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Celebrities / Re: Nigerian Singer, Mish Is Dead (Photo) by ibibiogrl: 5:51am On Mar 02
@Disstroy
Since you refused to READ, I will post more screenshots from the history pages you should read.
Orons say that they're related to Ibeno & Obolo.🤨
Do you know that Efik fought a war with Uruan, which was the final straw, that made them to leave Uruan 🤔

Some Uruan pursued to retrieve back their stolen royal properties, and killed some Efiks in the process, which is a major reason that Efiks do not trust Ibibios, yet Efik originated from Uruan according to your Historians 🙄
After the Efik had settled at Ikpa Ene, a party of men from Uruan arrived there.[27] The men were wet and complained of hunger and fatigue.[27] Having pity on these men, the Efik gave them food and showed them hospitality.[27] At night when everyone had gone to sleep, the men from Uruan rose up and began to slaughter their hosts.[32] When the Efik realised what was going on, they rose and fought back.
A captured invader confessed that they were set to retrieve royal emblems which they believed the Efik had taken with them when they left Uruan. The items believed to have been taken include Ikpaya (woven raffia robe), Akata (throne) and Ayang (Broom).[33] Oku attests that it was the attack on the Efik that made them decide to leave Ikpa Ene, as they realised they were still too close to their enemies.[27] Aye argues that the Efik could not have taken the royal emblem of the Uruan people as they would have already had their own royal emblem.[32]
The Uruan invasion at Ikpa Ene is believed to be the origin of the Efik saying, "Ama okut Ibibio, ku nọ enye ikañ, Idem amasat Ibibio eyewot owo"'(or English: When you see Ibibio do not give him fire(to warm himself), when he is dry he will kill you).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efik_people

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaang_people

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekoi_people

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oron_people

Celebrities / Re: Nigerian Singer, Mish Is Dead (Photo) by ibibiogrl: 5:12am On Mar 02
DissTroy:

I don't know you but I can give you my full names. I and my team have been building the biggest digital repository of Akwa Ibom history, culture, people, and more. I've been in tou
I did something similar for my LGA in October, 2020, and it involved a deep dive into Ibibio culture with partnerships from some Akwa Ibom historians. The first of its kind.
There's Nothing like Akwa Ibom historians, when you are meeting with frauds angry Seems like you don't even know ibibio language.😏
1st of all each ethnicity like Annangs, Orons, Ekid(Eket) have their own history, which U can only understand if you understand their language.
Let me ask you a question ❔ Why do Efik share cultures with Ejaghams, who's land stretch from Nigeria to Cameroun if they came from Uruan ❓
Yet Uruan doesn't have any relationship with Ejagham. Even Orons share cultures with Ejagham & cultures including dressing with another group that are between Cameroun & Congo Balondo
Let me tell you that I not only speak Ibibio, but I speak Efik, Annang and %50 Oron, because I grew in a compound with an Oron family, & I understand more since their language is similar to Efik. I also know %30 Eket because my uncle's wife is from there, she taught me a bit, while I learn a bit from the similarities to Ibibio.
Ibibios & EFIK barely understand Annang, but I do and speak these languages. Arochukwu should not be a part of these conversations, because they only relationship they have to ibibio is living on stolen ibibio lands.
They are related to Ejagham, because a sub-group of Ejagham called Akpa help them to steal their ibibio masters idol Ibritam, which made their ibibio masters to abandoned the Ibom land to Arochukwu.
U should just read my history, do you know how much insults, I would have received from Efiks and Annangs if I told fake histories. But Most Especially how much Insults I've STOPPED from Efiks, Annangs & Orons accusing my Ibibio ancestors of stealing their cultures & calling them Ibibio 😡
When it's Frauds like you who are not even Ibibio
that are postingg these Fake histories on nairaland sad
Just because France, Spain & Italy speak similar romance languages. Does that mean that they have the same Origin
Since you are too lazy to read, I've posted screenshots from the thread that I explained details, including screenshot from wikipedia, where the true historians tell their history.

Celebrities / Re: Nigerian Singer, Mish Is Dead (Photo) by ibibiogrl: 4:22am On Mar 02
DissTroy:

Wrong!
Efik people are a subset of the Uruan people who are in turn a subethnicty of Ibibio. Efik or Efuk isn't even their original name. How dare you twist their history? Do you know the Efiks and Uruans speak the same variant of Ibibio, and the Efiks still go to Uruan to pay homage, including the Obong of Calabar?
The Oro (not Oron - Oron is a subset (1 LGA) of the Oro people (5 LGAs) ) - and the Efiks and the Uruans are related. That's why Efik culture is an exact replica of Uruan culture, including cuisines, marital rites, Ekpe cult, e.t.c.
The Ibibio comprise of Northern Ibibio (Annangs), Southern and others which includes the Uruans, what is today known as the Efik, the Oros, the Ekids, the Ikot Abasis, the Iman clans which spread to become Etinan, Ubium and the likes.
Annangs, Oros, Uruans, Efuks, and Ekids are subethnicities of Ibibio. Only the Ibenos and Eastern Obolos are different - they are historically migrant Ijaw fishermen who morphed with the Ibibios.
Go read about the Ibibio - Arochukwu war at Ibom. Parts of us migrated into Cameroon, not the other way round.
I don't know you but I can give you my full names. I and my team have been building the biggest digital repository of Akwa Ibom history, culture, people, and more. I've been in touch with professors of history from Akwa Ibom, been given access to these books, and still consult with them. The first of its kind in Akwa Ibom.
I did something similar for my LGA in October, 2020, and it involved a deep dive into Ibibio culture with partnerships from some Akwa Ibom historians. The first of its kind.
This Saturday, there's one of such meeting with these historians and even a book review by one (in the corridors of power). I hope I'd be back in time for it physically since I am part of the organizers. I'm careful not to reveal too much on Nairaland. Nigeria is unsafe else I'd have mentioned specific names and venue.
Did you actually READ the thread that I link of the Thread that I attached at the end ❓
Because if you didn't then it's a pure Waste of my time. angry
I already explained in that thread that I'm %100 Ibibio but I grew up in Calabar (EFIK) and Abak (Annang).
So I'm talking from the perspective of interaction with these people and experiencing their traditions.
It was an Annang indigene that started this thread asking the question.
https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people
I will post screenshot from the thread as example.

You're not meeting with true historians if they are lying to you that Annangs are western Ibibios, or that Uruan have the Exact same traditions as EFIK, when not even all of Uruan had interaction or share some cultures with Efiks. It's mainly Adadia Uruan and others like that I will post screenshot..
Nsukara Uyo is part of offot, which is my clan. They are the last village in Uyo neighboring to Uruan.

Thank God it's not like 13yrs ago when I was trying to explain, now wikipedia has contacted the real historians of Efiks and Annangs to write their history.
Because I was arguing with a Ghanaian who was in charge of the language section of wikipedia then 13yrs ago, that Annangs was a different ethnic group from ibibio.
He was the one that listed Annang as western Ibibios, EFIK and Oron as riverine Ibibio. Which U are using as your reference today 🙄
A Ghanaian who is not Nigerian doesn't even know any details, but use another clueless white man Greenberg as his reference.
He was the one also that combined Efik and Ibibio language= Efik-ibibio, without including Annang, that has more native speakers than Efik.

Celebrities / Re: Nigerian Singer, Mish Is Dead (Photo) by ibibiogrl: 1:58am On Feb 20
DissTroy:


Akwa Ibom State is chiefly Ibibio tribe. The Annangs, Oros, Ekids, and Uruans are all Ibibio subethnicities.
The Efiks of Cross River State who own Calabar and some parts of Cross River are an Ibibio subethnicity. of the Uruan who are an Ibibio subset.
So, yes, in many ways.
@Katcall
Not true Efik & Oron migrated from Cameroun area Usakedet, while Annangs migrated through Ghana which is the origin of their name. They both migrated to the ibibio region.
This thread explains more details.
https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-igbo-people

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Celebrities / Re: Nigerian Singer, Mish Is Dead (Photo) by ibibiogrl: 9:22am On Feb 16
DissTroy:


Not really. He got millions and cars from Akpabio as Governor, and the next thing he had relocated to the U.S. instead of building on the success of his hit song, album and cross-regional acceptability.

There were a number of then up-and-coming Akwa Ibom artistes in 2011 - 2012 he could have taken under his wings, including MC Galaxy, but he relocated abroad and was forgotten.

By the time he tried making a comeback, everyone had moved on. And he had no hit to match the "Akwa Ibom Ayaya" success. Same thing happened to Bigiano of the 2008 "Shayo" fame and Sean Tizzle of the 2013 "Sho le" fame.

Iyanya who released "Kukere" same time as Mish's "Akwa Ibom Ayaya" in 2011 from the same Akwa-Cross region stayed back and was a household name and mega star till 2016. He's made a comeback now.
He did not Relocate to the US, he was just visiting.
He also released other hit songs like this below in 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etZdUzJckUY?si=-JfIYY3bNZYtrWOh
Celebrities / Re: Nigerian Singer, Mish Is Dead (Photo) by ibibiogrl: 9:13am On Feb 16
nkemdi89:
His people has finally gotten him, after that music and the popularity not much was heard from him , his career nose dived.
He released other hit songs especially this 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etZdUzJckUY?si=-JfIYY3bNZYtrWOh
Pets / Re: Obituary Poster Of A Dog That Died In Ghana (Photo) by ibibiogrl: 9:08pm On Jul 31, 2023
Puss360:

Lol... China and the whole of southeastern Asian countries eat lots of meat mainly pork... Dog , well they do, but isn't as popular as pork...
But you see Crossriver, and Akwaibom.. oh lord have mercy...
Dog meat is more valuable than any four legged animals...

Do your survey...
U're probably the one that own the dogmeat restaurant in Akwa Ibom😏 What survey❓
If you have ever step foot in those areas, especially Akwa Ibom. U will know that the few local bars that sell dog meat do so very discreetly, using code names to advertise it, e g. 404. But U are here spreading Ridiculous lies ‼️🙄
Meanwhile in your S.W village, snake meat is a delicacy, that u can't afford, but settling for Rat meat that is called Okon Calabar😕
Probably how U know so much about the type of neat consumed in Calabar, because U were there for their Okon Calabar 🤨

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Politics / Re: Another To Day Remind You That There's Nothing Like Middlebelt But North(photos) by ibibiogrl: 1:40pm On Apr 05, 2023
Arrewa:
A minority from Babur tribe, Borno was once a governor of Kano state... Shekarau once govern kano state and he is originally not from Kano but borno state!!

Can a minority tribe from akwaibom or calaba be allowed to govern Anambra state for 1 week??

You see why the north is highly united!! Here we don't care where you come from...

As long you speak like us... And Assimilate, you are one of us!!

In fact even if u don't speak Hausa as long u don't go about insulting people's religion or culture... You'll never have a problem staying in the north
What has Akwa Ibom got to do with this
U think we're like you with identity Crises who float around shocked A supposed Fulani who can't speak their language, you abandoned your cultural heritage for Hausa language & culture sad.
No we Akwa Ibomites are not minorities, we can't leave our land to go to Anambra & adopt their, language & culture, while allowing ours to die just so that we can be elected governor of Anambra. That's not worth loosing our Roots & culture over!
Just like an Ibibio will be a minority in Anambra, an Igbo person is also a minority in Akwa Ibom & can't be governor of Akwa Ibom state, has nothing to with unity, but we will not abandoned our culture & language to pretend to be another, by promoting that culture & abandoning ours. undecided
I will advise that since you have been inspired by Igbos, from reading your topics here, u try to promote your Kano state, calling your people "Fulani Amaka"..etc. Know that Igbos take more pride in their language, culture & traditions. So take pride in learning your Fulani language & culture, because portraying a fake unity of the north as your pride; will not save you in the long run. U are insulting your cultural heritage yourself by allowing your language & culture to go extinct, while promoting the Hausa language & culture.
Already U have started mentioning other ethnic groups in the North, where as 5yrs ago you would have claimed to be all Hausas & nothing else. grin

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Politics / Re: Appeal Court Affirms Umo Eno As Akwa Ibom PDP Governorship Candidate by ibibiogrl: 9:09am On Jan 20, 2023
saintnegroid:
Luke will still win or Bassey Albert. Mark my words
So where are Luke and OBA now? Y didn't they win like U declared? undecided
Sports / Re: Ime Udoka Becomes The First Nigerian To Coach A Team To The NBA Finals by ibibiogrl: 1:54am On Sep 25, 2022
obynzo:


I detest people who exhibit crass ignorance and are still bold to talk rubbish. Oga look at the link below. There are indigenous igbo communities in Akwa Ibom

https://thesouthernexaminer.com/akwa-iboms-indigenous-igbo-p1668-197.htm

U are WORST than Ignorant angry For using such a useless article as your source. Everyone knows Efiks are approximately 1million, compared to more than 5milion Annangs & almost 10milion Ibibios, yet that article claims Efiks are the majority. shocked Also Esit Eket and Eket are a subgroup of Ibibios; yet that article claims otherwise. Even claiming the Efiks who are indigenous to Cross River State as being a part of Akwa Ibom. No wonder it's claiming villages in Abia state as part of Ukanafun.
Ohaobu is a village in Abia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_villages_in_Abia_State
Villages in Ukanafun;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukanafun#:~:text=Today%2C%20Ukanafun%20is%20made%20up,%2C%20Ikot%20Akpa%20Idem%2C%20etc
Go through my comments history, I said there is no such community in Ukanafun, I grew up in Abak the neighboring City of Ukanafun, have best friends from Ukanafun. They told me there's no Igbo community in Ukanafun undecided
I even asked the daughter of Paramount ruler of Ukanafun, she told me again that There is No Igbo community in Ukanafun. What U have are boundary villages, with the Annang people being bilingual with the neighboring Igbo dialect.

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Sports / Re: Ime Udoka Faces Suspension Over Consensual intimate relationship With Team Staff by ibibiogrl: 1:32am On Sep 24, 2022
danot1030:

Maybe I should educate you a little about Igbo culture, osu. If a man impregnate an igbo woman and didn't pay her dowry the child she born belongs to her father, which makes him authomatic igbo. The name Udoka is an Igbo name, not an Akwa Ibom name which is translated as peace.
Before you are denying him to Akwa Ibom first confirm if his father paid the mother's price.
Chizzyjforce:

Sorry, you can actually explain that without sounding harsh. By the way, what's the meaning of Udoka in Akwa Ibom? I'm learning
@ Norwichsailor
We pronounced it as Udoaka even though it's written as Udoka.
Udo(h) = 2nd son, Udoudo/etukudo/Udoetuk/Udofia all = 3rd son due to different dialects of Ibibio.
Udosen, Udoaka = 4th son depending on the dialect of Ibibio or Annang.
We also have Udoeka= 2nd son of the mother.
Udoette= 2nd son of the father.

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Sports / Re: Ime Udoka Becomes The First Nigerian To Coach A Team To The NBA Finals by ibibiogrl: 1:09am On Sep 24, 2022
uglodoh:

Udoka means second son of his mother. Akwa ibomites add suffixes to that word Udoh meaning second son. There is Udosen, Udoete, udofia, udodoh
wingmanIII goodheart01 AutoRedux fantasy2018 obynzo BKayy
Here is the meaning of Udoka above. Like someone else mentioned we pronounced Udoaka even though it's written as Udoka.
Udo(h) = 2nd son, Udoudo/etukudo/Udoetuk/Udofia all = 3rd son due to different dialects of Ibibio.
Udosen, Udoaka = 4th son depending on the dialect of Ibibio or Annang.
There is No Igbo community in Akwa Ibom. Ika-Annang is not the same as Ika in Delta State.

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Politics / Re: UN Recognises Aba Women’s Riot On World Women’s Day by ibibiogrl: 10:52pm On Feb 15, 2022
nkwuocha:

Im very sure the well educated ones,unlike me have responded to your fallacious posts. Go through your mentions again. This time, feed well before you do.
It's funny how a tribe known all over the country to be house boy is encouraging igbos to go to school. The joke is on you!
Funny how a tribe that their most educated group started as slaves to Ibibios are calling others houseboys undecided

By religious and ritual links we mean those provided by the Ibini Ukpabi oracle of the Aro, an institution known in many Cross River communities, especially among the Efik-Ibibio, as Ibritam. The Ibini Ukpabi itself was a typical product of the contact situation existing between the Igbo and the Ibibio. According to its social charter it was, in the beginning, a local god of an Ibibio group. Then it was captured by the Igbo slaves of this Ibibio group, who successfully rebelled against their servile status and sought to turn the table on their masters, who chose instead to flee the region.  Under the control of these erstwhile Igbo slaves, the Ibini Ukpabi grew in influence to become, according to one authority, the most powerful oracle in West Africa by the nineteenth century.

Nigerian history, politics and affairs, Adiele Afigbo.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ez58Dwpa8JcC&pg=PA137/quote]

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Sports / Re: Team Nigeria Wins Best Fashion At The Beijing Winter Olympic 2022 by ibibiogrl: 6:34pm On Feb 05, 2022
asmovic:
so my sweat, the tax I pay monthly is spent winning 'fashion: in sports? So the medals for the major events should be won too.
They sponsored themselves.
redsun:

No. Not just you. I can't get my mind around the sporting event they will take part in in that Caucasians/north east Asians dare devils and elite games.
Yes Nigeria isn't a winter sport country.
jaxxy:
What are we doing at Winter Olympics?? undecided
Maybe our diaspora athletes tho. I wish them Goodluck.
Yes it's diaspora.
Mkelv0106:
Am that's the only medal we're going to win, at all at all na witch..But why are we participating in winter Olympic.
Diaspora athlete
dalebrown:
Congrats grin ... I hope we play better than we dress though, wey wetin happen for world cup dah year no come happen again
ultimateprof:
Na only clothes competition they dey win. Ndi ara!
Opak001:
Na fashion we dey always win,
Win wetin carry you go china...
No!!!
danuzochukwu:
That's what we're good at. But when it comes to winning medals we will be nowhere to be found.
nnamdi640:
Na their way, fashion without medal, before forget Mr bad luck (Buhari) is on top of the situation.
@Temptee101 barinedan flemsy15 Rich4god Bobloco Bigchristo Tapout Majesty33 uchihaa

Nigeria is not a winter sport country, so they sponsored themselves.
Only 1 guy Samuel Ikpefan(He didn't match) is competing in cross country skiing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria_at_the_2022_Winter_Olympics
Sports / Team Nigeria Wins Best Fashion At The Beijing Winter Olympic 2022 by ibibiogrl: 9:08am On Feb 05, 2022
The Best Uniforms at the 2022 Winter Olympics Opening Ceremonies.
Nigeria
Team Nigeria blended tradition with practicality when choosing their uniforms. The delegates represented their country wearing green and white uniforms, each sporting a head wrap. The uniforms were created by black-owned sports apparel brand Actively Black.
The parade of nations in the Winter Olympics is really the parade of puffers. Unlike the Summer Games, cold weather means less room for fashion.
Still, some countries tried their best
Accessories were the easiest way for most countries to stand out. The Nigerian athletes eschewed beanies and bobble knits for traditional wrap hats.
SOURCE;
People Magazine:
https://images.app./hSbxp1wxLyP9gUZz9
The New York Times:
https://images.app./nEFV9U2gRBnS1qq16

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Celebrities / Re: Cheslie Kryst Dies After Jumping From A Manhattan Skyscraper by ibibiogrl: 4:53pm On Feb 01, 2022
tammie24:
are you really saying that Obama wasn't regarded as a black President
Even Tyger Woods is well regarded a black man even though he hates associating with his fellow blacks
I'm not going to argue with you but try to do a little research
Yes I don't need any research, as I've been living in America. Blacks claim Obama, just like Igbos & Yorubas claim Giannis Antet... But we all know he's mixed with both Igbo & Yoruba.
Unlike Obama who sees himself as black, Tiger Woods doesn't see or regard himself as black.

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Celebrities / Re: Cheslie Kryst Dies After Jumping From A Manhattan Skyscraper by ibibiogrl: 1:35am On Feb 01, 2022
tammie24:
and are regarded as blacks
Show me someone who has at least one black parent or grandparent who isn't regarded as black?
No matter the race the are mixed with
No they're not regarded as blacks, including Obama, Tyger Woods, Maury twins etc.. because they're recently mixed with 1 non black parent. Even Beyonce's mother is regarded as creole (mixed race people of Louisiana)
The one drop rule only applied to those that were mixed during slavery through rape, by the white vslave masters raping the black slave women. So the children born were regarded as blacks, those children are the ancestors of many African American.

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Celebrities / Re: Cheslie Kryst Dies After Jumping From A Manhattan Skyscraper by ibibiogrl: 9:19pm On Jan 31, 2022
tammie24:
Surprised to see a black girl
Blacks hardly commit suicide compared to the whites
Olam09:

She's African-American. Technically she's a black women!
cry She was Biracial, her father is polish and her mother is African American.
Nairaland / General / Re: West Africa's Top 6 Most Modern And Beautiful Airports?? Gh,Senegal,Naija, Togo by ibibiogrl: 9:26am On Jan 27, 2022
vankelvin:

It's obvious you are the ignorant one here..
Kotoka has always been ranked ahead of Abuja airport.. What's modern about that Abuja airport? Can we see pictures? cos the video you posted has poor video quality and that even make your case worst
In which expert ranking, Urs
This are the rankings worldwide b4 the pandemic, after your airport was renovated from 2017-2019. It wasn't even in the ranking in 2019 & that was before the pandemic undecided
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_in_Africa
Nairaland / General / Re: West Africa's Top 6 Most Modern And Beautiful Airports?? Gh,Senegal,Naija, Togo by ibibiogrl: 9:02pm On Jan 24, 2022
vankelvin:
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Advanced as in?
Apart from the train that connects the Abuja Airport what other things do they have that other Airports do not have?
What makes Abuja Airport advanced?
Talk is cheap
If the emboldened is what you refer to as *advanced* then I'm sorry you know nothing.
Obviously U can't Read to comprehend undecided Research everything that's recommended for any modern worldly airport & this airport has it. It's the number 1 in Nigeria & West Africa angry
Nairaland / General / Re: West Africa's Top 6 Most Modern And Beautiful Airports?? Gh,Senegal,Naija, Togo by ibibiogrl: 8:16pm On Jan 23, 2022
vankelvin:

I knew about the new terminal in Abuja just that I could not get nice pictures of it.. It's surely beautiful with the train connecting it but
Kotoka
Dakar airport
Mutala over that terminal any day anytime
Really undecided when the new Abuja terminal is more advanced & modernized than all these airport you are listing here. I've checked out numerous videos and pictures of Kotoka terminal, it's close but not as advance as the Abuja terminal. I didn't even notice an escalator or the rolling floor escalator, that's present in all westernized airport terminals.
We Nigerians rate the New Abuja terminal as number 1, so I don't know why you are rating Lagos international airport the highest in Nigeria.
Nairaland / General / Re: West Africa's Top 6 Most Modern And Beautiful Airports?? Gh,Senegal,Naija, Togo by ibibiogrl: 8:06pm On Jan 22, 2022
vankelvin:
NNAMDI AZIKIWE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT- ABUJA, NIGERIA
Why are you using the old Abuja terminal airport to compare Maybe you don't know, but the New international terminal airport of Abuja is the best in all of Nigeria. Maybe even better than the Kotoka Ghana airport, since it has trains taking you there like most European & Western airports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aapHKqUFqeo
fourboys:
That pH airport na die
Check out Abuja airport.
Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 6:05am On Jan 15, 2022
KingOKON:
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Nigerian ethnic groups that traces their origin with more nothing less than 4 different accounts? Especially tales from the Bible lands
Stop getting worked up and answer the simple question
Who told you by that useless pictures you posted, that this is Ibibio and the other is Efik?
Your grandfather or your village council?
Show me a picture of how your father and grandfather was dressed during their marriage?
Stop telling us irrelevant tales and answer the questions?
U are the Useless Retard angry Don't Quote Me Again! undecided
Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 12:37am On Jan 15, 2022
KingOKON:
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You showed the world pics claiming one is Ibibio another Efik becsuse of the way they dressed,where did you get the audacity to say such nonsense?
U have been the one talking nonsense & arguing like a Retard & I've been waisting my time trying to explain as slowly as I can, but it's been pointless undecided
I told you I know the couple in real life & told you that they did & represented their both traditions on their traditional marriage. Are you actually Nigerian Am asking because I'm not sure, with you taking about DNA test shocked Because if you are truly Nigerian, you would know that when 2 different ethnic group/tribes marry each other, they conduct both traditions together.
Just like former governor of Cross River State
daughter Xerona Duke married a Yoruba groom and had to change up later to her husband's traditional attire, when they both began wearing Efik traditional attire. They even included the bride's mom's Kalabari tradition.
https://www.nairaland.com/4452946/photos-traditional-wedding-ex-gov-donald
Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 11:40pm On Jan 14, 2022
KingOKON:
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I don't do Wikipedia especially when it comes to anything concerning the history of Africa and whats my business with group having Identity issues in this time and age when DNAs and many scientific techniques exist over feel good tales
My major concern is the pics where you outrightly classified one as Ibibio and another Efik
Where did you get such authority from,
The elders, village councils or where?
What even makes you think you know anything deeper aside using this diluted culture and whatever as your yardstick for who is who
Those pics are nothing but fallacious it represents nothing
And where did you get the authority to label the guy whom U ask me to guess where he was from What has DNA got to do with ibibios and Efiks who know their ancient histories or any indigenous people of Nigeria undecided
Looks like I've been waisting my time trying
to explaini to a really Slow person shocked So you thought that I just found a random picture online and posted here as an example undecided Didn't U read where I wrote that; the groom was from Okobo while the bride was from Ibibio, & they did both traditions to represent their different cultures. U think I just made that up Don't U know that these are people I know especially the Ibibio bride undecided
So as I'm calling myself Ibibiogrl, I don't have the authority to label myself that, even though I am %100 Ibibio, knowing my family history & my great great grandparents on both sides, who were Ibibio with a street name after my grandfather in Uyo my village. Yet according to your logic I've to get a DNA test to find out my family history. angry

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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 9:15am On Jan 14, 2022
KingOKON:
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I am not interested where they are from rather I don't know where you got your facts about Ibibio/Efik bride/groom dressing
The pics depicting the dressing for an Ibibio groom is fallacious same with the bride.
The original Efiks were Uruans in origin
And you know this because you are an Efik or Uruan or the historian from those groups
I don't know why you keep quoting me, if you have noticed on my post history, the Efiks & Orons, etc agree with me. But I'm wondering why you an outsider has continued to argue about their history & origin. I already gave you several links to some thread to go there and argue with the Efiks themselves, but U refused, following me about angry
I wonder how you would feel if a stranger argues with you and tries to Convince you that U are not from your village & Ur parent are not your real parent, U who don't even know the basic differences between Efik and Annang & Ibibio.. But U are an expert on their histories & Origin.
Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efik_people) has finally written down the full migratory origin of Efik and the other groups like Oron. These groups still have some of their relatives currently located in Cameroun & even Congo(Oron), where they originally migrated from. Just because they temporary stop by Uruan, doesn't mean that it's their original origin. I suggest you go there and Read. If you still doubt that go back to the links I shared including the esopefik.tripod.com & ask them their origin or try to convince them that they are from Uruan undecided
Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 11:57pm On Jan 12, 2022
KingOKON:
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Dressing... can you take a wild guess where you think this guy is from?
And where do you think the couple in my picture example are from
Let me tell you they are both (bride & groom) from Akwa Ibom. The bride is Ibibio while the groom is from Okobo a part of Oron. They did both traditions that's Y they are dressed to represent both cultures.
Oron in Akwa Ibom share cultures and are related to Efik, even Uruans a part of Ibibio have some relationship with Efik.
Those 2groups in Akwa Ibom State have never denied their relationship with Efiks in Calabar and vice versa. So this man in this picture could be from any of those groups in Akwa Ibom State.

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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 9:28pm On Jan 09, 2022
KingOKON:
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Better you remain in America since you absolute lack knowledge of anything outside the Ibibio Annang Efik triangle
Really undecided what have you contributed except your ridiculous arguments shocked
KingOKON:
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You really have to do something more deeper not this yesterday westernized culture, something truly original
What is westernized culture undecided Again you should Go back and Read those links that I've posted, to learn more about Efik traditions, including the meaning behind different outfits, it's not as westernized as U think
Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 8:59pm On Jan 09, 2022
KingOKON:
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Go to Enugu state UDI local government area to be precise, in one local government they speak three variant of Igbo language that those within this council don't have common understanding
My host don't don't understand the dialect of somebody in his local government and you are using 3local government bigger 10 times than UDI local to base your judgment
Have you stayed outside Akwacross for just 1 week?
Actually I was born & have spent half of my life living in America, this isn't hidden from my post history undecided
Where did I use 3 LGA Are you comparing Calabar & Abak to LGAs in the same state shocked
Despite using Okon I doubt you are from the Akwa Ibom or Cross River State areas angry This your example of using dialects in 3LGA areas in Enugu has exposed U, no wonder you keep arguing ridiculously shocked
I will try to explain in case you truly care to learn. I'm Ibibio as U already know, my relatives & majority of ibibios only understand a bit of Annang, most don't. More understand Efik more as Efik was the official language used in the old Cross River State that included Akwa Ibom State. But even those ibibios & Annangs who understand Efik may not be able to speak fluently, except they grew up in Calabar.
That's Y I stated that I have lived in Calabar and Abak, so that helped me to understand & speak Annang and Efik more than an average Ibibio person.
Annang has 3-4 dialects that's unintelligible to others who aren't Annang. E.g. Ikot Ekpene, Ukanafun & others..etc
Ibibio also has several dialects, including dialect that's unintelligible to others e.g. Itumbonuso, even Eket is sometimes considered as an Ibibio dialect.
But I still wrote that language and food is the only similar aspect between Efik, Ibibios & Annangs.
Efik share culture with Ejagham, who are also native to Cameroun. Are you going to argue that Ibibio & Annang are the same as Ejagham

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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 8:20pm On Jan 09, 2022
KingOKON:
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What is this,do you call this a true indigenous African Ibibio/Efik traditional marriage attire?
When did people start wearing white long sleeve shirts and imported materials fit for curtains and furnitures as traditional marriage attires?
In the above picture the only original traditional thing is the rod being held by the woman every other thing up there is totally non-indegenous
The original maiden dressing for marriage consists of beads, cloth wrap around the bossom and waist
A man is only to tie a wrapper, the above picture is a complete dilution
Actually if you had checked the links I provided above, as I'm sure Afam the guy I was responding to did, you wouldn't waste your time repeating all these undecided
Those links explains culture & tradition of the Efiks with pictures in detail. You would also have noticed that, the dressing hasn't changed much, the gown is just 1of the formal attire for the Efik. But they still dress in the more traditional outfit.
Since you didn't bother to check the links, here are 2 pics from those links.
The outfit attire you posted is the Abang which has been modified just a bit, but you can still see the style in this 1st picture below.
The 2nd picture shows the original style (from the same era as the picture you posted) which has now been modified, more commonly worn by dancers and an Efik Bride on her outing after the fattening room rite of passage..etc

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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 4:52pm On Nov 23, 2021
Afam4eva:

I'm not saying that they are exactly the same.
But I have a simple question: Can an Efik person understand what an Ibibio person is saying and vice-versa?
They Are Not the same at all, they don't share origin or traditions like Ikwerre & Igbo.
As for the languages, they can understand each other to an extent, just like a Spanish person can understand Italian, except they've lived in each other region, before they can understand more.
Having lived in Calabar & Abak, I can explain these in more details.

Comparison to Spanish/French/Italian in greeting, How are you?
Annang: Atie die?/Atie lie? Ibibio: Aba die? Efik: Etie didie? (die pronounce as Dear)

Spanish: Cómo estás? French: Comment ça va? Italian : Come sta ?

More details;
  Words could be similar like English: I cannot, Annang: Nkarake, Ibibio: Nkanna, Efik :Nkemeke.
Words can also be completely different like English:feces, Annang:Afid, Ibibio:Uduang, Efik:IfVO.
 
Example of sentences- English:-1) My house is were we all are/We're all in my house.  2) This is my house
  Annang:-1) Ilung Ida ke afide ajid itie. 2)Ilung ida ade ami
  Ibibio: 1) Ufok mmi ke afit nyin iba. 2) Ufok mmi ado mi
Efik:-1) Ebiet Idung mmi ke kpukpru nyin idu. 2) Ebiet idung mmi edi emi.
So you can now see these differences in languages and judge for yourself if they can understand each other.

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Culture / Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ibibiogrl: 4:09pm On Nov 21, 2021
@Afam4eva
U can clearly see the differences here in dressing.

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