asmovic: so my sweat, the tax I pay monthly is spent winning 'fashion: in sports? So the medals for the major events should be won too.
They sponsored themselves.
redsun: No. Not just you. I can't get my mind around the sporting event they will take part in in that Caucasians/north east Asians dare devils and elite games.
Yes Nigeria isn't a winter sport country.
jaxxy: What are we doing at Winter Olympics?? Maybe our diaspora athletes tho. I wish them Goodluck.
Yes it's diaspora.
Mkelv0106: Am that's the only medal we're going to win, at all at all na witch..But why are we participating in winter Olympic.
Diaspora athlete
dalebrown: Congrats ... I hope we play better than we dress though, wey wetin happen for world cup dah year no come happen again
ultimateprof: Na only clothes competition they dey win. Ndi ara!
Opak001: Na fashion we dey always win, Win wetin carry you go china... No!!!
danuzochukwu: That's what we're good at. But when it comes to winning medals we will be nowhere to be found.
nnamdi640: Na their way, fashion without medal, before forget Mr bad luck (Buhari) is on top of the situation.
The Best Uniforms at the 2022 Winter Olympics Opening Ceremonies. Nigeria Team Nigeria blended tradition with practicality when choosing their uniforms. The delegates represented their country wearing green and white uniforms, each sporting a head wrap. The uniforms were created by black-owned sports apparel brand Actively Black. The parade of nations in the Winter Olympics is really the parade of puffers. Unlike the Summer Games, cold weather means less room for fashion. Still, some countries tried their best Accessories were the easiest way for most countries to stand out. The Nigerian athletes eschewed beanies and bobble knits for traditional wrap hats. SOURCE; People Magazine: https://images.app./hSbxp1wxLyP9gUZz9 The New York Times: https://images.app./nEFV9U2gRBnS1qq16
tammie24: are you really saying that Obama wasn't regarded as a black President Even Tyger Woods is well regarded a black man even though he hates associating with his fellow blacks I'm not going to argue with you but try to do a little research
Yes I don't need any research, as I've been living in America. Blacks claim Obama, just like Igbos & Yorubas claim Giannis Antet... But we all know he's mixed with both Igbo & Yoruba. Unlike Obama who sees himself as black, Tiger Woods doesn't see or regard himself as black.
tammie24: and are regarded as blacks Show me someone who has at least one black parent or grandparent who isn't regarded as black? No matter the race the are mixed with
No they're not regarded as blacks, including Obama, Tyger Woods, Maury twins etc.. because they're recently mixed with 1 non black parent. Even Beyonce's mother is regarded as creole (mixed race people of Louisiana) The one drop rule only applied to those that were mixed during slavery through rape, by the white vslave masters raping the black slave women. So the children born were regarded as blacks, those children are the ancestors of many African American.
vankelvin: It's obvious you are the ignorant one here.. Kotoka has always been ranked ahead of Abuja airport.. What's modern about that Abuja airport? Can we see pictures? cos the video you posted has poor video quality and that even make your case worst
vankelvin: [/b] Advanced as in? Apart from the train that connects the Abuja Airport what other things do they have that other Airports do not have? What makes Abuja Airport advanced? Talk is cheap If the emboldened is what you refer to as *advanced* then I'm sorry you know nothing.
Obviously U can't Read to comprehend Research everything that's recommended for any modern worldly airport & this airport has it. It's the number 1 in Nigeria & West Africa
vankelvin: I knew about the new terminal in Abuja just that I could not get nice pictures of it.. It's surely beautiful with the train connecting it but Kotoka Dakar airport Mutala over that terminal any day anytime
Really when the new Abuja terminal is more advanced & modernized than all these airport you are listing here. I've checked out numerous videos and pictures of Kotoka terminal, it's close but not as advance as the Abuja terminal. I didn't even notice an escalator or the rolling floor escalator, that's present in all westernized airport terminals. We Nigerians rate the New Abuja terminal as number 1, so I don't know why you are rating Lagos international airport the highest in Nigeria.
vankelvin: NNAMDI AZIKIWE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT- ABUJA, NIGERIA
Why are you using the old Abuja terminal airport to compare Maybe you don't know, but the New international terminal airport of Abuja is the best in all of Nigeria. Maybe even better than the Kotoka Ghana airport, since it has trains taking you there like most European & Western airports.
KingOKON: . Nigerian ethnic groups that traces their origin with more nothing less than 4 different accounts? Especially tales from the Bible lands Stop getting worked up and answer the simple question Who told you by that useless pictures you posted, that this is Ibibio and the other is Efik? Your grandfather or your village council? Show me a picture of how your father and grandfather was dressed during their marriage? Stop telling us irrelevant tales and answer the questions?
KingOKON: . You showed the world pics claiming one is Ibibio another Efik becsuse of the way they dressed,where did you get the audacity to say such nonsense?
U have been the one talking nonsense & arguing like a Retard & I've been waisting my time trying to explain as slowly as I can, but it's been pointless I told you I know the couple in real life & told you that they did & represented their both traditions on their traditional marriage. Are you actually Nigerian Am asking because I'm not sure, with you taking about DNA test Because if you are truly Nigerian, you would know that when 2 different ethnic group/tribes marry each other, they conduct both traditions together. Just like former governor of Cross River State daughter Xerona Duke married a Yoruba groom and had to change up later to her husband's traditional attire, when they both began wearing Efik traditional attire. They even included the bride's mom's Kalabari tradition. https://www.nairaland.com/4452946/photos-traditional-wedding-ex-gov-donald
KingOKON: . I don't do Wikipedia especially when it comes to anything concerning the history of Africa and whats my business with group having Identity issues in this time and age when DNAs and many scientific techniques exist over feel good tales My major concern is the pics where you outrightly classified one as Ibibio and another Efik Where did you get such authority from, The elders, village councils or where? What even makes you think you know anything deeper aside using this diluted culture and whatever as your yardstick for who is who Those pics are nothing but fallacious it represents nothing
And where did you get the authority to label the guy whom U ask me to guess where he was from What has DNA got to do with ibibios and Efiks who know their ancient histories or any indigenous people of Nigeria Looks like I've been waisting my time trying to explaini to a really Slow person So you thought that I just found a random picture online and posted here as an example Didn't U read where I wrote that; the groom was from Okobo while the bride was from Ibibio, & they did both traditions to represent their different cultures. U think I just made that up Don't U know that these are people I know especially the Ibibio bride So as I'm calling myself Ibibiogrl, I don't have the authority to label myself that, even though I am %100 Ibibio, knowing my family history & my great great grandparents on both sides, who were Ibibio with a street name after my grandfather in Uyo my village. Yet according to your logic I've to get a DNA test to find out my family history.
KingOKON: . I am not interested where they are from rather I don't know where you got your facts about Ibibio/Efik bride/groom dressing The pics depicting the dressing for an Ibibio groom is fallacious same with the bride. The original Efiks were Uruans in origin
And you know this because you are an Efik or Uruan or the historian from those groups I don't know why you keep quoting me, if you have noticed on my post history, the Efiks & Orons, etc agree with me. But I'm wondering why you an outsider has continued to argue about their history & origin. I already gave you several links to some thread to go there and argue with the Efiks themselves, but U refused, following me about I wonder how you would feel if a stranger argues with you and tries to Convince you that U are not from your village & Ur parent are not your real parent, U who don't even know the basic differences between Efik and Annang & Ibibio.. But U are an expert on their histories & Origin. Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efik_people) has finally written down the full migratory origin of Efik and the other groups like Oron. These groups still have some of their relatives currently located in Cameroun & even Congo(Oron), where they originally migrated from. Just because they temporary stop by Uruan, doesn't mean that it's their original origin. I suggest you go there and Read. If you still doubt that go back to the links I shared including the esopefik.tripod.com & ask them their origin or try to convince them that they are from Uruan
KingOKON: . Dressing... can you take a wild guess where you think this guy is from?
And where do you think the couple in my picture example are from Let me tell you they are both (bride & groom) from Akwa Ibom. The bride is Ibibio while the groom is from Okobo a part of Oron. They did both traditions that's Y they are dressed to represent both cultures. Oron in Akwa Ibom share cultures and are related to Efik, even Uruans a part of Ibibio have some relationship with Efik. Those 2groups in Akwa Ibom State have never denied their relationship with Efiks in Calabar and vice versa. So this man in this picture could be from any of those groups in Akwa Ibom State.
KingOKON: . Better you remain in America since you absolute lack knowledge of anything outside the Ibibio Annang Efik triangle
Really what have you contributed except your ridiculous arguments
KingOKON: . You really have to do something more deeper not this yesterday westernized culture, something truly original
What is westernized culture Again you should Go back and Read those links that I've posted, to learn more about Efik traditions, including the meaning behind different outfits, it's not as westernized as U think
KingOKON: . Go to Enugu state UDI local government area to be precise, in one local government they speak three variant of Igbo language that those within this council don't have common understanding My host don't don't understand the dialect of somebody in his local government and you are using 3local government bigger 10 times than UDI local to base your judgment Have you stayed outside Akwacross for just 1 week?
Actually I was born & have spent half of my life living in America, this isn't hidden from my post history Where did I use 3 LGA Are you comparing Calabar & Abak to LGAs in the same state Despite using Okon I doubt you are from the Akwa Ibom or Cross River State areas This your example of using dialects in 3LGA areas in Enugu has exposed U, no wonder you keep arguing ridiculously I will try to explain in case you truly care to learn. I'm Ibibio as U already know, my relatives & majority of ibibios only understand a bit of Annang, most don't. More understand Efik more as Efik was the official language used in the old Cross River State that included Akwa Ibom State. But even those ibibios & Annangs who understand Efik may not be able to speak fluently, except they grew up in Calabar. That's Y I stated that I have lived in Calabar and Abak, so that helped me to understand & speak Annang and Efik more than an average Ibibio person. Annang has 3-4 dialects that's unintelligible to others who aren't Annang. E.g. Ikot Ekpene, Ukanafun & others..etc Ibibio also has several dialects, including dialect that's unintelligible to others e.g. Itumbonuso, even Eket is sometimes considered as an Ibibio dialect. But I still wrote that language and food is the only similar aspect between Efik, Ibibios & Annangs. Efik share culture with Ejagham, who are also native to Cameroun. Are you going to argue that Ibibio & Annang are the same as Ejagham
KingOKON: . What is this,do you call this a true indigenous African Ibibio/Efik traditional marriage attire? When did people start wearing white long sleeve shirts and imported materials fit for curtains and furnitures as traditional marriage attires? In the above picture the only original traditional thing is the rod being held by the woman every other thing up there is totally non-indegenous The original maiden dressing for marriage consists of beads, cloth wrap around the bossom and waist A man is only to tie a wrapper, the above picture is a complete dilution
Actually if you had checked the links I provided above, as I'm sure Afam the guy I was responding to did, you wouldn't waste your time repeating all these Those links explains culture & tradition of the Efiks with pictures in detail. You would also have noticed that, the dressing hasn't changed much, the gown is just 1of the formal attire for the Efik. But they still dress in the more traditional outfit. Since you didn't bother to check the links, here are 2 pics from those links. The outfit attire you posted is the Abang which has been modified just a bit, but you can still see the style in this 1st picture below. The 2nd picture shows the original style (from the same era as the picture you posted) which has now been modified, more commonly worn by dancers and an Efik Bride on her outing after the fattening room rite of passage..etc
Afam4eva: I'm not saying that they are exactly the same. But I have a simple question: Can an Efik person understand what an Ibibio person is saying and vice-versa?
They Are Not the same at all, they don't share origin or traditions like Ikwerre & Igbo. As for the languages, they can understand each other to an extent, just like a Spanish person can understand Italian, except they've lived in each other region, before they can understand more. Having lived in Calabar & Abak, I can explain these in more details.
Comparison to Spanish/French/Italian in greeting, How are you? Annang: Atie die?/Atie lie? Ibibio: Aba die? Efik: Etie didie? (die pronounce as Dear)
Spanish: Cómo estás? French: Comment ça va? Italian : Come sta ?
More details; Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke. Words can also be completely different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.
Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house. 2) This is my house Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.
So you can now see these differences in languages and judge for yourself if they can understand each other.
Afam4eva: This same thing you said about Ikwere and Igbo, just replace it with Urhobo and Isoko or Efik and Ibibio so that you can understand where i'm coming. That's not to say that you don't have a point in your assessment of the situation. But like i said Ikwerre people do not see it with the same eyes that Igbos see it. Why you may think all "Bia" speaking people or people who call God all the variations of Chi/Chukwu should be Igbo, Ikwerres do not have that same school of thought. As far as they know, every village can be a tribe. Little wonder Rivers state has one of the largest concentration of ethnic groups even though most of those ethnic groups understand each other to some extent.
How Many Times am I going to explain to people like you, that Efiik & Ibibio are not the same due to different cultural, traditions, original beliefs, infact the languages aren't that similar; except you consider French & Spanish the same The only group that U can compare to Ibibio is Eket, whom are like ikwerre and Igbo, but they don't deny being Ibibio. They consider themselves subgroup of Ibibio. Oron is the most similar group to Efiik in Akwa Ibom State, they also acknowledge their relationship with Efiks. So if Oron sharing same state with Ibibio aren't even similar, how much more Efik in another state Again Here are the differences between Efik and Ibibio
Re: Mixed Tribes by ibibiogrl: 1 year & 8 months Aloy.Emeka: No difference. Efiks and ibibios are the same. Both understand each others dialect, same language, similar culture and very tiny differences. Even the neighboring igbo don't know the difference. Efiks and ibibios are the least violent specie of Nigerians.
There are many differences between Efik and Ibibio, difference in dressing Efik wear a gown and Elaborate hair dress etc. Ibibio tie 2 wrappers with a blouse, like most south easterners but without coral beads. Also difference in marriage traditions, Efiks coach the bride to be in fattening rooms and there are ceremonies before the actual marriage, ibibios don't. Efik traditions is Rule by Ekpe secret society, Ibibio don't have Ekpe, different traditional gods and different greetings. There are many other differences, the only similarity between Efik and Ibibio is the food and language; although most young Ibibios growing up in Akwa Ibom will only understand a little Efik in the future, since Efik language isn't used in Akwa Ibom. The most similar ethnic group in Akwa Ibom to Efik is Oron. Please refer to this websites for pictures; Efik http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html and Efik https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/10 Ibibio https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/16
Nanaborga: Which kind nonsense accidental shooting , was the photographer a part of the movie cast , why did he direct the gun to her in the first place and also the other director that was injured ?
uunwanaobong3: My guy, accidental shooting does not affect two people at the same time... He shot the first person and then proceed to shot at the second person all of which are not part movie acting role... And being that alec baldwin has had a history of accidental discharge, why didnt he check the gun himself before firing....... But lucky for him, he is a friend to biden and democrat and a lover of the media. The whole crew members will be charged in various ways but alec balwic will walk free without any charge and the media will bury the story soon. That is democrat for u.
SavageResponse: Why did Alec even fire at a member of the crew is not even an actress? There are some type of play a person should not engage in!
EagleNest: But why firing it to Director of Photography on set? Was she acting as well? Was it part of the script or just pure temptation to fire?
He was aiming/pointing the gun & firing at the camera. Unfortunately as she was the director of photography, she was directly behind the camera The other director that was wounded on the shoulder was standing close by
bigfrancis21: To me, all 3 are dialects of each other. They understand themselves when they speak yet identify as 3 different tribes (the common thing in south south). In Igbo and Yoruba lands we have a unifying dialect that unites all different dialects, which is missing in the awka ibom and calabar axis. Similar story among the bini-esan people.
@Lewis346 Africans are thought to be the poorest worldwide, U agree but don't agree on poverty contributing to the situation in Nigeria, Yet using that poverty logic to excuse gang violence & gun murder in AfroAmerican communities. According to this map, Texas isn't that Rich compared to the cities in east coast where gun violence is at the highest in black American counties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate Also according to this Houston isn't that much better than Chicago https://upgradedhome.com/chicago-vs-houston/#Job_Market Ure confusing Competition with wanting to be like Europeans. Nigerians are notorious for adapting ideas & making it better than the original. America is dominated by Whites, so Nigeriand will always compete with the best. That's how they became the most educated ethnic group. Right now they're trying to be the richest. Most of your points was heresay How can they warn their children against Akatas b4 even arriving in USA, when their priority is being the best at whatever country they migrate to. Majority marry this same AfroAmericans that they were supposed to be avoiding. I already told U slavery was a business like drug dealing. Also majority were kidnappers, such won't limit their commodities, especially since women & children would be easier to capture. Do drug dealers limit their customer pool? Again colonial rule in Nigeria was indirectly from 1900-1960. just 60yrs & indirect rule so they barely had interaction with whites, U saw many white Brazilian worshipping the Yoruba King didn't U? Search 4 Uhuru dynasty, has said that Nigeria is the African country least dominated by whites & other foreigners in wealth. U should subscribe to his Chanel. Read this article now 4rm someone with your similar experience with whites has explained how Nigerians feel about race. https://africasacountry.com/2019/04/why-im-no-longer-talking-to-nigerians-about-race
PAGAN9JA: Let me reply since this thread was directed to me.
1) Pagan/Traditional Rulers and Tribal Chiefs NEVER sold their own people to the slavers. So stop saying this "our ancestors sold us" bull****. 2)As Tribals, only the welfare and benifit of our own tribes and ethnic groups mattered. We had no obligation to members of other ethnic groups. 3)Before the europeans came, there was a uniform system of warfare, trade and slavery, whereby the populations were naturally kept in check/balanced through these constant raids carried out on each other. A very recent example on a different level, can be seen among the raids and counter raids of Southern Sudanese on each others cattle, depending on grazing patterns and who is more drought affected. (which results in these drought affect raiders seeking better pastures for capturing the cattle of other tribes). The same exact situation can be noted among the Bedu Arab Tribals, 50-100 years back, before the discovery of oil.
4)The conquerors had no personal/racist bias against the slaves. In the African system, slaves were treated as part of the family, incorporated into trade guilds (if young, they served as apprentices), and later on even rose to higher ranks, especially so if they were from distinctly related ethnic groups. E.g., Jaja of Opobo, Tuareg Bella, etc.
5)The forms of slavery in Africa were closely related to kinship structures.Many slave relationships in Africa revolved around domestic slavery, where slaves would work primarily in the house of the master but retain some freedoms. Domestic slaves could be considered part of the master's household and would not be sold to others without extreme cause. The slaves could own the profits from their labor (whether in land or in products) and could marry and pass the land on to their children in many cases. slaves were not tortured, forcibly converted, starved, sent abroad to a point of no return, packed in crowded ships like animals, etc. Owing to their close proximity to their own tribal territories, they had a chance to return back to their ethnic group, either by buying their way out, or by being re-captured in a counter-raid.
Pawnship, or debt bondage slavery, involves the use of people as collateral to secure the repayment of debt. Slave labor is performed by the debtor, or a relative of the debtor. Pawnship was a common form of collateral in West Africa. It involved the pledge of a person, or a member of that person's family, to service another person providing credit. Pawnship was a common practice throughout West Africa prior to European contact, including amongst the Akan people, the Ewe people, the Ga people, the Yoruba people, and the Edo people (in modified forms, it also existed amongst the Efik people, the Igbo people, the Ijaw people, and the Fon people). Military slavery involved the acquisition and training of conscripted military units which would retain the identity of military slaves even after their service.
[b]The viewpoint that “Africans” enslaved “Africans” is obfuscating if not troubling. The deployment of “African” in African history tends to coalesce into obscurantist constructions of identities that allow scholars, for instance, to subtly call into question the humanity of “all” Africans. Whenever Asante rulers sold non-Asantes into slavery, they did not construct it in terms of Africans selling fellow Africans. They saw the victims for what they were, for instance, as Akuapems, without categorizing them as fellow Africans. Equally, when Christian Scandinavians and Russians sold war captives to the Islamic people of the Abbasid Empire, they didn’t think that they were placing fellow Europeans into slavery. This lazy categorizing homogenizes Africans and has become a part of the methodology of African history; not surprisingly, the Western media’s cottage industry on Africa has tapped into it to frame Africans in inchoate generalities allowing the media to describe local crisis in one African state as “African” problem.[/b] —Dr. Akurang-Parry, Ending the Slavery Blame-Game
6)the pattern of slavery in the African continent was similar in nature to that practiced by the Pagan Romans, earlier. There was no racist or personal bias. It was all part of the system of warfare.
7) Our traditional rulers were ignorant of conditions in the americas, until much later when the situation got extensive and out of hand. They truly realised the extent when the british govt., who after abolishing slavery, contacted many rulers to take a step forward and explained the suffereings of slaves abroad. This was the point when britain herself started sending out anti-slavery naval fleets. After this, many of our traditional rulers and even Queens start advocating against slavery. I do not remember the names, but I think chief advocates were among the Benin/Dahomey Empires, who were centrally involved in the trade. King Ansah of Ghana had the Fante people watch for European ships, and prevented them from coming ashore.
King Nzenga Maremba of Kongo tried to stop the slave trade in the Congo only after he originally participated in the trade in exchange for military items and support from Portugal. King Maremba agreed to release his African prisoners of war to the Portuguese who wanted the best (1470 - 1800) young African men as a bargaining chip to be sure the King kept his word. The Portuguese promised to train and educate the young men to become priests and later to return them to the Congo. King Meremba let the Portuguese convince him to take the Christian name, Alfonso, as a show of support. He was even forced to convert to christianity by the missionaries, in order to compromise for the benefit of his people. When Alfonso asked for the return of a few of his former prisoners, who had been trained to serve as physicians, surgeons, pharmacists, assistants for shipbuilders and carpenters, his requests were denied. After having his requests denied several times, King Alfonso learned that his prisoners of war had been sold as slaves in Portugal. In 1526, King Alfonso wrote to King John III, the former King of Portugal, and asked for his help in ending the slave trade in the Congo. He explained the freedoms that were given to the Portuguese, who had set up shops, become merchants in the Congo and had amassed fortunes. The people in the Congo could not do the same because they had complied with the agreement and now did not have the same abundance of wealth as the invaders. King Alfonso related that the damage was so great that his people and land were being seized daily. King Alfonso ended his letter to King John III with another request for his help because it was the will of the people in the Congo and other kingdoms that there should not be any trading of slaves nor markets for slaves.
In 1777, King Agadja, a Dahomean monarch, captured an Englishman and his slave raiding party who had entered his kingdom looking for more Africans. The Englishman and his crew were released after they promised to return all the Africans they had captured. King Agadja gave the Englishmen a warning to take to the rulers of England, that if any other slave traders were sent to his Kingdom, or other kingdoms, they would be killed. In 1787, the Senegal King of Almammy, passed a law that made it illegal to take enslaved Africans through his kingdom. To let (1470 – 1800) Europeans know how serious the law was, the king returned the presents French slave traders sent as bribes. Queen Nzingha of Angola fought a successful 30-year war against the slave traders of Portugal until the Portuguese negotiated a treaty with her in 1656. Their treaty remained in effect until she died in 1663.
The intrusion of a foreign element into an "ecosystem" will always have a bad impact on the whole ecology. the european outlook of slavery was different from the average Tribal outlook. This was the point when the 2 systems artificially collided and resulted in damage of the existing system. The system was further disrupted, with foreign slavers installing their own choice of puppet kings on the throne to further insinuate their vile acts. An example is the installation of a pro-slaver ruler on the thron of Dahomey, by the brazilian half-bred slave traders.
Lewis346 READ THIS & POST #9 by Folykaze ALSO from FIFA
Also the European fans in this video confirms it was racism that FIFA due to his country of origin that he wasn't officially awarded Ballon d'Or, even though he was name twice by FIFA, as confirmed in their Twitter yesterday.
Whatever U don't actually believe you are teaching Me the history of my ancestors, when you know nothing about Akwa Ibom state or Cross River State. Seems U can't read, when did I say AkwaCross movies is based in Lagos Didn't I write that its a movie industry base in Uyo, that began in 2009 & brought that name AkwaCross to the actual state of AKS. I've encountered people like you b4 on this blog who caused my Ibibio ancestors to be insulted most turned out not be from AKS at all or mixed & none grew up in AKS like Blackking98. It seems that U just ranting away gibberish. U can go to this 3 thread to address the Efiks & Orons themselves about their history, convince them to acknowledge the Ibibio chief judge that's married to an Efik. I don't care about your issues with Igbos/IPOB, they don't have anything to do with the tension & resentment of generations btwn Akwa Ibom state & Cross River State. Convince the actual Efiks and Orons including Annangs etc that they were Ibibio before in these threads below; https://www.nairaland.com/4110925/ini-edo-rocks-ibibio-traditional/1#87478087
KingOKON: Just like us the Igbos have the Ngwas, Bendes, Afikpos, Nris, mbise, Orlu, Wawas, Akwa and many other clusters that form the IBO group. The language varies deeply compare to the dialect spoken in Akwaibom down to Southern cross river. The word AkwaCross predates any movie industry, it is what has been used since the creation of Akwaibom mainly by all former indigenes of CrossRiver living in Lagos, Rivers, Pleateu etc states whenever they have meetings. In lagos since the 1990s it is a well know group in different part of the state with members my father, uncles being one.
When the Ibibio Union was formed in 1914 or thereabout, there was nothing like Ibibio, Anang, Oron, Eket the merchant of light that were sent on scholarship to Europe were all under the Ibibios umbrella. The man that introduced the ethnic divide into the AkwaCross region was Nnamdi Azikiwe simply to spite and divide the agitation of the COR( Calabar Ogoja Rivers) proponents, the Obong of Calabar being at the front. He created Chiefs and recognized them while nothing of such was done in the core IBO areas where the Obi lord over. Below is just a review of a book I will like you to check out. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2676026666023556&id=100008487468798&refid=17&_ft_=mf_story_key.2676026666023556%3Atop_level_post_id.2676026666023556%3Atl_objid.2676026666023556%3Acontent_owner_id_new.100008487468798%3Aoriginal_content_id.4186019478086013%3Aoriginal_content_owner_id.100000340055546%3Athrowback_story_fbid.2676026666023556%3Astory_location.4%3Aattached_story_attachment_style.photo%3Athid.100008487468798%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1625122799%3A3694471018765038809&__tn__=%2AW-R&_rdr. https://www.nairaland.com/4469353/unravelling-itu-land-amazing-historical
Even in places like USA & Europe, infact outside Nigeria. There's not much divide of ethnic groups, most people all get along as Nigerians and join Nigerian churches. So people from AKS & CRS forming a group together in States outside Akwa Ibom, isn't a big deal AkwaCross Ibibio movie producer started producing the movies set in Lagos & AKS, so he might have lived in Lagos before moving to Uyo, and taken the name from the organization, I don't doubt that. Am talking about in Akwa Ibom and Cross River States, that such a combination group doesn't exist, except in the movies. Do you know the meaning of Efik Ask your father, because seems like you grew up in Lagos or outside Akwa Ibom state. The meaning of Efik is Opress, given to them by Ibibios & other groups that didn't get along with them. Efiks have that name before the European colonizers arrived. They even proudly called themselves; Efik Eburutu. So if they got along as U claim, why would others like Ibibio call them " The Opressors"? Oron form their own Oron Union in 1925 few years before the British recognize & approved Ibibio State Union. So how were they members of Ibibio Union? What has Azikiwe an Igbo man, who might not even have known the differences between the groups, got to do with Efik Eburutu and Ibibios? Is he the one that demarcated Akwa Ibom state from Efiks in Cross River State?
SlayerForever: Hmm. Very very interesting. So there's actually a divide between Erik and Ibibio? Is this divide that pronounced? Because from an outsider's perspective such divide hardly exists. I actually thought Efik would go with Ibom republic as default. Many AKS people like to form familiarity with Efik CRS people here like you guys are best of companions. So Efik is not going too? I'd think not though.
Again, I must ask, in all honesty, if AKS groups like Ibibio, Annang, Oron, Eket, Ibeno all have similar culture and language then why are they so standoffish with each other? It's shocking. Give me some insights please. Thank you.
& Igboid There has always been a huge divide between Efik and Ibibios; that's why AKS was created out of the old CRS. The resentment is extreme with constant degoratory comments, when ever the 2groups are mentioned together. Infact just go through my post history replies to as recently as last year.
Again like I said Eket & Ibeno are a sub-group of Ibibio. They're like Ikwerre version of Ibibio without the denials. Obolo is ijaw, Oron is a sub-group of Efik & so holds similar resentment of Efik against Ibibio. Annang are a separate group with their own unique culture etc... All these groups can be comparable to Ijaws and Igalas living with Igbos in the same state/area and influencing each other especially in language & food. But still maintaining most of their unique cultural identities and beliefs... etc. U CAN READ THESE DIFFERENCES IN DETAILS HERE IN THIS THREAD; https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people
Igboid: Good and fine. But you have to know you have your own "Ikwerre" problem right in Ibeno and Eastern Obolo. If given the choice to choose, they would cut you Ibibio and Annang off and proclaim independence too, like you Ibibios have cut Cross River off. So I would advise you all calm down. I hope this your quest for Ibom country is not hinged on offshore oil wealth in Ibeno and Eastern Obolo, because you might get a rude awakening. Be sure you are ready to still have this Ibom country with or without Eastern Obolo and Ibeno, because the way I see it, that's likely going to be the outcome. The FG will simply give Eastern Obolo and Ibeno autonomy from you hinterland Annang and Ibibios, and your game will be up. And the Oron seem to want their own independence too. There was an Oron guy here in 2009 who was campaigning for Oron independent country, and you have to know that Oron feel more affiliated to Efik than to you Ibibios and Annangs. From my angle here, your Ibom country is standing on shaky ground and wouldn't be very hard to squash using fissure lines already existing in the state by deploying efficient divide and rule tactics.
& SlayerForever U must be mistaking Oron for Ibeno Yes Oron are a sub-group of Efik in AKS. If you read the link of the thread that explained the differences in detail. U would've read that people like U equate Oron & Eket to "Ikwerre denial". But I took time to explain & I will again. Oron practice the exact same traditions, beliefs like Efik. Though their language is like Efik language mixed with another difficult to understand language which is why they speak Efik as their 2nd language. Eket are a sub-group of Ibibio their dialect is like Oron version of Ibibio, which is why they speak normal Ibibio as a 2nd language. Ibeno 1LGA is a part of Eket that their dialect is like Eket influence by Obolo language, becos they're betwn Eket & Obolo. But just like Eket, they practice the same traditions and beliefs like Ibibio. Since Eket dialect is like Ibibio influence by Oron because some of their LGA are close to each other. Oron used to be closer a bit to Eket out of all the other Ibibio groups, they felt that Eket were not truly Ibibios but just decided to be counted as Ibibio during the colonial period for influence. But that relationship went SOUR during the war, allegedly when a top general of Eket sold Oron out to be Bomb That was when Oron realized that Eket were true Ibibios. We Ibibios don't claim any tribe that's not Ibibio. Also Oron get along with Annang than Ibibios. It's the same resentment that Efik has against Ibibio, is what Oron has. If not for the Cross River dividing their land, Oron should've been part of CRS. If the Ibom republic included Efik. The insult in this thread, would have been Extreme. Actually 2state was to be carved out of the former CRS. Akwa Ibom & Itai State for Annang. For now Annang have some understanding with Ibibios, but tomorrow Annangs can campaign for their Itai State kingdom. It wouldn't change anything, because all those groups weren't part of Ibibio State Union. Only different Ibibio subgroup were part of it. Obolo is just 1small LGA & Oron wants to form a nation with them, it's the Obolos that want to include the 1Ibeno LGA. But Oron knowing that Ibeno is a part of Eket, and learning their lesson from the past, will not be comfortable with that. Including Ibeno would be like including Ibibio that they want to separate from Finally there's nothing like "AKWA CROSS" that's just term that was form in 2009 to market Ibibio language movie made in AKS in Cross River State. They often included 1-2character speaking Efik in the movie. If you Google Efik & Ibibio, u will read the extreme degoratory insult by Orons & Efiks, saying that Ibibios are stealing & wearing Efik outfit & tradition like Ekpe..etc. Including the "Calabar people", they say Ibibios are claiming to be Calabar people & becoming house boys to tarnish the true Calabar peoples image Not realizing that it's strangers like U that insist on this false labels and viewing us all as the same people in denial
bluefilm: Another set of jokers have entered the scene. Ibom Republic indeed !!!
@Michoim Mind your business @IPIGSRMUMUS, Doublecross, Sleekfingers, Abbaemma & Domnwan This is not a Joke! We've fought this fight with the colonial British and we were recognize by them 50yrs b4 Biafra. Educate urself with this link; https://www.jstor.org/stable/485085?seq=1 @Cheruv By saying "Mmogho" am guessing you are trying to pronounce Efik Mmon. We Ibibios don't use that word, so you are WRONG to put us together Learn Our differences in the thread below⬇️ @Oyatz U can read the differences in this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people @INCREDIBLE007 language is actually more similar, the main differences is culture, tradition..Read more from above thread.
Billyonaire666: Ibom Kingdom. Will be a country, like none other.
Yes offcos it will be the Best @NnadyAutos When I was telling people like you last year, that besides not wanting to be part of Biafra, we Ibibios don't want to be part of Niger Delta republic either, that we wanted to revive back our old Ibibio State Union, you all thought I was joking and exaggerating I even had this link in my profile for the past year, yet non believe. https://www.jstor.org/stable/485085?seq=1 @IDENNAA no we're not the same people. @OGWILLS123 ORON can join their kins in Efik kingdom.