European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 5:29pm On Jul 06, 2025 |
Anyone who thinks signing million wingers is improving a squad instead of getting the CM right should look at Brighton
Since Brighton went to playing 3 wingers behind the striker (Mitoma, JP and Minteh/Rutter), they have been falling down the table for the last 2 seasons
There is no winger at Brighton who you won't want at Chelsea whether Mitoma. JP or Minteh, yet they keep getting worse because they sacrificed their central midfield/ or a 3rd centreback for more wingers
Even their wingers they sent away or benched (Encisco, Buonanote, Adingra) had them performing better than they are now because their middle was stronger then. Same feewlesh format Chelsea is following, buying more and more wingers and sending away other wingers hoping the next winger will make the key difference, while chasing the law of diminishing returns on wingers
If Encisco, Buonanote and Adingra could achieve better league finishes than João Pedro, Mitoma and Minteh, that should tell you their solution never lay in chasing more wingers.
cc Nateevs |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:57pm On Jul 06, 2025 |
nateevs: From a tactical perspective, Maresca's system is heavily reliant on wingers. So winger provisioning takes priority.
From a numbers perspective, we had Mudryk, Sancho, Madueke, Neto and still went and signed Estevao.
Right now, we have lost Sancho, Mudryk and Madueke. If somehow we kept all 3, we still would have kept Estevao on top. Right now, we only have Gittens as replacement. 3 out, 1 in. But I ask for 3 out, 3 in and it's a problem? No!
We are not overprovisioning the department, considering we now have CL.
Business wise, if Nwaneri becomes available as a result of Arsenal mis-purchasing Madueke, you take that opportunity. Because worst case scenario, you make money. We are in PSR era baba, we must flog valuable assets year in year out to stay afloat. You know the drill.
Nkunku, Sterling, Felix, and the rest are all gone. Not part of the squad. Nothing concerns me with those one. If we can move CSO, we can move them. This is rubbish. Can you play more than 2 wingers at a time? Better yet, please name the wingers in Marescas Leicester team. Maresca has no say and is following the template of our feewlesh TDs direction There's a reason I asked for the wingers in Liverpool. If you like, you can extend that to Man City, PSG, Madrid and co They all have a template of 3 CMs non-negotiable with only 3 or 4 regular wingers playing consistently and only 2 at any given time. None of these teams use a traditional no10 But our feewlish TDs will take one CM slot, give it to a winger/AM, then buy 3 players for that position, forever shutting out the possibility of playing 3 traditional CMs WHICH IS THE WINNING TEMPLATE FOR MOST BIG CLUBS IN THE WORLD. PSG cannot play without their 3 traditional CMs, Liverpool cannot. Man City. Barcelona, Madrid do not. But somehow you want us to believe that Maresca who had a midfield of KDH, Harry Winks and Ndidi is wedded to the idea of removing midfielders for wingers. Maresca that only used two wingers at Leicester for the whole season (Mavididi and Fatawu) We should continue using failed template that historically is vastly inferior to the traditional 4-3-3 in the name of stacking wingers and wonder why we are not at the top table consistently. Since Emenalo brought this template to Chelsea, we have only challenged for the title 3 times (2014, 2015 and 2017) and on almost all 3 occasions, we did it by moving away from playing 3 wingers behind a striker £1.3bln down the drain on this policy with no tangible result and no consistency |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:52pm On Jul 06, 2025 |
liveLongNprospa: Brother. Whatever you think of me genuinely doesn't concern me. We've been on this particular thread long enough for me to know who I'll be gentle with and who not to be.
And yes I am even more aggressive now because I have seen what has been stolen from me. Who knows, maybe with time I'll be chill like the rest of you... Till then🙏 This is matter of humility and self awareness, not what I think of you. Why will you be arguing with a Doctor in the civil service about civil service dispute with Doctors at a time when you were a teenager, and trying to shout over him? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 2:46pm On Jul 06, 2025*. Modified: 3:14pm On Jul 06, 2025 |
nateevs: We are going into 4 competitions. Kudus, Estevao, Nwaneri for right wing, Gittens, Neto, Tyrique for LW and getting £50m for Madueke (knowing we have Quenda in next season), is the exact definition of great squad building, strength in depth and superb footballing business.
We have the advantage of owning and sending Nwaneri to Strasbourg if we want to, and flipping him for £50m in two years, Are you not already sick and tired of the overbooking in wing positions Can you name any wingers at Liverpool the EPL Champions aside Salah and Diaz It's this wingers overbooking feewlishness that Emenalo used to do back then that made us chase away Salah and KDB Not to mention puts the manager in a tactical hamstring of having to practically play 4-2-4 to accommodate all the wingers while one of the key components of that 2 in midfield is not fit for purpose to carry the workload I am looking for how to sell Madueke AND Pedro Neto (as well as Nkunku, Sterling, Felix, Mudryk and Carney) WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADDITION of wingers and we will still be good and overstocked with Gittens. Joao Pedro, Palmer, Estevao and Tyrique That's 5 wingers for 2 positions, people still dey mention Kudus and Nnwaneri. Utter madness |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:38pm On Jul 06, 2025 |
liveLongNprospa: I hope that puts an end to this recycled talk of 13 month kini Kan.
But hey, I'm ready to clear all doubts again😁 You dey use Google argue with a Doctor in the civil service who has lived experience of the matter, at a time when you were probably writing NECO exam He quickly comot hand for the matter when he saw you getting aggressive, now you are giving yourself a pat on the back This is why I told you I don't discuss politics with angry people. Of all Obidients, you are the most aggressive. Even Canada AC never cool your aggression. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:00pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
LOL
Hakimi is a bassssscaaaard |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 6:08pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
Enzo5: Cole Palmer on celebrating his goal with Tosin: “That’s my boy. I’ve had a difficult time these past few months on and off the pitch, but he’s always been there for me and he’s helped me a lot”.
This level of maturity from tosin is what this young players need at times They are both from Manchester and City academy alumni moreso than age |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 5:53pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
Sorry Musiala, that will be a long injury, and career defining |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 5:50pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
What a beautiful offside trap |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:46pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
swiz123: That is because most people here are only loyal to their agenda.
Enzo was once terrible, he frustrated me and even nearly made me break my TV. While I criticized him aggressively, I have come to realize that there has been massive improvement. This was exactly why I stopped criticizing Jorginho.
An unbiased mind will see that he now runs more which is very evident in the number of times he opens up to receive passes even in tight corners as well as arrive late in the box.
Palmer was the one who made our midfield struggle badly yesterday. A number of times I saw him fail to follow his man during a press. I didn’t spot Enzo loose guard his man for once. He only struggles a bit during transitions. I salute Santos’ peak physical performance yesterday for mitigating the situation. He proved himself physically but Enzo’s technicality helped get us out of dangerous areas.
I will continue watching Enzo with an open mind because I simply wish all our players well and no criticism from me is personal.
Enzo in this current form will start an almost every top team in the world so it is not really a Maresca thing anymore. Only a feeeleesh person will see sense in this post I have no problem in acknowledging players improvement, however I don't waste.time looking to squeeze blood from stone Enzo.will never be fast enough to play CM effectively in EPL If it didn't dey, it didn't dey Same reason I would never acknowledge anything in Jogginghoe because he does not and will never have the tools and is a systematic weakness who will always be a systematic weakness Looking for any improvement in Enzo is accepting to carry weakness in Chelsea midfield for ever Enzo will never be quick enough, end of story Even yesterday he was absent or late to many situations. Anyone who couldn't see it is a big feeeewl I have been criticising Colwill for ever, he improved. He has the tools. Enzo will never have the tools, end of story Ibime: Colwill misses next match
He has been brilliant for several months now |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:23am On Jul 05, 2025 |
afrodoc: He is using the Amalinze Protocol for you. Local man is weak in the knees like SWV |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:29am On Jul 05, 2025 |
swiz123: That is because most people here are only loyal to their agenda.
Enzo was once terrible, he frustrated me and even nearly made me break my TV. While I criticized him aggressively, I have come to realize that there has been massive improvement. This was exactly why I stopped criticizing Jorginho.
An unbiased mind will see that he now runs more which is very evident in the number of times he opens up to receive passes even in tight corners as well as arrive late in the box.
Palmer was the one who made our midfield struggle badly yesterday. A number of times I saw him fail to follow his man during a press. I didn’t spot Enzo loose guard his man for once. He only struggles a bit during transitions. I salute Santos’ peak physical performance yesterday for mitigating the situation. He proved himself physically but Enzo’s technicality helped get us out of dangerous areas.
I will continue watching Enzo with an open mind because I simply wish all our players well and no criticism from me is personal.
Enzo in this current form will start an almost every top team in the world so it is not really a Maresca thing anymore. Only a clown would believe Enzo that is late to everything is doing midfield work even now. His only saving grace is the inverted fullback system which has one fullback providing an extra body sometimes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:22am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Unlimited22: Yes, I did Because I wanted a touchline winger first and we still got one anyway. I fear who no fear you oh He is a better winger than striker sef |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:20am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Unlimited22: I've been watching that guy since he was at Watford
He's exactly what this team needed given how this Maresca is hellbent on playing. Jizzzos! No be you dey argue the guy matter with me just few weeks back? Unlimited22: Joao Pedro played 95% of his games for Watford on the wing. Not impressed.
We need a specialist LW and a striker.
We have the best goalie in Ligue 1 returning, the best midfielder in Ligue 1 last year outside PSG returning, and a potential generational talent AM/RW joining up. Alongside Mamadou Sarr, whom I happen to rate higher than Dean Huijsen at CB.
Na striker and LW remain and we have to get it right. Joao Pedro is not a bad player but he isn't a needle mover and his numbers are average. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:01am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Enzo5: guy I don't recall mentioning you nor expecting you to monitor my every post, bro it's just football you should be too old for such pettiness Did you not know that before mentioning me upandan against Tunis? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:58am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Great outcome
We got through and Estevao also announced himself |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:57am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Semis here we come |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:57am On Jul 05, 2025 |
nateevs: Certified ballerPedro!!! E be like say guys never watch this guy play before. Pedro is a dream. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:56am On Jul 05, 2025 |
BlueMann: Madueke should've sealed it there. Nice play Pedro once again, fantastic debut. Pedro overran the pass slightly Great shot from Pedro there |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:55am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Amethyst101: Are you for real brother?  He must be watching Livescores After Palmer, Colwill and Cuku na Santos for this match |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:53am On Jul 05, 2025 |
lordfalcao: Santos did nothing special in this game He played his role very well, held his position, made himself available, won the ball a few times and made all his passes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:51am On Jul 05, 2025 |
WhoDeyHause: Thank God Caicedo would be back for the next game to give us more power in midfield, make Sanchez just behave. Whatever happens, Santos should keep his place and play alongside him |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:50am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Why will KDH come on and be playing wings instead of tightening the midfield. I don't understand this Maresca at all |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:49am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Colwill misses next match
He has been brilliant for several months now |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:46am On Jul 05, 2025 |
lordfalcao: Introduce kdh Exactly But will Ireti listen? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:45am On Jul 05, 2025 |
The Palmeiras keeper should be investigated for betting |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:45am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Malo Gusto the curse turned blessing |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:44am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Torrrrrrr |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:36am On Jul 05, 2025 |
See Cuku |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:35am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Zero midfield control and no ability to withstand pressure from any decent team, but if it's ES Tunis, one Enzo5 teenager will be mentioning me fewleeshly |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:23am On Jul 05, 2025 |
Great recovery tackle from Santos |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:16am On Jul 05, 2025 |
I said it that this Palmeiras coach is known for reading the game and we need to put this to bed. They have been all over us this second half.
This is where a good midfield comes in to settle a game but we don't have a midfield, only one man working there |