₦airaland Forum

DelTel:
You can't contest against Buruji and not spend o .

Perhaps he will continue to give Tinubu what Amosun was giving him then .

Amosun failed by not carrying Ogun stakeholders along right from day 1 of his regime, he sidelined everyone. He believed his closeness to Buhari family will make him get anything he wants. He reportedly doesnt have any regard for the VP.

Ajimobi is also close to the President and reportedly wanted Tegbe to succeed him but changed his support to Adelabu when ibadan/Oyo leaders 'pleaded' with him (Otudeko, top Ibadan/Oyo Bloc, Akala and shittu gang-up against him could've rendered Ajimobi powerless).

Politics is winning some, losing some; listening to the people and elders where applicable/necessary.

You are very correct and i agree with u...to say d truth, gomina wa ni agidi...he is very stubborn...maybe it's because he's an Owu man sha...

It is well jare...may God give us someone whose reign will benefit us all.

DelTel:
Unfortunately, political situation often gives us bitter pills to swallow.

Meanwhile, I strongly believe & hope Dapo Abiodun will be his own man and won't take directive hook, line & sinker from anyone but work for the people not cabal/god-father.

I also remember Amosun tried copying some silly lagos reforms but some omoluabi stopped him (big thanks to former AG Ogunde who stood his ground, told him bluntly it's not possible in Ogun State & resigned).

Btw Dapo Abiodun seems to have been a top contenders all along (I remember his name including Okupe, Dina way back 2003) and should have some good plan for the state especially as he is quite successful in his private biz - Heyden.

And u think Tinubu won't want something in return for supporting him? He always wants something in return...go to all d States where he has people in-charge...he's like Satan; he doesn't give u something without wanting something big in return...he's bn eyeing Ogun for ages..he sent Yayi but he couldn't deliver.

I hope y'all are right about this Dapo guy...he spent money like there is no tomorrow during his last shot for at d Ogun East Sen ticket...he's going to spend massively again...plus if all d past and present Govs run their various States like they run their businesses, most cities will be competing with Dubai by now.

gurunlocker:
Lol... isn't God wonderful?

I am telling u...and he's there fighting Okorocha and Amosun's imposition ...hypocrite!!!


And he will be expecting those aggrieved Governors to align with d party leadership.

DelTel:
Sir, you got the calculation well (but only added 2 unknown divisions to come to a wrong conclusion ).

Ijebu/Remo division 12years; Egba/Yewa division 13yrs.

So, using the above premise, it's ijebu/Remo division turn to produce the governor while egba/yewa division will produce after the incoming Ijebu/Remo governor and we expect all hands to be on deck to have a Yewa indigene all things being equal, hoping the Egba will agree.

Also, it will be foolhardy of any political block to allow an 'opponent' produce majority of the Assembly men (na impeachment loading).

Sir, you will agree Amosun produced all political appointments in 2015 from top to bottom with consulting; if he doesn't 2019, no qualms. OGD did same in 2007 but couldn't get even a seat in 2011. Amosun is even getting 2 Senate & 4 Reps, count him lucky. Ogun State is destined never to be a one-man state.

Tinubu helped Amosun greatly to getting the APC ticket and winning very effortlessly since the then ruling State & Federal PDP/PPN were in disarray.

You and this ur calculation sha... It is well


But d way we are going, we will end having an outsider lording it over us in Ogun...just be ready for a new tax regime in Ogun...be ready for Tinubu's Alpha Beta ...go and figure out what this company has done to d people of Osun...Even Fayemi had to ditch it after some time in his 1st term.

Que sera sera...i hope we make d right decision as a people...i love my State, but love my people more......Yewaland is yearning for infrastructural development, which she is lacking seriously...I know that we will one day be liberated from all these political Maradonas.

DelTel:
I quite appreciate your position (coincidentally that was my thought too until I was made to see otherwise).

The Constitution expressly dictates 3 senatorial district for every state of Nigeria, recall I stated Divisions not senatorial districts and only 2 exists in old Ogun. Senatorial district were drawn up mostly by geography.

Moreso, the Remo are not Ijebu or are quick to say they are not ijebu but ijebu supported them to get the position thru OGD.

Another question is why was egba allowed to have 2 shots at Oke-Mosan (Osoba & Amosun) without any for yewa if yewa is a bloc.

In all, Amosun didn't handle the situation well by unilaterally picking candidates without input from stakeholders. Now, he is not willing to relinquish any position. The other faction has conceded positions to his faction - 2 Senate & 7 HoR - but he is not willing to concede any, just like Okorocha.

I understand ur positon...now let's do some calculation...

We've had Gov elections 7 times in our history as a State...

1st-Ijebu-Bisi Onabanjo (someone whom some key Yewa men stepped down for back then)
2nd-Egba-Osoba (who spent a year)
3rd-Egba-Osoba
4th&5th- Remo-OGD
6th & 7th-Egba-Amosun


Ijebu 4 years

Remo- 8 years

Egba- 13 years

Yewa- 00000


Now let's say this argument that only "2 divisions in old Ogun" holds water...in d spirit of fairness...then shouldn't d Yewas be allowed to produce Gov even if it is for just a term?

Now to d issue of Amosun, he didn't handle the situation well at all like u said...but u don't use illegality to correct a perceived illegality (i can confirm to u that there was no Guber primaries that produced Dapo Abiiodun on that said date in Ogun, d ticket was just a Greek gift to him)...and trust me, these illegalities perpetrated across d country by APC will come back to haunt them at d polls.

Now u stole a Governorship ticket from a sitting Gov and in d other primaries, most of his men won...u now offered him 10 HoAs (those 10, their names are even bn substituted as we speak)...2 Senatorial tickets...as for HoR, he was offered 4 HoR, and not 7 like u said (they even removed d Speaker's name)...d thing is that, Amosun has seen thru them and was aware of their games (albeit a little bit too late)...their intention was to leave him naked at d last minute...I also told some people and i advised them to have a plan B...their intention was to remove all Amosun's men and even Amosun's name himself at d last minute.

Tinubu and his cronies has bn out for blood since Amosun chased Yayi (someone i can swear is not a Yewa)back to Lagos.

DelTel:
Both are politicians to start with.

However, Tinubu is different from Amosun in this particular instance cos Tinubu sacrificed his senatorial seat for GOS in 2003 whereas Amosun is still insisting on going back to the Senate in 2019 denying Tejuoso who has helped the party in the Senate and refused to decamp.

Also, Time & Chance is very important in life, Amosun failed to realize this and went on air to reel out list of candidates without (either direct or indirect) primaries against INEC & party directive. INEC wouldn't have accepted the candidates after all.

Then the issue of zoning (thou not written) is a major factor, words on the street is that there are 2 divisions in Ogun State - Egba & Ijebu. These 2 divisions rotate the gov seat (from ijebu's Onabanjo to egba's Osoba, ijebu/remo's Daniel to egba's Amosun); so power should go back to ijebu not Egba/yewa Amosun is springing up. The marginalization of yewa should be corrected by egba when it is their turn in another 8yrs.

Also, Amosun was imposed by Tinubu on other party stakeholders & candidates 8yrs ago in same manner. In 2011 when the merger btw ACN & CPC failed, Tinubu imposed Amosun against Osoba's chioce thou Amosun wasn't in ACN but in CPC with Buhari. The other contestants like Obadara, Soyinka etc cried blue murder but Tinubu insisted knowing only Amosun could give PDP a good fight. Luckily PDP had serious internal issues (Daniels, Buruji factions).
Forward to 2015, Amosun wrote all the candidates list for 2015 from Senate to HoR to minister to everything without consulting other party stakeholders including the VP, using his closeness to Buhari & presidency. 2019 is different, Osoba & his supporters are back in the party and must have input.

Luckily for APC, the main opposition is in disarray too. So they all know the battle for Oke-Mosan is inside the party.

Meanwhile, Ogun State has always been like this, remember Daniels wasn't allowed to choose his party's candidate hence he decamped to PPN.


P:S. I don't support either parties or camp or Tinubu but just to provide some clarifications.

It is when people want to be mischievous and perpetrate evil that they fuse Egba and Yewa together...if Egba and Yewa are d same, why were they not fused together as a Senatorial District?

PaChukwudi44:
How exactly is Amosun different from Tinubu?

My question exactly....even Oshiomole did d same thing with Obaseki and still doing it in Edo state...hypocrites everywhere

ntyce:
How does he campaign for himself and Buhari without indirectly campaigning for Dapo?
Nigerians vote for party and not individuals.....that's what Dapo will bank on.
Even if he should win his Senate seat, he will not be recognized as a leader again.
He should have appealed for a Ministerial slot for Akinlade.

Have u forgotten that Amosun and Buhari's election comes 1st...a week earlier than Dapo's...so he has all d time to wreck Dapo's chances within a week....that is if Amosun doesn't leave d party before then...because according to information in circulation...Oshiomole has substituted d names of d few of Amosun's men that won d party's House of Assembly primaries.

Though Amosun might not have his way eventually, but i assure that APC is doomed to fail in Ogun State....go and write it down...is only in Lagos State that a sitting Gov of d same party can be rubbished and his party still manages to win...no other place.

ntyce:
Majority of the stakeholders in Lagos supported Sanwoolu, Ambode was just a lone warrior.
However in Ogun, Amosun wanted to be an Emperor when he wasn't ripe yet.
He wasn't just smart enough for the game.
There are a thousand and one ways he could have made Akinlade the candidate without much wahala.

He felt too big to negotiate with the other factions....
If PMB should win next year, he will end up like OGD.

LOL

But the NWC members that were sent to Lagos initially distanced themselves from d primary election organised by d State exco...claiming they were not on ground and didn't supervise d primaries...only for Oshiomole to come out after a meeting with Buhari and declare Sanwo d winner.

See, i am not opposed to someone coming to instill discipline into a party...but what i frown at is when u are bias and inconsistent in dishing it out...tell me where APC didn't perpetrate fraud...is it Bauchi...is it Oyo...it even Edo.

D thing is that Oshiomole is not there to instill any discipline ...if he was, he won't have forced his own successor against d will of most of his party-men in Edo.

Whether he ends up like OGD or lies in d belly of time...u are not God and can't say for sure what will happen.

What if he wins Ogun Central or more...anything is possible...that's why we are not God.

Saintp:
When there are different rules and standards for different people, conflict is sure to occur.

Look at anti corruption, different standard for different people.
Everywhere you look at in this country, the rules and standards are different depending on who is involved.

For proper development to take place in Nigeria, there must be one rule and standard for all

You are correct...but was d same rule used in declaring Sanwo-Olu as winner in Lagos? The same thing that played out in Lagos guber primaries, played out in Ogun State...so why were d outcomes different?

Baba don vex down ooo...


Owu people are very vindictive...u don't treat an Owu man anyhow and not reap d fruit..I knew Amosun will stay put in APC and destroy d party from inside...left to me, no matter how wrong these incumbent Govs were, u can't treat them with disrespect and expect not to get a fight back from them.

I have witnessed lots of primaries since d inception of democracy in Nigeria...and i must confess that APC's is d worst of them all...they just scammed people all around...u collected loads of cash from people and then u rigged them out..a certain Bauchi Sen Dist primaries is a vivid example.

Oshiomole is just not fit to lead a political party..even d APC women in Edo protested against his leadership yesterday.

Yankee101:
No be Oshio baba dey so like Emperor? Telling a widow to go and die

Don't mind d mumu...he is such an hypocrite...to think that dis same man anointed and imposed his own successor, Obasaki, on his party in Edo State is sickening...he is simply playing to d gallery. Let's see as APC goes down d drain in those States without d Govs bn on board with d party.

MorbidAngel7:
As An Incumbent His Annointed Candidate Stands A Better Chance

If incumbents' anointed candidates stand a better chance...why do parties then choose to go against these incumbents? Except these incumbent gives in and support all these candidates... It leads to only one thing; defeats in such States...if APC thinks they can win Ogun and Imo States without pacifying those 2 Govs, they have just activated d self-destruct bottom in those States.

MorbidAngel7:
Hahaha..Saw This Coming..Its A Good Thing Osho Stopped Him..B4 U Know It Outgoing Governors Will Start Annoiting Domestic House Helps To Succeed Them

My question is this...didn't Oshiomole anoint his own successor?

It's one thing to anoint a successor...it's another thing for d anointed to be voted in by d electorates.

APC just lost another State they never really had a chance of retaining before...Tinubu is tying to cut to size those that could potentially stand in his way of becoming President in 2023...though i respect d man, it will be a huge surprise if he emerges APC's candidate not to talk of becoming a President.

i knew it...i didn't expect to see Oshoala, Desire and Ordega in camp at dis time...they are always d last set of players to hit camp...Awon big girls...make una just make sure sey una defend d title o...

diebuhari1:
What job does he do?
What business does he run?
Corrupt Ooni.

lol


He was a multi-billion before he became Ooni...in fact, he was and still into Real Estate.

dyydxx:
chairman you don dey change tone small small

Dapo ni joor....no shaking

Guy!!! Are u a monitoring spirit?


But on a more serious note...I still stand by my people to produce d next Gov of Ogun State...if dat fails, i will settle for anyone but Dimeji Bankole and Dapo Abiodun...though it won't change anything...but for what it's worth, i detest that Dapo guy with passion...because to me, he's come to scuttle our chance...guy, you need to visit Yewaland and see how backward and underdeveloped d whole place is...only then will u understand my pain...and with what i have noticed, nobody can develop d place like a true son of d soil.

As it is now...only God knows where d pendulum will swing in 2019...except maybe if d 2 factions in Ogun APC can reach a compromise....GNI would have bn d benefactor of all these divisions, but funds will most likely let him down...but at d end of d day, we are not God who knows d end 4rm d beginning.

May d best man win...hopefully an Ogun West person or a core Ijebu man.

TheBeat:
We need Ndidi and Nwakali

Ndidi is suspended for the next game

ACHILLES45:
Those that have one wife face plenty wahala and this man took 2 at the same time.
I've never heard of a peaceful polygamous home.
who has?

I think i know one...Oba Adedapo Adewale Tejuoso is the Osile of Oke Ona Egbaland

sanpipita:
Amosun will choke slam oshiomhole on that day. can't wait.

As in ehn...is it only Amosun? There is Yari, Akeredolu, Okorocha and others who are still keeping mum for now...i learnt they are 15 in no.

Imagine d arrogant dwarf sitting down in Abuja and deciding who will represent people in their locality...as if he's d one that will come and mobilise for them...his sponsors will soon push him down d cliff... he highhandedly picked his own stooge in Edo and now wants to deprive his former colleagues of same...dem go teach am lesson...after everything, na Buhari i pity.

IamAtikulate:
Amosun is an institution of his own. He is not loyal to Tinubu's establishment and won't want them near his state.

APC would either accept his candidate or he decamps.

Don't mind them. they think Amosun is Ambode that they will just be kicking around...this one na confirmed Owu man.

IamAtikulate:
Fraternizing in front of the press? Wake up. Amosun is sending a message.

You are so on point

I keep telling people that d Amosun i know won't go down without a fight...he's a born fighter...he's stubborn and pursues whatever he believes in no matter what it takes.

He prefers that APC loses d State than for d likes Osoba to lord it over him.

dyydxx:
Lol....I've read this story sef but the migration get as e be..it is well

https://punchng.com/yayi-not-a-foreigner-say-isaga-descendants/

It is well o my bro...

I just pity those who fight and die for these people...

dyydxx:
But which one did Chief Derin Adebiyi conduct? the one that had Akinlade winning by landslide in every ward....abeg bros leave matter. Both of them are scams the only thing is that they are showing is that power pass power. Osoba has already said he will not respond to his antics. Tinubu is silent. Amosun cannot have his way that is just the truth. He is too greedy. You can't be forming Emperor, kolewerk mo.

On Yayi, His father is from yewa south and the mom central. I'm not really conversant on those issues but I find it very hard to believe that the man can be scamming people that he is from Yewa when he is not especially as Yewa elders embraced him.

That's what money can do...do you know how much he spent on buying people only? I know a lot of people think and believe he's a Yewa man...but trust me bro...i can bet anything on it...Adeola Olamillekan is not 4rm Shaga in Yewa South.

lenghtinny:
Abeggi

Amosun only took him to Obasanjo who was the then president used his office to rig pdp into offices in the southwest...

Amosun was just a known Obj boy back then... If their is anyone that deserves the credit for OGD's emergence, it should be OBJ not Amosun...
Politically speaking, Daniel is way intelligent than Amosun... Even you can take that to the bank...

Pls give me 3 reasons why u think OGD is way more politically intelligent than Amosun?

dyydxx:
oga stop saying what you don't know. Amosun boycotted the nWC primaries and did his own a day before after his unilateral declaration of consensus was rejected by the national secretariat. which primary did Akinlade win? it was all a sham. Infact, Amosun was beaten at his game.

Even at that he was accommodated at the senate level with him and Odebiyi and Mustapha all allowed to get the slots. But the greed that will kill him won't let him rest and he will destroy Ogun west agenda with him

On Yayi, is yayi not Ogun West? anyway OGD was right.

Maybe d NWC primaries were conducted inside Osoba's living room...I am a Yewa man, in Ogun West...i spoke with people and they confirmed primary materials didn't even make it to many appointed places not to talk of people lining up to vote...and in Ogun Central, especially Abeokuta North and South...nothing happened...so how did he win with over 100k votes?

As for Yayi, when he to claim Ogun West...he initially claimed to hail from a certain place called Shaga Orile which unknown to him fell in Ogun Central...only to come back to claim Shaga that is within Yewa South...when his father died...where was he buried?

We know how these things work...he had lots of money to buy people and it worked...we Yewas know ourselves.

forgiveness:
Amosun is finished in Ogun state. He is capable of doing nada. Afterall, na Tinubu and Osoba made him governor after begging like a beggar he is. Sorry.

Osoba is nothing in Ogun politics without Tinubu who has hijacked d APC NWC at d National Level.

Osoba that couldn't come back for his own 2nd term...he even was unable to return his own son when he and his cronies left APC in 2015...and he made Amosun Gov? really?

Whatever gives u joy bro.

knowhowk:
Dapo Abiodun won ,where did he win? From which Primary Elections ,The one Conducted in Ogun state or the one Conducted by NWC

And they expect people to fold their arms and allow d outcome of such an outragous primary to stand? It's all good for my people sha...they've just paid way for our man...GNI