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thebosstrevor1:
There are none.

Google is owned by jews

Loool. America has a defence pact with those countries, infact that pact is the major reason for the unrest and terrorism in the Middle east, you should read further, whether google is owned by the jews is immaterial. We are one. I look forward to the day moslems will start contributing something meaningful to the world.. We are tired of violence and terroris...aren't u ashamed?

thebosstrevor1:
Indeed, is there any Christian nation troops in those countries, stop living in delusions

Please check how many American troops are stationed in those countries. Google(ironically owned by Christians) is your friend.

thebosstrevor1:
Invaded by whom?

You mean christian nations

Islamists of course. Christians are the ones defending Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE from their fellow moslems, what an irony

Abohboy:
Go and read about Baghdad at it's peak and the golden age of Islam google is your friend.

The numerals we use today were made in India but spread by the Arabs they were a bridge between Asia and the Western World

You're really going to ignore how Spain owned 20% of the world at a time it was once a world superpower also the Islamic Moors did a lot for Spain and if you bothered to use google you'd see why

Islamic radicalization I have no clue of how it started but Islam is not just bloodshed and inshallah as far as I know there's a source of the violence and it isn't always Islam

I am not Muslim I am a Christian who just reads about African Religions and enjoys history

All those stories that you people tell yourself to sleep well at night? They are just tales by moonlight.

thebosstrevor1:
The richest nation on earth is a muslim nation called Qatar.

All african Christians are running to the middle east to find for opportunities. You will them in saudi Arabia, Jordan, qatar,UAE, kuwait and these country have 1 thing in common they practice monarchy not democracy

Qatar is not the richest country in the world, it has enormous wealth as a result of its oil deposits developed of course by the west, the fact that it has a very small population makes her people very rich.

If Qatar is not heavily defended by the west, same as Saudi Arabia and UAE, Qatar would have gone to the dust as other hungry islamic countries would have invaded it since

Abohboy:
Islamic countries created modern day Europe, Islam ruled Spain and developed it massively Islam also taught Europe about numerlas, compass, sails and many other useful inventions go and learn about the golden age of islam and all the creations that were made in that time and also which country in Africa or South America or even Asia that is predominantly Christian is succeding? Christianity was used to take advantage of the peoples outside of Europe and now you see how good of a tool it was they are becoming richer and they tell us pray more and things will work out instead of us to learn of our own culture and work harder we're spending half of our money on Church and Christ and hoping jobs fall into our hands

Tissue of lies, Islam rule over Spain was very short, it didn't even conquer the whole of Spain, Spain had never been a world power either before, during or after Islamic rule.

2. Numerals was introduced by Egypt Years before Islam, Egypt under the Egyptian gods was the cradle of world civilization but Islam took their gods from them and turned Egypt into what it is today

3. Since the advent of Islam it has been war and violence even the brief spell of the only known islamic empire (ottomans?) was filled with violence and bloodshed

4. There has never been a golden age of Islam, it exists only in the imagination of you people, the ottoman empire is fairly recent just about 400 years ago and it didn't witness much development, it was filled with war and violence.

thebosstrevor1:
Democracy is just the present religion of Christian nations, they spread it with war and sanctions and propaganda.

If it was so good then other countries will have been adopting it with no issue but you are forced to adopt it or else you will die or your country destroyed.

Christian nations have been fighting the non believing nations because they didn't adopt their democracy religion, what have they achieved, profit from war, death of non believers, destruction and total collapse of nations, they keep disturbing world peace and endangering people

Every other country that adopted it have been doing well apart from Islamic countries, why?

Before the advent of democracy, were islamic countries peaceful?

What other means of government do you suggest? You want change of government to always be violent?

Democracy is actually not a Christian thing, it emanated from the greeks. There is no democracy actually in the Bible.

thebosstrevor1:
Christians accuse muslims of carrying out Jihads, anyway, the truth is that jihad isn't only a Muslim issue, it is also a Christian issue.

The first jihad ever taken place was carried out by Christians, it is called the crusaders, they killed non believers and forcefully converted them to Christians, those who wouldn't convert were killed.

On the African soil, ths Christians took their jihad to another level, all the Christian nation in the west came together to sell africans into slavery without remorse.

Another Christian jihad was colonization, they saw the rest of the wold as babarians, sent their army and administration then colonized the whole africa, then partitioned it to suit their fantasy.

What is presently going on?

Christian jihad take form in politics, This time they are not spreading christianity but another form of religion called DEMOCRACY, if the heads of various Christian nations do not like a leader of a particular country, they start shouting democracy, if he doesn't listen, they assassinate them, if it not possible, they organized a coup, if that is not possible, they sanction the country, place an economic embargo, make the population of the non believers suffer and then purposely make them revolt by all means until the leader is removed or killed by the non believers.

If the people support their leader, the Christian jihadists will start subverting the nation, black mailing the nation through their media, films , music and Various Ngos.

The truth is that the muslim jihad is just a counter attack to the Christian jihadist in political battle.

Almost all the whole world have been affected by Christian jihadists, the truth is that the world is in choas because of Christian jihadists, they are everywhere disguise in suits, creating unrest, using economic sanctions as a tool of control, sending armies and mercenaries to destroy a nation, my question is when will it stop?

Give your life to christ! You don't like democracy? Suggest another form of government you think is better than it!

mhmsadyq:
Materialism also leads to blood sucking.

Invariably non should be preferred.

Islam will continue to fight the peace of the shaitan

Any peace promoted by injustice cannot stand in the light of Islam.

Know this know peace!
No this no peace!

So it is the violence that is promoted by Islam that will stand?

Justice where Sharia only targets the poor and leave the rich. What has your justice done to Ganduje and all other corrupt Northern leaders who have turned the North into the poorest region in the world?

The richer Moslems get the more western they become, what did Sharia do to Buhari when during his Son's wedding people were dancing to lewd lyrics from Naira Marley?

Oga hustle and make money, use your brain, all these poverty induced delusions are the reason most moslems are dying in poverty.

Both Christians and moslems are materialistic it is just that you have been too blinded by your religion to see clearly

mhmsadyq:
Materialism also leads to blood sucking.

Invariably non should be preferred.

Islam will continue to fight the peace of the shaitan

Any peace promoted by injustice cannot stand in the light of Islam.

Know this know peace!
No this no peace!

Keep fighting peace every where since you are too dumb to know that if indeed you are fighting Shaitan, he would have been long dead.

I don't know if being dumb is a prerequisite for belonging to your religion. Most of the victims of this your fight against peace are moslems, the funny thing is that even the weapons you use are produced by the same Christians you detest.

Techreliance:
Why christians are so hypocritical & judgmental?
I don't even think you are in ur right sense, so, now it's only Muslims that goes on their empty bellies may be in ur village. U most be a Dumbass!

90% of today's desperately poor people are moslems, all failed countries in the world today are Islamic countries - Somalia, Afghanistan etc. Moslem populated countries today are a serious drag to progress and development, the North African countries today were once great empires until your Islam turned them into what they are today and it could have been worse if they had not chosen to be moderate moslems.

Ohh So managed to travel to North Africa and in your small minds you have seen the world, you saw a few christians hustling and with your small mind you already assumed that all christians are poor, see in Europe, America and even here in Nigeria it is a common sight to see millions of Moslem destitutes every where, looking unkempt and smelly, begging for alms every where.

You need to start using your brain for once-empty headed terrorist.

thebosstrevor1:
Southern Christians stop acting like you love arewa Christians aka Northern Christians. Stop pretending, the only reason you support northern Christians is because you want to pit Northern Christians against northern muslims forgetting that they are both from the same ancestry.

During all the destruction spree caused by ipob and odua nation AGITATORS in the south, did it come to your mind that some of the destroyed properties were owned by Northern Christians. You destroyed it all.

Don't come here and act like you love them when every northern that speaks Hausa is aboki in the south, is a terrorist and a fulani herdmen, don't think you can deceive Northern Christians with your false love, we know if you were given the right opportunity, you won't hesitate to massacre the north whether Christian or muslim because you won't know the difference, northern Christians know your trick, they might be United in religion with the south but they can never trust the Southern Christians. As they say blood is thicker than water, no matter our religious differences, we in the north are United.

Dont mix things up, Christians are not allowed by the tenets of our religion to massacre people, we are encouraged to love even our enemies
So in as much as we detest your thirst for blood we don't dream of massacres! If your religion encourages you to massacre people its better you give your life to Christ.

Techreliance:
Ok, but could you apply same to your brethrens seeking Financial resources, Human resources and Natural resources in Moslem majority countries. Also am sure without christians the Global world would av developed more than what they are today, if you don't know pls do your findings the Christiandom dull human brain
Those scientists and inventors we av in history do you think any of them were devoted Christian.

Hahhhhaha, Christiandom dull human beings.. This is so delusional, without christendom you will still be living in huts, no development whatever.

Islam has contributed nothing, absolutely nothing to human development. All you moslems do invade already developed or developing countries, destroy them but claim that Islam is the basis for their development.

e.g Egypt, Persia(now Iran) Babylon (Iraq) these were world empires who laid the foundation for today's civilization but Islam touched them and they are now totally and absolutely useless, thank God the romans were not stupid enough to allow any vestige of Islam to touch them.

Even here in Nigeria, look at the once mighty Hausa empire- look at what they are today.

99% of today's invention, including that dynamite that moslems terrorists like to use and blow themselves to smithereens in hope of some phantom 77 virgins are manufactured by Christians.

Kiss the truth if all moslems decide to leave the earth for mars today, Earth will become peaceful and progressive while Mars will turn useless within weeks. Watch Afghanistan for example, in the next few weeks it will turn to another Somalia.

Pray for islam, pray for your fellow Moslems many of them will go to bed today without food in their belly, clothes on their back and shelter on their head.

Techreliance:
Ok, but could you apply same to your brethrens seeking Financial resources, Human resources and Natural resources in Moslem majority countries. Also am sure without christians the Global world would av developed more than what they are today, if you don't know pls do your findings the Christiandom dull human brain
Those scientists and inventors we av in history do you think any of them were devoted Christian.

How many? What is the proportion of Christians in moslem countries vs moslems in Christian countries?

How many moslem countries are peaceful and liveable not up to 5!

Most of them are violence consumed, poverty ridden and disease plagued.

Techreliance:
*CHRISTIAN DOCTORS IN SAUDI ARABIA*

Now that Nigerian Christian medical doctors are desperately seeking career asylum in Saudi Arabia, a neo-conservative Sharia State, I wonder what could be the reaction of their Apex body, the Christian Association of Nigeria.

The truth is that Nigerian Christians are very shameless, especially on issues pertaining to money making. The entire creed of that faith is built on voluptuous materialism and luxury of prosperity. I have no regret for always asserting that pentacostalism is a huge scam!

I thank Allah for not making my parents amongst the Christians, otherwise I would have probably grown up as greedy and foolish as every John and Michael who runs to Saudi Arabia in a desperate search for a greener pasture. Let's thank Allah that we are Muslims.

Nigerian Christians, especially in the South, bark and tremble at the sight of any Islamic identity. To them, a Muslim's adorning hijab is Islamization; non interest banking is Islamization; a conscious Muslim as the CEO is Islamization, etc. Infact, Islamic identity is the aching tragedy for many Christians.

Now that they are begging for jobs in Saudi Arabia, the foremost home of Islamic identity, where the best of mankind was birthed, the super home of Shari'a in action, where the females are honourably concealed in deep dark purdah, how will Christians cope with this cultural beauty?

It's high time we stopped taking Christian leaders serious in this country. It's now clear that whenever a Christian bark, he's only crying for survival. The entire faith-system is a fraud! I do not regret what I write on this. If you so wish, you may choose to report me to Zuckerberg that I insulted you.

I have been looking for a way out of this platform, so I lose nothing with Zuckerberg's action. You may also stop talking to me at work. You may as well choose not to do business with me again. Allah's is the glory, I don't have a single Christian in my extended family!

As for those of us who always run abroad, including Saudi Arabia, for medicals, it's now clear that those at home are no different from those abroad. We should appreciate the value of our health workers at home. We should learn to trust the surgeons, nurses and pharmacists working at home.

By Abu Mazeedatilkhayr Bn Sa'eed.

We will start taking people like you seriously when moslems stop making ''travelling to the west'' their ultimate ambition in life.

Better to be greedy and materialistic than be a blood sucking terrorist. Without moslems the world will be a lot peaceful..a lot!

vedaxcool:
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Another incoherent garbage.

Empty headed terrorist!

vedaxcool:
but they were foolish enough to sell tucanos to the government. Comfort yourself with whatever tale you can concoct.

Selling* is different from giving* you may need the help of a dictionary here.

Only a fool gives something freely to terrorists. We know that the Tuscano will eventually end up in the hands of Boko haram its just a matter of time. But at least no one will accuse the US of not selling to Nigeria.

vedaxcool:
You are wasting your time. They have been told over and over again that the reason why they cannot prosper is because some people from the north sit on their destiny. They are soo foolish that they cannot explain why THE US WHICH HAS A DRONE BASE IN NIGER AND CHAD TOTALLING 3 HAVE NEVER GIVEN NIGERIA ONE SHRED OF INTELLIGENCE IN OUR FIGHT AGAINST BH.

They suffer congenital imbecility which induces genetical inferiority.

US will give you intelligence so that you can pass it to your brothers - BH and bandits. You must really thing Americans are fools

Ovamboland:
Almost nothing significant happened in the first term of Obasanjo, but he had the advantage of the euphoria of the feeling of been free from military jack boot and steadily increasing revenue from oil. Also with international goodwill and some foreign investment in key sectors like telecoms and expansion of the financial sector due to pent up demand. Better growth came with even faster increase in oil prices and consolidation of financial sector.
He did not face crisis close to loss of 70% of national income. The crisis he faced are security challenges in different parts of the country, misapplication of funds and little attention to infrastructure.

The telecom sector was transformed in Obasanjo's first term, he also increased minimum wage, that period saw a lot of investors bringing in good money into the economy, even the United sates president stayed for 3 days here in Abuja, Miracles did not happen in his first term but the solid foundation for economic prosperity was laid.

He wasn't borrowing up and down like a prodigal son only to justify it with railways

Ovamboland:
Why did private railway companies not come and invest in Nigeria at the same time MTN and co came into our telecoms? Didn't we have need for fast rail transport in 1999-2000? The error in your thinking is the notion that it's every sector that attracts private investment.
Can you name one emerging country like India, Indonesia, South Africa, Malaysia where private investors are the ones raising financing and building their roads, bridges and railway that are not known to be quick money spinners.

You really think foreign investors will come rushing to sectors with long break even points that the citizens and government don't want to put money? Why do you think USA, doyen of capitalism and private investment is making provisions and passing bills for $1 trillion infrastructure investment? You think it's a joke right? To leave your strategic infrastructure needs merely to profit decision of individual capital?

Pray tell me the name of the private investors that raised funds for the Shinkasen in Japan, Autobahn in Germany, EU Eurostar railway network, underwater English channel railway link between France and UK, Chinese Maglev trains, Tennessee valley authority network of dams in USA and Panama canal system built by USA.

Don't be carried away by preachment of the developed world that they themselves cannot follow to the letter.

Are you telling me that it makes sense for a single government to borrow more than all the previous ones just because of railway? Apart from ego what purpose does the railway serve? What percentage of Nigerians use it? This year's budget was financed by a huge deficit same as next year's. How can you run your nation to the brink of bankruptcy just because of railways?

The vast majority of travellers still make use of the roads, yet when the roads were built did Nigeria run into bankruptcy? Over 70% of national income is currently being used to service debts and it makes sense to you that the only thing to show for it are railways?

I refuse to believe any one will justify this kind of imbecilic profiligacy with railways.. It just doesn't make sense

Coronabirus:
May be you were not born during OBJ's tenure or u were kid to know his atrocities and autocratic govt he ran in the guise of democracy.
Have a look at this incomplete list of victims of assassinations under Obasanjo out of which not a single one was solved in the entire 8 years of his tenure which were carried out to make way for his agenda - Chief Bola Ige (Attorney General of the Federation); Dr. Marshall Harry (ANPP National Vice Chairman for South-South); Chief Ogbonnaya Uche (ANPP's Senatorial candidate for Orlu Imo State); Mr Theodore Agwatu (Principal Secretary to Imo State Governor); Hon. Odunayo Olagbaju (Member of Osun State House of Assembly);Hon. Uche Nwoke (ANPP Senatorial candidate in Imo State); Hon. Monday Ndor (Member of Rivers State House of Assembly); Dr. Ayodeji Daramola, gurbernatorial candidate in Ekiti State; Ahmed Ahman Pategi (State Chairman of Kwara PDP); Hon Schnapps Omuvwiebese (Councilor, Ughelli - North LG, Delta State); Mr. Funsho Williams, PDP governoship aspirant in Lagos; Mr. Barnabas Igwe (Anambra State Bar Association, Chairman) and his wife, Mrs. Abigail Igwe; Mr. Sunday Ugwu, Mrs. Janet Olapade among many others. Readers should remember that Tafa Balogun has impliedly alleged that he was subjected to Ribadu’s rage by OBJ because he refused to carry out the requested elimination of a former PDP chairman! Reliable sources have confirmed that the only reason Balogun had to spend 6 months in EFCC guest houses as opposed to long time imprisonment and deprivation of all the stolen billions was to prevent him from spilling his guts out.
If u only know how militaralised OBJ's tenure was u won't say this!

All the thousands of innocent souls being killed under Buhari, including the General that was brutally killed by bandits in broad day light..which one has he solved?

Ovamboland:
Nigeria has never defaulted in her loan repayment and if infrastructure is needed to diversify and jump start the economy it must be financed.
We can't keep insisting on the model that ensure Ajaokuta steel is not complete after 40 years of sinking money or it took 33 years to complete the strategic Itakpe Warri rail.

The model that delivered Lagos Ibadan rail in 4 years has my support any day. Imagine we financed the rail 30 years ago instead of making our forex available for private jet imports, we won't be here today.

How much did Nigeria borrow to build the telecoms industry? If Nigeria had borrowed to fix NITEL rather than bring in the massive investment how would NITEL be faring today?

The Ajaokuta steel you mentioned despite all the loans how has it fared? You talk about the railways as if it started 4 years ago, NO it has been on since 2006, it just so happened that it was completed recently but even that how much money is it bringing? Can the money being made pay back the loan? Only lazy minds believe that borrowing is the only way to grow an economy?

How many countries have borrowed their way to prosperity?

Hanibbal:
Islam has caused the world much pain. How do I convince my children that Islam is a peaceful religion.

May GOD save us from allah and his boys.

This is not Islam please, this is imbecilic Biden

Ovamboland:
In a recession, one sure way of getting out of it is to spend heavily to restart activities and prevent further contraction of activities in the economy.
The funds must come from somewhere, either raising taxes or taking on debt. Raising taxes has its own problem in an economy with good tax system with wide net. Maybe less impact on spending power in a low tax system like in Nigeria with good scope for widened net.

It will be counterproductive to cut spending and investment in an economy seeing recession. The strategy to take on debt considering the difficulty and unpredictability of wider tax net.

But tax must be collected in the long term to guarantee repayment or servicing of the loans taken.

So borrowing heavily is your own way out of recession? How will the loans be repaid? Both internal and external? Did Obasanjo borrow before taking Nigeria from the verge of deep recession to unprecedented economic prosperity within a short period of time? Rather than focus on Foreign Direct Investment you are saying that it doesn't matter where the money comes from, in your personal life can you do that?

FarahAideed:
What a huge lie ...5 percent from where ? What activities generated this phantom growth ? It's sad to see the NBS is now being forced to reel out fake statistics .... What did we export and what investments did we receive that warranted this growth?

Inflation levels are at an all time high , the Naira lost so much Value in this same quarter , Buhari borrowed more in the same quarter , insecurity reached an all time high in this same quarter , doctors went on strike in this same quarter but yet the NBS is reporting 5 percent growth.

This happened on the back of heavy borrowing by the government, not sustainable

This is not how to play the game Mr Wike.. This is too childish.
I totally believe that as a leader Secondus has been found wanting but to result to the courts will only worsen the crisis on ground.

Beancounter94:
1. Obasanjo got 66.7% of the debt forgiven. He did not pay off the 66.7, he paid off the remainder

2.Our forex needs have risen a lot since 2006

3. Even then we were still running a broke ads economy then. A lot of economists back then criticised the Obasanjo payoff.

4. We were back on debt by 2009.

5. We are in debt because ultimately we depend on revenue from goods whose prices are never at the level we want them to be.

6. Buhari is still a failure in that he has not redirected our economy from a oil dependent economy to a productive and industrial economy.

Thank you very much

1. Who worked for it? Buhari?
2. So? It has to! its called development, Birth rate keeps going up so it is normal
3. dose economists are the ones that have deceived Buhari to keep borrowing, we are using over 70% of our income to service dents if he had ot paid those debts how would Nigeria be surviving now?
4. That is Buhari's fault
5. This govt is totally lacks ideas that's all
6. i agree with this

Beancounter94:
When the price of what we sell falls below sustenance level...we get into debt.

Throw in low taxation level...and we get into debt.

Nigeria needs to be more productive, and also needs to stop spending money a-subsidizing, and improve taxation, and fight corruption.....then we would see some improvement.

APC on the other hand is waiting for oil prices to shoot up again...

The fact is, one cannot build a successful economy on selling resources...you got to use them to be prosperous.

Under Obasanjo oil price was $9 the highest it got to was $70 yet he paid off debts he inherited even with the low taxation. Oil price has been hovering above $50 for at least a year now why is Buhari still borrowing?

HandsomeHITLER:
As if he also didn't steal some.
I'm not saying he's wrong, but he's guilty all the same, just too old to be ashamed.
To me they're all guilty! Debt or Theft; the effect is the same!!!

What is he guilty of? Did he go about borrowing money allnover the world or did he not attract FDIs?

Stealing is a norm in Nigeria but despite stealing under OBJ did the economy not grow massively. Learn to separate stealing from incompetence.

How come the lie against Pastor Kumuyi never made the news! Suleiman is the only person who heard!!. Something is horribly off as far as this man is concerned.

Ayaaz:
I know the roots and history of Islam, do you?

To a small extent I do, but I can see the fruits!