HardMirror:
life started from synthesis of simple organic compounds. How did I japaaa?

Bro, I am still waiting to know how all things and life started from uncreated organic compound and inorganic element. I am seriously waiting. Please don't japaa o.

Myer:


Try to keep up, i'm not derailing.
I'm simply throwing your question back to you as a reference to my next point.

If the biblical God is the Creator then that too is flawed because he simply just came into existence from no where and started creating the universe right?

If that's the case then Darwinism can also be true because the first organism also came out of no where then natural selection began.

Likewise the big bang theory can also be true because the first atom simply also came out of nowhere and exploded into the universe.

What you proposed up there is a fallacy.

Like I said, we aren't looking at a creator here. We are looking at how life began without a creator. Why is that hard. So if I am not a Christian or doesn't believe in a God and question your theories, you will be saying what you wrote up there? Is your issue always with debunking a creator or telling us what you have discovered and hold true?

I say again, explain bigbang magic and let's know how life started in a magical way.

I need this education.

Myer:


We didnt have any convo yesterday sir.
You seem confused.

You are the one who need to change your glasses and read properly. I never said you. I said I have been. Go through the thread and read well Sir. It's written in language you understand.

Myer:


You did not answer my question.
Your answer is a prerequisite to any further explanation I can give.

I was the one asking the same question since yesterday and no answer. You owe me that.

You asked if I didn't do science. I accepted. And asked you to help me explain bigbang since I missed the class

This shouldn't be hard Bro.

Myer:


Who created God?

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Bro? Did you miss the OP? It's not about who created God. Don't derail Sir.

He said no evidence of it. So I accept. I only need your own evidence of how life started from nothing without magic.

If you want to start your own thread on "who created God" then open a new thread and give me special iV there. I will surely take the front seat. You should know by now, I don't run away from my convictions.

Myer:


Did you at any point study science in school?

Do you understand the concept of the big bang theory?

The purpose of any argument should be to pursue knowledge and understanding, not to prove you're right and others are wrong.

You should start 2022 with this mindset.

Good Sir.

Please present the theory here for me in a simple way since I no go school.

Please present it, it's part of learning. I am interested.

HardMirror:
kind of you explaining to him. But he is just trolling trust me. He is a blockhead not willing to learn anything. Funny thing is, he ain't even bold about his creationist stance

Trolling? You must be very proud of your lack of knowledge of what you discuss.

I am not bold of creation by a creator?
You must have been reading me with eyes closed.

I am not here to argue a creator with you, you claimed to have debunked my theory of a creator. Shey bi no creator, I accept.


Now
So all I am here for, is for you to present your solution to creation without a creator to me. It was your claim.

I know I have put you in an inconvenient position. But that's where you will be until you can provide a true answer to your claim. Dancing around the market square.

This is the 6th time. 6th time o. I am asking you same question and you can't answer.

Tell us how life, things started from nothing. How things can evolve or banged from nothing. This is already looking like ICAN exams to you

I need your answers Bro, let me learn.

Myer:


Scientists don't claim to have a bogus knowledge of creation unlike religions.

They simply hypothesise and postulate possible theories to explain the creation of life. With testable and verifiable evidences.

There's the big bang theory.
The evolution theory
And others.

But you have been taught in the bible and Quran and Talmud that the whole of creation was made in 6 days. Yet you accept that


Juxtapose that with the scientific theories aformentioned then you be the judge.
Oh I forgot, you're actually not allowed to judge.lol

Yet you're quick to scrutinise and attempt to puncture holes in the belief systems (or lack) of others, but fail to acknowledge the ridiculous and overwhelming holes in yours.
That sound familiar? Before picking the speck in the eye of another, you should take the log out of yours first.

I have searched for any meaning contribution you have made on this thread, and as usual disappointment is an understatement.

Epèlé Sir. Ekúu intervention.
Is like the other account is slow to knowledge or don't have the boldness this your account have to accept the faults

So you have passed the first test. Accepting that

1. No solution proffered by science nor you but you know that their is no creator.

2. That science proposed more magical theories than even what the Bible you criticize promote. This is a very shameless acceptance.

Shè in all these education you guys claim, you don't reread your write ups?

Even writing big bang, your hands were shaking and you have to retyped it 3 times. Lol. If the theory doesn't seems magical to you, at least the name should give you magical sense. Lol.


Secondly, i have told you over and over again, that your knowledge of the Bible is too obscured. No single understanding there. No zeal to even try to know. But you carry that false information around and throwing explanations you know nothing of. What you wrote up there about the Bible makes me shake my head for you. Ę derail gan ni Sir.

You have been asked a trillion times, what are the holes in the Bible, no serious response but kept saying holes.

When you start to take to my advise and explanation to you. It will go along way to form you and make you a better person. Take that to the bank.

HardMirror:
ok. Good you know you have no defense, no thoughts, no point, ignorant and have nothing to contribute.

Bro answer question and stop dilly dally. Don't be lazy to respond to queries. Or are you a man of no solution but all taking?

HardMirror:
let me for a moment pretend I am wrong. Please can you tell us where life appeared from. Why have you been beating about the Bush or are you ashamed of saying god created life? Be bold nau. Tell us where life came from

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How will an 100% IQer be wrong.

Me? You are the one who debunked creation from a creator. Then i need you to explain how things started. This is what I have been asking you since. Why is it hard to let us know since you know there isn't a creator.

Or your work is only to criticize? What is the solution you provide now.

How does life, things started out. This is a straight forward question nah.

HardMirror:
organic compounds are products of inorganic compounds/elements.

The fact you keep saying "japaa" proves my point that you no get sense and have nothing to contribute. You that has not japaaa, can you please tell us the origin of life? At least I have stated mine

You haven't started anything. So you are the one who need to reason here.

The inorganic element, just appeared right? Didn't come from anywhere? They are the uncreated creator. Isn't it?

That is the question you aren't polite enough to answer. The bold ones among your peers are usually polite enough to accept they don't know. But I am ready for your own dilly dally.

HardMirror:
will you shut up. Imagine talking to me as if you get sense. I should correct myself now. A senseless intellectually depraved person like you telling me to correct myself. Show me your sensible contribution on this thread that shows you even have an IQ of 50 here.

Epèlé Sir.
Shé kò sí ñkan Sir. Hope there is no trouble? On top internet discussion? You will survive it.

I say again, go and read your message and correct yourself. Your inability to understand things and communicate well is embarrassing your 100% IQ.

Focus on the discussion or japaa again.

Was your "organic compound" uncreated?

HardMirror:
life started from synthesis of simple organic compounds. How did I japaaa?

Read what you wrote again and correct yourself.

Organic compound is the uncreated matter, abi? That started all things.

Correct yourself now.

HardMirror:
evolution is different from biogenesis. Both are science and science has given credible explanation to the origin of life.

Science has rather debunked spiritual or supernatural activities as nothing of such has so far proven to exist.

Can you tell me one single supernatural activity that proves god exist?

You are yet to answer how life began. Is it that hard HardMirror.

One who claim knowledge but disappeared when the knowledge is needed is not fit to be relied on.

O kàn fún wa ní fàabú ni with all your science said, science discovered. Let's explain how the very life began, you japaa.

oteneaaron:


Yes, GOD again!!! and how does GOD judge again??

Oh i forgot...heaven and hell right??

@firstking01 , be free of religion, grow up and see the world more clearly. If you were created by "GOD" then he must have been created too....and You created Him.

I'm you went to church today and your Pastor told you how much "GOD" loves a cheerful giver, and how much you would burn in "HELL" in you didn't do the needful right??

Leave religious sentiments behind, get a life and grow up.....Humanity is growing up...don' be left behind living your life according to an ancient
"holy manual"

You created an argument and wanted contribution. Yet you used your hands to start swaying it like a man who wears confusion and ignorance as wrapper.

When one who knows nothing start teaching as a professor, the world won't be "growing", the world will be "groaning" .

Legendguy:
I'm jus curious, I attended a deliverance program today and women are just falling down scattering chairs, I couldn't settle in one place cos of frequent falling. I noticed that men hardly fall. Is it because we caution our body not to fall or women are generally possessed?

Is like you attended as a supervisor of the program or a pressman, or better still a math student learning how to count. I wonder what happens these days.

You use your legs waka go such meeting and the only thing you come back with is the blessing of counting falls or a fall counter.
No be juju be this.

HardMirror:
your problem is comprehension. From the op is it not stated already? It has been proven that life can evolve in the right conditions

And I guess your thread is as good as collecting water into a basket.

Next time, know what you want to discuss well. An online critic who jump around yet doesn't have a conviction or facts is just like a hoodlum looking for what to loot in a barrack.

Nah koboko e go chop las las.

iramure:
you can't see anything wrong in the ills going on in the church. Let's drop our conversation here. Thanks.

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I can't see it when you can't state it. Is there anyone that can see what doesn't exist? And if it exist state it properly?

Or take my explanation well. I am sure you love people to honor you too. Show love to you and regard your labor. How then do you see it evil for follower to honor their leader?

It sounds demonic to me

HardMirror:
your problem is comprehension. From the op is it not stated already? It has been proven that life can evolve in the right conditions

Thanks for the compliment.

Kindly answer the question Sir. You haven't said anything than strawman. It's easy to get data and come on NL to criticize without basis. You haven't done anything special. You are only contributing to the noise on this forum.

Until you rightly state how life began, your knowledge is still too young to dabble into issue of creation and life.

Don't be lazy or afraid, state your stand.

iramure:
you can't actually understand what I meant by that. In my local church, our pastor made us see kumuyi as extraordinary being, the only prophet of this generation! The moment kumuyi comes on air/appear on screen, all members must give him standing ovation. Whereas we sing choruses, praise and worship to god sitting down. Later I discover that the way we carry this kumuyi is too much and I became uncomfortable with seeing ordinary human being like myself as extra ordinary.

I haven't seen anywhere in your explanation that shows he is treated as God. Or as deity. .

We stand to give respect to our parents, seniors, people we honor, how does standing for him become a focal point of your worship.

If you can do that to your boss at work, your super clients, business helper, I am sure if Dangote showed up in a room you reside, you may even prostrate for reasons best known.

How much more one who feeds you with God's word? Isn't that call honor, regard? Bible taught a double honor for such who teaches you God's word.

Secondly, what do you mean by carry him? I am sure he isnt carried on the shoulders or sitting on men's heads. What you refer to should be how his member honor him. Is it a bad virtue?

Don't you do that to the world? Why then does doing that to one who feed you God's word become an issue.

HardMirror:
the topic states there is no evidence for creation. Simple. Or is there any evidence for the claim that life was created? By who, by what? When? How?

Do you know how life began? That is a simple question. What is your stand on how the very first life began. Don't find that hard to explain.

The one who believes in creation is bold enough to state his believe and what he knows about creation.

Why aren't you bold enough to state your conviction about how life began since you have a different view.

It's one thing to criticize, it's another thing to have the boldness of the one you criticize.

How did life begins Sir. The very first life.

LordReed:


I dunno what she is. Why not ask her instead of assuming?

Enjoying myself. How about you?

Well, I will allow more time for now on that. Hopefully I can interact with her soon.

I am very well too.
Thanks.

HardMirror:
Just so you know and perhaps you can think...

1. No single evidence for creationism
2. There are thousands of evidence that supports evolution.
3. Creationism teaches that life came from nothing, yet creationists keep asking where life started with evolution?

There is absolutely no reason to believe a god created life and no evidence for it.

if you have evidence or superior arguement that supports creationism over evolution tell us, cause no one in the world has so far presented any evidence that life was created


Happy Sunday

You cleverly didn't state how life began even though you assert that there is no creator.
Can you clear this.

How does like began. The very first life outside a creator?

iramure:
I was once a member of DLCM, I quit when I started noticing some strange things in thier mode of worship
Kumuyi is not the only one misleading people, all other big founders and other G.Os are all fraud.

Strange things like what Sir. Speak clearly.

1nigeriamyfoot:


I don't have time following any MOG

I only pray to God & do good

This is the root of your problem Sir. Now I know.

1nigeriamyfoot:


Wake up from your slumber before it's too late for you

Do you use drum for services?

Do you wear wedding dress?

Did Kumuyi said we shouldn't criticize Buhari or not?

When you raise issues like this, I expect you to handle this using God's word. All you wrote are only sentiment and emotions. You don't criticize or scrutinize like this. When you aren't a social media hoodlum, I assumed. Or do you have personal scores to settle with him? If not, make use of your bible.

1nigeriamyfoot:


Are you saying W.F Kumuyi is wiser than Jesus?

Jesus criticized king Herod so why would Kumuyi said we shouldn't criticize Buhari when it's open secret that Buhari is making life difficult for Nigerians?

Why is Kumuyi still G.O after his son has his wedding wearing coat & the bride wore white wedding garment whereas his church members were forced to wear skirt & blouse plus stupid turban while they look like someone mourning on their wedding day

I hate hypocrites

Please which king did Jesus criticize? Herod?

1nigeriamyfoot:


Are you saying W.F Kumuyi is wiser than Jesus?

Jesus criticized king Herod so why would Kumuyi said we shouldn't criticize Buhari when it's open secret that Buhari is making life difficult for Nigerians?

Why is Kumuyi still G.O after his son has his wedding wearing coat & the bride wore white wedding garment whereas his church members were forced to wear skirt & blouse plus stupid turban while they look like someone mourning on their wedding day

I hate hypocrites

Please which king did Jesus criticize?

1nigeriamyfoot:
Kumuyi misled most of you guys with his cult group he tagged church

In the Bible, drums, piano & other musical instruments was used to praise God but kumuyi said it's not biblical to praise God with musical instruments so they don't use drum in the cult group packaged as church

Kumuyi said it's bad to watch TV whereas he uses same TV to broadcast all his TV activities infact deeper life member only observe services by watching TV which is nothing but stupid & hypocritical attitude from th cult leader named Kumuyi

Pastor W F Kumuyi sees all religious killing under Buhari as nothing even when a pastor of his cult group was murdered in cold just because Buhari is close friend of Kumuyi

Kumuyi was so blind that nothing is working under Buhari but will always sing praises of Buhari at every slight opportunity to do so because he wants to be Biharis friend at all time

The same Kumuyi who banned his church member from wearing wedding garment but his son married his wife wearing wedding dress & nothing happens thereafter

The mumu Kumuyi threatened to stepped down as G.O but many years have passed but he's still the G.O

Anybody following W.F Kumuyi teachings is not only stupid but completely mad

Bro, hope there is no issue?

LordReed:


Amatarasha never claimed to be an atheist.

Good, she is a confirmed untrained psychologist then.

How is the Christmas with you? I know in the very near future you will celebrate its essence.

Amatarasha:
Real atheist with conscience don't just rush into marriages with empty pockets like foolish Christians, just to bring an innocent souls who will come to earth to suffer your sexual consequences on the bed before their births.

@LordReed. This is one of the untrained psychologist I spoke about. She isn't an atheist, I bet you.

Ayinke93:


Omo! Religion makes people stupid sha. It’s hilarious

. Brother wise. You are marking your own scripts. What a wisdom.