it's achievable or not.
CelebritiesRe: Picture Of Bill Gates' Car by honeric01(m): 10:18pm On Oct 23, 2010
Hmmm, original dangote truck, not fit for most African roads
PoliticsRe: Why Has The World Forgotten Hiroshima & Nagasaki While The Remember Sept 11. by honeric01(m): 12:44am On Oct 23, 2010
^^^^^

These simple acts should have made you know that both countries were hostile to eachother and knew they weren't friends.

These i have tried to push into your brains that America in the first place actually dedicated pearl Harbor for their Asia threat which happened to be Japan at that time, you just wouldn't see that, will you?

Why did Japan attack just the Harbor and not mainland or other parts of the US?


it's late in the night, i can't continue with you, just stick to your part of the story while i stick to mine, don't call mine wrong because they are different from yours, i got my info from my own source which i provided part of them to you. anyways good day/night.
PoliticsNnpc, Lagos Endorse $25bn Refinery, Hydrocarbon Park Deal. by honeric01(op): 11:26pm On Oct 22, 2010
A statement signed by the Special Assistant to the Governor on Media, Mr. Hakeem Bello, said the MoU was signed at the Lagos State Ministry of Commerce and Industry, Alausa, on Thursday.The Lagos State Government and the Nigerian National Petroleum Company have signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the setting up of a Greefield refinery and hydrocarbon industrial park to be located at the Lekki Energy City within the Lekki Free Zone.

The statement quoted the NNPC Group General Manager, Greenfield Refineries, Mr. Adebayo Ibirogba, describ the occasion as a defining moment in the history of business partnerships in Nigeria.

He said, ”By this MoU, NNPC and Lagos State Government have agreed to co-promote and co-invest in a greenfield refinery and hydrocarbon industrial park at the Lekki Energy City within the Lekki Free Zone.”

Ibirogba further described the transaction as a momentous ”land for equity” commercial transaction and a shared risk investment, which envisaged an investment package worth $25bn spread on 1500 hectares of land in the Energy City.

He also disclosed that the project would be implemented in four tranches over the next 10 years, commencing from next year.

In her remarks, the Special Adviser to the Governor on Commerce and Industry, Mrs. Olushola Oworu, said the planned development of the Lekki corridor by the state government under an integrated plan would include the deep sea port, proposed city airport as well as the greenfield refinery to be developed jointly with the NNPC and other private sector partners.

According to her, the LFZ will comprise the oil and gas zone, the manufacturing zone and tourism zone, which will have first class hotel and recreational facilities.

Oworu ”It is a multifaceted development of Lagos State we are aiming at. We also hope that with this joint venture, we will be able to create employment for our people, we will be able to bridge the gap between demand and supply of petroleum products in Nigeria and we will be able to eliminate importation of petroleum products in no distant future.”

Investment in the greenfield refinery and industrial park will include a 200 to 300KBPD refinery, an 800 Megawatt power plant, a three million metric tonne per annum fertiliser plant, as well as a 500 metric tonne per annum petrochemical complex, the statement.

It also said all investments would be structured on mutually beneficial and commercial terms amongst the parties to the agreement and anchored on consumer market demand driven by commercial viability.

”With South-West Nigeria accounting for over 40 per cent of national consumption of gasoline in Nigeria, location of a refinery within the nation‘s commercial nerve centre by the Lagos State Government and the NNPC is an expression of genuine commitment to meet the energy needs of not only the city but that of the South West region at large,” the statement said.

culled from punchng.com

SportsRe: Nigerian League Fan Thread: Enter D Place N Know Every by honeric01(mod): 11:16pm On Oct 22, 2010
^^^^^

I wish my team got the promotion ticket, imagine what this stadium would have added to the beauty of the NPL, see the useless crown fc won come qualify, dem no even get stadium angry angry angry angry angry angry angry
PoliticsRe: The Most Serious Issue to Face in 2012 - Referendum or Reform Conference by honeric01(m): 10:59pm On Oct 22, 2010
auwal87:
You should have asked how many warehouses we have full of groundnut, we are in the modern world, no one will leave his g-nut in the open air. Nevertheless, we can have the warehouses constructed in a pyramid shapes.
see my questions here bro:

I would like to know the major contributions of the northern states to the growth of this country, what exactly do the northern states add to Nigeria? (economically)

just tell us what you guys have contributed (major)
PoliticsRe: The Most Serious Issue to Face in 2012 - Referendum or Reform Conference by honeric01(m): 10:44pm On Oct 22, 2010
[quote author=Had_one link=topic=536334.msg6993683#msg6993683 date=1287762036][size=18pt]You keep confusing your self continuously, but you cant confuse me as well. But anyway let me give to you this piece of advice before quiting your way. If you want to quote from any person, you better quote directly from his words. Dont lie. Both members and guests in this[b] forum are not as blind as you are[/b]. They can read and clearly understand. I only claimed that "the heart of Nigeria's wealth is in Hausa land and mainly on agriculture, trade, mining, etc". If you want to prove that you really know what you are doing, you can possibly ask questions like "can you prove or convince us why you think the heart of Nigeria's wealth is in Hausa land? Then I can explain further. May words may likely convince you or somebody else. But i suggest that you should opt for a medicated glasses so that next time you can see well before quoting people wrong.[/size][/quote]You think typing words or saying something only ends with your own intention? don't you know other people reading what you wrote have the liberty to scrutinize your words letter by letter?
according to your words here : [quote author=Had_one link=topic=536334.msg6991108#msg6991108 date=1287739537]We just want to prove you guyz that the [size=15pt]heart [/size]of Nigeria's wealth is in Hausa land[/size][/quote]A heart stands for life in any living thing, hope you know that? undecided

[b]Maybe [/b]you do not know what heart stands for, a living thing without a heart will surely die off, now tell us, when the northern states secede being the heart (your words), what is likely to happen to the rest of Nigeria? undecided

you don't have to type 10000 words before you put your points across, if the north is the heart of Nigeria, leaving the rest of Nigeria is likely to cause what to Nigeria? undecided


you were doing well until you chose to toll the insult way, done with you. thanks for your time.
PoliticsRe: Why Has The World Forgotten Hiroshima & Nagasaki While The Remember Sept 11. by honeric01(m): 10:32pm On Oct 22, 2010
violent:
These are all links to explain the why and how America attacked Hiroshima and Nagasaki with Ariel atomic bombs, none of the links gave account of what happened at Pearl harbor and why Japan attacked America.


In other words, If i am having a fight with man A, and man A is friends with a huge well built man B, however, man B has remained neutral in our fights all along, you think it's justifiable for me to go to his house and kill all his kids just to keep him from influencing who wins the fight between man A and I?

and then man B became sooo angry, and he spent three years planning on how to get his pound of flesh, if he comes over and he wipes out the better half of my family, you think he's gone too far?


let me put it better, Just because Nigeria is an ally of Ghana, and Togo is at war with Ghana, do you suppose it's a right thing for Togo to send drones to military base in Kano just because they'd like to prevent Nigeria from helping Ghana? {i.e even though Nigeria has been neutral all along}

If Nigeria turns back and wipes out Togo, you feel Nigeria should be labelled a terrorist?. . .common, lets be reasonable!
Hehehehe, see analogy, that's what you were able to deduct from the whole article? holy moly mother of zeus grin

Pearl Harbor was specially set up facing Asia, were you expecting America to announce to the whole world why pearl harbor was set up in a strategic place adjacent to Asia? if you read through some of the links (that's if you even read any), you'd read where the "camp" was setup to influence the rifts between Japan and the rest of Asia, it was to aide those who America supported at that time which was a security threat to Japan (you won't understand what military intelligence is all about).
Why did Japan blow only the harbor and not the mainland US? why only pearl harbor and not other camps? have you bothered to ask yourself?

like i said, i don't want to bother disturbing myself trying to explain things to you since you are so bias towards America, just do the research yourself with a "NEUTRAL" mind.


[quote author=Βουκέφαλος link=topic=536737.msg6993770#msg6993770 date=1287762611]now i see that you dont even understand anything about the events of world war 2,
United states was not participating in the war UNTIL japan attacked pearl harbour, even churchill(British PM)couldnt convince the us president to Join the war until that pearl harbour attack,
So for japan to attack them they should have decalared war on the us before they try to use any military action, there are treaty commitments those days so you cant just stand up and attack any country you want, and if you dont  know too, Japan doesnt have armed forces anymore till this days because of that foo.lish  method they used, so they cant fight any war anymore till the kingdom comes[/quote]bro, get a mind of your own and stop jumping on the bandwagon, it does not make you more clever.

Can you please tell us why and where pearl harbor is located?

i don't want to continue in cycles with you, just do the research yourself, it won't make me more clever, rather it will make you more clever.
SportsRe: Eric Frimpong Targets Flying Eagles. by honeric01(mod): 9:00pm On Oct 22, 2010
^^^^^

Wetin? na him be the first person eh? grin
PoliticsRe: Why Has The World Forgotten Hiroshima & Nagasaki While The Remember Sept 11. by honeric01(m): 4:31pm On Oct 22, 2010
[quote author=Βουκέφαλος link=topic=536737.msg6993589#msg6993589 date=1287761323]If what you say is right, then why didnt Japan declare war on the US before they attacked?[/quote]Declare war in the middle of a war? undecided

anyways, bro, can't continue, gtg offline, maybe later, i will come and add more info.
PoliticsRe: Why Has The World Forgotten Hiroshima & Nagasaki While The Remember Sept 11. by honeric01(m): 4:25pm On Oct 22, 2010
[quote author=Βουκέφαλος link=topic=536737.msg6993536#msg6993536 date=1287760870]Thnaks jare,
 America NEVER wanted to fight ww2 they did not even wants to be involved at all and they tried to settle their problems with japan before the attack on pearl harbour, When the american generals noticed that japanese military were die hards, they had to choice but he force them to surrender by the bomb, it was a neccesarry step,


are u saying that americans were prepared to bomb japan with the atomic bomb before they  were attacked at pear harbour?? the bomb wasnt even made then and go and check your history well, The attack was intended as a preventive action in order to keep the U.S. Pacific Fleet from influencing the war that the Empire of Japan was planning in Southeast Asia, against Britain and the Netherlands, as well as the U.S. in the Philippines[/quote]Go and read from all these links i sent, few of them support the motion i raised about America wanting to use the atomic bomb on the Japanese people with or without them surrendering in the war.




one major reason Japan attacked pearl harbor (due to the information they heard as at then that America set up that camp to attack them).

The attack was intended as a preventive action in order to keep the U.S. Pacific Fleet from influencing the war that the Empire of Japan was planning in Southeast Asia, against Britain and the Netherlands, as well as the U.S. in the Philippines. The base was attacked by Japanese aircraft (a total of 353, in two waves) launched from six aircraft carriers.[7]

Four U.S. Navy battleships were sunk (two of which were raised and returned to service later in the war) and all of the four other battleships present were damaged. The Japanese also sank or damaged three cruisers, three destroyers, an anti-aircraft training ship[8] and one minelayer. 188 U.S. aircraft were destroyed, 2,402 personnel were killed[9] and 1,282 were wounded. The power station, shipyard, maintenance, and fuel and torpedo storage facilities, as well as the submarine piers and headquarters building (also home of the intelligence section) were not attacked.
PoliticsRe: Why Has The World Forgotten Hiroshima & Nagasaki While The Remember Sept 11. by honeric01(m): 4:19pm On Oct 22, 2010
PoliticsRe: Why Has The World Forgotten Hiroshima & Nagasaki While The Remember Sept 11. by honeric01(m): 4:14pm On Oct 22, 2010
violent:
I haven't heard anything as false since the idea that the earth was flat!

do you have any link to any website, blogs, history page, videos, podcast, books, that you use to confirm this story?
Trying to remember the name of the producer (the documentary), why i do that, help yourself

http://www.doug-long.com/

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