₦airaland Forum

Haa.something that all postgraduate students have on their laptops?
Something i install free almost every week?

If news bits are exhausted, why not tell me they need to install Microsoft Office and Antivirus??

deantimes:
According to Mr. Fayose, Nigerians will not measure his government on the basis of what his predecessors failed to do, but on what he did or failed to do between May 29, 2016 and May 29, 2019.

http://www.socialtimesng.com/2016/09/buhari-is-the-major-problem-of-nigeria-fayose/

Buhari will rather continue the blame game

lofty900:
how do you know the family is rich. I still maintain my stand on this issue

Whether I know the family is another issue.

I want you to know that a family that can afford to call a journalist and even pay to publish this info ain't poor one bit..not even average.. Read my lips..fucking rich

systemz:
U dey mind dem.
Religion doesn't allow us to think at all.
Its a pity.

SultanOfBrunei:
being good because of religion is hypocritical, just like being religious for the promised after-death benefits, just like giving 10% of ur money to a pastor in exchange for God's blessing.

let me tell you, if not for problems people have, if not for the fear of death and after-death, if not for the enticing promises of paradise after death, churches and mosques would be empty on sundays and fridays respectively.

I can be innovative and still be super religious like many persons in the US, UK and Japan.
Religion and Science aren't mutually exclusive events.

What you should say is religion should be personal.. Practise your religions without shoving it at my face or down my throat.

herald9:
Which morality?

Take a walk into the Nigerian prisons and tell me if the occupants are atheist...

Morality was never part of religion, they just hijacked it.

Call it hypocrisy or not,many persons would have gone into crime if not for religion.

A cliche statement is do me, I do you God nor go vex. . Christianity will not agree to it ,but some atheists and agnostic will do

DozieInc:
Christianity is about living and preaching Christ, just like an advert, you convince people with reasons why they should receive Christ

Personally I don't think so.you do not convince or coerce anybody
It works in some cases but in majority, the person who was coerced loses zeal and they stumble by the way

SultanOfBrunei:
hahahaha!
take a close look around you bro, and be sincere to urself. where is the morality you are talking about?

You're right to a small extent..

But you will agree with me ,some person are good simply because of religion.

I've heard people say..
That man maltreated me when I was a nobody.if not for God, I'd have repaid him ,now that I'm very rich

SultanOfBrunei:
our mates around the world are advancing technologically, inventing new stuffs, doing researches, making their environments and the world around them better.

we cant even keep our environs clean to get rid of mosquitoes here, we are praying and fasting waiting for a middle eastern deity to come down from the sky and remove malaria.

Religion might not ensue scientific growth growth etc
But I can assure you, there is much to wish for apart from science.

The morality which religion brings is more than enough to be grateful for.

Im sure you didn't know the great Einstein made this quote.

These days, it has become a routine without real meaning.
If not, i wonder why a preacher will persuade anybody to be born again. It is a very solemn decision that needs full awareness and not persuasion.

project8:
and there is recession bact home

If you can afford to buy iPhone 7 then your destiny is intact

lofty900:
African mentality is a disease. Probably because she's not sending home enough dollars, now they're trying to use lesbianism as an excuse. If the girl have been sending thousands of dollars every year for the family upkeep, will they reject the money? Will they say she's no longer their daughter for being a lesbian? The answer is a big NO

Do you know what being a sociopath mean? I mean no insult..please check it up.

If you haven't lost your conscience,I wonder why you will take this stand..

BTW, that family is fucking rich and don't need her italian euro. Being an ashawo has little to do with poverty

lirusehn:
The doom .

God is with you.
Go and be a strong man no more.you're healed

We have been scammed.
Exactly what happened in 1984 is being repeated.

This government isn't even upto 2years.
By the time they're through, Nigeria go hear ween.....

nelszx:
The bolded is not true, questions are asked before tests are carried out so if a patient lies on coming the result will reveal everything. The reason glucose estimation has other parts.

Did you read when I said ,"In a hospital setting" ?

In an organised hospital setting,the labsci doesn't see the patient ..he only sees the sample except the test require physical presence

Even in cases where the patient is seen, there is little need to ask the patient questions except questions that will ensure proper results eg hope you didn't eat this morning.for FBS
Remember that in hospitals the patient does not come with complains to the labscientist.he only comes with a lab request form filled by a doctor.
The labsci will be wrong to interpret the results to the patient.without a full history.

samwise99:
AM INTO THIS argument with u b/c of that word 'OWN'
IF U want us to refrain from it,that means u agree with me that NOT ONLY the medical doctor owns the patients.

COMING TO WHERE U WANT TO RUN TO..."having the final say"
yeah medical doctor can have the final say which he will do with the help of other health professionals as u stated above.

Somebody else mentioned the word "own" not me.
What I understand by "own" is having full responsibility or having the most responsibility.

We are cool tho..thanks for the time

samwise99:
If my example is flawed
*why then do the medical doctors work collaboratively with the healthcare team.

*Why do they get help for the patient through other allied medical staff. As u stated earlier.

IT's simply because other allied medical staff & the medical doctor owns the patient.

Okay both of us refrain from using the word "own".its kinda demeaning.

Back to the subject.

In the hospital, it is only if the doctor tells the medlab guy to conduct a test that it will be done,
Only if he prescribes a drug will the pharmacist dispense or modify.
Only if he recommends an xray or ct will the radiotherapist carry it out.
Only if a doctors tells a stroke patient to go for physiotherapy can he/ She go.

You know the funny thing, after all these procedures ,a doctor have to look through the results and modify or recommend extras.

That is why after a test the doctor will be the one to interpret the result for that patient.
Everybody reports back to the doctor in most cases.

Its not like the medlab guy cannot interpret o.he can.
But as far that patient is concerned, only the doctor has the patients history and can make final judgement

Let me use an example.
A man goes to the lab scientist for a blood sugar test, and the result is very high.
The lab scientist may assume it is a problem, but the doctor knows it is okay because he has the patients history ,and that patient just ate a good dose of Eba 30 mins ago

You will only disagree with my points if you havent been in a big hospital in Nigeria or abroad,where everybody knows their role

samwise99:
Then who owns you?
A. Your father
B. Your mother
C. Both

if u can answer that,u will now know that ur answer to that question is wrong.

Your example is flawed my good friend.

In the hospital as it is , everybody contributes to patient care with different levels of responsibility.

The medical doctor works collaboratively with the healthcare team to provide optimal care to the patient meaning he gets help for the patient through the other allied medical staffs .
The doctor isn't referred to , as the head of the health team for nothing

GenBuhari:
shame HIV is a scam

Goto the hospital for volunteer work and see for yourself.and while you're at it, visit yaba, uselu or aro for evaluation.

drnairalov:
this ur story gey as e be. Aids is deadly yes. but it doesnt kill like thay if they are on AR drugs cmon!

If you are on ART on stage 4 AIDS,you will still die within months.
Unfortunately Nigerians don't presents till stage 3 or 4.

ART only prolongs life for a while after which the patient will still succumb to the complications.
The drugs have terrible side effects too.

Either condoms or abstinence is important

ise82:
Honest with what?? Car is bad? If u don't want to buy. Pls. You don't nid to send any message. I sell most of my cars without problems.

Why are you evasive sir?

I wonder why you shouldn't just just post the pics to clear doubts

byna:
Hello Guys,

I keep on being told that I should switch off the AC esp while entering a pool of water. Has anyone and idea why? Or have you experienced a fault after leaving it on?

I read automobile Eng and so far I haven't read any theoretical backup to this assertion.

Do you have any clue?

Except your car has been kazeemised and wires and components are flying everywhere, I don't see the need to .

I've never seen that recommendation in the US even during flooding..

SIRTee15:
no 7 isn't correct, it's the Indians.....

You're right bros..
Nigerians are soooo much there tho.

DABMarkNig2019:
I ask a simple question, just say the answer to yourself.

The doctors are doing the very best they can .The pharmacists scope is far less than then the doctors so they have far less to accomplish except drug manufacturing which is zero for them.

I bet you, a US trained doc cannot work comfortably here

DABMarkNig2019:
not on human body but on aliens and plants abi? If only you know the science of drug formulation and delivery you wouldn't be here appealing to the human mind. To a Nigerian doctor all a pharmacist can do is dispense and formulate drugs and the ripple effect is what our health care system is today. patients don't travel to India for medical help because of pharmacists but the doctors. pharmacists are advancing their scope of practice to render better services to the patients, don't you think doctors should do same to their practice instead of fighting and antagonising every effort of the pharmacists?

I do not have time to fully culture your ignorance.

First of all ,before the pharm d program pharmacists major role was drug manufacturing, dispensing and control.

People undergo medical tourism for various reasons the doctor being the least excuse. Let me fill you up on various reasons.

1. First, medical record keeping is poor because of understaffing and you queue for hours before getting care. Why then won't you go abroad?

2. Because of our economic downturn (eg exchange rate), cost of a procedure is far more expensive than it is abroad.why won't you rather go?

3. There are few machines available for doctors and pathologists to make diagnosis. Hence we might not diagnose the correct conditions. it the doctor's fault ?

4. The few places that have the machines are overwhelmed hence the wait time is high and their breakdown rate is high.is that the doctor's fault?

5. Nigerians do not present early to hospital.they prefer herbal and self medication.. When the condition is critical ,they present to hospital when its too late.
They are then told there is no facility for handling end stage condition. Is that also the doctor's fault or the patient?

6. Specialists are few in Nigeria assuming you need a procedure eg a laminectomy and the neurosurgeon has a list of 40 emergency cases before your turn, will you not go abroad?
Do you know that 3 neurosurgeons serve delta,edo and environs alone + (God bless Drs Udoh,Azeez and Obeta,selfless men)

7 Do you even know that Nigerian trained doctors are the majority of non American specialists in the US?
Just go and watch the movie Concussion .

I can go in and on but your hate will not allow you proper assimilation of my points.

moscobabs:
such questions is annoy but Siena leaving Nairaland is a great loss to Nairaland car owners o. pls do u have his website or any of his contact?

I wish I had it.
I joined Nairaland in 2006 just to say thank you to siena.of course with another id

moscobabs:
bro I beg sey na true say Siena left Nairaland?

Of course, Because of stuffs like.
Hello my car is overheating and my radiator water level is down.should I add water or leave it like that?


This thread is just another of those nonsense

DABMarkNig2019:
and who owns the patient?

The person that takes the highest blame when anything goes wrong,the person that authorized the admission of the patient, the person that finally signs and verifies a patient as dead

Own is a strong word tho.not appropriate ,but you understand my point

Sylvarresta:
Because you never left your home town, stop making fool of yourself, we have D.MLS in USA and some other developed countries

Let me add to that..
The D.MLS is a postgraduate doctoral degree which can be gotten after msc..
You are making it seem like it's a first degree like Pharm D

DABMarkNig2019:
But can't a pharmacist diagnosed and treat diseases too? You may have a better knowledge of diagnosing some diseases than the pharmacists but he gat a more superior knowledge of pharmacology and therapeutics than you. That's why you work together as a team. No single sets of professionals can work successfully alone in the care of their patients except the Nigerian kind of physicians who knows it all. That's the reason why our hospitals are "mere consulting clinics"

There is a limit to what a pharmacist can diagnose. Common illnesses can be diagnosed by them.

It is agreed they have a wider base of info concerning drugs especially manufacturing and dispensing.but not as it affects the human body.doctors have the edge here.
Working together is key tho,

modath:
This country can never be great until the problem in red is solved, no true great /prosperous nation relies solely on importation of virtually every commodity....

We can't be putting our heads in the sand pretending like we don't know the cause of the problem... oil price has tanked, the reserves ( to defend the naira) almost at critical level, but we insist things should remain the same..we can't continue to be merry in austere times, something just gotta give, no two ways out..

It's simple economics and logic, demand and supply are at variance, pricing will definitely reflect it.. chikena.

Our biggest volume of import comes from petroleum products. Hence,if our clueless government want to solve import problem without fixing our refineries, they're worse than hypocrites.

optometrists have always been called doctors as well. NMA doesn't give sh1it about pharm d and titles

They only want a distinction between a Medical Doctor and a Pharm D graduate because majority of Nigerians are gullible and will see someone bearing Dr, and assume falsely they are licensed to diagnose and treat diseases.

Its official.our mods have gone crazy.

I mean,which car driver doesn't know that the steering can sometimes lock and you can also unlock by turning the steering back and forth while trying the ignition too?

For God's sake this is what I knew in jss1. Simply by observing.

You see why siena left?? .they were dulling his intellect.

I cannot believe a Car Talk mod will do this. They are way too smart for this