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Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 5:15pm On Mar 07, 2020
nsiba:

My dear I would have love you visited where Mary slessor lived the remainder of live, you would have met people or given books( hand written)who learnt under her majority women who the community disowned
That ibibios don't practice the Ekpe cult society is a fallacy, not the ITU/IBIONO I know

I am 100% Ibibio so you now know more about me and my anscestors , parent and grandparents than me or themundecided Please post a source and pictures of Ekpe ceremony that was done in Itu and Ibiono village U may have been confusing them with Akampa which is the neighboring LGA in Cross River State to Itu in the beginning of Akwa Ibom state. Unless you are confusing Ekpo masquerade secret society with Ekpe secret cult society.
What has Mary Slessor a Scottish missionary got to do with any of these groups shocked
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 4:26pm On Mar 07, 2020
Blackking98:

Lol. So you that is far away where ever you are knows better than me that is here in Cross river because you have access to Wikipedia. I don't have energy to argue, the majority will have their way and the minority will have their say at the end of the day.
No wonder you don't know the difference & especially that Ibibios Do Not practice Ekpe or same tradition and culture as Efik, except U are Oron, because U grew up in Calabar. I am not learning from wikipedia, I only use wikipedia as a basic summary. I grew up in Calabar and Abak, how do U think I learn how to speak Efik and Annang fluently If you Read this thread U will understand that I have deep knowledge and also research what am talking about from the elders, infact the indigenes of Efik, Oron & Annang actually came to back me up and congratulated me on finally explaining their cultures in details READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

nsiba:
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Sincerely the encyclopedia Britannica is one standard and acceptable reference materials, Wikipedia and nairaland are not...
Alright https://www.britannica.com/topic/ http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 3:50pm On Mar 07, 2020
mildflame:
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I am most impress with you interest in this but by using sentences, dance patterns and the above has no bearing in concluding that this group aren't of same ancestry
The English we speak and which is the official language in England varies from region to region
What is spoken in London, Manchester, Newcastle has it own accent, dialect and pronunciation, there are three distinct English which are southern, Midland and northern but these are all English
Even the dance pattern, food and music has it regional enclaves. Down here the Hausa spoken in sokoto, kano and Adamawa can be easily distinguished by Hausa's speakers yet same Hausa
The youruba spoken in badagry won't be understood by an Ikeja brought up Yoruba and the Yoruba spoken in ondo, okitipupa, shaki I bet u can't be understood by this individual if you don't speak the central youruba
Coming down home there is nothing different from what is spoken in Uruan, ITU that won't be comprehended in the entire calabar. The differences in Ibibio, efik and anang is just like southern, midland and northern England which are domicile in those regions. The accent, dialect and pronunciation doesn't make any of them different
What brought about this was the arrival of the Europeans and fortunately for any chief back then especially those from the riverine area, they ceased the opportunity and promoted themselves and their territory
While the obong who I will tell you can be traced to Uruan ancestry cannot be any further higher than the chiefs then in Uruan gained favors from the Europeans and consolidated his dominance, that can't be said of the other chiefs.
You can't tell me the Efiks own calabar, the Quas and Efuts have the core inner land while the Efiks dominate the riverine areas
Now the ibibios are using the oil wealth as Europeans to gain dominance. Forget the Ghana fables of anang being from Ghana or any group claiming to be above the other
Ibibio,(ekid, ibeno)efik Anang oron and ekoi( ejahgham) are of the same stock and origin .
Dialect is different from langauge, what U mean by Manchester & London dialect can be comperable to different Ibibio dialects like Itu, Etinan, Ibesikpo, Ikot Abasi etc; but not typical ones like Itumbonuso and Eket dialect, as those group speak Ibibio proper as a 2nd langauge because most can't fully understand their deep dialect. Which is why most think Eket is a separate group, not knowing that they're a subgroup of Ibibio. Aside from Oron & some Uruan who speak Efik as a 2nd language, only older Ibibios in AKS understand Efik because it was the official language of Cross River state b4 the creation of AKS in 1987. The younger Ibibios growing up in AKS cannot fully understand Efik langauge, only parts that are similar to Ibibio langauge. Both of those groups cannot understand Annang maybe 2-3words in a sentence, but none in AKS who isn't Annang can understand typical Annang dialects like Ukanafun, Ikot Ekpene, etc.. Annang has 3-4dialects that cannot be understood, even I that grew up in Abak(an Annang city who speak basic Annang or the most simple similar to Ibibio Annang); I have to per extreme serious attention to some sentences & rehearse it in my mind to understand those deeper typical dialects.
Again per attention to these sentence structures How many words are similar in all 3langauges?
English:-1) My house is were we all are
Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie.(basic Annang), Ilunk Ila ke file achid lie(Ukanafun Annang dialect)
Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba.
Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu.

But I am sure that if U wrote down Manchseter and London sentence there won't be any differences except a tiny difference at the end or begining of 2words due to the different pronounciation. Now read the Ukanafun dialect doesn't the almost 2words that seem similar to Ibibio now completely different How can any Efik or Ibibio who hasn't live in Annang area understand that undecided

Comparism to Spanish, Portugeuse, French and Italian in greeting How are You?
(die pronounce as Dear) Annang: Atie die? (Pronouced as) Atie lie? Ibibio: Aba die? Efik: Etie didie? Oron: Sala Digie(not sure about spelling)
Spanish: Cómo estás? French: Comment ça va? Italian : Come sta ? Portuguese_ Como você está
So You can see that Efik and Ibibio and Annang are just like Spanish, Portuguese and Italian languages


As for Ejagham langauge https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ekoi and Their Culture including Efik; http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html (did U see Ibibio or Annang mention there
So where did Annang get their name Y are their traditional beliefs completely different from that of Ibibios and Efik undecided Even a Ghanian commented on This Annang video on youtube that it was similar to 1 minority Ghanian group (sefwi)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Z3Bj-WVy0
Beams of cedar Cedar
3 months ago
This is sefwi dance too
Annang https://www.pulse.ng/lifestyle/food-travel/annang-a-brief-walk-into-the-history-belief-and-economy-of-one-of-africas-wisest/svp8s38
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 2:00pm On Mar 07, 2020
MelesZenawi:



Behold a new nation that is not interested in Niger delta Republic



Una no go kill. Me for nairaland
There is no new nation forget about what U have been reading on nairaland by most Akwa Ibomites who have never lived in or know much about AKS. I am talking about what actual Ibibios who live in Akwa Ibom state think about. Despite what U and Beachside believe Ibibio nation/IbibioStateUnion is not new, it's actually much older than Biafra undecided https://www.jstor.org/stable/485085?seq=1
https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/1687277 http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-nr89005509/
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 1:47pm On Mar 07, 2020
Beachside:
It doesn't matter if Efik origin is Yoruba,Ashanti or Uruan ,or whatever that means . Akwa ibom is not Cross river. Your allegiance is to Akwa ibom . Efik /Calabar should be none of your business. Like you bragged ,there's no such thing as Akwacross . akwa ibom is now Dubai and have all the oil ,so go there and worry about there. Don't worry about the Calabar and cross river.
I have concrete reasons for supporting denial of the akwa ibom judge. I don't care about the crowd. My new feeling is that all Akwa Ibom should be expelled from Cross river.
Ogoja should be given a state if they want it .And I wanted Southern Cross river (Calabar,Odukpani,Biase,Akampka,Akpabuyo) to merge with Akwa ibom ,but now to aspire for a state which will be Calabar city-state. You don't need oil to build an organized society. You are not from the Calabar or Cross river,it should be none of your business. Like ibibiogrl said,she does not care about bakkassi plight because it's not ibibio land. i'm sure you do not care about that and also do not care about Calabar's progress or Calabar seaport or the 79 oil wells forfeited to Akwa ibom.

You and the other clowns said "There's no such things akwacross","akwa ibom is dubai now " etc. Yet there are thousands of people from akwa ibom living in cross river ,but there's not up to 200 people from cross river living in Aka ibom. And you're salty about akwa ibom judge being denied.
Do you know the meaning of national interest? That's why Naturalized US citizens can't be president or any key positions whether raised in the US from 1 year old. .
For now, Akwa ibom state and cross river state of Nigeria are rivals . However;Efik,ibibio,anang Oron ,Ejagham,eket are one ethnicity. Unless Akwa ibom and southern Cross river merge ,they are rivals for now .
State is not created due to landmass but population angry Why would Cross River state need to rejoin Akwa Ibom state again Do U know how U sound shocked Thats similar to U saying Canada need to me merge back with USA undecided

The person U replied to was talking about this garbage u spewed below here & U responded with More Garbage shocked
Beachside:
A united and progressive Calabar (Akwacross) is preferred ,but for now I feel Akwa ibom can not be trusted. They think they have it all just due to baseless and unsustainable tangible development and 90 percent offshore oil which Uyo and Ikot ekepene have none of . They breed like rabbits and multiply poverty everywhere ,and they are not looking to unite,assimilate or accept Efik Calabarian methods as the standard and official.
I support denial of the Akwa ibom judge and the appointment of the judge as long as he is from Cross river. that's why there should be ID database to separate wheat from chaff.
On another thread, an akwa ibom individual was bragging that he was born and raised in calabar and ibibio will take over. His Allegiance is to Akwa ibom ,not cross river.
I am American born and raised and mixed race and I qualify to be Governor of Cross river than that guy . it's about roots ,not born and raised.
I don't care if an individual was born and lived ,school and worked all his life in Calabar, you are not from there and should be expelled if you do not pay allegiance to Calabar methods.
There will be no seaport at Akwa ibom within the next 30 years . The only seaport on plan within the next 4 years is the Calabar seaport at Akpabuyo which will serve the entire cross river and the Greater Calabar area including Akwa ibom.
Apart from English ,Efik is the standard and official language of the Cross river and Akwa ibom ,and is in the process of being registered by google.
If Akwa ibom does not agree with these methods, all akwa ibom people should be expelled from cross river and a border wall built., all other mthods will be implemented to punish Akwa ibom forever.
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 1:17pm On Mar 07, 2020
Nowenuse:


Pls I have a question for you and Ibibiogrl.

Are Ejagham people also considered as Atam too? Considering the fact that also have a large population in Cross River south?

Is it also true that Ejagham has the largest population in Cross River State?

Is it also true that Ejagham is related to Efik/Ibibio in language and culture?
Blackking98:
yes they are similar, they are the originators of the nsibidi that we Akwa ibomites/efiks used, they also play ekpe,bear the same names with the efiks to a certain point but we do not understand their language, atleast 65% of akampa people speak ibibio/Efik as their second language, infact during my 100lvl, our faculty president spoke ibibio most times until I discovered he was actually from akampa, all my coursemates from akampa spoke Efik/ibibio fluently, but the ejagahms in etung and ikom aren't as close to us like their brothers in akampa and always tend to side with the atam people. So it's complicated
Ejagham has got nothing to do with Ibibio undecidedThey are partly Cameroonians, same as Efiks. Also Ibibios Do Not Practice Ekpe (Uruan is the only 1LGA in Akwa Ibom State made up of Ibibios that practice Ekpe, because they hosted Efiks for some Centuries and adopted a lot of Efik tradition & cultures) Oronation made up of 5LGA are the only legit ethnic group in AKS who practice Ekpe, and all other tradition and cultures practice by Efik and Ejaghams etc, also they all migrated through Cameroon. There is Nothing like Efik/Ibibio language angry There is Efik, Ibibio, Oron languages, just like there are Italian, Spanish, French etc.. Ejagham language is semi-bantoid and has no similiarity to those other languages.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagham_language
If any Ejagham speaks Ibibio might be due to the large population of Ibibios living in CRS, that those Ejagham learn from.
Nowenuse:

For a lady, I really admire your knowledge and courage about your people, please keep it up.
However, let me correct you on some mistakes.
1) The differences between Ibibios, Efiks, Anangs and Orons cannot be compared to that of Spanish, Italian & French, rather it is more like the difference between Castillia, Galicia, Andalusia & Catalonia..
What is officially known as Spanish is CASTILLIAN.... Galicians, Andalusians, Catalans e.t.c speak very different languages/dialects and have different cultures, dressing and food from Spanish (Castillian)...
However, all these group of people remain under one Spanish nationality and identity except the Catalans who are very desperate to break out.

The Italians you are calling as one identity... Do you know the strong factions, divisions and bitterness that exists within them? Infact, not until 100-200 years ago, There was no lingua franca (official dialect) in Italy... Every region of Italy spoke an entirely different language, practice different traditions, values, food, farming e.t.c. Some don't even see eye to eye grin... Till now the divisions are still strong, but it has reduced unlike before.


2) Who told you that all the Igbo/Yoruba subgroups only speak different languages but have the same culture? The cultures are related, but they are not the same!

Do you think all Igbo/Yoruba subgroups have the same societal values, deities, dressing, food, masquerades, society cults, festivals e.t.c? If this is what you think, then you are very very wrong.

Just like someone told you above, before colonialism, the identity of Igbo & Yoruba only applied to a small fraction of what is today known as Igbo/Yoruba.
The British were the ones who classified all similar peoples under the Igbo/ Yoruba tag. 150 years ago, Ijebu, Awori, Egba, Ekiti, Okun people never addressed or saw themselves as Yoruba people.... The Yoruba identity was meant for Oyo people alone... Same with the Igbos.

The Hausas through Danfodio's fulani conquest were the only ones who were already united before the British came.
I don't Have the Time to Repeat lessons and Explanation that was already given 9years ago undecided This is not same as Igbo/Ikwerre denial war.
Despite the different dialects of same languages, there's not much differences in beliefs, tradition & cultures of Igbo and Yoruba groups as compared to Efiks, Ibibios & Annangs. This was confirmed by the Yorubas and Igbos themselves when someone actually asked these questions, instead of Ignorantly stating bogus personal opinions as Fact angry You can Read and argue with those posters that its not so, but the actually backup their claims with articles of history. READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

Nowenuse:

No you are wrong... What beachside is saying is the way Okrikas, Kalabaris, Ibanis, Ogbias, Epies, Engennis, Arogbos, Nembes, Izons e.t.c all unite themselves under one umbrella term (IJAW) even though they speak entirely different languages and have different cultures, food, dressings and customs!
Arogbos & Apois in Ondo state still identify as Ijaws even though Arogbo people speak Yoruba as a 2nd language, while Apoi have completely switched to Yoruba as their mother tongue.
Same way most Ibani people in Bonny & Opobo have switched to Igbo as their mother tongue, but still identify as Ijaws.
U cannot compare Ijaw groups becos they always abandon their cultures & adopt their host cultures and traditions, even they Obolo in Akwa Ibom state have adopted lots of Ibibio traditions, that many people in this thread were arguing that they amongst the Ibibio,Efik, Annang groups. If not that their other half is in River state with other Ijaw people, am sure the Obolo in AKS would've completely become Ibibio. It's just recently that most of these Ijaw groups despite abandoning their original tradition have begun to choose Ijaw as their Origin.
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 11:54am On Mar 05, 2020
Beachside:
The blackking98 kingkong baboon has nothing to say about this .


people like Beachside always included Igbos in the umbrella term of Efik/Ibibio etc.
What do you mean by that?
Meaning someone who reasoned like U but was smarter and decided to ask the question about the differences despite his conviction that they were all the same including Igbo. I mean Pleep.
Beachside:
^^She already has her mind made up . Like most Nigerians ,she think there's 400 or 1000 ethnic groups or tribes in Nigeria. She does not know there's only 16 ethnicity in Nigeria.
She thinks I don't know the original name of Calabar or understand Efik ,Anang,ibibio,or unaware there's variety within those dialects. She does not understand what I mean by an umbrella term "Calabar/Calabarians " for the ethnic group which consist of Efik,Ibibio,anang andOron,eket . She thinks ibibio ,annang ,Efik,Eket and Oron are distinct ethnic groups instead of communities /dialects of an ethnic group which has no umbrella term. She does not know that the names Igbo,Yoruba etc. are recently coined umbrella terms for related communities and dialects just like Calabar/Akwacross(Efik,Oron,ibibio,Oron,Eket) Efik dialect is the official and standard Calabarian/Akwacross language which is in the process of being registered by Google . just as Onitsha dialect and a bit of Ohuhu (umuahia dialects) is the standard and official Igbo language.
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 11:34am On Mar 05, 2020
AmuDimpka:

They are not distinct it is just dialectical differences of same language group

They should unite. One thing about Niger Delta is that every village wants to be a tribe or ethic group...
We in Akwa Ibom state specifically Ibibionation don't care about Biafra or Niger Delta. We are and will always be our own nation representing our culture and values.
As u are defending Beachside now, don't complain again and call him ignorant when he labels ur group in the same manner. undecided


I think there should be cultural exchanges and have one cultural body like Igbo have Ọhaneze , the Yoruba have Afenifere while the Hausa have Arewa
AkwaCross group is a huge group they can come together and even have a central language it's possible
In Igbo land we have over 20 dialects from Isobo to Anambra from Ikwerre to Nkwerre , from Asaba to Enugu but there is a central Igbo that all can key into and understand
Same with Yoruba, they have egba dialect, Ijebu , kabba, Okun , Ekiti dialect but the central dialect is Lagos type of Yoruba
While Kano Hausa is the central dialect of Hausa
The Akwa Ibom Cross River must find a middle ground

It's not the same because we have different cultures and beliefs, similar to Ibibio and Igbos, only our langauges are similar but not tradition and cultures.

AmuDimpka:

Seriously an average Igbo doesn't know the different between iron, bakassi, efik , Ibibio, Annang etc...we see them as one so...why do they want to divide themselves. They should be reaching out the way Igbo are reaching out to Igbo in places like Middle belt and South South. We see ourselves as one and that is what I expect the efik to be doing
Yes U know because people like Beachside always included Igbos in the umbrella term of Efik/Ibibio etc.. Infact another like him created a thread to ask that question in details, angry https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people
AmuDimpka:

They are not distinct it is just dialectical differences of same language group
If U don't know the differences Y don't U investigate and learn here on nairaland Please don't compare your Ikwere/Igbo war to us, because it is not the same situation. READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 8:12am On Mar 05, 2020
Beachside:
76 oil wells at Bakassi given to Akwa Ibom. And you posted on another thread that Ibeno/obolo are part of Ijaw .
Arochuwku captured and traded other Igbo communities just as Efik did same to other Efik/bibio,Calabar or Akwacross communities.
You said akwacross name was coined for movies . why wasn't it called akwaabia or riversakwa? why Akwacross?
Because they were not trying to market the movies to Igbos or Abia state, if not they would've included Igbo speaking characters in their native movies. I said Obolo were part of Ijaw not Ibeno.
Bakassi is part of Efik/Oron lands those 2groups are related and don't really see themselves as much different, except the water that separates them. Maybe U can convinced Oron to Join Cross River and they will gladly joined their Efik relatives there and bring those oil wells back to Cross River state.

Again Beachside
The people of Uruan were said to have given them the name "Efik" deriving from a verb meaning to press or oppress, since they were alleged to be aggressive.[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efik_people
And that was from their friendliest Ibibio host group who till today claim to be related to them and they even share cultures and traditions, yet calling them Oppressive undecided
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 7:48am On Mar 05, 2020
Beachside:
Show me where I said ibibio and Annang are subgroups of Efik or ever split from Efik?

Beachside post=87145908:
Some people think because they got a new artificial state a few days ago,they are different from Calabar and can do what they like. Such behavior is why the akwacross people are not united and considered weak and docile. If Oron ,Eket or annag get a new Mangrove and Itai states ,they too would follow the same path of more division . what sense does that make ?
Efik Calabar is the standard and official language.I think it should be compulsory in all cross river and akwa ibom schools. Efficient assimilation and propagation methods would go a long way.
There's record of Calabar kingship (Obong of Calabar) up to 850 years ago. All progressive ethnic nations on earth like Japan,Tswana land(Botswana),Netherlands,South Korea,etc. unite and accept the standard methods , only fools who got new state a few days ago are rebellious and chose the path of foolishness because they have large population. That's why akwacross people are viewed as weak and docile.

It's a shame the Calabarians efik/ibibio akwacross are so divisive. Igbo is an umbrella term for groups of related dialects just as Cakabar or Akwacross or efik ibibio is an umbrela term for groups of related dialects.
Saying Ibibio girl or Annang girl is similar to saying Ngwa girl or Onicha girl or Ijebu girl or Egba girl.
On your profile pic, you have the words "CALABAR GIRL", what's that?
Notice I said in my quote don't forget Ibibiogirl? Meaning Calabar girl(Efik) is completely different from Ibibio girl.

They problem is that U refused to respect these groups tradition and cultures. Making them to come around insulting each other undecided I gave u a thread to read to learn about their histories, but U Refuse. If U wrote Eket-ibibio, u will not cause any commotion or receive any insult. Because despite speaking different dialects, Eket practice the same cultures and tradional beliefs as Ibibio, thereby they are considered a subgroup of ibibio. Same with Oron/Efik despite being in different states. Again there's nothing like AkwaCross and absolutely nothing like Calabarians angry What u are writing is similar to forcing Ijaw to become Igbo and abandon all their tradition and histories and ancient beliefs and adopt the Igbo cultures just because their lands are close together, so that they can become one group under a single umbrella.

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Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 7:03am On Mar 05, 2020
quentin06:


with respect to both of your the dialects are not entirely similar, there are differences in them.

also the cultures of the people involved are different, cross river may have a larger land mass, but akwaibom has the greater population, they re daring, industrious and travel out to other states, cross riverians are conservative on the other hand, thats why they lose their slots to akwaibomites even at the federal level.
Tell that to the Ignorant educated fool Beachside who has been arguing that Ibibios and Annangs are a subgroup who split from Efik What has 850 year rule of an Efik king in Efik kingdom got to do with Ibibios who have been inhabitant of their present land for 10000's of years undecided

AmuDimpka:


Your stupidity is legendary.... For you to say Igbo is a recent term...do you think that we are like you ..the word Igbo means ancient that is why we call ourselves NdiGboo (shortened Ndị Igbo ) meaning the ones that are ancient

It's only in Igbo land that you see people bearing the names of their town like igbokwe, Nwosu Igbo, igboma , igbodike , Nwaigbo


It's only in Igbo land that you have towns Igbo Igbo land cardinal points bearing Igbo to show they are Igbo irrespective of the dialect
In the Igbo north (Enugu axis ) we have Igbo Etiti
In South the rivers we have Ọbigbo
In central we have Igbo Ukwu ( Anambra )
In West have Igbuzor (Delta State ) and Akwukwu Igbo


Igbo have been in existence (independently for centuries and these independent clans identify themselves as Igbo for centuries !)

Even the Igbo at the fringes of cross river (Isobo) and the ones at fringes of AKS identify themselves as Igbo for centuries


I think that what is worrying you is minority mentality..where every clan is a nation....why don't you guys with Efik, Annang etc pull your resources together and form a stronger block ....it's because of this stupidity that you allowed then to give out bakassi without even a fight (bunch of cowards ) both Efiks, Annangs, Ibibio etc should be ashamed of that bakkasi and also should be ashamed for the low development in their region...

Leave Igbo alone, they are far ahead and they want their country which they don't seem to invite you guys ! From the look of things !

Put your house in order
Am glad you have answered for your people, because some of your brothers were supporting Beachside, probably why he felt bold enough to spread his ignorance to your side & now maybe they will understand how Ridiculous he sounds shocked
Also Bakassi has got nothing to do with Ibibios and Annangs, its's far out of our territory and so we don't claim foreign lands. Bakassi is Efik-Oron land.
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 6:39am On Mar 05, 2020
densiks:


There are some points raised in the mixed write ups that are inconsistent with facts and accurate historical records.

My intention is not to argue but to deepen the conversation if necessary on nairaland or other platforms.

I have a relative who is married to someone from eastern obolo,so when I write about their culture,I speak from first hand knowledge and I understand that culture includes but is not limited to marital rites,food and socio-economic practices hence the emphasis on similarly of culture.

I have previously sought expert information from established linguists who studied ibibio/Efik language and it is established that a wider reference of the groupings havevthe same root language but dialectical differences.

I am ibibio by grouping and I appreciate some of the points captured in the posts you put up but I must point out that some of the information there are either inaccurate or written by people with a limited knowledge of the original history and evolving practices amongst the various groupings.

It is heartwarming to know you love your people and you like to identify with their rich history and culture.

Kudos eyeneka.
Do you know that Obolo is split into 2parts? Half is in Rivers state and the other half is in Akwa Ibom state;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obolo_people
I had previously stated that I grew up in Calabar and Abak, my maternal grandfather grew up from childhood in Efikland. So my mom was partly raised in Efik culture, do you know that there are typical Efik names from their market days? So I am not just speaking without investigation or arguing for arguement sake. How did you think I learned how to speak both Efik and Annang languages besides my native Ibibio fluently
If U Read the thread I gave you, u will see that many natives Annangs and Efiks had confirmed and also given their input.
If you truly want to learn about all these groups in details U better READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

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Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 5:56am On Mar 05, 2020
AtaniWarrior:


Akpo Akpo. Okay I can definitely see that. I’m a direct descendant of the original Ibibio/Efik of Arochukwu and I have been learning more about the various ethnic groups of present day Akwa Ibom and Cross River States over the years. I appreciate your contributions to Nairaland. I am learning a lot.
wink Glad to teach and appreciate your willingness to learn, and not just state ignorance fact as the truth like some here.
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 4:01am On Mar 05, 2020
Beachside:
I support the denial of the akwa ibom judge , and I think all Akwa ibom people should be expelled from Cross river because of divisive Akwa ibom people like you and the others on the first and second page saying there's no such thing as Akwacross and that Efik ibibio,Oron anang are not one . All your posts on nairaland are concentrated on how ibibio is different from Efik and are not one .
All my post on all three accounts I've ever had has always been about unity ,but I've had enough now..
I think all the anger should be directed at you guys who think there's no such thing as Akwacross and they are not one . If they are not one , why are you salty about judge being denied ?
Cross river is 3 times larger than Akwa ibom. Cross river lost 79 oil wells to Akwa ibom. Akwa ibom receives $55 million dollars per month while Cross river receives $9 million dollars per month. There are thousands of Akwa ibom people living in Cross river ,but there's not up to 200 people from cross river living in Akwa ibom, yet Akwa ibom brags , and also rejects Akwacrosss unity. Think about that one .
Who said Efik and ibibio were recently coined terms? You do not read to understand, you read to find faults and criticize. I've carefully read and reasoned with every single thing you wrote ,but you haven't done the same. The problem lies in the fact that you think ibibio or Efik is a distinct ethnic group like Igbo or Yoruba, when in fact ibibio is a community and dialect just like Ngwa is community and dialect. Efik is community and dialect. ( Ibibio ,Efik,Oron,Annang) make up an ethnic group with no official umbrella term . Igbo is an umbrella term which was coined about 50 years ago for related communities and dialects like Ngwa,Onicha,Nsukka,etc.
(Efik ,Ibibio,Oron,Eket,Annang) are Calabarians or Akwacross or Efik/Ibibio . (Ngwa,Onicha,Nsukka,Ikwerre,Owerre,Abakiliki,Idemili,Aro ) are Igbos . The same is true for all ethnicity on earth.
Stop propagating baseless claims saying Ibibio is distinct ethnic group,Efik is distinct ethnic group ,Annang is distinct ethnic group, and vice versa.
All of that division makes the Efik/ibibio people weak and docile. Everyone is laughing at Efik/ibibio foolishness. 90 percent of those who liked your comments are enemies who wish to see a divided and conquered Akwacross people . Oil does not last forever .
I admit my first comment on this thread was mean, but that was in reaction to previous antagonistic comments from some Akwa ibom monikers.
Really The oil wells in Ibeno-Eket should have been for Cross River state shocked Yet those are in Ibibioland So Igbo was coined in 1970 to represent all Igbo speaking groups, yet those groups have names with Igbo from centuries ago names begining and ending with Igbo. E.g. Igbokwe,IgboUkwu etc. I will leave Igbos to answer that.
U don't even understand the basic differences between Efik, Ibibios and Annang, simply because they speak a similar langauge, you think they split form each other undecided I gave example of Spanish, French and Italian because thou those groups speak similar langauges, they're are not the same due to their different cultures. Do U know how the Efik name came about and the true meaning of that name undecided If they were truly 1 with Ibibios Y
What U refused to READ to understand despite my giving u the link to a thread where someone asked this question to undesrstand Y?
Efik, Annang and Ibibio might be speaking a pigin language of a sort mixed with their orignal languages, which is why some words are completely different like the Feces example I gave. Unlike the Igbo groups & Yoruba groups who despite speaking different dialects they all practice same traditions and have same beliefs. Whereas Efiks and Oron have more in common with some Cameroun groups like Ejagham, which they have admited that they migrated from Cameroun. Annang including their name and some of their matriachal cultures migrated from Ghana.
These groups just migrated to live next to Ibibio or were hosted by a small group of Ibibio(uruan) and adopted a few Ibibio traditions like Uruan adopted lots from Efik. Now U believe they split from each other shocked If U Read the thread I gave U, you would've understood all as the people from those grous came to expalin their cultures & traditions. WHAT IS MY BUISNESS WITH THE DENIAL OF THE AKS JUDGE undecided
Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 3:24am On Mar 05, 2020
AtaniWarrior:


Thank you for the information. I will definitely review the topic and continue to do more research. I noticed that some Ibibio names have Kak like Akak, Etokakpan, Nsikak, etc. Does Kak have to do with being powerful/higher/above then?
No There is no Ibibio name that begins with Kak, but Kak is actually in the middle and it's Ironically the opposite of powerful grin Kak=Akak which means tired, like ankak=am tired. Therefore Nsikak is the abreviation of the name Nsikakabasi=what is tiredsome to God? Meaning nothing is tiredsome to God. Etokakpan= Etok(small) Akpan(1st son). I told you Kakpokpo might have been Akpo Akpo(corpse corspe) mispronouced.

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Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 4:04pm On Mar 04, 2020
densiks:


I’m compelled to make this brief intervention in this discourse.

First and foremost most of the comments on this issue are ill informed and infantile and is a consequence of poor education or total lack of education especially as it has to do with history.

The Efik, Ibibio,Anang,Oron,Eket and obolo people are from the same ancestral roots and share almost the same culture except for some insignificant variations and we have a long history of migration that led to the current spread.

The issue of state creation in 1987 was to decentralize government and accelerate development rather than promote division.

Till date,as far as I know the Obong of Calabar cannot be enthroned without the presence of a ranking chief from Uruan in present day Akwa Ibom to undertake a sacred traditional rite.
We even speak the same language except for dialectical differences.

There is absolutely no need for unnecessary bickering and name calling.
The present crop of politicians and young people are mostly uneducated or are mischievous hence the unhealthy suspicion,rivalry and fear of the unknown.

I think it’s better to break or tear down those artificial and divisive walls and pursue shared prosperity and progress to take advantage of the things that unite us rather than focus on the fickle things that could divide and make us weaker.

To the efik man,the ibibio man is not your enemy or oppressor,and vice versa.
Let us rise above the ethnic barriers and promote our similarities and unity in diversity and let also spend more time studying the right records of history.

Yak ibono ke Ima!
What has Obolo in Ijaw got to do with Annangs and Ibibios So Uruan that hosted Efiks for some centuries now= the whole of Ibibioland undecided
Eket is a subgroup of Ibibio in culture and everything, they even speak Ibibio-proper as a 2nd langauge. Similar to Oron and Efik.
Let Me give you a summary explanation in a brief detail;
Here are the Major differences in Cultures between Efik, Annang & Ibibio

Re: Mixed Tribes by ibibiogrl: 1 year & 8 months

Aloy.Emeka:
No difference. Efiks and ibibios are the same. Both understand each others dialect, same language, similar culture and very tiny differences. Even the neighboring igbo don't know the difference. Efiks and ibibios are the least violent specie of Nigerians.


There are many differences between Efik and Ibibio, difference in dressing Efik wear a gown and Elaborate hair dress etc. Ibibio tie 2 wrappers with a blouse, like most south easterners but without coral beads. Also difference in marriage traditions, Efiks coach the bride to be in fattening rooms and there are ceremonies before the actual marriage, ibibios don't. Efik traditions is Rule by Ekpe secret society, Ibibio don't have Ekpe, different traditional gods and different greetings. There are many other differences, the only similarity between Efik and Ibibio is the food and language; although most young Ibibios growing up in Akwa Ibom will only understand a little Efik in the future, since Efik language isn't used in Akwa Ibom.
The most similar ethnic group in Akwa Ibom to Efik is Oron . Please refer to this websites for pictures;
Efik http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html and Efik https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/10
Ibibio https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/16
Just as Efik and Ibibio differs Annang also has same differences, but Ananng dress mors.

EXAMPLE OF DIFFERENCES IN DANCE CULTURE
ezeagu
Is this Ibibio or Annang?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWVRqEcpvXk

Will you be surprised if I find Annang people accusing Ibibio people of cannibalism? undecided
That is Annang, if it was filmed abroad, then there might be Ibibio youths joining in the Dance but the dance is traditionaly Annang dance called Utah.
This is Efik dance Ekombi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rynsh2CaqAk&feature=related

Better view of Ibibio dance here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQdZUsrdGw0&t=120s

Also having lived in Abak & Calabar for a while I can tell you the differences in language.
Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke.
Words can also be totaly different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.

Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house. 2) This is my house
Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami
Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi
Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.


Most Ibibios & Efiks Do Not Understand Annang except the have lived in the Annang region, so how can the be dialects of each other Also Annang has 3-4Major dialect that an Ibibio or Efik won't understand 2words. Ibibio also has several dialects like Itumbonuzo, Eket etc.. Efik doesn't have any dialect as far as i know. So again how can Annang & Ibibio including their typical dialects be dialects of Efik?

FOR A FULL HISTORY OF ANNANGS, EFIKS & IBIBIOS including Oron, READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 11:00am On Mar 04, 2020
Beachside:
I got banned from culture section for a few hours by spambot while trying to upload an icon. I will be back,or maybe not . I already made my point .
You are ignorant and uneducated like most Nigerians,that's why Nigeria is failed state. Efik ,ibibio,anang,Oron and Eket are one ethnicity with no official umbrella name but are popularly known as Calabar , akwacross or efik/ibibio. It's the same for all ethnic nations around the world:Dutch(Netherlands),Japan(Yamato) , Tswana land (Botswana),Lithuania,Scotland,Irish,etc. .
Efik,ibibio,anang,Oron eket are not distinct ethnic groups like you claimed. There are only 16 ethnicity in Nigeria ,not 400 or 1000 like Nigerians claim.
Ibibio,Efik,Annang,Eket and Oron are all communities and dialects of the same ethnicity just as Ngwa,Onicha,Aro,Nsukka etc are all communities and dialects of Igbo(umbrella name). Illaje ,Ijebu,Egba,etc are all communities and dialects of Yoruba(umbrella name)
You were probably band because of your Extreme Ignorance undecided claiming Yoruba, Igbo, Efik and Ibibio were names that were recently coined and all should be under an Umbrella name as there are only 16 distinct groups in Nigeria shocked Yet U Refused to name those 16 groups. undecided
U are the educated fool angry Having a foreign education means nothing and I doubt it in your case undecided I was born in DC and still live there so am American aswell, but Thank God my parent made me go back to live and learn my culture in Nigeria smiley might be the reason I am passionate about teaching ignorant simi illiterate as U undecided
I doubt u are even half Nigerian as U claim, y not bot out of Nigerian affairs.

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Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 7:31am On Mar 04, 2020
Edygrin:

There is nothing like Akwacross. Akwa ibom left y'all behind a long time ago. You cross riverians better move on
Ignore that Beachside fellow angry He knows absolutely nothing about Akwa Ibom and am not even sure about Cross River state either undecided I have also told him that "There is nothing like Akwa-Cross, its only a name coin by the Ibibio Movie industry in Uyo to market to Cross River state because they sometimes have 1character that will speak Efik or come from Calabar, Akpabuyo or any Efik village in their movies"

Edusteve:
So all that noise of Akwacross is just for media attention. Believe me Nigeria as a country is totally divided forget media noise

MelesZenawi:


Na media, nothingelse.

Akwa-Cross is only a name coin by the Ibibio Movie industry in Uyo to market to Cross River state because they sometimes have 1character that will speak Efik or come from Calabar, Akpabuyo or any Efik village in their movies. It's just a name for marketing purpose, althou few people prefer it than Efik-ibibio because its includes more groups from the 2state.
Akwa Ibom and Cross River indegenes have always been separate even before the creation of Akwa Ibom state.
READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

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Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 7:23am On Mar 04, 2020
BrownRoofRep:

Go and sit down Ibibio people hate Efik even more, don't be a hypocrite or be spreading lies.
The so-called AkwaCross unity is one of the biggest hypocritical nonsense in existence. They won't even fish in the same river, full of hates and infights.
Ignore that Beachside fellow undecided he knows absolutely nothing about Akwa Ibom or even Nigeria undecided Claiming to be biracial American and well traveled therefore he knows more about Africans and Nigerians themselves, because he's foreignly educated, therefore he's smarter than most Nigerians because it's a failed state. angry I am even trying to teach him some basics but he has Refused to Read angry

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Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 6:47am On Mar 04, 2020
Beachside:


I'm mixed race American , my dad is Efik and mom is Scottish ancestry , but I know more about Nigeria and Africa than most Nigerians and Africans. Most Nigerians are ignorant and uneducated(jungle education doesn't count), Nigeria's educational system is a failure,that's why Nigeria is a failed state.
I already made my point with facts. it's pointless arguing.
Efik dialect is the standard and official Calabarian/Akwacross language which is in the process of being registered by Google . just as Onitsha dialect and a bit of Ohuhu (umuahia dialects) is the standard and official Igbo language , and Oyo dialect is the standard and official Yoruba dialect.

v v I never said Igbo and Yoruba are the same ethnicity. I already said i'm American ,never said I grew up in Scotland. the problems is some people read to criticize instead of read to understand. They already have their minds made up. oh well
Then U need to go back to Nigeria and to your fathers village to learn undecided Your Ignorance and Refusal to learn is very Embarrassing undecided Your Efik people will soon be here to embarass U further angry
I was born in DC and still live there so am American also, but Thank God my parent made me go back to live and learn my culture in Nigeria smiley might be the reason I am passionate about teaching the ignorant as yourself undecided
Maybe it's Laziness since I gave U a link to the thread to learn the differences in details, All I can do now is to give you a summary detail.

Here are the Major differences in Cultures between Efik, Annang & Ibibio

Re: Mixed Tribes by ibibiogrl: 1 year & 8 months

Aloy.Emeka:
No difference. Efiks and ibibios are the same. Both understand each others dialect, same language, similar culture and very tiny differences. Even the neighboring igbo don't know the difference. Efiks and ibibios are the least violent specie of Nigerians.


There are many differences between Efik and Ibibio, difference in dressing Efik wear a gown and Elaborate hair dress etc. Ibibio tie 2 wrappers with a blouse, like most south easterners but without coral beads. Also difference in marriage traditions, Efiks coach the bride to be in fattening rooms and there are ceremonies before the actual marriage, ibibios don't. Efik traditions is Rule by Ekpe secret society, Ibibio don't have Ekpe, different traditional gods and different greetings. There are many other differences, the only similarity between Efik and Ibibio is the food and language; although most young Ibibios growing up in Akwa Ibom will only understand a little Efik in the future, since Efik language isn't used in Akwa Ibom.
The most similar ethnic group in Akwa Ibom to Efik is Oron . Please refer to this websites for pictures;
Efik http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html and Efik https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/10
Ibibio https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/16
Just as Efik and Ibibio differs Annang also has same differences, but Ananng dress mors.

EXAMPLE OF DIFFERENCES IN DANCE CULTURE
ezeagu
Is this Ibibio or Annang?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWVRqEcpvXk

Will you be surprised if I find Annang people accusing Ibibio people of cannibalism? undecided
That is Annang, if it was filmed abroad, then there might be Ibibio youths joining in the Dance but the dance is traditionaly Annang dance called Utah.
This is Efik dance Ekombi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rynsh2CaqAk&feature=related

Better view of Ibibio dance here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQdZUsrdGw0&t=120s

READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

[b] Also having lived in Abak & Calabar for a while I can tell you the differences in language.
Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke.
Words can also be totaly different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.

Most Ibibios & Efiks Do Not Understand Annang except the have lived in the Annang region, so how can the be dialects of each other Also Annang has 3-4Major dialect that an Ibibio or Efik won't understand 2words. Ibibio also has several dialects like Itumbonuzo, Eket etc.. Efik doesn't have any dialect as far as i know. So again how can Annang & Ibibio including their typical dialects be dialects of Efik?

Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 6:27am On Mar 04, 2020
Beachside:
^^She already has her mind made up . Like most Nigerians ,she think there's 400 or 1000 ethnic groups or tribes in Nigeria. She does not know there's only 16 ethnicity in Nigeria.
She thinks I don't know the original name of Calabar or understand Efik ,Anang,ibibio,or unaware there's variety within those dialects. She does not understand what I mean by an umbrella term "Calabar/Calabarians " for the ethnic group which consist of Efik,Ibibio,anang andOron,eket . She thinks ibibio ,annang ,Efik,Eket and Oron are distinct ethnic groups instead of communities /dialects of an ethnic group which has no umbrella term. She does not know that the names Igbo,Yoruba etc. are recently coined umbrella terms for related communities and dialects just like Calabar/Akwacross(Efik,Oron,ibibio,Oron,Eket).

I'm mixed race, my dad is Efik and mom is Scottish, but I know more about Nigeria and Africa than most Nigerians and Africans. Most Nigerians are ignorant and uneducated(jungle education doesn't count), Nigeria's educational system is a failure,that's why Nigeria is a failed state.
I already made my point with facts. it's pointless arguing.
Efik dialect is the official and standard Calabarian/Akwacross language which is in the process of being registered by Google . just as Onitsha dialect and a bit of Ohuhu (umuahia dialects) is the standard and official Igbo language.
Again you are pronouncing your ignorance in Details here angry Maybe you grew up in Scotland and know absolutely nothing about Nigeria undecided I gave you the link to a thread to learn. So Yoruba and Igbo are now the same and dialects of each other undecided Riducolus shocked Even Scotland and Ireland have more in common that these groups. U might be confusing the recently coin or created country of Nigeria with the 250 different groups in the country embarassed Please ask your father or go visit his family elders and ask them your history. You don't know about migration? Even many groups and languages in Nigeria are dead and more are dying. There is nothing like Akwa-Cross, its only a name coin by the Ibibio Movie industry in Uyo to market to Cross River state because they sometimes have 1character that will speak Efik or come from Calabar, Akpabuyo or any Efik village in their movies.
Ok what are the 16groups that u recognize as the only legitimate different groups in Nigeria?
Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 3:38am On Mar 04, 2020
Beachside:
Efik,Ibibio,Oron,Eket,Annang are all communities and dialects of the same ethnicity or ethnic nation which has no official name but is popularly referred to as Calabar,Akwacross or Efik/ibibio. I prefer the term Calabar/Calabarian as the official name of the ethnicity's land and people . Efik is the most popular dialect and Ibibio is also popular dialect now,perhaps due to larger population. With that ,the official and standard Calabarian language is either Efik or an official standard has to be created by professional linguist based on Efik and Ibibio combined which won't be different from what is already spoken there now . in any case, Efik is the standard and official Calabarian language and is in the process of being registered by google.
None of the communities and dialects above are sub groups of anyone, nor are they different languages like French ,Portuguese ,Spanish as someone erroneously insinuated earlier. They are the same people and language with dialectical differences caused by primordial hunter gather isolation factors and they just have different population ,that's all . No one knows for sure how the group and language evolved and which dialect was the first in which the others evolved from due to the fact Africans never recorded their history beyond 800 years ago . All hypothesis are only speculative, and frankly does not matter .
French is a language with it's own dialects ; the Parisian dialect being one of 2 most popular & standard french. same applies to Italian, and Spanish.
Italian,Portuguese and Spanish are of the same family tree just like Calabarian,Igbo,Fang ,and perhaps Ejagham are of the same family tree with a few similar sounding words yet different language.
I'm self taught and can speak 6 other languages other than English: Spanish,Japanese,Brazilian Portuguese,German,Lithuanian(my girlfriend's background .she can't even speak it),Setswana(Botswana) and I can understand a few others such as French, owerri igbo dialect,Efik Calabar dialect and I get the idea on ibibio,Oron and annang dialect , Swahili,Arabic. I've visited over 11 countries so far. The same method applies to all ethnicity and languages on earth.

Why didn't you quote me directly instead of beating around the bush undecided

There is nothing like Calabarian, ignorantly as u sound you might be confusing Kalabari which is Ijaw with Calabar is a city and not even the original name of that city. So I don't understand how it can be use as a name for the indigenes when that name has no meaning in their language. The Calabar people are Efik and some Ejagham and they are in Cross River state. A separate state from Akwa Ibom state where Ibibios and Annang Indigenes are of.
Who told you that Ibibio and Annang don't have dialects Am sure you don't even know, as U won't even recognize 1word from any of those languages undecided But U are Ignorantly stating your opinion here as the standard. Portuguese and Spanish should be dialect of each other as those languages are more similar than Annang and Ibibio. Incuding Italian.
Ibibio has several, infact Eket can be considered a dialect of Ibibio since its a sub-group of ibibio, Annang has 3-4 dialects that an Ibibio, Efik & Oron won't understand 2words. Efik doesn't have any dialect, except Ukwa was a dialect of Efik, but that language is dying. Oron is a separate langauge that has more in common with Efik langauge, infact Oron can be considered a sub-group of Efik althou they're in separate state, infact due to the lack of understanding of Oron language, they speak Efik as a 2nd langauge.

Also having lived in Abak & Calabar for a while I can tell you the differences in language. THE ARE NOT DIALECTS OF EACH OTHER;
Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke.
Words can also be totaly different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.

Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house. 2) This is my house
Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami
Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi
Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.


Comparism to Spanish, Portugeuse, French and Italian in greeting How are You?

(die pronounce as Dear) Annang: Atie die? (Pronouced as) Atie lie? Ibibio: Aba die? Efik: Etie didie? Oron: Sala Digie(not sure about spelling)

Spanish: Cómo estás? French: Comment ça va? Italian : Come sta ? Portuguese_ Como você está
So You can see that Efik and Ibibio and Annang are just like Spanish, Portuguese and Italian languages


U visiting 11 countries and learning a few words of Efik doesn't mean anything, if U cannot tell the differences between languages and dialects to state your Ignorant opinion as a Fact angry I don't want to repeat this lesson of almost a decade again So READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo
Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 3:30am On Mar 04, 2020
AtaniWarrior:


Very interesting. Makes a lot of sense. Thank you for sharing.

Ignore that Person undecided the person is absolutely ignorant and doesn't even know what he/she is talking about angry There's nothing like Calabarian, seems the person is confusing Kalabari-Ijaw with Calabar. That person doesn't even know that Calabar is a city in another state, also Efik is not even spoken in the same state where Ibibio is spoken. That person would not recognize 1 word out of all those languages, not to talk about knowing the differences. I don't know why Ignorant people choose to give their ignorant opinion as advice angry To learn more about the differences in not only languages but the cultures and traditional diffrerences of Major groups in Akwa Ibom and Cross River state. READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo


AtaniWarrior:


What is the meaning of the following names?

-Kakakpo
-Awa
-Inokon

Kakakpo is not Ibibio might have been a nickname that the Aro-Igbo fighters gave to the half Ibibio prince, maybe mispronoucing Akpo=corpse(similar to Ekpo=ghost/masquerade.) Could've been hailig him as too powerful to be a human being undecided
Awa=to sacrifice, it is also the name of a big village/clan I believe Ini Edo and the current govenor of Akwa Ibom are from there.
Inokon is a last name might have been an abreviation of Ino okoneyo= thief of the night.

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Fashion / Re: Most Beautiful Girl In Akwa Ibom 2017 Contestants (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 12:05pm On Oct 06, 2019
luveu:


where did he mention calabar or dialect in his text? moreso there's no dialectical diffs bw efik (calabar) and ibibio (uyo), and most piple refer to as calabar piple r d akwa ibomites

Having lived in Abak & Calabar for a while I can tell you the differences in language. The are not dialect of each other.
Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke.
Words can also be totaly different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.

Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house. 2) This is my house
Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami
Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi
Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.

Comparism to Spanish, French and Italian in greeting How are You?

(die pronounce as Dear) Annang: Atie die? (Pronouced as) Atie lie? Ibibio: Aba die? Efik: Etie didie?

Spanish: Cómo estás? French: Comment ça va? Italian : Come sta ? So You can see that Efik and Ibibio are just like Spanish and Italian languages

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Politics / Re: Where Are Those People Saying There Are Indigenous Igbos In Akwa Ibom? by ibibiogrl: 3:28am On Oct 06, 2019
Ikechunna:
How one person creates multiple accounts to ask the same stupid question is beyond me. Even after his first attempt of doing it have been answered and exposed of his illiteracy. Some people are just extremely PATHETIC!!!


For those that were not on this OP other topic. I'm posting this just for y'all knowledge. I'm 110% sure the so called "Annang" will open multiple topics on the same subject. Instead of arguing with slowpoke, just screenshot and post.
This is PURE LIES, I grew up in Abak the City closest to Ukanafun, I have also asked the daughter of the paramount ruler of Ukanafun, there are no such villages in ukanafun

immhotep:

Igbo amaka
So Ini LGA has now change to Igbo undecided not even Cross River state can make such claims or is this Map for comedy

Ikechunna:


grin grin grin grin by this comment, we can see that the "Annang" man is about to claim Ohaobu as his village grin

Here's more opinion NL Annang.
I think this article might be confusing the name of Ika-Annang with Ika in Delta-Igbo. It's just a similar name and has nothing else in common undecided

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Politics / Re: BORDER POLITICS: An End To The Igbo And Ibibio E-war by ibibiogrl: 2:59am On Oct 06, 2019
1st of all OP @NtoAkwaIbom U claim to come from Akwa Ibom according to your name, but you don't know how to state the different ethnic groups undecided, why did you put Ibibio in your title when this has Absolutely nothing to do with Ibibios

Banmeallday:
Nothing like E- War...among Igbo and their cousins Ibibio


Ibibio people we no dey make too much noise and are not loud....


Maybe it is Afonja people against BIAFRANS

And no not all Oduduwa people are AFONJA


This has NOTHING to Do with Ibibio, This is Annang Ibibios are not as Quiet as U think; https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people

LabDNA:
Was there a 'war' before? I didn't know that pls educate me.
Even though this has nothing to do with ibibios but Annang, There was a border war over 300 years ago Aro-Ibibio War

MelesZenawi:
There are no Igbos in Akwa-Ibom, cross river, Rivers and Bayelsa states.

Thank you.


There was never an E-WAR going on please.


These are just children playing on nairaland to ease off tension , stress and depression associated with them been called Nigerians.

SLAP44:
Where did the e-war happen?

How many people were killed?
Yes there was a war and Ibibios lost a large amount of their land to Igbos Aro-Ibibio War

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs France: FIFA Women's World Cup (0 - 1) Full Time by ibibiogrl: 6:22pm On Jun 20, 2019
OGHENAOGIE:
man shut up...and sleep...u and dos guys opinion is useless
angry U should Be Silence forever! and NEVER speak again when it comes to this tournament lipsrsealed Your own opinion is Baseless & Most Embarrassing undecided Padlock your mouth and eyes tongue
Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs France: FIFA Women's World Cup (0 - 1) Full Time by ibibiogrl: 3:41pm On Jun 20, 2019
OGHENAOGIE:
go and sleep abeg...against Ukraine for under 20 Var and that rule favor us...there is nothing like rigg here
Which Rule is that the penalty retake rule was just made this year undecided Even the french themselves are saying the Match was Rigged & embrasssing for them sad Here are few top comments on the FIFA video, Notice they're not Nigerians�� but other Europeans & french��Even on "The Man of Match video, All are saying it was the Ref that scored grin

Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs France: FIFA Women's World Cup (0 - 1) Full Time by ibibiogrl: 8:27pm On Jun 19, 2019
Beverlyjean:


Y are u guys so sentimental... How did they connive?? It was a clear penalty tho it was not intentional... The penalty in the CL final was not intentional as well but that doesn't mean it wasn't a penalty... The second penalty stood cos the French players were not the ones that encroached... A Nigerian player also entered the box ...

OGHENAOGIE:
when will you black folks stop this victim mentality...do u guys know that football rules are updated regularly...na pple like una de fight for Nigerian league matches when result no go una team way... ojoro this ojoro that... nonsense...did we not win South Korea...

HabuD:
Its understandable how Nigerians got sentimental over the match and blamed ref, VAR etc, but u have to ask urself, with the kinda defensive set up were u expecting nigeria to get a result from a highly attacking side like france. Though i was somewhat impressed by their defence, i knew deep inside that it was only a matter of time before they slipped up and allowed france to take the advantage. Even when the nigerians had the chance to take the game to france they still preferred to go back and defend! Against a highly attacking team like france that also had home advantage?
Now on the goal, fact remains that the referee was faultless. There are rules to every game, and even the goal keeper was allegedly told the rule before the penalty was taken. If both feet are off the line u receive a yellow card and the penalty is retaken- thats the FIFA rule which was explained to the goalkeeper prior to the penalty. Truth is, no matter how sentimental the ref wud have wanted to be, she just had to be neutral and take that courageous decision. And that was a cleAR penalty btw.
And moreso, i even thought the ref was actually more favourable towards nigeria on the whole. The team got it all wrong in their first match against norway which they could have easily won if they put up a good defensive display like they did against France.
Please lets put sentiments aside, that team never looked like they were in for a fight against france, and going defensive against an attacking team who also has the home advantage was suicidal. There was no way they could have lasted the whole 90mins!
yoged:
I don't know what you guys are saying. That's a clear penalty. If na Nigeria den foul, u'll be barking like a mad dog up and down. It's a clear pk. And about the retake, it's a new law, it has also occur in this tournament. Get your fact right before spewing rubbish.
angry even the french undecided themselves are saying it was cheating from the penalty calls undecidedInfact the Whole World are calling it the MOST Rigged MATCH EVER! Watch the FIFA highlight on Youtube by clicking on the link on the bottom of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSbih-N_AI&fbclid=IwAR2WN4TWM5uWKeQlxMpEGdrrSM9AoXvd8D3jvehbw5aB018mo6Az8RLZkLk
Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 7:09am On Mar 20, 2019
In Ibibio

God has done me well= Abasi ame anam aboho
God favoured me= Abasi afon ye ami(for a name Mfon means grace/favor)
God answers = Abasi aboro (name Iboro means answer)
Miracle God = UtibeAbasi
Culture / Re: Beautiful Names In Efik/ibibio by ibibiogrl: 1:41am On Feb 13, 2019
darfay:



I always thought eket is an ethic group on its own
Maybe in the ancient times, but now they're a subgroup of Ibibio and practice same cultures as Ibibios. Although they've a few unique culture that's originally theirs. Here's a thread that explains in details about the different groups in Akwa-Cross. https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo#8218480
Culture / Re: Efik/ibibio Names And Their Meaning by ibibiogrl: 1:23am On Feb 13, 2019
kufreabasi:


what is the meaning of these names
Bassey
Oduobuk
Atim
Arit
Effiong
Ebong
Effiong is a name after 1 of Efik old market days.(I think Fiongaran or something like that) The female version is Affiong. Same as
Etim and Atim, Edet and Arit, Asuquo and Iquo, etc., the are all names from Efik market days and so the are Efik names, Bassey is also an Efik name which can mean something more detail in Efik, but it's also like Abasi=God. Ebong can means Shout. Never heard of Oduobuk, although Mbuk means News.

HERE'S A SIMILAR THREAD THAT WAS OPEN B4 WITH MORE DETAILS :- https://www.nairaland.com/1906680/beautiful-names-efik-ibibio

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