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Unfortunately for Elon his alliances are with the very far right so he can't present himself as a middle candidate

Like I said from the start, we would judge Trump on the deficit. Trump being a populist can only expand the deficit

Trump is the only conservative I know that dashes people free money just so they can hail him
I remember the case of $600 stimulus checks when he was shouting that they should increase it to $1.2k for everyone. Real conservatives were turning in their grave.

budaatum:
The UK government's budget for the financial year 2025/26 is expected to be around £1,335 billion, so 3.5b can not be 4%. But left to me, the UK government will be forced to spend 5%. And that's why I'm not the school meals minister or chancellor.

Pre covid UK budget was around £800bln, that's why I wrote pre covid which were normal spending conditions and not the bloatedness COVID introduced which politicians want to turn to the new normal

Imagine spending £1 in every £25 to feed some brats whose parents already feed them

Difference between João Pedro and Felix is pace and hardwork. Difference between João Pedro and Nkunku is dribbling and hardwork

Joao Pedro has the pace and dribbling to play wide and is a pressing machine

He will cook.

budaatum:
£2 per week sandwich (I'm certain you mean per day), is not sufficient food for a kid! And, if you feed your child sandwiches every day, it will cost me more providing health care due to their malnutrition.

As for deficits, the UK government spends about £1.4 billion a year on free school meals in England, and will spend £59.8 billion on defence in 2025/26. But I'm certain you are against that too, though do correct me if I'm wrong.

The UK Government does not give free school meals past the age of 6. That only applies to Reception, Year 1 and Year 2. Add Year 3 to 6 and your £1.4 bln becomes circa £3.5 bln or 4% of UK Govt budget pre covid

budaatum:
Ibime's concern is cost. Children in care cost more than free meals and transport and education combined.

We here in UK already provide meals for children at home, and its not from schools.

To stop 2% of children from eating £2 per week sandwiches doesn't mean you feed 100% of children £15 per week balanced meals

That's killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer and part of the reason we keep running massive deficits in the West

ObaIgwe1:
lol, don't play the scripture with me You ignore the emphasis in the scripture you quoted.

Jeremiah 31 Vs 29

'In those days they shall say no more The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children’s teeth are set on edge.’

You ignored the part that says "people shall no longer say the proverb of parent eating sour grape and children having bad teeth. Ordinarily children will suffer the consequences of their parents, but in a caring society and in the new covenant of God, children are not supposed to inherit the curses upon their parents.

Read it more clearly from Ezekiel 18:1-4: (NIV)

18 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:

“‘The parents eat sour grapes,
and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

3 “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die.

I digress.

In the community I grew up before we started building all these gated houses, (not far from Awolowo's community) even though our fingers were never equal, but the community joined hands to raise all the children. At least to have the basics. All the children will not wear the same cloths or play with the same toys, but my community would now allow a child of school age roaming the streets during school hours. All that is changing now I know, but that is where the government can come in and give a helping hand.

Like you said, a good lunch might not cost up to $2, that is not a lot for government to spend on a kid per day compare to billions of $ wasted somewhere else. No one is asking the government to make all children comfortable like Billionaire kids, we are simply asking that they should be given a chance to survive and thrive. That is a cheaper investment compare to the cost of dealing with the mess they will create when they become nuisances to the society. If we fail to spend that money in feeding a needy child now, we will spend more to feed him/her as an adult in a prison (after a lot of damages and atrocities committed against the society) while we continue to blame the parent.

I hail you for the scriptures, however the cost of Government feeding the children is not £2 per week, that's the parents cost

Government puts milk. juice, broccoli, carrot, potatoes, pasta, cheese and protein on the childrens table costing about £3 or more per plate per day

So instead of parents spending £2 per week taxpayers are now paying like £15 per week to balance their plate

Amigoss:


So e get who ibime dey fear and no wan body with....

How many years me and Diggz be paddy? I no fit fight am na. Even when I make the ChatGPT joke, I done already predict say him fit get issue based on him personality and I done already ready my apology. Him be my paddyman but him no know.

swiz123:
So na ChatGPT ibime dey use drop all those gba takes?!! Wow!!!

Nairaland never reach like that to dey use ChatGPT na.

diggz:
You are a child! You too dey zuzu like market woman with porous mouth. Even with this platform being text based and giving you extra time to reason things through, you still no fit help yourself from your usual cho cho cho.

To make things worse, you can’t even own your 4keries when challenged. You would rather hide behind emojis/play or drag someone else into it….smh.

To be honest, I’ve thought of several juuuicy words to describe your personality. But with the way spambots dey move these days, there’s no way I go escape a ban. So you’re actually in luck.

By the way, nah who make you accuse me of being a yahoo boy that year? Just so you know, you’ve been moving mad around me for too long now. I just hope one of these days, you’ll be man enough to air whatever issue you have with me.

It really doesn’t matter where he made the comment as long as he didn’t quote me directly. But you’re too steeeewpid to know or understand that. So of course, you had to descend into some 4kery while hiding behind the British way of passive aggression.

Naaah…..you be pikin bro!

No reason am boss. I have never had problem with you and will never have problem with you. You be my guy but I know say your blood dey hot and one or two small play with you fit go awry sometimes, like the Mompha thing which was a hailing we were all hailing you in comparison to Funlord. If you take offence, I apologise. I also write in colloquial on Nairaland, not formal, so no be yabbings, na just play. No vex.

diggz:
Yes na, I be illiterate wey never enter classroom before, so na wetin you expect? Na borrow I borrow queens English from ChatGPT, I no log off my brains put inside like some other people. Is there a crime committed here olokpa, Ibime?

Na small pull we dey pull your leg boss

If you check well, bomblacks made his ChatGPT comment directly under your post, and your method of communication has changed from street to formal, no be say you no sabi formal before

lol

So na this Al Halal wey Ronaldo dey face every season for Saudi?

No wonder him never win anything since

bolu96:
I thought I was the only one that noticed. I was like no be Egbon diggz again? I even had to check the moniker again and again.

One time I mistook him for Nateevs on Chelsea thread before checking the moniker

ObaIgwe1:
Isaiah 49:15-17: Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget.

Ibime, my wife and I support a number of NGOs that look after children welfares... I tell you, there are so many irresponsible parents out there that should have no business having kids. The worse are those who have the money yet neglect these children. Father with money to buy cigarettes, drugs and gamble yet spare nothing for the kids... Mothers with money for hair, make-up and fashion yet give no damn about their kids. The father blames the mother and the mother faults the father while the child is left to go hungry. Should we also allow the child to remain hungry while blaming the parents?

Honestly it sounds funny but I agree with budaatum, some humans need to be checked and given license before having kids.

These will all be noticed in the children's uniform and hygiene and intervention should be be made at that point, we do not need to cover up their negligence by feeding their children

Here's a bible verse for you

Jeremiah 31 Vs 29

In those days they shall say no more: ‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children’s teeth are set on edge.’

There is nowhere on earth where childrens quality of life is not determined by their parents but in totality, almost all parents try to match society's expectations of school meal and uniform, unless they are on drugs, at which point the children will/should be taken from them anyway. As I dey here, some children are flying private Jet or in private education but not my children. Who will provide equity for my children? We can't equalise everybody.

diggz:
I thought the guy mentioned that he was prepping for exams the last time.

Which exam dey last from January to July

Meanwhile e be like say dem dey accuse you of using ChatGPT. The way you switched from Waffi slang to Queens English in the last couple of months, there may be some legs to the allegations

swiz123:
Di Marco should let go of that hair. That hair is gone for good, make him barb skodo.

One trip to the hair clinic will resolve that

budaatum:
You know very well there's lots of irresponsible or just hard up parents in the unthird world country you live in who can not feed their kids. And that's not a reason to put them in care which costs a lot more than just helping their parents feed them. Besides, they'd be very unhealthy, and a liability to the socialist health care system, so we better feed them before they become a greater liability.

Having hungry children in your child's class will negatively impact your child's education, because their hungry rumbling stomach will distract the entire class.

This is a myth propagated by the food bank industry

In low income neighbourhoods, kids are fatter on average. There is no death of sustenance, only death of quality food.

A simple review of benefit payments shows that feeding is the last problem you expect on any benefits budget and any parent sending their child to school without food is negligent

Speaking as a child from lowest income household as a teenager with my mum working as a teaching assistant when we first returned from Nigeria, and my father in Nigeria, I never failed to have Wagon wheels, crisps and sandwich in my lunchbox. That was a single low income household with 5 kids to support, so I'm not buying any lamba about poverty. Even when I moved out of the house at 16, I got a weekend job that paid me £140 per week. From that £140, I paid my own rent, travelled to college everyday, ate well and had savings. People need to stop making excuses while their parents are puffing 20 cigarettes per day.

Unfortunately it's not Govts job to legislate for quality of food. Hunger is well taken care of by any job or benefits system. On an average day if you offer kids vegetables or fruits, they will hardly eat anyway, same as we did in Nigeria. Thankfully kids mostly use excess carbs and sugar for vertical growth rather than horizontal.

budaatum:
When did you become like those lying deplorables?

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2005/june/free-travel-on-buses-and-trams-for-under16s

I'm talking free food not free travel

diggz:
Finally, Itrsm and Wike had the last laugh.

Where is itsrm

IjeBos:
Yes, so irresponsible parents have children.
Irresponsible parents send their children to school without food.
What do you suggest happens?.

I suggest they be reported to Social Services for Home Visit. It's one of the rare and surefire glimpses that the State has into domestic abuse, why get rid of it

And to be clear only child neglect can make a parent send a child to school without food in the 1st world, not poverty. Nobody is that poor to not be able to afford even P&J sandwiches

God1000:
I don't understand your logic, what you are trying to say is that israel is allowed to wipe out the entire population of over 2.5 million Palestinians in an attempt to get rid of a handful of Hamas fighters

If Israel wanted to wipe them out they would have. Unlike HAMAS that targets random Israelis, Israel targets HAMAS who use civilians as human shield

Only circa 50,000 have died in Gaza despite heavy bombardment and that's cos Israel always tells them where they will be targeting HAMAS, so they can clear out

IjeBos:
They are children.
Why is this even a debate?

And their parents have responsibilities

And any parent that cannot take care of a responsibility this minor has already probably lost the child to Social Services

Bombblacks:
It's very easy to spot a post that has been edited by Chatgpt.

Who is using ChatGPT?

budaatum:
As I said, the underprivileged. I'm certain Mamdani is not proposing to feed the children of those who can afford to feed their own children. And New York policies will not be for the entire USA, I doubt.



My niece came to London from Manchester for Christmas, and was surprised their London nephews just got on the buses without paying. She said she'd do the same when she went back to Manchester, but I had to let her know London has a free transport policy for certain ages which Manchester seems to lack. Her mother told me a bus driver refused to let a primary school girl travel because she had no money. We'd burn the bus company if they do the same in London.

That one na for your pocket. You have your own Mamdani in London, Sadiq Khan who introduced it last year to win votes. What's the difference between Year 6 and Year 7. Do children stop growing between that time or do their parents start affording to carry out their basic responsibility? You would think feeding a child for a week cannot be done with £2. Any child whose parents cannot put this together is already in the Care system

IjeBos:
Meals should be a part of School.
Children shouldn't have to worry about what they'll eat at school.
We as a society should be able to get behind that.

Parents should take responsibility for feeding their children at school as they do at home. We are not a third world country and there is nobody that cannot buy bread and ham for sandwiches. This £2 Ham will feed 2 children for 2 weeks. If it's Haram for you, Turkey dey. This was how we ate at school.

GloriousGbola:
his political career is over

better he chops what he can

Same way Ganduje has been substituted for Kwankwaso

Either deliver or become extinct, same reason Amaechi party is over

budaatum:
I feel you. You'd hate school meals for the underprivileged too, and wouldn't mind them starving. Hopefully, New Yorkers won't unreason like you do.

Do let Amazontopaz know that UK that is not socialist has most of the same policies as Mamdani is proposing, and the lights stay on. While USA that is not socialist is curtailing civil liberties, though not where guns are concerned.

There is hardly anybody in the UK that cannot afford school meals, only children with household income less than £7.4k get free school meals above Year 2. I know of children in my daughters school whose parents earn £20k to £30k and they pack sandwiches. The rest of us pay the school.

Ibime:
Paying a reasonable level of tax is fine until politicians start becoming frivolous with it. Nobody will complain to pay tax to cover emergency services, free education to secondary school, military, infrastructure, healthcare and shelter for the homeless

It's when they start paying stuffs that should be personal responsibility that I begin to vex

eg free school meals for kids when those kids parents can afford to smoke 20 cigar per day. I still dey vex with Marcus Rashford over that matter.

The one wey off me na when Scotland mandate all public bathroom to have free tampons for women and labelled it "period poverty". So you telling me there is a single woman in Scotland that cannot put aside 50 pence from her monthly budget for that time of the month?

Mamdani lost me at $30 minimum wage

That some people would cap for that policy just shows how out of touch they are with market economics

In every Society, once you can't afford a big city, you cøcknyash or you move out.

I pity who carried Simi matter for head, from the way the guy is licking vomit just to have 2 more years with his snout in the public trough

swiz123:
Why am I not surprised. You are just not smart at all.

How does that irrelevant journalism hurt Tinubu’s reelection? A man who is accessible and known to be in good health.

Can anyone here say that the problem they have with Tinubu is that he is ill and not fit to oversee his duties?

At what point will you finally see things for what they are?

If he was in good health, then why the constant medical trips to France? Sowore has been exposing this, but the Pit Obi that will wait till 100 days to election to scatter opposition is the one not helping Tinubu

Which of the two are practically and materially helping Tinubu? That's how you will be sweeping floor focusing on Sowore while Obi is burning the roof

Amigoss:
But when obidients feast on these stories from sowore,you and those guys call them mobs

Nothing consine me with those guys, my only problem with Obidients is anger against anyone with a nuanced view

I wouldn't like to know what social media feeds are generating such anger in Obidients

It is Sowore who constantly exposes Tinubu they claim is a double agent, but Obidients will turn blind eye to Obi who Hundeyin accused of working in Tinubus favour

https://www.nairaland.com/8463257/tinubus-saint-lucia-trip-decoy