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The Lord is a man of war: The Lord is his name (Exodus 15:3). The Aramic (Hebrew) word used for war in this quote is milkhawmaw meaning “battle, war.” Then if you go to Exodus 26:25, God says “I (God) will bring a sword (khehreb) upon you, , I will send pestilence (dehber “cattle disease”) among you; , ” However, in Exodus 20:13, God commands the children of Israel “thou shalt not kill.” Which contradicts Exodus 32:27-28 where God says “, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour, and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.” By using the word “fell,” they mean, “killed dead by God’s command.” So your God just order’s people he created killed. Not helped or changed, but turn’s men into killers, and other men killed. Think ,this is a good, loving, caring God, right?. Wrong. This is the Devil. The Bible is a book of the Devil doing all Kinds of evil as God.

jagunlabi:
The bible never claimed an age for planet earth,folks.This is just misperception of what is in the book.We need to be fair sometimes to that book while we continue to critique it.

So how can christians be sure that we are in 2009 if they dont even know the age of planet earth?

The white man (as he is known) was not part of the original creation. He represents the opposite of who and what we represent as a people so it is very important that you make that distinction or you will be confused. The Caucasians purpose is to destroy. This is seen in his actions throughout history, his philosophies, his religions, his food, his Medi SIN (medicine), his foreign policy and his society as a whole. His religion Christianity propagates the DEATH of the son of god rather than the teachings of the son of God. The symbol of Christianity is a CROSS an X an error a Mistake, a sword these are all one and the same. His hair texture is DEAD straight grows away from the sun and grows down, He has very little or no melanin to connect him to the realm of Gods,God.

According to Christians all of the  living creatures were brought into existence in the same initial creation week. (six days). This would include the Dinosaurs. Now can Christians tell me how can enormous animals like Dinosaurs, Mammoths, Tyrannosaurus etc , , who weighed more than thirty tons entered inside Noah's Ark.?

This creation of fear is about Money!.The concept of hell and a devil with a pitchfork standing in front of an open furnace, are all things put in your minds by religious leaders for their own personal gain. The more you believe in their concept of hell, the more frightened you become and the more you will pay for the religious leaders to forgive your sins and redeem your souls.

[quote author=Tùdor link=topic=30906.msg3903274#msg3903274 date=1242931796]I'm really perplexed by the way religious whatnots and christian apologists have stylishly avoided this thread.where are the likes of davidylan,noetic and the firing squad to come execute this topic. It just goes to show that people despite all the evidence,choose not to look beyond their noses. . . . .[/quote]They must be too busy now reading and re-reading their bible to find out if they can found any evidences or written records of Dinosaurs.

bawomolo:
jesoul - what OT laws do you abide by?

as i have said, the Christian God isn't the all powerful all knowing god if he doesn't have the capability to do evil.

This mean that this Christian god is also an evil-minded god.

Many Christian leaders think that after 2000 years they can just paint Jesus black and that is alright. No, it calls for more than that; it calls for an in-depth study and teaching on the life of Christ. After  these propaganda subliminal pictures of a white Jesus have been stamped in the minds of our children, we have to make this a full time effort to explain what Jesus looked like and we must all agree on one story and one picture. As it stands now whenever our children see a black picture or drawing of Christ they are forced to say, “look mommy a black Jesus.” That is because in their sub-conscious mind Jesus is white. It is the same as a black Santa Claus. The truth of the matter is that God doesn’t have a color he appears in. Yet, the Son of God does. Revelation 1:14-15 further describes Jesus’ hair texture which is like lamb’s wool as well as in 1 Corinthians 11:14 where it states that it is a shame for a man to have long hair. This goes to show you that the image of Jesus with long hair could not be the true image of the true Son of God, Jesus Christ.

davidylan:
Where have i heard this before? Oh yeah from hux, toneyb . . . and countless others who repeat the same mindless questions again and again and again regardless of how many times you respond to them.

Me too have i heard this before? NO ANSWER to the question again and again and again regardless of how many times you ask them an explanation about why your god is telling his "chosen" killers to kill  innocents babys,childrens,womans,elders, what kind of "god" is that?. If it is the way your "god" is showing his "love" I wonder what it will be when this same "god" will show his anger?. What is next?, a Genocide?

SeanT21:
We cant know the real truth. I do agree that we have been made to believe that Jesus is White.The point is I dont care and you shouldnt.Jesus color should not matter.

Often people are saying that Jesus color should not matter. Then if Jesus color should not matter why the caucasian all time make sure to presente to you a white Jesus?. This is the question that we have to ask ourselve. When people see an image of a white Jesus, nobody is saying that Jesus color should not matter. It is only when they see a picture of Jesus as a black man that people are starting to say Oh!!you know!!Jesus color should not matter!!!

davidylan:
Even if i told you . . . you'd still repeat the question tomorrow.

Why do you think that?. You should not have any particular opinion about me, I am not here to harm anybody, I just like to deal with Facts and Facts only.

I've taken the pains to go over many of the old testament commandments to kill entire tribes and the reason behind it.

So what is the reason behind all this evil killing of innocent people?.

See the above

The above is a confirmation that your "god" give order to kill and is himself a killer. What kind of god is that?. And again your are going to tell me that I biaised the words in your bible or that when your "god" ordered the killing of innocents babys it was out of "contex".

JeSoul:
I said the translation is not the best, doesn't that imply the translators could have done a better job? The fact still remains you chose to stretch and extend the verse beyond what is said[b] in context[/b].

I didnt changed the word evil and the verse, it is like it is in your bible,it is your own ego who decided that it was not in your context instead of dealind with the Fact that you still dont give us evidences and proofs that your "god" didnt create evil. And who allowed the existence of evil?

davidylan:
Behold "Ida" . . . the long awaited "transitional life form" to humans AKA the "missing link" . . .

I recognise this  fossil, nicknamed Christianus Religius it is claimed to be a "missing link" between today's higher Christians primates , monkeys, apes and humans  and more distant christians relatives.

How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?

Muslims say, “he (Allah) just said kun faya kuwn, exist and into existence it came.” He didn’t need a whole six days, he just said “kun.” In doing that they think they said something heavy. . . An all powerful intellect of all the universe does not have to say to himself kun faya kuwn, because obviously nobody else was there. He did that with four syllables? I don’t know if you understand what I’m trying to say. That’s not one statement. It also means that he was thinking in the Arabic language. That’s an Arabic statement and it was said how long ago? (Muslims say) six to ten thousand years ago. There was no Arabic then . . . It was called Ashuric.

[quote author=Blood_Shed link=topic=273867.msg3894386#msg3894386 date=1242815197]This is the same book that has talking donkeys for goodness sake. Its amazing when one girl here is talking about translations in Hebrew and rah rah rah. Do you think Israelis or Arabs care about what Africans have to say about their religion. Islam is for Arabs, Christianity/Judaism is for Israelis.

How can Africans go out of their way to embrace a religion and culture that has nothing to do with them and clearly doesnt respect them?[/quote]The religious endoctrination is one of the reason WHY no one has been able to really unite the Africans in any considerable numbers, and also WHY the people of African descent have not been able to make real progress toward freedom and equality (liberation).

duduspace:
Are you implying that all the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah participated in those crimes? is god so much lacking in precision that American laser guided munitions are more accurate in identifying their targets? can it be that scientists have surpassed god in this regard?

You are right, This "god" is lacking in precision, if Christian preachers claim that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of their homosexual acts, then why are there still homosexuals still alive today?, or did God fail to kill them?

JeSoul:
Au contraire, while the translation may not be the best the problem is YOU reading it out of context and choosing to stretch and extend its meaning beyond what is suggested in the verse. Anyone can make the bible say anything they want, all they have to do is read & quote it out of context.

Yourself here agree that the translation may not be the best,so why you dont blame the one who translated the bible?,you never answered this question. And yes anyone can make the bible say anything they want, including You.

Sarcasm thinly veiled as conversation/discussion. Sorry brotha, of such, I refuse to be a participant.

Just say that you cant answer his question about your bible, or maybe your bible is just a sarcastic "book"?

gozie joe:
hey fellow nairalanders! the conception that God is evil is as false as a false definition of God could be. the philosopher cum theologian, St. Anselm, described God as that greatest possible being who by his very essence cannot but be perfect, else something greater than he would exist. God is Love! the problems, vices and evil that exist in this world are not the creation of a God who is All-Good. we are free and moral beings, and our actions flow from this our freedom. as for the natural disasters, they result from disturbances in nature's order. lets think better!

Who created evil?. And who allowed the existence of evil?. Religions teach you how to think from their point of view. That's one of the African's problems. We always had someone else's point of view. . . Once you begin to think with a liberated mind, free of beliefs and falsehood, no one will be able to feed you lies and garbage. You will have learned to question everything. So again who created evil?. And who allowed the existence of evil?.Can you answer this 2 questions?.

JeSoul:
Nonsense.

  The word for evil in Hebrew "rah" can mean many things. Only the KJV translates the word to 'evil' in our english and its the only translation you conviniently used. Other translations use the more contextually appropriate word of 'disaster'.
 
I know you don't care to read it in context but here it means calamity, disaster or such as is demonstrated in the case of God destroying Sodom & Gomorrah and the plagues on Egypt and the great flood etc.
God creates disasters not 'evil'.

Dont blame me you should blame the one who translated your bible. Did I translated the bible?. If your pastor, preacher, teacher, minister, deacon or any other religious leader really cared, he would take time out to research the original language, rather than rely on poor translations.

Bastage:
Maybe the people who commit those atrocities should accept responsibility rather than blaming it on God all the time?

So who created evil??

Isaiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things".

Do you see that in Isaiah 45:7 your Christian"god" is telling you that he created evil. And you Christians are blaming every non-christians when your god created evil.

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"In the ancient legends of the Babylonians
there was "Oannes" called "Lord of the Waves".
He was amphibious, having the torso and head
of a man but upon his head was the head of a
fish with gaping mouth and draping downward
were the back of the fish, complete with scales
and tail.

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Notice in the comparison pictures above
that the ancient Priest of the Fish-God "Dagon"
is wearing a fish robe  with the Fish's
head being placed directly upon the priest's
own head.  The opened mouth of the fish looks
exactly as the "mitre" hat of the pope with
the mouth Opened. 
Not only does the pope wear this "Mitre" hat,
but so do the Cardinals on certain occasions
when they are dressed in their royal regalia.
The Mystery religion of ancient Babylon / Assyria,
was noted for the priestly class of "Dagon" in
much the same way that the "Mystery" religion of
Rome has copied it.

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The Christian God is also The Creator of evil. According to Isaiah 45:7 the Lord that you go to church and worship every Sunday created evil:

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things".

(Go and read it in your bible)

I'll keep on saying this - don't expect to understand the Bible when you're not born again.

Born again for what?,to be a sinner again?, to be a peadophile?,why so many of your pastors are peadophile??

Jonah 1:17: “Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.”

Matthew 12:40: “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, ”

If God prepared this whale specifically for Jonah (or Jonas), was it a whale that had been created in the beginning, and evolved through the ages? If so, then Jonah would not have been able to survive in its belly.

Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of night and day there are indeed signs for men of understanding. (3:190)

Muslims say, “he (Allah) just said kun faya kuwn, exist and into existence it came.” He didn’t need a whole six days, he just said “kun.” In doing that they think they said something heavy. . . An all powerful intellect of all the universe does not have to say to himself kun faya kuwn, because obviously nobody else was there. He did that with four syllables? I don’t know if you understand what I’m trying to say. That’s not one statement. It also means that he was thinking in the Arabic language. That’s an Arabic statement and it was said how long ago? (Muslims say) six to ten thousand years ago. There was no Arabic then . . . It was called Ashuric. You have to go to Genesis Chapter 10, verse 11 to find someone named Asshur.

Not only the police, I think anyone desiring to become President of Nigeria should have to undergo a psychiatric test before.

@Labosky

Just say you dont want or cant answer.
Enought with Hypocrisy now

The Arabs will never respect Black Africans and will continue to use their henchmen in Sudan and elsewhere to continue the extermination of Black Africans so they can depopulate the continent of Blacks and occupy it, as they have done in Northern Africa.

All of you here understand the question very well,so why dont you answer?
Are muslim woman brainwashed by Islam?
And dont try to found any excuse to avoid the question.