HardMirror:
exactly I am always talking about christianity because people need to speak up about this fraud of a religion

Speak up? You are really really funny?
You arent even afraid?

A system that has survived thousands of years, a system that has walked through fire, persecution, death, rejection and still come out of it unscathed? If you can't read history, at least let history read you.

You sit down behind the keyboard and talk about speaking up against the church?

You can't go house to house arresting them?, accusing them, jailing them, or destroying them? That's laziness Bro. You won't understand what you are trying to be against when you just sit under AC with chicken in your hand typing "speak up" on NL while sipping juice.

Internet has given you home o. Enjoy it while it last.

Myer:


I understand that the new life and walking in spirit are often used interchangeably but my argument is that any convert into any other religion also experiences a new life.

The phrase walking in spirit is more exclusive to Christianity as the believer is meant to have the Holyspirit as his helper in the new life.

Good morning sire.

Okay. I don agree.

You didn't respond to my last paragraph.

It's hightime you start holding your fort for Jesus. What do you think.

Comedian2019:

The pastor is definitely trying to arrogate to himself, powers that he has no right to. It's very important that people don't allow themselves to be mentally enslaved by such ignorant, so-called pastors.

He has the right Sir. If it is a church, the scriptures give him the right.

Comedian2019:

Your association with anybody, regardless of where he worships is absolutely a private matter. It's non of his business. Except things that has to do with activities in that church.
If you allow any man to enslave you for his selfish interest, you would realize it later in life that you've cheated yourself.
A serious pastor will concern himself with worship and spiritual things, not private affairs.
The bible does not empower any pastor to decide for you who to invite as friends that worship together with you.

I am not sure you understand what you just wrote. When you see most things as manipulative, you end up hurting yourself more. I am not sure you know the circumstances of church leadership beyond feeling being manipulated.

The greatest protection you can have in church gathering is from a sincere Pastor who follows every activities and relationship that goes on in that church. The church is a public place and everyone is welcome. Don't put yourself in harms way or be a source of derailing another man's work in the name of freedom.

Most times, the information the pastor has about members, no member has 1% of it. Such information is to be used to protect and help you.

I am sure you won't practice what you wrote up there if given such opportunity.

Know this know peace.

Myer:


Are you saying that the bible makes no promises that differentiates a Christian from others?

Cos I'm simply stating what the bible teaches.

You aren't ready my response Bro. Your comment suggest so.

I have told you 3 times now that what you are saying about God's spirit is same as all I have said earlier. The term "receiving of the spirit" is used interchangeably with newness, life, baptism etc in the Bible.

E. G when you see
Walk in the newness of life (Rom 6:4). It's not a different walk from saying, walk in the spirit (Gal 5:16). It's the same phrase put in different ways.

You are the one trying to pull out something from this.


By the way, what's still holding you back in holding your fort for Jesus. Don't you think it's hightime.

LordReed:


It is good to hope. Just make sure your hope isn't taken advantage of and turned into a bedrock for scams.

I will rather take the scam for and from you to have you in this same chain as I am than have the glory of this world. You are central to God's will. Know this, know peace.

Myer:


Are you saying that the bible makes so promises that differentiates a Christian from others?

Cos I'm simply stating what the bible teaches.

You aren't stating what the Bible teaches Sir. You are stating what you assumed it taught.

HardMirror:
ok sir. So how has your religion made the world a better place? Why do you want use to be born again? What do we gain?

New thread. Stop being a derailer or your own thread.

HardMirror:
hahahaha. I am not an atheist I am a Christian are u happy now

No don't mix it up.

You are an untrained psychologist.
Know this, know peace.

HardMirror:
talkative. Show me the question you have asked that I have not answered. It is unprintable not unprinted

Yes Sir. Thank you Sir

HardMirror:
I am an atheist not a Christian. It is your religion that has high and mighty claims of making humanity better. Or you don't read your bible? Ain't you supposed to be the salt of the earth? An atheist makes no such claims, I can live my life as uselessly as I want, but your own religion claims to make the world a better place which is a big fat lie

Can you kindly tell us why you want lordreed to be a Christian? As if your religion will make his life better in any way. Go and first better the lifestyle of your church members before you start inviting us to join your cult

Whatever question you have now, open another thread and call me in. I have securely achieve my aim here. And I will keep that focus alone.

And for the record, you aren't an atheist, you are an untrained psychologist who just have a score to settle with God and NL has giving you a platform as fighting ring.

Epèlé Sir.

Myer:


Loool so harsh.
Your point is simply what I've been trying to let him see.

Christian's are no different from anyone else in reality.
But biblically, they should be.

Just like those practising other religions according to their own Holy books should be different from the reality we see today.

The true Hinduist, Buddhist,Confucian, Traditionalists etc also believe they are supposed to be the better people than others but guess what in reality they are just as greedy, selfish, dishonest, sexually perverted,etc just as most Christian's and Muslims.

So it begs the question, instead of focusing your attention on atheists, why not look inward and see why your own religion- Christianity for Hupernikao, has failed to live up to it's promise and standard.

I guess you are speaking for yourself based on false information you held as a Bible reader. This is obvious in the fact that you are not even able to differentiate a life in Christ from other things.


And for the second time, I have told you that I don't attack atheist, not anyone. Questioning someone isn't an attack. Your partner HardMirror has used a million unprinted word for me here, did you see me trail that line with him? So where did you see the attack. Am sure you are just thinking it just in your head.

People like HardMirror, the solution to their challenges is to question them, they will start speaking swahili as he has done since yesterday. Then later he will shout Jesus.

And also Sir, I hope you will take time to start knowing what Christianity truly is about. This will help your assumptions.

HardMirror:
useless senseless, profitless talk as usual. How has christianity benefited 2billion Christians already? Look around you, look at Nigerian which problem is ur religion solving? NOTHING

Problem solver. If I asked you now which problem have you solved as an individual, you will japaa again. You are still struggling with a single question since yesterday. Better be careful before I vex for you and give you question that will last you a lifetime

HardMirror:
even if lordreed converts to your religion, it in no way validates your religion. After all 2billion people already practice christianity in various forms yet they have not been able to show that God benefits mankind in any way. Christians are terrible, ordinary, useless as every other human being on earth be it muslims, Hindus, or even atheists your god has in no way made you better humans

Pèlé untrained psychologist.

No one is seeking validation. It's a clown that seek such.

If all you are dwelling on for a whole year is seeking validation, your journey is still far then. But I know, in due time, your eyes will clear like the surface of the morning dew collected over a pool.

Myer:


A newly converted true Muslim walking in newness of life is simply no different from a newly converted true Christian walking in newness of life.

Why I am particular about you mentioning the Holyspirit is because that truly is what differentiates the Christian from every other religion scripturally.

We are actually saying same thing all through now. Newness of life to Christian is not same as to others. Newness of life is the life in the spirit, spirit of God.

gnhpowerhouse:
In a Church ,A member Recently had an Event ...Her Junior sister just got Married ...The Member Handpicked two Members of the Church who followed her .

The Pastor of the Church was not Happy about it ,He told the Secretary to announce that next time any member has a Function/ Party ,The person must inform the Church and members that would attend the Event must be selected .

Please i need your Input on this No one knows all..

Questions : Is it wrong for a member to invite other members of a Church to an Event without informing the Pastor ?

Must all Relationship , Engagement of the members especially social be known by the Pastor ?



Thanks ..

Yes it is wrong. So far your relationship with those people started under same umbrella (the church). It's not just about you, but about the fact that the Pastor is accountable even to the society, for everyone who are truly under him.

If anything happens to those people, we will start here, A CARELESS PASTOR ALLOWS A MEMBER OF... USE ANOTHER MEMBER FOR....


If you don't have ulterior motive, then it shouldn't be an issue informing your pastor about inviting a member under his watch.

Make member no go influence member to start taking meth

LordReed:


Well, all I will say is thanks for your well wishes. Wish you a prosperous New Year in advance.

That my prosperous new year include seeing you doing God's will. Hope you know.

Myer:


Every true new convert into any religion or philosophy walks in a newness of life. Because theres a paradigm shift in the person's mindset.

What the bible does teach which should separate the believer is the indwelling of the person of the Holyspirit whose evidence in the life of the believer is in speaking of tongues and impartation of other spiritual gifts and fruit (of love) which one begins to grow and manifest as the life of Christ becomes more evident in that believer.

This is really what should be the difference between a Christian and non-Christians but apparently this is hardly so.

You are still repeating exactly what I said. In Christianity, newness of life is the receiving and the walking in and by the spirit.

Wahala dey o

Myer:


I was baiting you to say what the bible actually teaches which is the power of the Holyspirit in the new convert- viz spiritual gifts and spiritual fruit.

But I guess we've established apriori that you don't really believe in those portions of the bible.

You still not cease to make assumption for me. What is the difference between newness and the giving of the holyghost. Bro, don't let us start another exegesis here. My fourth post before this already informed you about supernatural life. I guess until Holyspirit is mentioned you can't seems to know the essence of the spirit in all I have been writing.

HolySpirit
Newlife
Eternal life
Newness

Are all words used in place of explaining the receiving of the spirit in the scriptures. So the moment you see a newlife in Christ, that is already the indwelling of the spirit. It's one and the same.

Hence, Christian walk is a walk in this newness.

Myer:


True. That's what the bible promises.
But interestingly this is what a newly converted true Muslim (not terrorists.lol) also experiences.
In fact this is what anyone who comes to some form of "wokeness" or "enlightenment" outside religion also experiences.

So is there any difference from the experience of the new Christian convert and a new convert into Islam or any other religion or enlightenment?

I guess you mixed the newness in Christ with what others mean.

Firstly. We are speaking of SALVATION through Faith in Christ.

Secondly, Christ lived the life he wanted us to live. That is the example we see. That life is not what I am imposed to live, it is a life impacted to me. IMPACTED, note that word. It is what I have and has become.

A reality. Not what I have to be. A reality I know, and experience daily in my life. It is who I am not who I will be. Not one doing it because he doesn't want to be punished or go to hell (using your word). But one living it because that's his life. He loves to live it not because of a condition but because that is who he is.

Myer:


Ok. First let me apologise for my assumption of your theology.
Now, what is the difference between one who has this salvation and one who doesn't?

In the Present
He is saved now, and found purpose and meaning to life in Christ Jesus. He daily learns to walk in this perfection as unto his Lord.

To walk in the newness of life as his lord will do. A process that happens daily. This includes knowing the world is beyond what you see but that which you can't see but prevails in man's affairs.

LordReed:


He claimed he had foreseen all atheism ending in Nairaland on 1st Jan 2020 and staked his account on it.

LOL.

I don't need dont need to foresee. I am trusting for you. And I will keep doing so. I believe so much in you and your ability to receive this light and hope. I am trusting that someday we will contend together in this and or this faith. I believe in your place in This Light.

LordReed:


You are doing the same thing that Jesusjnr did in 2018 that made him delete his account. LMAO!

..

What did he do?

You should know that this my account has passed through ocean and fire.

Myer:


Exactly my point. You really can point out the difference.

Biblically the only difference is that you will make it to heaven. While those who do not believe in Jesus like you do will end up in hell. Right?

That's a religious belief shared by other religions too.

The Muslims believe all Christian's are fanned for their own version of hell.
Jews believe non-Jews are damned for their own version of hell.
Christian's believe non-Christians are damned for hell.
Other religions believe those who do not practise theirs are likewise damned for their own version of hell.

Only few religions don't condemn others to hell.

So if you have any concrete difference between you and a non-believer in Jesus, praytell, this might convert me and others.

You always assume my theology. I never said everything you put up there.

I only asked if we can align on what the "problem" is. If we do then it will help our discussion.

Bible is not and never about heaven or hell. It's about salvation through faith in Christ.

Simply seeing the salvation which is a central theme in the Bible should let you know that Bible already have a bias that the world itself is already in a chaos, degenerating and corruptible state. You don't save someone or something that is not in danger. Salvation is to rescue to safety.

So if the focus of the Bible is salvation, then making heaven or casting into hell is just a doctrinal superimposition.

There is no need to throw the world in hell or fire or anything, the world is already in a state of degradation. It's only a matter of time. The evil and corruption in the world is self destructive and you know. Hence, Bible theology only present to you the

The WHY
The WHAT
The WAY OUT

Also note that, a man who view all about this world as natural and neglect facts of supernatural or spiritual, is yet to start living. These are facts that will outline the "problem" of these world.

Myer:


What makes you think this will solve any problem?

You that have received the light of Christ, do you mind sharing what is the difference between you and others?

This depends on what you see as the problem.
When we align on this, I can let you know what the light does.

What is the problem to be solved?

Myer:


You of all people should know that your weapon us stronger than a weapon it is an attack on the mindset and belief system of others.

About the thread, well, I'm sure I've made my position known from the jump.

Every belief system that is not of God is coming down next year. Either imagination, knowledge, thoughts, mindset etc. The walls have cracked. They will all fall flat in 2022.

Even HardMirror will be rejoicing in God's light next year. LordReed sef is doing pressup warming up. All lines with fall in great places in 2022.

Myer:






Did you type these?
Then you seemed to assert that I and Hardmirror are the same person under different accounts sir.

Anyway, it happens but we are not.
Stay safe.

And interestingly I finally decided to google the meaning of your moniker. Romans 8:37
Explains a lot.lol Cheers to greater unveilings and conquests in 2022.

I know in 2022, we will have God's light lighting more territories even on NL. Lol.

And for you Sir, a blessed year ahead.

HardMirror:
I don't agree. I am not looking for respect. He should not respect my opinion, I am not also going to respect any rubbish. He should prove me wrong.

Prove 100% IQ wrong. Who am I?

You are the one who is disappointing me with your 100% IQ that can't answer a simple question. Sadly also, you find it hard to accept you don't know the answer.

This is the true picture of a man hawking ignorance spread on a tray of dishonesty.

HardMirror:
it is relevant to this topic. Or cant you read? The topic states that there is no proof for creationism. If there is then there must be a creator, if there is a creator, where did the creator come from. This is common sense stop being smart by half. This is exactly what this thread is about, stop playing dumb

Afraid to start another thread? I don't mix issues up.

Your thread here is already flawed. It couldn't provide necessary information and conviction of what it intend to do. I have 5 questions, which I have only asked one. If you are rigmaroling on just one question, that means I should keep the 5th question till end of 2023. Lol.

Myer:


You chose to believe that there's a creator.
Yet you have to evidence of that creator.

Others chose to believe theres no creator due to the lack of same evidence, and you have an issue with that?

Anyway, not long ago I wasin your shoes. You're simply following orders from the bible to evangelise. I can understand.

Anyway, everybody go dey aii las las.

Live and let live is my mantra.

Unfortunately religionists are not allowed to allow live without believing in their belief.

You know the worst part of religionism?
Once the person finally accepts and converts, another fight begins, cos there are many other doctrines/factions/denominationalism in each religion and no 2 people share the same religious beliefs especially in Christianity.

Anyway, compliments of the season bro.
Just please and please, this coming year, know this and know peace. Others don't have to be wrong for you to be right.
Belief system is important. You shouldn't try to force people out of what they believe.
You can preach the gospel without forcing your belief on others.

It is God's work to determine who he has prepared to accept your message.

Do you see dagger in my hand hunting down unbelievers? You assume alot Bro.

Was I the one who created the thread and started "live and not let others live" ?. Your advise is inverted. Turn it the right way to the person who see triumph in attacking believers yet without ability that withstand scrutiny.

Have you ever see me attack anyone? I only questioned. And it became a problem.

So, Bro answer my question or give your advise to your fellow bigbanger.

As of 2022 Bro, even you will be as I am as the Lord liveth. The new year will come with the newness of things and light to your heart.

Amen.

HardMirror:
answer the question. Who or what created God. Or god just appeared from no where?

Create a new thread for this and invite me. I will show up.

But for now don't derail your thread. You claimed to know more of how things started without a creator. This is what you need to explain here.

I still await you.