₦airaland Forum

Beaf:
You're aren't joking, are you? Your definitions are way off, but we both know what I'm talking about. Even in a semi-high brow area like Ilupeju, there are open sewers everywhere. We have no standards. We urgently need to start developing standards; that is the only way we can develop, otherwise we might as well move into zoo's.

man, you just too funny, sewer and drainage are different, let me help you out.

Sewer
sew·er [s ər]
(plural sew·ers)
noun
drain for waste: a large pipe or drain, usually underground, that carries away waste or rainwater


Drainage
noun
1.  draining process: the process of draining liquid from something

Based on these definitions, i won't be wrong to say sewers can be taken for Tunnels for large draining of waste water through underground means.

While drainage is what passes these waste waters to the sewage for final disposition.

clear?

Kobojunkie:
[size=13pt]Where did the @Poster get the 11million figure? What is the source of the information? [/size]

true

@labiyemmy (m)
 can you provide us with links to your claims?

Ahhh!!!! Ghana is surely out because USA and the Koreans are heavy weights in female football, watch out for 5 : 0 margins

Sagamite:
I am not condemning, I am just saying based on aesthetics and perception/reality of internal facilities, to Oyinbo that is a slum!

Especially an Oyinbo that works for BBC and is probably some privileged Oxbridge grad who grew up in a nice 4-bed cottage by the river in Salisbury that does not have a street number, just called "The Swan", Bulberry Avenue, Salisbury.

well, i understand, but posting such pix on this thread will further give some people rights to think Lagos house are like that without even making research on their own.

Beaf:
Stop being funny and check the definition of "slum" (with particular emphasis on amenities and services). Come back when you've done that.
Jumping anything to get home, puts you right bang in slum conditions.
What will we do next? Climb?

do you jump anything before getting into your house? i mean your house must be the worst house in the whole of Lagos.

Beaf:
I would actually say "open sewers", but I've got to stick with Nigerianisms.

still not right, open sewers is wrong, it's either gutter or drainage, gutter is almost as large and wide as canals but drainage is what we have in every streets, so go back and make your research because few houses would be found around gutters and sewers in Lagos.

Sagamite:
I know. It is just laziness and impatience for finding a pix as it was not quickly popping up.

Substitute with the one below but imagine the collapse building is not there (I know, still being lazy  ). That building to oyinbo is a slum!

To us, it is OK for the poor, not too bad.

https://www.nigeriansinamerica.com/content_images/police-building-collapse.jpg

if you checked that house you posted, you'd find out that the house must have been marked for demolition. please make research, we aren't animals in Lagos.

ziga:
I'm trying to understand your point.

I did not say that homes without these facilities do not exist.

But for you to agree that 11 million people live in homes like these is ridiculous.

you're quoting the wrong person, please check my post again.

thanks.

Beaf:
Just one example. . . If you or your maigaurd (or anybody else) has to hop across open gutter's; you live in a slum.

gutter? or drainage? which one are u talking about?

Sagamite:
GBAM!

To the average Oyinbo man this is a slum (or at best, at its boundary):

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/2187657698_1faa1ae9eb.jpg?v=0

To most of us, that is not a slum at all.

The expect a Nigerian to be living, on the average, a place like this:


For us, this is the type of place the average middle-class stays, not for poor people at all.

Most council estates (places where working class poor stay) in London, if people do not piss in lifts, is almost at the standard of Eric Moore towers and 1004 Towers (pre-refurbishment).

Geez, you are so out of touch about Lagos, that pix is a market and that other house you posted is a business building, those are the types used for office (one man biz) for cyber cafes and business centers.

ziga:
Well, from the stats we have here, the answer is less than 5 million.

The unfortunate 11 million get water from wells, S.hit in latrines and empty their waste into the streets.



I lived in Lagos most of my life, and this is a BIG lie.

But if they say we all live in slums, who are we to argue.

Our almighty masters have spoken, and we must all stay silent and shiver.

You live in Lagos yet you don't know what is going on around you, what a pity, i challenge you to go around this saturday after environmental, check the houses around you and see if they don't have wells, boreholes and sulk-away, then come back here and tell us your findings.

Any house with a sulk-away have WS toilets.

EloSela:
Hi OP

Can you provide an official link as evidence of what the BBC actually said please. I doubt they would make such a statement without having hardcore stats to back it up.


Out of all the houses in Lagos, how many actually have running water, a flushing toilet, good drainage system?  

80% IMO because in Lagos now, it's a crime not to have a sulk-away, WS, if any house is found not to have these, a warning of 3 months is given to them to provide these amenities or the house is closed down and locked, if you doubt me ask landlords of rented houses and they will tell you this.

frosbel:
I am not going to stroke anyone’s ego.

I lived in Lagos all my life and still love that city.

But it is a hard fact that large parts of Lagos, Ibadan, Aba etc are vast slums that we would not want even our enemies to live in.

Onitsha is the worst of them all. Onitsha is one big SLUM.

The sooner we start to sort out this mess instead of living in cuckoo land the better.

stop saying rubbish, you must have lived in Lagos in the 90s to be thinking like this, most Lagos citizens have wisen up, if your house is not okay enough, they won't rent it and the competition is getting stiff too, people are selling other people's houses to unknown people once they see your house is too wretched and weak, they automatically take you for a poor landlord so because of this, more landlords are upgrading their houses.

Yes, we have lot of not up to standard houses in Lagos, this i cant lie about, but to say 11million out of 18million live in slums is like saying 130 million Nigerians live in slums out of 140 million.

frosbel:
Good for the government.

Let them use this as an opportunity to address this issue.

Nigerians are too arrogant to accept reality.

This is reality.

And what is the reality? do you know the stats of housing in Brazil by just visiting for 2-5 months? where can you possibly cover in 2-5 months?

Dis Guy:
How did you come up with the figure yourself? 6-8 millions people, did you go about checking the houses.  .   .   .
lets see your book

exactly, i'll be very interested in the statistics and why these stats arent available to everyone in the first place anyway?

I said in my book because i live in Lagos and i know the kinda houses we have in Lagos in the mainland and the kind we have in the island and other places, i know where we have more of the population and where we have less residential places.

my stat is based on my own assertion.

My dict's definition :

slum [slum]
noun (plural slums)
poor area: an overcrowded area of a city in which the housing is typically [/b]in [b]very bad condition (often used in the plural)No


Now, what is your own definition? what is a very bad house like?

in my own words

A house without water, without good drainage, immobile, lack of proper ventilation, lack of privacy is a very bad conditional house. if this is what a slum means, then they might be right, but 11million people living in this kinda house in Lagos? i doubt that.

so let me break it down a little.

6-8million people live in the above described condition in my book.

4-6million people live in houses with water, good drainage, but around the above described condition.

that is 14million people already, so how did they come up with the 11million ratio of slum dwellers? did they go about checking the houses to know if they contain the basic needed appliances/materials of a standard house?

what is a slum in the first place? anyone with BBC's definition?

Nice job black revo, the Falconets will surely take this, japan and Mexico are nothing when it comes to female football.

July 24th would make it 9yrs since you left us, i want you to know that we're coping and trying to get established, your efforts were not wasted and we promise to make you proud wherever you are.

Dad, a great warrior you were and a great warrior we'd be for you and for ourselves.

How many times did he come to beg food from you?

@david and plat,
Una dey vex me big time, wetin be all these rubbish una dey type? Even in lagos, doctors have successfully operated on siame twin, kidney patient, kidney transplant, brain tumor e . T . C, what's more complex than these?
Abeg i dey cry and vex for here, make una no make me curse una this night, if u want to continue bashing anything nigerian, at least respect da grin by not flooding this thread with your series of memory verses. Da grin, God day, i just hope u made it to that heavenly place, life's short! God abeg na ur hand i dey, i take bike everyday frm egbeda to okota, God keep me pls.

Is an autospy already out?

Omg! So da grin's gone? Mole fenu shi pepsi is gone? I'm actually crying right now. What a wasted talent, another - to naija entertainment world.

Krayola:
haha. I'm predicting Ibra to sink Inter at the Nou camp.

nah, i don't want him to play, that guy is so unsettled, i prefer we use someone else, where's Ini when he's needed most.

maedan:
Lol @ "Baba Lahoooor!". Children of those days were very strong, to overcome all these thrashings . You can't beat the "kids" of today like dat oo . You boys sef were very troublesome .

Ah! children of our time were very stubborn with thick skin, i mean we always liked to try new things, especially the negative ones, i still remember asking my mom where babies come out from, she simply said from the stomach, i kept wondering how a baby is expected to come out from the stomach, went to class next day and started staring at my pregnant teacher, she noticed and decided to ask why i was staring at her big tummy, i simply said i was waiting to see if it was time for her baby to walk out of her stomach , it was so funny, she kept laughing and didn't even tell me the answer, it took me 4 more years to know where babies come out from.

he should concentrate on individual growth rather than seeking a contract at this time of his career.

Guys abeg, can we loan out Ibra? where is this other guy we loaned out of barca? the guy from Brazil, someone should remind me, he's in Portugal now i think.

tkb417:
see this man o
how Yoruba man dey behave?

skfa1:
The guy in white is IBO while the guy in blue is YORUBA.

gra-gra, run run.

tkb417:
sharrap, the guy u call a yoruba man speaks like a Ghanaian. i dont think hes Yoruba

the guy in white is an Igbo man in his thick accent. He has the potentials to beat the guy but oh lawd, hes just a ninny

see the way he fell down

rubbish peeps in another mans land.

C'mon, na Yoruba man to the core, you can see through his actions lol

Freiburger:
lol. what about the guy in whit can u tell us where he comes from?

That one is surely an [b]Igbo [/b]man, he was cooling down, he didn't want to waste his energy (too expensive to waste and it cost money, do u know how much hamburger cost? ), he was waiting for the right time to strike that butterfly of a guy.   https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil03.gif