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Hello Kenyans in the house, i'd like you guys to meet our west African sibblings (the Ghanaians).

The Ghanaians have also tried in developing their cultural attires too, even though not up to their big brother Nigeria but at least far better than countries like Kenya that absolutely have no presentable culture whatsoever other than animal blood drinking and worshipping Indians.

We west Africans rock! We are the true Africans who are never ashamed of being who we are.

Kenyanstar:
Bravo, bravo...... Since Nigerians are leading in "culture" than even the Chinese or Japanese i guess you would also be among the first world countries. Its sad that all the manufacturing is done China, poor brainwashed Nigerians.

Nigeria still has more industries than most African countries including Kenya and If not your ignorance, you would know that most of these cultural attires are maufactured in Nigeria from our textile industries.

Hbuyosh:
Granted, yours is one of the most influential cultures in Africa. U beat us in that aspect!

Well done for being sincere. At least there is a reasonable Kenyan afterall.
All Africans can attest to the fact that the Nigerian culture is superior and the best representing Black Africa.

MtuMsuper:
Yup, indeed. I have met an afro Colombian, a white Jamaican and a Romanian Gypsy. All perfect citizens of their countries. Nigeria seems to be like a punishment posting for many expatriates to Africa, while Nairobi and joburg seem overwhelmingly favoured.
Someone mentioned that nigerians are so hilarious they go to a foreign land, meet a nigerian selling roast corn by the roadside, and they immediately proclaim to the folks back home that they now control the food industry there. Effing hilarious.

Ignorance at it's peak.
Most whites and foreigners come to Kenya for charity works and to see the country with Africa's largest and most numerous slums.

For Nigeria, it is different, foreigners adore our amazing culture and many cannot go back to their countries without marrying a Nigerian and becoming part of the giant and pride of Africa!

PissedYagami:
Btw i saw how they travel in Nigeria. this is world class transport system you guys

Keep deluding yourself by posting 1999 pictures of Lagos. This is now 2016 and Lagos has really changed.

Kenya is a country filled with nothing but majority slum dwellers and animal blood drinking savages, the few wealthy peeps there living modern lives are the Indian minorities who control the wealth of the country. How terrible.

Nigeria the pride of black Africa with such amazing culture and people.

PissedYagami:
This one is emotional af.

Dear, just whisper it to my ear that you are jealous of Nigerians and i promise i won't tell .
Little savage Kenyans comparing themselves with the pride of the black race and Africa.

Nigerian culture is so influential that all foreigners, white, Indian, Arab or whatever have to represent Nigerian culture whenever they intermarry us.

I wonder why all these cultureless, Ugly, Indian worshiping Kenyans will just insist on measuring shoulders with true culturally advanced and superior Africans like Nigerians.
Most Kenyans do not know who they are, black, Indian or white? Identity crisis, but we Nigerians know who we are and are highly proud.

Back to culture. , cos it's obvious Kenya has nothing to offer other than slums filled with foreign humanitarian groups and tourists.

Nigeria has developed it's culture to become the most beautiful and representable in Africa while Kenyans are still in the forests drinking Animal blood. What a shame, no wonder Kenyan men look so ugly unlike my handsome Nigerian men.

PissedYagami:
Those are Maasais, not every Kenyan. i am sure you are intelligent enough to understand that Hausas dont represent Nigeria as a whole

But u guys all agreed that animal blood tastes good, so what else do u want me to conclude? Be proud of your heritage and own up pls, just as we Nigerians are proud of our own culture of beautiful clothes.

NairobiWalker:
You mean those places are better than Kibera in photo below? Girl, you're very useless. Look at Kibera below and compare it with your Ajegunle

Once an animal blood drinker always a blood drinker.

So that is how Kibera looks and it is officially the largest slum in Africa? and it also attracts so many foreigners, foreign aids and humanitarian groups and even tourists?

Well, let me agree that the whole of Kibera looks like this for the sake that am talking to an animal vampire. What abt Mathare, Mukuru, Kawangware, Kogorocho and others?

Go and do what you do best. 'Animal vampire-ism'. U little savage.

gallivant:
You are a pathetic woman with low intelligence. You are not worth replying to.

Animal Blood drinking savage kenyans now have an opinion.
Go and do what u do best.

68816419:
SOURCE: Wikipedia,UN-habitat,World bank,Amnesty international (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_slums_in_Kenya, https://www.amnesty.nl/sites/default/files/public/rap_kenia_the_unseen_majority.pdf,http://unhabitat.org/gltn-visits-mathare-slum-in-nairobi/)

Funny guys,keep deluding your selves (New pictures of kibera bellow)....beside mathare is even bigger than kibera and no body is talikng about it why, Also their other slums bigger than Kibera?

mathare

Mathare is a collection of slums in Nairobi, Kenya with a population of approximately 500,000 people; the population of Mathare Valley alone, the oldest of the slums that make up Mathare, is 180,000 people. Mathare is the home of football team Mathare United of the MYSA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathare

new kibera 2016
new kibera 2016
mathare slum (over 500000 people )

Kawangware slum (300000 people )
According to the 2009 Kenya Population and Housing Census, Kawangware's population [color=#550000]was 133,286 people at this time[/color]. It is estimated that 65% of the population are children and youths. Most inhabitants live on less than $1 (although they earn in shillings) a day and unemployment is high; many are self-employed traders. There is a diversity of ethnic backgrounds

Mukuru (bigger than kibera what!!!!! ) kenya is shit i swear !!!!!

Mukuru is one of the biggest slum in Nairobi, its estimated to be habitat of about 700,000 people in the different village in the slums, it stretches along the Nairobi Ngong river, situated on waste lands in the industrial area of the city between the Outer Ring Road and the North Airport Road and mombasa road, in three different constituencies Embakasi south, Makadara and Starehe constituencies. Mukuru have villages Mukuru kwa Reuben, Mukuru kwa Njenga, Sinai, Paradise, Jamaica, Kingstone, Mariguini, Futata Nyayo and Kayaba.

Korogocho

Korogocho is one of the largest slum neighbourhoods of Nairobi, Kenya. Home to 150,000 to 200,000 people pressed into 1.5 square kilometres, northeast of the city centre, Korogocho was founded as a shanty town on the then outskirts of the city.[1][2]

In 2009 it was estimated to be the fourth largest slum in Nairobi, after Kibera, Mathare Valley and Mukuru kwa Njenga.

calculation: Korogocho (200000)+Mukuru (500000)+Kawangware(300000)+mathare (600000)+ kibera(600000)+Kiambiu(60000)+others{Huruma,Majengo, Matopeni,Pumwani,Nyalenda........(740000= 3millions people leaving ins slums

3.millions(slums dwellers -Total population (3.36 million)= 336000 out of slums

conclution : 92% of poulation leaves in slums while only 8% leaves moderately ...wow

last picture mathare slums world 5th biggest slum (http://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/articles/2016/10/17/1196919.jpg?itok=eTnZslqj)

Nairobi is nothing but a waste! What a terrible city and a disaster where the overwhelming majority live in slums.

Infact i really think we Nigerians have insulted ourselves so much for stooping to argue with these Kenyans.
Apart from the millions of people living in Nairobi slums, millions more live in forests and wildlife parks away from civilisation, just like the masais who drink animal blood in the forests till date.
Kenya is just too disgustingly terrible.

Religion and religious differences is just for the poor alone.

NairobiWalker:
Like I said before, what we consider slums elsewhere is what you consider normal housing and that's why you think you have no slums. All cities in the world have markets - having marketd is no excuse for being the dirtiest city in the world.

Yes, having a market is no excuse i agree but lack of sanitation is not enough reason to classify a place as a slum. You see those market areas in Onitsha, people do not live there, so they tend not to take sanitation in those places serious.
However, their state govt has really done a lot and i will show u pictures of the new sanitized Onitsha market.

One thing u must understand is that a full blown slum and a low income area are not the same thing, although they may look similar sometimes. A place, no matter how much sanitation it lacks, as long as most of the residents there have an acess to modern toilet facilities and a sewage, paved motorable roads, appartment styled houses built of proper concrete blocks or bricks, such place can never be classified as a slum.

Take a look at the so called Agegunle for yourself, it just cannot be compared to the likes of Kibera. See storey buildings, clear cut roads e.t.c, just that they are in bad conditions, however the current governor is doing a lot to repair their roads as u can see in the last picture.

Nairobi's slums are just too terrible, numerous and large in size and that is why they receive more world and foreign attention.

NairobiWalker:
Bariga slum....

You are just desperate.
The first picture is that of a refuse dump site and not where people live.
Can't u see the motorable and paved road in the second picture? All the residents in these places have access to modern toilet facilities and paved motorable roads.

These are what you call real slums like that of Kenya, where there are no motorable roads, modern toilet facilities, irregular houses wholly made of zincs and planks which attracts foreign aid and humanitatian groups and agencies.

NairobiWalker:
Agege slum

You are just desperate, show us the whole view of Agege slum and not just one area that lacks sanitation.
Can't u see how Kibera slum houses are?
Show us real rows and dozens of slum houses where people stay just like Kibera or Mathare.

NairobiWalker:
Welcome to Onitsha - the world's dirtiest and most polluted city.
Nigeria has 3 cities in the top 20, Kenya has non.

http://www..com/talk/topic,294844.0.html

Yes, Onitsha has a lot of dirty places because it has some of the largest markets in West Africa.
The market parts of the city only lacks sanitation, but other than that, it can never be called a slum.

AfroCircus:
You talking from a Utopia or something? Nairobi has its fair share of slums and the 60% people perceived as living in slums is inclusive of low income highrise Estates like pipeline, umoja, imara daima etc. Lagos is 66% slums

A small part of makoko was demolished and the folks protested all over. And makoko has got to be among the most worrying places to live in, a slum on top of a swampy sewage!

Please don't lie, I hate soiling other countries and unearthing hidden skeletons but such a huge lie after such blatant soiling can't go unanswered. here's a list of some slums there (won't give pictures unless prompted to

Makoko
Agege
Ajegunle
Amukoko
Badia
Bariga
Bodija
Ijeshatedo/Itire
Ilaje
Iwaya
Mushin
Oke-Offa Babasale
Somolu

I dare you to produce the pictures of slums in Nigeria if u really can.
All these places u are listing, i agree are low income areas but they are not slums because most of the houses you find in these places are made of blocks, bricks and concrete and are appartment styled houses with streets with motorable roads, sewages for each compounds and modern toilet facilities.

This is why apart from Makoko (which has been demolished), no other place in Lagos can be classified as a slum by the standard definition of a slum.

Prove that those places u mentioned are slums if truly you know what you claim!

iblawi:
IanSweet it's OK.

Please don't post too many pics of slums here. It will send a bad image of Africa to the world. The Kenyans are happy for what they have achieved so far. It's not easy selling tea and still come up with a nice city even though most of them stay in slums. It's just a starting point for them.

I know myself Nigeria is better but we don't sell tea. We sell sweet crude which generate a lot of money for us. This is why we can carry out far bigger project. Look at the transformation in Akwa Ibom and lagos from 2007 to 2015. Many other states like Calabar, Abuja, portharcourt and others were better than Lagos and Akwa ibom in terms of infrastructure. But today Lagos became a city all Nigerians now want to call home even though it's a Yoruba land. That is the big difference between us. We can make big changes within a very short time.

Yes, i think you are right.

Personally i have no issues with Kenyans but the way Kenyans brag and boast about Kenya and belittle Nigeria will make you think Kenya is really really advanced not knowing that they are just as terrible as most African countries or even worse.

Gosh, i can't imagine Nigeria's capital city ABUJA, the largest planned modern city in Africa with over 3 million inhabitants with the kind of slums Nairobi has.

Nairobi's slums are even more famous than the main city itself, well that's not surprising considering the large size and numbers of the slums.

Kenyans really need to learn from Nigeria what it takes to build a capital city to meet world standards.
Even Lagos city, the largest city in Africa (with about 20 million people) had only One slum Makoko which has now been demolished, but Nairobi that is not up to one quarter of Lagos has the largest and highest number of slums. What an abyssmal shame!

The worst part of all these is that u find the Indians who milk Kenya's rescources in the wealthiest neighbourhoods while the black majority languish in these kinds of dejected neighbourhoods and the same colonial Indians will be the people to brainwash my black brothers that skin colour does not matter.

O ye black man, who has bewitched you like this?

AfroCircus, Muafrika2, KenyanStar et al
Now i can see why Kenya atttacts so many tourists, seems like most of them just want to see what the largest slum (concentration of poverty) in Africa looks like.
With all the foreign aid, why are so many slums still in Nairobi?

I think all these Kenyans here PissedYagami, NairobiWalker e.t.c here are the biggest loosers in the world.
How can a capital city have these kinds of places? Not just one slum, not two, but dozens of them. Is there a government in that country at all?

Seriously, i think Nairobi is a disaster. It is the slum capital of the world. Why so much slums? Must every Kenyan live in Nairobi?

Litmus:
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Kenya

LoL, you are right. Kenya is all about white people and humanitarian groups helping poor black people. So sad!

More of Kenya

DerideGull:
Talk of ignorance, no human being is black or white. Color is not human.

Yes, perhaps the colonialists thought of that while looting and exploiting Black Africans and during the Aprtheid era too.

Muafrika2:
I feel you.

Speaking of which, you do know Fulanis are not indigenous to Nigeria. They are a collection of a mixed race of strangers that came to West Africa just a few hundred years ago (( Much later than the Arabs in East Africa ) and took over the beautiful cities made by the sweat of real black Nigerians. Then they, nomads who knew nothing of building cities, took over already built cities and claimed their glory.

So when will you and you people be leaving the black man's land to wherever it is that you people came from?

Hahahaha, Kenyans will not kill me with their ignorance.
Do u know that Fulfude (the native language of fulanis) is a sene-gambian language? And this has been the language of fulanis since their origin in futa djallon area of Senegal.
Fulanis are full negroids who originated from Senegal. The closest languages to fulani are wolof, Serer, Tukulor and other west African languages spoken by black africans.
Go and check fulani history well. They originated here in West Africa. It is even the hausas who are believed to have middle-eastern origin which some of their genes prove. The fulanis have pure African genes.

Besides, the fulanis conquered only the hausas. The yorubas, Edos, Bornus and other Nigerian tribes also had their ancient kingdoms and empires, some even stronger than the Sokoto caliphate.

This was the way Europeans came and met Nigerian tribes with cities not in forests and mountains like Kenyan tribes who were running all over butt-naaked.

Original undiluted Nigerian architecture from the Ancient city of Kano.
A historic city built 100% by Black Africans alone.
Can Kikuyus or Kalenjins or Luo ever boast something like this? @NairobiWalker & PissedYagami

Muafrika2:
Ancient houses were not roofed with iron sheets. Unless by ancient you mean 1900s

This is the aerial view of old lamu. More ancient than Ibadan; No rust

Ours were changed overtime. As Iron roofing came, people thought they were better and replaced them during colonial times.

Pls, if i want to see ancient Arabic architecture, i know the best places to find them in the middle east. Am not interested in that of Kenya.

NairobiWalker:
Very low intelligence indeed, I noticed that a long time ago. She doesn't even realize all ancient cities grew due to trade. Mombasa was started by a very strong coastal woman known as Mwana Mkisi - a Bantu. It grew mainly due to trade with mostly the Arabs. That's how cities grow. Kano grew due to trade with Arabs who brought Islam to West Africa too but she doesn't realize that. Very low intelligence.

This is thrash. Kano has always been one of the hausa city states even before Islam came through trade about 600 years ago. The Arabs never settled on our soil or built anything there, if not you would have seen their descendants here like you have in coastal Kenya.
Every single building u see in ancient Kano was built by the black people. Ignorance is bad.

PissedYagami:
It is not a cultural thing, people anywhere marry within their races or tribes. Thats why in Nigeria there are Igbos, Hausas etc. And no one is milking the other, actually if it was about milking then one tribe in Kenya should be blamed, and it is black. And Iansweets I must say you are one person with very low intelligence. I see it from your point of arguments. You are either self hating or very tribal or very racist. You should know the meaning of the word humanity. And I am sure there are at least 2 Indian Kenyans on this forum, defending Kenya. And all I see is bigotry and hate

Call me whatever you will but i am only reciprocating what people all over the world (including the Indians and whites whom you worship do). It is called 'protection of one's interests'.
The Europeans protected their collective interests and that is why they are where they are today. When the French, English, Portuguese and other Europeand were sharing Africa and Latin America amongst themselves for their selfish exploitation, where was their definition of 'humanity'?

I can never sit and watch one who is not one of my kind dominate and control my own people while shouting humanity. That's stupidity. Why don't the Indian and white settlers dominate the slums and poorer populations while you the blacks produce the richest people and you all echo 'humanity' at the same time?
Why must the black man be below at all times when the word 'humanity or equality' is echoed? Rubbish.

You black kenyans can be the foreigners' fools for all we care. We Nigerians can never and will never play such a role. We are too Afrocentric for us to allow some pale skinned fellows to come and dominate us on our own soil. They are very much welcomed to our land, but they must know they have their limits.

PissedYagami:
There are not many such. The Kikuyu or Luo or other tribes had very small populations btw, and they lived in smaller social gatherings. Same way, before the Romans molested Europe most of the Celtic, Franks, Germanic tribes, Slavic people did not have any form of an ancient city or shit. Before Greeeks no Rome, before Egypt no Rome and so on. Thats how it works, everything works by chance. And by acquired learning. The human race is a learning race. Why is there a technological boom now and it did not happen in 1500, acquired learning, people meet learn and so the exact same thing or better or in a way that suits them.

Since you believe this then why do u kenyans mock ancient Ibadan and Kano city sections? When u know that black kenyans never had something like that to themselves?