REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!!!!!!

The longer God tarrys the more opportunities He is giving you/us to repent and choose life.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and in His Gospel and though shalt be save. The Gospel is this: Jesus Christ came into this world and died on the Christ for the sins of the whole world - He was buried and on the 3rd day He aroused and was seen by witnesses and He ascended into Heaven where He sits on the right hand of the Father. He will come again at the appointed to reconcile them that are His unto Himself. If you believe and repent of your sins and ask Jesus for forgiveness you shall be saved.

Seek ye the Lord while He may be found, call ye upon Him whilst He is near. Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isa 55


REPENT!!!

Frosbel,

You are right on point my brother!

The sad thing about it is that some of these said scoffers and mockers were actually church goers - even on this nairaland forum some of these scoffers and mockers once had the word in them. Satan however has snatched the word from them (Matt 13:19).

The message of the gospel is foolishness to these people because they do not understand:

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18

Further more the god of this age has blinded their eyes:

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (2 Cor 4:4)

But “How can we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?” (Heb 2:3)

frosbel,

Excellent scriptures. I could also add the following:

Matt 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

I have only been on this forum a short while but I have come to the conclusion that this is NOT a place to discuss the Christian faith or to seek edification. Since coming on here I have seen all manner of blasphemy and people who are not Christians or even religious jumping into threads decrying Christianity and castigating the posters. There are people who are not Christians who speak "dogmatically" about issues they are not qualified to speak on or even care about and this results in confusion rather than edification. I know there are a few "lights" in here trying to do the best they can by spreading the message of truth but without proper moderation by Christian moderators I think this is perhaps not the place for Christian fellowship. I wont be surprised if many come out and attack me for posting this but the truth needs to be said and for the genuine Christians on here perhaps we all should heed scriptures and come out from among them (unbelievers - the errant)[2 Cor 6:17] lest we become part-takers of their sins. God is not the author of confusion (1 Cor 14:33) and in spite of the posting rules people are flouting these at will without any recrimination from the so-called moderators which causes this forum to descend into utter confusion.

But what we see here is not surprising since the Spirit speaketh expressedly that these things should happen in the last days:

1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Tim 3)

Goshen360,

I tell you the truth it always amazes me how that people who claim to be Christians leave the New Covenant with its "better promises" to try and put themselves under the previous covenants to in order to claim those promises.

But now Jesus, our High Priest, has been given a ministry that is far superior to the old priesthood, for he is the one who mediates for us a far better covenant with God, based on better promises. (Heb 8:6)

Note also that it is possible for us to entertain angels unawares - the ordinary beggar on the street may be an angel. Think about it!

Don't forget to show hospitality to strangers, for some who have done this have entertained angels without realizing it! (Heb 13:2)

yeye4live:

so a maried man torching his wife s now a sin,did u read my topic wel man?

It is NOT written anywhere in scripture that a married man touching his wife is a sin. Perhaps you need to read the scripture again.

yeye4live:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i stil dont get u all, were i based my point is dat GOD said go in to this world n multiply den why wil pple cal dier self rev father n sis i am nt saying dey re stil seing d opposite sex dier in

I guess I am not sure what your point is really. Perhaps it is a sin for man to appropriate titles such as Rev Father etc to themselves because Jesus specifically instructed the Disciples and consequently the church not to seek to add titles to themselves (Matt 23:8-12). Now not everyone will procreate and produce offsprings because as we well know some women are barren and also some men may have problems which make them unable to impregnate a woman. So there are married couples in this world, though they may have the ability to have sex they cannot produce offsprings. For someone to take a vow of celibacy this should be by choice and it is NOT a sin if you choose not to marry. It is perhaps wrong for anyone to command another not to marry however if we look at these verses from 1 Tim 4:

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

So to reiterate the point the Lord said to Adam and Eve go into the world and multiply but this is not an instruction to everyone on the planet because some people make themselves eunuchs for the gospel, others are made eunuchs of men, and some were born that way.

Plappville,

I had stumbled across David C. Pack's writings some time back and he said something in an article then that puzzled me. I had that article saved in my Favourites since then. At that time when I found the article I was researching where was the true church of God today. Now Pack claims or implies that the RCG is the true church but what I found disturbing was the fact that he declared that it was God's intention to finance the church through the tithe. If you follow the below link and scroll to chapter 3 and keep scrolling to the section I copied and pasted below you will see what I mean. Now what do you say to this? Personally I say we should be careful to listen to what a "teacher" says and examine it against scripture because I believe his statement concerning the tithe is FALSE. The tithe in the new testament church is UNBIBLICAL except it be a voluntary gift.

(Excerpt) Financial Laws
I learned God’s principle of tithing (Hebrew means “tenthing”) on one’s income because “the tithe belongs to God” (Lev. 27:30). Also, in Malachi 3:8-10, God declares that He considers those who do not both pay Him His tithes and give Him His offerings to be “robbers”! I also learned that in these same verses God promised to “open the windows of heaven” and pour out tremendous blessings on those who were willing to “prove Him” regarding this promise—and that this is the way He finances His Work of preaching the gospel of the kingdom to the world and the warning message to the modern descendants of ancient Israel. I found that Christ affirmed the tithing law in Matthew 23:23, and that other places in the New Testament confirmed Christ’s words. (The booklet End All Your Financial Worries carefully explains these things.) And again, the true Church teaches the truth about tithing and the many scriptures supporting it.

http://rcg.org/books/thogtc.html

plappville:

God will not set confusion in his Children. Why should people who claim to be one in Christ be having a different understanding of the revelation? Anyway, take ur time and we pick up from then.

What you say is correct. But perhaps you need to watch the video again and compare my comments. The speaker did say within the first 12minutes (I didn't watch all of it) or so that the church referred to in the earlier verses of Rev 12 is physical Israel and then the focus moves to spiritual Israel. This is why I said in my last comment that if by church (the church which brought forth the male child) we are referring to Israel, which is indeed the first church, then I did not have a problem with that. So my view is in fact not at odds with the video but consistent with it.

East:

To add to Hutchie, and also to request for an explanation from the house.

1 Corinth 7:18-19, Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcisation is nothing. Keeping God's commandments is what counts.

Now was Paul saying here that if you are called while you are maybe single you should remain single etc?

I understand that whether you are rev sister or father etc, what matters is keeping God's commandments not d titles.

Waiting!

East,
Absolutely not. That is not what Paul was saying at all. He was talking about literal circumcission. Circumcission is nothing because it is the circumcission of the foreskin of your heart that really matters (De 10:16, Jer 4:4, Rom 2:29). If you read the previous verses he stated clearly that if you cannot contain your passions as a single person you should marry - let everyone be according to their own calling. He himself said that he had the power to lead about a wife but he personally chose not to (1 Cor 9:5).

To add to what Joagbaje said, Paul also said the following:

1 Cor 7
1Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that

I have often found it interesting how ministers can so easily deceive the flock using such scriptures as 1 Kings 17 during offering time. They encourage you to sow up to your last "seed" and then tell you to "speak to your seed" or "confess" over it and send you home saying the Lord will bless you. Yet this is not what Elijah did. God worked a miracle through Elijah there and then to ensure that neither the woman, her son or Elijah lacked within that period of time. How do modern day ministers or prophets compare to what the prophet Elijah did? Yet church people are so gullible to swallow everything their ministers push down their throats without applying any rational thought. It is the responsibility of pastors to feed the flock but instead many of them today feed of the flock such that they get so fat that they need private jets to carry them around.

The church needs to exercise discernment to identify true ministers from false ministers. And once we have identified the false ones we are to avoid them (Rom 16:17).

'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. (Lev 19:28)

The section of the sentence relating to the tatto marks have no relation to honoring the dead.

If the scripture intended to say do not do either of these things in honor of the dead it would have instead say:

"Do not cut your bodies for the dead OR put tattoo marks on yourselves for the dead". But this is not what it says. The emphasis of the scriptures was not to put any kind of mark in your body for any reason.

I am sure it must look very funny but the last Bible verse should read Titus 1:7 (Ti 1 :7). How on earth it changed to "Bosom 1:7" is beyond me.

The True Pastor taught this:

19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matt 6)

But unfortunately many have gone after the way of Balaam:

15Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; (2 Pet 2)

Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; (1 Tim 6:17) [unless some think that the pastor should be exempt from such admonitions)

1This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; (1 Tim 3)

Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseers--not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; (1 Pet 5:2)

Because an overseer is God's servant manager, he must be blameless. He must not be arrogant or irritable. He must not drink too much, be a violent person, or make money in shameful ways. (Tit 1:7)

These scriptures don’t seem to be in many peoples Bibles.

Acidosis:

Man, it is done in all churches. as you said, you went to the church, had it been you weren't there, would you had noticed this? It is from this same tithe that the church you attended was built, even the chair you sat did nt fall from heaven.

How do you know the money was from the tithe in this instance? Perhaps it was from simply freewill giving of however much the congregation decided in their own hearts to give? Please do not assume that every church collect tithes.

frosbel,

It is not just on Nairaland it is the world over as you well know. In the UK for example as I am sure you know there is an attack on Christianity and Christian freedoms almost daily led by the media.

But this just further confirms that Christianity is the truth, Why? Jesus said the following:

John 15:19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

John 17:14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.

mabell:

@poster,
stale gist my dear
you are only encouraged to give your way through your challenges or set backs and into your blessings
A christian that does not know what to eat for lunch should give his last out of that level.
the woman that fed elisha gave her supposed last meal for her and her son, did she die no
the king that sacrificed his son who should have reigned in his stead( thereby shortening his reign) won the battle against the children of God!
God is a God of principle, whatsoever you give, you will recieve

God gives blessings according His sovereign will and NOT on the basis of principles. It is mindless teachings such as you have stated that is sending so many people into deception.

Matt 6:26 says:
Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

If we follow such corrupt logic poor people would not be able to obtain the blessings of God but here is what scripture says:

"Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost. (Isa 55:1)

I haven't had a chance to look at the video yet but I will give it a go when I have a chance.

The interpretation that the woman is the church however is faulty. If the Male Child is Jesus, did the church give birth to Jesus or was it the other way around? If by "church" we mean the first church - the congregation of Israel - then I have no problem with that.

In Matt 24 Jesus makes it clear that no man knoweth the day nor the hour when the Son of man should put in His appearance. The Mayans did not predict the endtimes. There are charlatans out there however (some dressed up as scientists etc) who twist the Mayan calendar to arrive at a Mayan prophesy which they then use to fuel media hysteria and propaganda, with the help of the 2012 film and other documentaries. It wouldn't surprise me if the governments of the world are partly behind it because it is a useful ploy to destract the people from their impoverished state whilst themselves continue to share scarce benefits amongst themselves to maintain their lifestyles.

A word to the doubters however - Make no mistake for the world shall surely come to an end one day when you think not.

2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. (2 Pet 2)

The fact that there are people defrauding the church and bringing the truth into disrepute does not mean that the Bible and its messsage is not true. What we are seeing in church today is prophesy fulfilling. This is what Peter and others said would happen.

These false prophets in the church have flourished because of this:

For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. (2 Tim 4:3)

The fraud in the church must come to pass in these the last days. But,

1<<A Psalm of David.>> Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
2For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
3Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed. (Pslam 37)

Even from the time of ancient Israel, men were forbidden to put tattoos are marks on their bodies. To say then that Jesus has a tatoo would contradict Gods word.

'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. (Lev 19:28)

Lets look at parallel translations of Rev 19:16 to see if the verse actually meant the skin of His thigh:

And he has on his garment over his thigh the name written: “The King of Kings and The Lord of Power.” (Aramaic in plain English)


On his robe at his thigh was written this title: King of all kings and Lord of all lords. (NLT)

OmoPastor,

If Christians are to give tithes and first fruits etc, who should they give it to? Is it to their pastor or to the church (i.e., those who administer over the church). If this is your view then I think you are making the assumption that if people do not give especially "sacrificially" to the church structure then they are not giving at all. Perhaps they are giving where the needs are greatest? Have you considered that?

James 1:27 defines what is pure religion as thus:

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

I do not however see any scripture which says that a born again Christian should give tithes and first fruits to the church. These are man-made doctrines to serve a man-made church structure that is far removed from the practices of the early church.

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (Matt 24:30)

Jesus said unto him, You have said so: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall you see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. (Matt 26:64)

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. (Dan 7:13)

In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. (Is 6:1)

55But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. (Acts 7)

17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. 20But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, 21Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. (Jude 1)

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. (2 Pet 3)

If Christ should come now, where will you spend your long eternity?

This is a question which formed the focal point of a sermon I heard so many years ago when I was a teenager and it is for all of us to consider seriously. You may quietly reflect and contemplate on this question in the stillness of your own quiet time as there is no need to respond directly to the post.

The Pagan's and the Aetheists and the other non-christians decry the message of the Gospel and they criticise Christians for holding to such beliefs. If you fall into this category let me ask you this: Do you know what happens or where you are going when you die? If you cannot answer this question then do not attack my beliefs. At the very least my faith gives me a hope - a hope that one day when I die and pass from this earth I may inherit eternal life at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Do you have a hope? Do you know what happens when you die?

I have seen where some have claimed that the woman of Revelations 12 is the Church but it does not follow from reading the entire passage. How can the woman be the Church if the scriptures say that the woman was about to give birth to a male child (who we know is Jesus). Did the Church give birth to Jesus? The church would have had to be in existence before the first advent of Jesus Christ. Only futurists can claim that the woman is Jesus. Note that the dragon stood before the woman to devour her child after he was born but the child was caught up to God's throne. Following this event the dragon cast a flood after the woman and sought to make war with the remnant of her seed who had the testimony of Jesus Christ. How can the dragon make war with the remnant of the church - where would the rest of the church be? Does it even make sense to say "the remnant of the church who had the testimony of Jesus Christ?" I think not.

frosbel,

I agree that scriptures say many anti-christs have gone out into the world. But if you look back at the passage of John we see that the people were looking for a single anti-christs. This singular anti-christ is equated to the man of sin the son of perdition. I believe he is synonymous with the chief spokesman of the beast kingdom in Rev 13:

5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

The beast we know is an amalgamation of nations but the mouth represents a spokesman (like a world president?).

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Nations and kingdoms are represented by a king or an head of state who speaks directly on behalf of the whole nation.


8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

There is a beast that rises out of the bottomless pit and his name is Abaddon or Appolyon.

Perhaps Gog and Magog are not as mysterious as some make out. Gog is of the land of Magog, and is the chief prince of Tubal and Meshech according to Ez 38:2, Ez 39:1

Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

So who are Meshech and Tubal? We need to return to the table of Nations in Gen 10 to find out:

Genesis 10:2 The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech and Tiras (1 Chr 1:5)

So we see that Meshech and Tubal are the offsprings of Japheth - note Japheth by interpretation of the Bible would be the father of the European peoples. They formed the Gentile race. The misconception today though is that those who are not Jews are classed as Gentiles which is supposed to be synonymous to heathen. This is not true. At the time of Jesus the Gentiles were the Greeks, Romans etc. The Samaritans and the Canaanites were not called Gentiles even though they were not Jews.

Proo212,

If you read my post again you will note where I said the muslims are anti-christ in a sense. But I was attempting to show that the anti-christ that John was talking about came out of the Christian faith though they were not really of the faith.

Strong's Concordance says this of the greek word antichristos: "antichrist, either one who puts himself in the place of, or the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah"

So the anti-christ is an enemy of Christ but also puts himself in place of Christ.

Many in Christendom have drawn the conclusion that Islam or the Quran is the 666. But this does not stand up to Biblical test (and I am not here to defend Islam either). One of the things I have come to learn is that it is anti-Islam for a man to claim to be God - this is perhaps one of the reasons why they deny the Sonship of Jesus claiming instead that He is merely a prophet. But putting that aside lets look at what 2 Thess 4 says:

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

What is the temple of God? Is it a future rebuilt Jewish temple? or is it the New Testament church?

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? (1 Cor 3:16, see also 2 Cor 6:16).

The temple of God is the new church so the man of sin will sit in the loftiest position in the church declaring himself to be God. How could a muslim accomplish this? The muslims may be anti-christ in a sense but John defines for us who the anti-christs are:

18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (1 John 2)

They went out from the church but they were not really of the church.

To the original poster. I do not think it is wrong "in principle" to accept food from people of other cultures but scripture does warn us not to eat anything offered up to idols.

You must abstain from eating food offered to idols, from consuming blood or the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality. If you do this, you will do well. Farewell." Acts 15:29