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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 4:52pm On Nov 23, 2021
Afam4eva:

I'm not saying that they are exactly the same.
But I have a simple question: Can an Efik person understand what an Ibibio person is saying and vice-versa?
They Are Not the same at all, they don't share origin or traditions like Ikwerre & Igbo.
As for the languages, they can understand each other to an extent, just like a Spanish person can understand Italian, except they've lived in each other region, before they can understand more.
Having lived in Calabar & Abak, I can explain these in more details.

Comparison to Spanish/French/Italian in greeting, How are you?
Annang: Atie die?/Atie lie? Ibibio: Aba die? Efik: Etie didie? (die pronounce as Dear)

Spanish: Cómo estás? French: Comment ça va? Italian : Come sta ?

More details;
  Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke.
Words can also be completely different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.
 
Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house.  2) This is my house
  Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami
  Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi
Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.
So you can now see these differences in languages and judge for yourself if they can understand each other.

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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 4:09pm On Nov 21, 2021
@Afam4eva
U can clearly see the differences here in dressing.

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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 3:49pm On Nov 21, 2021
Afam4eva:

This same thing you said about Ikwere and Igbo, just replace it with Urhobo and Isoko or
Efik and Ibibio so that you can understand where i'm coming. That's not to say that you don't have a point in your assessment of the situation. But like i said Ikwerre people do not see it with the same eyes that Igbos see it. Why you may think all "Bia" speaking people or people who call God all the variations of Chi/Chukwu should be Igbo, Ikwerres do not have that same school of thought. As far as they know, every village can be a tribe. Little wonder Rivers state has one of the largest concentration of ethnic groups even though most of those ethnic groups understand each other to some extent.
How Many Times am I going to explain to people like you, that Efiik & Ibibio are not the same due to different cultural, traditions, original beliefs, infact the languages aren't that similar; except you consider French & Spanish the same undecided
The only group that U can compare to Ibibio is Eket, whom are like ikwerre and Igbo, but they don't deny being Ibibio. They consider themselves subgroup of Ibibio.
Oron is the most similar group to Efiik in Akwa Ibom State, they also acknowledge their relationship with Efiks. So if Oron sharing same state with Ibibio aren't even similar, how much more Efik in another state
   Again Here are the differences between Efik and Ibibio

Re: Mixed Tribes by ibibiogrl: 1 year & 8 months
Aloy.Emeka:
No difference. Efiks and ibibios are the same. Both understand each others dialect, same language, similar culture and very tiny differences. Even the neighboring igbo don't know the difference. Efiks and ibibios are the least violent specie of Nigerians.

There are many differences between Efik and Ibibio, difference in dressing Efik wear a gown and Elaborate hair dress etc. Ibibio tie 2 wrappers with a blouse, like most south easterners but without coral beads. Also difference in marriage traditions, Efiks coach the bride to be in fattening rooms and there are ceremonies before the actual marriage, ibibios don't. Efik traditions is Rule by Ekpe secret society, Ibibio don't have Ekpe, different traditional gods and different greetings. There are many other differences, the only similarity between Efik and Ibibio is the food and language; although most young Ibibios growing up in Akwa Ibom will only understand a little Efik in the future, since Efik language isn't used in Akwa Ibom.
The most similar ethnic group in Akwa Ibom to Efik is Oron. Please refer to this websites for pictures;
Efik http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html and Efik https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/10
Ibibio https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/16
Just as Efik and Ibibio differs Annang also has same differences, but Ananng dress more like the ibibios.
Read more details in difference in this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people

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TV/Movies / Re: Halyna Hutchins: See Last Photo Of The Woman That Was Shot By Alec Baldwin by ibibiogrl: 1:15am On Oct 30, 2021
Nanaborga:

Which kind nonsense accidental shooting , was the photographer a part of the movie cast , why did he direct the gun to her in the first place and also the other director that was injured ?
uunwanaobong3:

My guy, accidental shooting does not affect two people at the same time... He shot the first person and then proceed to shot at the second person all of which are not part movie acting role... And being that alec baldwin has had a history of accidental discharge, why didnt he check the gun himself before firing....... But lucky for him, he is a friend to biden and democrat and a lover of the media.
The whole crew members will be charged in various ways but alec balwic will walk free without any charge and the media will bury the story soon. That is democrat for u.
SavageResponse:

Why did Alec even fire at a member of the crew is not even an actress?
There are some type of play a person should not engage in!
EagleNest:
But why firing it to Director of Photography on set? Was she acting as well? Was it part of the script or just pure temptation to fire?
He was aiming/pointing the gun & firing at the camera. Unfortunately as she was the director of photography, she was directly behind the camera embarassed The other director that was wounded on the shoulder was standing close by sad
Culture / Re: What's The Difference Between Ibibio, Efik And Annang? by ibibiogrl: 5:19am On Aug 23, 2021
bigfrancis21:

To me, all 3 are dialects of each other. They understand themselves when they speak yet identify as 3 different tribes (the common thing in south south). In Igbo and Yoruba lands we have a unifying dialect that unites all different dialects, which is missing in the awka ibom and calabar axis. Similar story among the bini-esan people.
@midnighter & mrvitalis
They're Not dialect of each other & The difference was already explained here;
https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people

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Religion / Re: Pagan/traditional Rulers Sold Us To Slavery To The Whites- Inviting Pagan9ja &co by ibibiogrl: 11:50am On Aug 15, 2021
@Lewis346
Africans are thought to be the poorest worldwide, U agree but don't agree on poverty contributing to the situation in Nigeria, Yet using that poverty logic to excuse gang violence & gun murder in AfroAmerican communities. angry
According to this map, Texas isn't that Rich compared to the cities in east coast where gun violence is at the highest in black American counties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate
Also according to this Houston isn't that much better than Chicago
https://upgradedhome.com/chicago-vs-houston/#Job_Market
Ure confusing Competition with wanting to be like Europeans.
Nigerians are notorious for adapting ideas & making it better than the original. America is dominated by Whites, so Nigeriand will always compete with the best. That's how they became the most educated ethnic group. Right now they're trying to be the richest. Most of your points was heresay undecided How can they warn their children against Akatas b4 even arriving in USA, when their priority is being the best at whatever country they migrate to. Majority marry this same AfroAmericans that they were supposed to be avoiding. undecided
I already told U slavery was a business like drug dealing. Also majority were kidnappers, such won't limit their commodities, especially since women & children would be easier to capture. Do drug dealers limit their customer pool?
Again colonial rule in Nigeria was indirectly from 1900-1960. just 60yrs & indirect rule so they barely had interaction with whites, U saw many white Brazilian worshipping the Yoruba King didn't U? Search 4 Uhuru dynasty, has said that Nigeria is the African country least dominated by whites & other foreigners in wealth. U should subscribe to his Chanel.
Read this article now 4rm someone with your similar experience with whites has explained how Nigerians feel about race.
https://africasacountry.com/2019/04/why-im-no-longer-talking-to-nigerians-about-race

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Religion / Re: Pagan/traditional Rulers Sold Us To Slavery To The Whites- Inviting Pagan9ja &co by ibibiogrl: 9:45am On Aug 15, 2021
PAGAN9JA:
Let me reply since this thread was directed to me.

1) Pagan/Traditional Rulers and Tribal Chiefs NEVER sold their own people to the slavers. So stop saying this "our ancestors sold us" bull****.
2)As Tribals, only the welfare and benifit of our own tribes and ethnic groups mattered. We had no obligation to members of other ethnic groups.
3)Before the europeans came, there was a uniform system of warfare, trade and slavery, whereby the populations were naturally kept in check/balanced through these constant raids carried out on each other. A very recent example on a different level, can be seen among the raids and counter raids of Southern Sudanese on each others cattle, depending on grazing patterns and who is more drought affected. (which results in these drought affect raiders seeking better pastures for capturing the cattle of other tribes). The same exact situation can be noted among the Bedu Arab Tribals, 50-100 years back, before the discovery of oil.

4)The conquerors had no personal/racist bias against the slaves. In the African system, slaves were treated as part of the family, incorporated into trade guilds (if young, they served as apprentices), and later on even rose to higher ranks, especially so if they were from distinctly related ethnic groups. E.g., Jaja of Opobo, Tuareg Bella, etc.

5)The forms of slavery in Africa were closely related to kinship structures.Many slave relationships in Africa revolved around domestic slavery, where slaves would work primarily in the house of the master but retain some freedoms. Domestic slaves could be considered part of the master's household and would not be sold to others without extreme cause. The slaves could own the profits from their labor (whether in land or in products) and could marry and pass the land on to their children in many cases. slaves were not tortured, forcibly converted, starved, sent abroad to a point of no return, packed in crowded ships like animals, etc. Owing to their close proximity to their own tribal territories, they had a chance to return back to their ethnic group, either by buying their way out, or by being re-captured in a counter-raid.

Pawnship, or debt bondage slavery, involves the use of people as collateral to secure the repayment of debt. Slave labor is performed by the debtor, or a relative of the debtor. Pawnship was a common form of collateral in West Africa. It involved the pledge of a person, or a member of that person's family, to service another person providing credit. Pawnship was a common practice throughout West Africa prior to European contact, including amongst the Akan people, the Ewe people, the Ga people, the Yoruba people, and the Edo people (in modified forms, it also existed amongst the Efik people, the Igbo people, the Ijaw people, and the Fon people).
Military slavery involved the acquisition and training of conscripted military units which would retain the identity of military slaves even after their service.

[b]The viewpoint that “Africans” enslaved “Africans” is obfuscating if not troubling. The deployment of “African” in African history tends to coalesce into obscurantist constructions of identities that allow scholars, for instance, to subtly call into question the humanity of “all” Africans. Whenever Asante rulers sold non-Asantes into slavery, they did not construct it in terms of Africans selling fellow Africans. They saw the victims for what they were, for instance, as Akuapems, without categorizing them as fellow Africans. Equally, when Christian Scandinavians and Russians sold war captives to the Islamic people of the Abbasid Empire, they didn’t think that they were placing fellow Europeans into slavery. This lazy categorizing homogenizes Africans and has become a part of the methodology of African history; not surprisingly, the Western media’s cottage industry on Africa has tapped into it to frame Africans in inchoate generalities allowing the media to describe local crisis in one African state as “African” problem.[/b]
—Dr. Akurang-Parry, Ending the Slavery Blame-Game

6)the pattern of slavery in the African continent was similar in nature to that practiced by the Pagan Romans, earlier. There was no racist or personal bias. It was all part of the system of warfare.

7) Our traditional rulers were ignorant of conditions in the americas, until much later when the situation got extensive and out of hand. They truly realised the extent when the british govt., who after abolishing slavery, contacted many rulers to take a step forward and explained the suffereings of slaves abroad. This was the point when britain herself started sending out anti-slavery naval fleets. After this, many of our traditional rulers and even Queens start advocating against slavery. I do not remember the names, but I think chief advocates were among the Benin/Dahomey Empires, who were centrally involved in the trade. King Ansah of Ghana had the Fante people watch for European ships, and prevented them from coming ashore.

King Nzenga Maremba of Kongo tried to stop the slave trade in the Congo only after he originally participated in the trade in exchange for military items and support from Portugal. King Maremba agreed to release his African prisoners of war to the Portuguese who wanted the best (1470 - 1800) young African men as a bargaining chip to be sure the King kept his word. The Portuguese promised to train and educate the young men to become priests and later to return them to the Congo. King Meremba let the Portuguese convince him to take the Christian name, Alfonso, as a show of support. He was even forced to convert to christianity by the missionaries, in order to compromise for the benefit of his people. When Alfonso asked for the return of a few of his former prisoners, who had been trained to serve as physicians, surgeons, pharmacists, assistants for shipbuilders and carpenters, his requests were denied. After having his requests denied several times, King Alfonso learned that his prisoners of war had been sold as slaves in Portugal. In 1526, King Alfonso wrote to King John III, the former King of Portugal, and asked for his help in ending the slave trade in the Congo. He explained the freedoms that were given to the Portuguese, who had set up shops, become merchants in the Congo and had amassed fortunes. The people in the Congo could not do the same because they had complied with the agreement and now did not have the same abundance of wealth as the invaders. King Alfonso related that the damage was so great that his people and land were being seized daily. King Alfonso ended his letter to King John III with another request for his help because it was the will of the people in the Congo and other kingdoms that there should not be any trading of slaves nor markets for slaves.

In 1777, King Agadja, a Dahomean monarch, captured an Englishman and his slave raiding party who had entered his kingdom looking for more Africans. The Englishman and his crew were released after they promised to return all the Africans they had captured. King Agadja gave the Englishmen a warning to take to the rulers of England, that if any other slave traders were sent to his Kingdom, or other kingdoms, they would be killed. In 1787, the Senegal King of Almammy, passed a law that made it illegal to take enslaved Africans through his kingdom. To let (1470 – 1800) Europeans know how serious the law was, the king returned the presents French slave traders sent as bribes. Queen Nzingha of Angola fought a successful 30-year war against the slave traders of Portugal until the Portuguese negotiated a treaty with her in 1656. Their treaty remained in effect until she died in 1663.

coolThe intrusion of a foreign element into an "ecosystem" will always have a bad impact on the whole ecology. the european outlook of slavery was different from the average Tribal outlook.
This was the point when the 2 systems artificially collided and resulted in damage of the existing system.
The system was further disrupted, with foreign slavers installing their own choice of puppet kings on the throne to further insinuate their vile acts. An example is the installation of a pro-slaver ruler on the thron of Dahomey, by the brazilian half-bred slave traders.
Lewis346 READ THIS & POST #9 by Folykaze
ALSO from FIFA https://mobile.twitter.com/FIFAcom/status/1426469140731150339
Also the European fans in this video confirms it was racism that FIFA due to his country of origin that he wasn't officially awarded Ballon d'Or, even though he was name twice by FIFA, as confirmed in their Twitter yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niipt8tgTEk

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Politics / Re: Niger Delta Groups React To Ibom Republic Request For Self Determination by ibibiogrl: 1:12am On Jun 27, 2021
KingOKON:
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Who in lagos ever heard of AkwaCross movies? Who knew anything about movies of AkwaCross if not for "Okon Lagos "when far as back as the eras of Abiola contesting June 12 election AkwaCross Union was already a known union.
https://punchng.com/as-a-monarch-i-still-lecture-at-the-university-ndidem-of-qua/
Whatever undecided U don't actually believe you are teaching Me the history of my ancestors, when you know nothing about Akwa Ibom state or Cross River State.
Seems U can't read, when did I say AkwaCross movies is based in Lagos Didn't I write that its a movie industry base in Uyo, that began in 2009 & brought that name AkwaCross to the actual state of AKS.
I've encountered people like you b4 on this blog who caused my Ibibio ancestors to be insulted angry most turned out not be from AKS at all or mixed & none grew up in AKS like Blackking98. It seems that U just ranting away gibberish.
U can go to this 3 thread to address the Efiks & Orons themselves about their history, convince them to acknowledge the Ibibio chief judge that's married to an Efik.
I don't care about your issues with Igbos/IPOB, they don't have anything to do with the tension & resentment of generations btwn Akwa Ibom state & Cross River State.
Convince the actual Efiks and Orons including Annangs etc that they were Ibibio before in these threads below;
https://www.nairaland.com/4110925/ini-edo-rocks-ibibio-traditional/1#87478087

https://www.nairaland.com/2700287/dialects-ibibio-where-spoken/13#39659487

https://www.nairaland.com/5717435/cross-river-assembly-rejects-ikpeme

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Politics / Re: Niger Delta Groups React To Ibom Republic Request For Self Determination by ibibiogrl: 12:24pm On Jun 26, 2021
KingOKON:

Just like us the Igbos have the Ngwas, Bendes, Afikpos, Nris, mbise, Orlu, Wawas, Akwa and many other clusters that form the IBO group.
The language varies deeply compare to the dialect spoken in Akwaibom down to Southern cross river.
The word AkwaCross predates any movie industry, it is what has been used since the creation of Akwaibom mainly by all former indigenes of CrossRiver living in Lagos, Rivers, Pleateu etc states whenever they have meetings.
In lagos since the 1990s it is a well know group in different part of the state with members my father, uncles being one.

When the Ibibio Union was formed in 1914 or thereabout, there was nothing like Ibibio, Anang, Oron, Eket the merchant of light that were sent on scholarship to Europe were all under the Ibibios umbrella.
The man that introduced the ethnic divide into the AkwaCross region was Nnamdi Azikiwe simply to spite and divide the agitation of the COR( Calabar Ogoja Rivers) proponents, the Obong of Calabar being at the front.
He created Chiefs and recognized them while nothing of such was done in the core IBO areas where the Obi lord over.
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Even in places like USA & Europe, infact outside Nigeria. There's not much divide of ethnic groups, most people all get along as Nigerians and join Nigerian churches. So people from AKS & CRS forming a group together in States outside Akwa Ibom, isn't a big deal undecided
AkwaCross Ibibio movie producer started producing the movies set in Lagos & AKS, so he might have lived in Lagos before moving to Uyo, and taken the name from the organization, I don't doubt that. Am talking about in Akwa Ibom and Cross River States, that such a combination group doesn't exist, except in the movies.
Do you know the meaning of Efik Ask your father, because seems like you grew up in Lagos or outside Akwa Ibom state. The meaning of Efik is Opress, given to them by Ibibios & other groups that didn't get along with them. Efiks have that name before the European colonizers arrived. They even proudly called themselves; Efik Eburutu. So if they got along as U claim, why would others like Ibibio call them " The Opressors"? shocked
Oron form their own Oron Union in 1925 few years before the British recognize & approved Ibibio State Union. So how were they members of Ibibio Union?
What has Azikiwe an Igbo man, who might not even have known the differences between the groups, got to do with Efik Eburutu and Ibibios? Is he the one that demarcated Akwa Ibom state from Efiks in Cross River State?

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Politics / Re: Niger Delta Groups React To Ibom Republic Request For Self Determination by ibibiogrl: 3:29pm On Jun 23, 2021
SlayerForever:

Hmm. Very very interesting. So there's actually a divide between Erik and Ibibio? Is this divide that pronounced? Because from an outsider's perspective such divide hardly exists. I actually thought Efik would go with Ibom republic as default. Many AKS people like to form familiarity with Efik CRS people here like you guys are best of companions. So Efik is not going too? I'd think not though.

Again, I must ask, in all honesty, if AKS groups like Ibibio, Annang, Oron, Eket, Ibeno all have similar culture and language then why are they so standoffish with each other? It's shocking. Give me some insights please. Thank you.
& Igboid
There has always been a huge divide between Efik and Ibibios; that's why AKS was created out of the old CRS. The resentment is extreme with constant degoratory comments, when ever the 2groups are mentioned together. Infact just go through my post history replies to as recently as last year. sad

Again like I said Eket & Ibeno are a sub-group of Ibibio. They're like Ikwerre version of Ibibio without the denials.
Obolo is ijaw, Oron is a sub-group of Efik & so holds similar resentment of Efik against Ibibio. Annang are a separate group with their own unique culture etc... All these groups can be comparable to Ijaws and Igalas living with Igbos in the same state/area and influencing each other especially in language & food. But still maintaining most of their unique cultural identities and beliefs... etc.
U CAN READ THESE DIFFERENCES IN DETAILS HERE IN THIS THREAD; https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people

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Politics / Re: Niger Delta Groups React To Ibom Republic Request For Self Determination by ibibiogrl: 10:01pm On Jun 22, 2021
Igboid:

Good and fine.
But you have to know you have your own "Ikwerre" problem right in Ibeno and Eastern Obolo.
If given the choice to choose, they would cut you Ibibio and Annang off and proclaim independence too, like you Ibibios have cut Cross River off.
So I would advise you all calm down.
I hope this your quest for Ibom country is not hinged on offshore oil wealth in Ibeno and Eastern Obolo, because you might get a rude awakening.
Be sure you are ready to still have this Ibom country with or without Eastern Obolo and Ibeno, because the way I see it, that's likely going to be the outcome. The FG will simply give Eastern Obolo and Ibeno autonomy from you hinterland Annang and Ibibios, and your game will be up.
And the Oron seem to want their own independence too.
There was an Oron guy here in 2009 who was campaigning for Oron independent country, and you have to know that Oron feel more affiliated to Efik than to you Ibibios and Annangs.
From my angle here, your Ibom country is standing on shaky ground and wouldn't be very hard to squash using fissure lines already existing in the state by deploying efficient divide and rule tactics.
& SlayerForever
U must be mistaking Oron for Ibeno undecided Yes Oron are a sub-group of Efik in AKS. If you read the link of the thread that explained the differences in detail. U would've read that people like U equate Oron & Eket to "Ikwerre denial". But I took time to explain & I will again.
Oron practice the exact same traditions, beliefs like Efik. Though their language is like Efik language mixed with another difficult to understand language which is why they speak Efik as their 2nd language.
Eket are a sub-group of Ibibio their dialect is like Oron version of Ibibio, which is why they speak normal Ibibio as a 2nd language.
Ibeno 1LGA is a part of Eket that their dialect is like Eket influence by Obolo language, becos they're betwn Eket & Obolo. But just like Eket, they practice the same traditions and beliefs like Ibibio.
Since Eket dialect is like Ibibio influence by Oron because some of their LGA are close to each other. Oron used to be closer a bit to Eket out of all the other Ibibio groups, they felt that Eket were not truly Ibibios but just decided to be counted as Ibibio during the colonial period for influence.
But that relationship went SOUR during the war, allegedly when a top general of Eket sold Oron out to be Bomb shocked That was when Oron realized that Eket were true Ibibios.
We Ibibios don't claim any tribe that's not Ibibio. Also Oron get along with Annang than Ibibios. It's the same resentment that Efik has against Ibibio, is what Oron has. If not for the Cross River dividing their land, Oron should've been part of CRS. If the Ibom republic included Efik. The insult in this thread, would have been Extreme. sad
Actually 2state was to be carved out of the former CRS. Akwa Ibom & Itai State for Annang. For now Annang have some understanding with Ibibios, but tomorrow Annangs can campaign for their Itai State kingdom. It wouldn't change anything, because all those groups weren't part of Ibibio State Union. Only different Ibibio subgroup were part of it.
Obolo is just 1small LGA & Oron wants to form a nation with them, it's the Obolos that want to include the 1Ibeno LGA. But Oron knowing that Ibeno is a part of Eket, and learning their lesson from the past, will not be comfortable with that. Including Ibeno would be like including Ibibio that they want to separate from smiley
Finally there's nothing like "AKWA CROSS" that's just term that was form in 2009 to market Ibibio language movie made in AKS in Cross River State. They often included 1-2character speaking Efik in the movie. If you Google Efik & Ibibio, u will read the extreme degoratory insult by Orons & Efiks, saying that Ibibios are stealing & wearing Efik outfit & tradition like Ekpe..etc. Including the "Calabar people", they say Ibibios are claiming to be Calabar people & becoming house boys to tarnish the true Calabar peoples image undecided
Not realizing that it's strangers like U that insist on this false labels and viewing us all as the same people in denial angry

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Politics / Re: Niger Delta Groups React To Ibom Republic Request For Self Determination by ibibiogrl: 12:12pm On Jun 21, 2021
Workch:
lol, who will allow you form a country? grin
@Gidgiddy,TheTranslator, Elock1, Armaggedon
This is not a Joke! We've fought this fight with the colonial British and we were recognize by them 50yrs b4 Biafra. Educate urselfs with this link; https://www.jstor.org/stable/485085?seq=1
@Igboid we can't carry them along we aren't the same. U can read our difference in this thread; https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people
Politics / Re: Ibom Republic: Akwa Ibom Coalition Storms UN, Plans To Leave Nigeria by ibibiogrl: 3:48am On Jun 20, 2021
bluefilm:
Another set of jokers have entered the scene.
Ibom Republic indeed !!!
@Michoim Mind your business angry
@IPIGSRMUMUS, Doublecross, Sleekfingers, Abbaemma & Domnwan
This is not a Joke! We've fought this fight with the colonial British and we were recognize by them 50yrs b4 Biafra. Educate urself with this link; https://www.jstor.org/stable/485085?seq=1
@Cheruv By saying "Mmogho" am guessing you are trying to pronounce Efik Mmon. We Ibibios don't use that word, so you are WRONG to put us together angry Learn Our differences in the thread below⬇️
@Oyatz U can read the differences in this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people
@INCREDIBLE007 language is actually more similar, the main differences is culture, tradition..Read more from above thread.

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Politics / Re: Ibom Republic: Akwa Ibom Coalition Storms UN, Plans To Leave Nigeria by ibibiogrl: 2:15am On Jun 20, 2021
Billyonaire666:
Ibom Kingdom. Will be a country, like none other.
grin
Yes offcos it will be the Best grin
@NnadyAutos When I was telling people like you last year, that besides not wanting to be part of Biafra, we Ibibios don't want to be part of Niger Delta republic either, that we wanted to revive back our old Ibibio State Union, you all thought I was joking and exaggerating undecided
I even had this link in my profile for the past year, yet non believe.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/485085?seq=1
@IDENNAA no we're not the same people.
@OGWILLS123 ORON can join their kins in Efik kingdom.

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Culture / Re: 11 Factual Similarities Between The Igbo And Ibibio-efik Peoples by ibibiogrl: 1:43pm On May 28, 2021
espionagesavvy:

Good one.
Arochukwu was inhabited by the Ibibio people people igbo groups came from further west. A war was fought and the Ibibios lost. They migrated further south and those who didnt were assimilated. A lot of Abia people still bear Ibibio sounding surnames and a lot of cultural assimilation took place aided by marriages etc. The core igbo group, undiluted are those from Anambra/Imo north, that is the igbo center group. Abians have a lot on common with Efik/Ibibio. They even look similar. You would have a hard time telling an Ibibio person apart from an Abian. Anambra people look different and their behavior are different. They possess that enterprising spirit of the Igbos the most.
Really undecided I have read this argument once before.
Click on these topics below & tell me the difference between them and Anambra Igbos
https://www.nairaland.com/920423/beauty-calabar-akwa-ibom-women

https://www.nairaland.com/478074/post-pictures-traditional-weddings/16

https://www.nairaland.com/190528/michael-okon-too-hot

http://connoisseurng..com/2012/03/okon-lagos-actor-ime-bishop-umoh.html

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Politics / Re: Ibibio Means Igbo Junior According To Mazi Nnamdi Kanu by ibibiogrl: 10:52am On May 24, 2020
Kamanuozuzu:
I have taken my time to see if anyone actually has a counter claim to what MNK said. None whatsoever! Rather, what they're interested in is name-calling and mud-slinging.
The question is...
Does IBIBIO mean IBO NTA or not?
At least, there're Nairalanders from IBIBIO here. They can help us out.
Ibibio has Nothing to do with Igbo. Ibibio =Ibio Ibio means brief in Ibibio and Efik language. While Annangs called Ibibio Ibieh because that's brief in their language, so it has nothing to do with Igbo. The name was given by the Efiks to Ibibio because of their brief way of doing things or being straight to the point in their traditions in comparison to Efik and other neighboring ethnic groups.

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Politics / Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by ibibiogrl: 6:26am On May 10, 2020
LordNicvuitton:

@nsiba, In-as-much as that thing, hammerP, has been disgracing his lineage (not Igbos) I admonish you to watch what word you use on Igbos. You and your tribe (read my lips properly), mean nothing to the Igbos. fact is that the only 2 tribes that compete on different intellectual and economic fronts are Igbos and Yorubas, irrespective of the tribalism.
Just like Pazienza and other true breed of Igbos have pointed out,
Truth is that no ethnicity down south, except for yoruba, can match Igbos, strength for strength, intellect for intellect or economy wise, so why should I need anybody that is not Igbo? I'm ashamed, deeply truly ashamed when i see idiots like hammerP licking the balls of these ones here. tueh!
I repeat again, the only healthy competition (not online keyboard war) in Nigeria are between the Yorubas and Igbos. All others play 2nd fiddle to that.
So why should I squabble with someone whose ethnicity is not up to Arochukwu of Abia or Mbano of Imo? it just doesn't make sense logically.
The debate has been healthy until all these clowns, trying so hard to bring their minute clans abi villages to rub shoulders with person wey no see them.
Kwashiman:

Bros the thing tire me... Na these shameless IPOB degenerates dey give those irrelevant minorities the mouth and ammunition to talk and fire shots at the greater Igbo nation. I'm not even sure the entire Ibibio/Efik ethnic nationality put together with all the jara dey dem get on top sef can measure up to 1/10 of the human development index and global achievements of my LGA in Imo state, not to mention the whole Igbo nation of 40 million or more people.
The mistake Ojukwu made was to include them into Biafra even though reason considering the circumstance of the time was justified, I believe if Biafra was an whole Igbo affair with some diplomatic relations with the minority areas for benefit of sea access etc, we should have won that war.
Seems U both don't know your Histories undecided You Should've Research here 1st on nairaland, to Learn the True Reasons that your people like to attach to mine and especially seek our support including Ojukwu. So because of your population now, U have the AUDACITY to Insult the people who gave civilization to your most educated ancient group (Aros) which you're proud to mention here angry
Let me give u a brief summary of ur history written by your elder;


By religious and ritual links we mean those provided by the Ibini Ukpabi oracle of the Aro, an institution known in many Cross River communities, especially among the Efik-Ibibio, as Ibritam. The Ibini Ukpabi itself was a typical product of the contact situation existing between the Igbo and the Ibibio. According to its social charter it was, in the beginning, a local god of an Ibibio group. Then it was captured by the Igbo slaves of this Ibibio group, who successfully rebelled against their servile status and sought to turn the table on their masters, who chose instead to flee the region. Under the control of these erstwhile Igbo slaves, the Ibini Ukpabi grew in influence to become, according to one authority, the most powerful oracle in West Africa by the nineteenth century.
Nigerian history, politics and affairs, Adiele Afigbo.
http://books.google.com/books?id=ez58Dwpa8JcC&pg=PA137
Even till today you guys are still bragging about Nsibidi and Ibin Ukpabi undecided but here claiming to be competing with Yorubas; because it was Yoruba that you learn civilization from

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Politics / Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by ibibiogrl: 10:22pm On May 08, 2020
hammerP:
THE CONFUSION HERE IS THAT MANY OF YOU ARE ACTIVE IN IPOB.
THE 10 PERCENT DERIVATIVES WILL DISAPPEAR IF OIL DONT SELL, SO VERY SOON PEOPLE LIKE IBIBIOGRL WILL EXPERIENCE WAT CROSS RIVERS IS EXPERIENCING SINCE THEY NO LONGER HAVE OIL WELL.
Who are these many You post a video of an individual that I've not even confirm undecided Then another that writes on Ghana blogs, whom I have never heard not seen on his page supporting Biafra. Besides AKS are not 1ethinicity, each group has it own agenda and belief. But I have not heard Biafra being 1of those agendas.
What has oil and gas got to do with the Great Ibibio state Nation, that is many decades older than Biafra? Did oil or gas exist during the colonial period You think that's all the natural resources that we have?
Or you don't want to believe that many Nation existed in Nigeria long before Biafra, which the British destroyed & group them together with other foreign Nations and Kingdoms. Which is the reason why there has always been so much tension with wars in Nigeria.
Research Ibibio state Union.

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Politics / Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by ibibiogrl: 7:57pm On May 08, 2020
hammerP:


U ARE A CONFUSED CONE HEAD, AFONJA SHAPESHIFTER.
TOMORROW U WILL CLAIM TO BE FROM BENUE.
BELOW IS AN AKWA IBOM SON, WITH HIS FACE ON CAMERA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0u-r73P23s
Stop INSULTING my Ibibio brother nsiba angry
I was mentioned by Nowenuse that's Y I came to this thread. I can't verify this video to know if this man is a true Akwa Ibommites :I don't even care to watch the video undecided What nsiba is telling you is the Truth, as there are some Igbos who claimed that some villages in Ukanafun are Igbo Yet I've confirm from Ukanafun indigines including the daughter of their Paramount ruler, that it doesn't exist. Some even claim Ikaannang shocked
Having grown up in Abak, I know Clayton Udoh personally, he's just looking fame undecided He doesn't even speak for his Annang group, his wife is a Ghanaian and so he writes a lot about the politics of Nigeria on most Ghanaian blogs.
Again we Ibibios do not care about any Biafra or Nigerdelta republic. We the bonafide Ibibios want to re-establish our dismantle Ibibio state Nation.
We form our own Nation and we're recognize by the British during the colonial Era, so why would we now want something else
Ibibio Nation is much more older than Biafra, confirm from my signature.

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Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 3:55am On May 01, 2020
nsiba:
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OK ....although you've already took him to the cleaners
Mbok stay safe oh
Thanks you too be safe smiley I would've liked for you to add yours like you did in the Urhobo man's thread.
Politics / Re: Cross River Assembly Rejects Ikpeme As Chief Justice Because She’s From AkwaIbom by ibibiogrl: 3:19am On May 01, 2020
nsiba:
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Aboikpa I cant forget what d co-ck at d first crow at dawn said about you
' she is you talk one, she talks 100 type"
Again just adjacent the Paramount ruler palace cool ibibiogrl hw r
Am Ok smiley U never responded to INSULTS on this thread by senatordave angry
https://www.nairaland.com/4110925/ini-edo-rocks-ibibio-traditional/1
Family / Re: Share Your Experience After Marrying Without Your Mother's Or Father's Consent by ibibiogrl: 4:30pm On Apr 05, 2020
nsiba:
ibibiogrl....stumbled unto this just now
Hmmm interesting smiley
Health / Re: Covid-19: Akwa Ibom Acquires Medical Equipment To Combat Coronavirus (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 11:47am On Apr 04, 2020
nsiba:

That's nice I like that, my aunty told me the way her felt so embarrassed when she went 2dat market
Said they gave her d leper treatment
They thought it will never come to AKS, but it was already there sad wonder what those market women were feeling after the result of the 5in AKS.
Health / Re: Covid-19: Akwa Ibom Acquires Medical Equipment To Combat Coronavirus (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 11:23am On Apr 04, 2020
nsiba:
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Wow! So true, who de give u info?
Am a know all see all grin Seriously the make videos of their experience & share it all over social media sad
Health / Re: Covid-19: Akwa Ibom Acquires Medical Equipment To Combat Coronavirus (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 11:16am On Apr 04, 2020
nsiba:
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Oh! Pardon me, Nigeria Medical Association
Seems u guys must put on a mask am not a fan
It's voluntarily recommended now, cos the numbers of infected keeps going up.
Nigerians were already wearing masks, some even complained about being mocked & discriminated against in Urua Akpanadem sad
Health / Re: Covid-19: Akwa Ibom Acquires Medical Equipment To Combat Coronavirus (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 1:16am On Apr 04, 2020
nsiba:

Kudos to the guy, the commissioner for health is better a village head. If he isn't fighting the NMA he is fighting God knows what, but with the recovery rate baby absolute nothing to fear
Abadia? Whats cooking over there
What's NMA?
Culture / Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by ibibiogrl: 3:03pm On Apr 03, 2020
bigfrancis21:

The spam bot triggers when you try to quote or make a new post with plenty quotes or referenced URLs to websites. Try to limit quoting posts that contain plenty quotes or URLS in them.
I thought you had fixed the issue, because I noticed a hidden post of mine that didn't have quotes or URL on hidden. I decided to edit it and added 1 link URL. I was immediately blocked again by Spambot for over 24hrs angry
If you can please unhide/unblock that post in this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/2297696/5-facts-should-know-efik/6
Health / Re: Covid-19: Akwa Ibom Acquires Medical Equipment To Combat Coronavirus (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 2:27pm On Apr 03, 2020
nsiba:
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Doctors from USA who came for medical outreach in police clinic uyo, medical doctors and health workers who worked with them are now being track
Wow shocked I saw the tweet from 1Editi Effiong talking about 800people were exposed and some showing symptoms, I thought he was exaggerating. sad
Health / Re: Covid-19: Akwa Ibom Acquires Medical Equipment To Combat Coronavirus (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 12:18am On Apr 02, 2020
nsiba:
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Babygirl 5 at blow lockdown will be sever come tomorrow
How did they get the virus shocked also which LGA
Health / Re: Covid-19: Akwa Ibom Acquires Medical Equipment To Combat Coronavirus (Photos) by ibibiogrl: 6:41pm On Apr 01, 2020
nsiba:
Aboikpa what do u think?.... ibibiogrl
Good if it's actually real, although not nearly enough for an epidemic sad Hopefully they don't need to use it, if the virus can spare the state.

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