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Ibime:
The Ward Prowse red card incident was comical. Not the Jorginho pass to Mendy but the first one he passed back to Rudiger without much pressure that you'd expect any other decent DM to spin out from instead of passing to Rudiger. That first unnecessary pass to Rudiger when he could have turned, encapsulates his incompetence at the half-turn and why he always hides under the press and can't even maintain an average level of possession in tough games. That was a 3 on 3 press. Rudiger was already marked while Ward-Prowse was not even that close to Jogginghoe. Any other DM turns there but Jogginghoe chose to pass to a marked Rudiger and put him under pressure. Rudiger panicked and sent it to Mendy who was being closed down, and Mendy sent a risky pass back to Jogginghoe. All because Jogginghoe cannot turn in 5 yards of space between him and Ward-Prowse. Talk about belle-face playmaker.

This is what I'm talking about here. Why play this ball back to Rudiger when you can see a man advancing on Rudiger - when any good DM will spin out in the direction of this arrow. First pic is ball coming to him, 2nd pic is ball at his feet. He has already taken first touch by this time and Ward-Prowse is still 5 yards away. If he received this ball on the half-turn, Ward Prowse would be even further away. The way he took his first touch back in the direction of Rudiger was just so comical.

I have hardly seen such incompetence at the half-turn in a traditional DM, talkless of a so-called playmaker. What a belle-face. Rudiger of course panicked with that kind of pass under pressure and gave it quickly to Mendy who was also being closed down and panicked into a risky pass back to Jogginghoe.

Bville02:
At gun point.. pick one loool.

Depends on what other type of players I have in the team.

Bville02:
Ibime, if you have to choose between Jorginho and Fabregas, who will you pick?

I would hope not to be in that position

The Ward Prowse red card incident was comical. Not the Jorginho pass to Mendy but the first one he passed back to Rudiger without much pressure that you'd expect any other decent DM to spin out from instead of passing to Rudiger. That first unnecessary pass to Rudiger when he could have turned, encapsulates his incompetence at the half-turn and why he always hides under the press and can't even maintain an average level of possession in tough games. That was a 3 on 3 press. Rudiger was already marked while Ward-Prowse was not even that close to Jogginghoe. Any other DM turns there but Jogginghoe chose to pass to a marked Rudiger and put him under pressure. Rudiger panicked and sent it to Mendy who was being closed down, and Mendy sent a risky pass back to Jogginghoe. All because Jogginghoe cannot turn in 5 yards of space between him and Ward-Prowse. Talk about belle-face playmaker.

nna777:
Alts are breaking out.

E no consign me for now. Waiting for them to come back down.

BlueMann:
Omo...how Saul wan do now?

That guy entered bad market in a club where RLC is waiting in line

BikeMan:
Again, what does Jorginho offer this team?

See RLC bossing a midfield where he’s facing Romeu and award Prowse.

Living off TTs genius

How come Mount has been missing for 3 games and Havertz been chopping bench?

WarAgainstBegga:
I hope Cho and RLC prove their worth today

BBC is saying 3-5-2

basilico:
UK deaths from COVID-19

2020:. 74235

2021:. 62140. As of Sep 28th

97% unvaccinated. Lockdown saved them last year.

As an aside, you can't compare an exponential growth phenomenon by looking at years. How many people had Covid on 1st January of 2020 compared to 2021? Assuming an r rate greater than one, if 1 person had Covid start of last year multiplied by the r rate exponentially is different from a starting base of say 100,000 multiplied by r rate in 2021

The thunder that will fire Solskjaer is doing press up

donjazet:
This is rubbish. 1. Jorginho played with an AM in Napoli to devastating effects. You just lose your sense of rationale when talking of jorginho.
The guy is okay for his position. He is not a defensive midfielder in the sense of that word.

2. We are now in a new era of football where the concept of defense is to do less defensive work by starving the opponents of the ball. Hence a deep lying playmaker.
The world of football has recognized jorginho's role and place in the game.

1. What is the name of the AM Jorginho played with in Napoli?

2. Which opponent does Jorginho starve of the ball with 30 passes per game regularly?


Your whole post is full of rubbish, lies and belongs in the nearest waste-bin. A bus parker who makes 30 passes claiming he defends by starving opponents of ball. Stop repeating false narratives that have long been debunked. Only a dishonest fellow will see Chelsea and Italy parking bus for the last 9 months and claim Jorginho is controlling possession. Spits

Havertz10:
lukaku that disappears against top opposition

Better than Havertz that disappears against ALL opposition

User09:
Havertz10, Remember what I said about Havertz and Lukaku in each others space on the right. Take a look at our shot and pass map against Juve, they were mostly in the same spot

Looks like its a real issue TT's gonna have to deal with

Yes, by dropping Havertz

There is no problem with 2 players being in the same spot if they work together.to create overloads there. Henry and Pires virtually played on the same spot.

basilico:
I need to know why 2021 COVID-19 death toll in 6 months is higher than 2020 , when we have more capacity of oxygen plants, face masks ventilators,ICU beds besides vax passports and mandates.

That must be in India and third world countries with low vaccine take-up. You have never been bright.

Basilico you noisemaker

My booster shot booked for 13th October

nna777:
Boy o Boy!!!. When alts start pumping, no be here e go be. Patience is key.

Part of the surge in Btc is the inverse relationship with the dollar. A drop in the US dollar inversely leads to a pump in crypto. As long as the dollar weakens, the crypto market will be bullish.

I believe na FED statement saying they have no plans to ban crypto cause am.

Dollar is related to high inflation which causes money to move out of stocks into Treasury yields. Crypto moves the same way as stocks and actually has a positive correlation with the dollar. Bitcoin as a dollar and inflation hedge is yet to materialise.

I think market is still undecided. I'm playing the next phase of the market in BTC swings or a very few alts with strong narrative. Only a BTC solidly above $52k would change my approach. I don't think we are in breakout territory. In a way, we need ETH to move as well

TheSTreetman:
Avax dey craze shaa. All top coins r doing numbers, e just dey Dia dey mumu. See ur mate Axs.

E done tire. Na sign to switch attention to another coin be that

Neobulletzz:
Isn’t it the same thing for Jorginho too, I mean Kovacic and Mount have never been nominated for award won by Jorginho too

Someone who cannot compete with Kovacic and Mount in his day-to-day football has no business being nominated for such awards

raumdeuter:
Will anything be wrong if Silva intercepts the pass from Bernadeschi?

Intercepting that pass is a low probability occurrence that exposes you to a higher chance of getting dribbled there. That pass went to Silvas right. If he overcommit, the bigger danger there is setting himself up for a dribble or for Bernadeschi to cut in on his right foot and shoot at Mendy from a good range with good chance of scoring. Silvas idea was 100% right but his execution was only 70%.

The Koko here is how you and Swiz recommended two opposing actions for Silva and both claimed he was primarily at fault. We are trying to figure out which one of you is correct. You said Silva should engage and let Bernadeschi attempt the dribble while Swiz said he should step back further than he has already done. I'm scratching my head.

swiz123:
Silva would have blocked the pass if he didn't rush towards Bernadeschi. Exactly why he should have stayed back

Silva was approaching from the left side so how will he block pass to the right side. He would have been even further from the pass if he stepped back

No Jorginho fan should come here and complain that we don't have an attacking midfielder. I will ask if that person has ever seen Jorginho play with an AM effectively and consistently before. We play with 7 defensive players because he is not robust enough to carry an AM as a DM.

Even Italy play with 7 defensive players, carrying 3 DMs in their midfield.

So Jorginho and AM don't mix. Let's be realistic in our expectations and accept our current defensive set-up since we don't have a capable DM..When TT wanted to bring on AMs on Wednesday, he had to take off Jorginho.

swiz123:
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Jorginho was almost on him before he passed the ball. Silva miscalculated the whole thing. He should have drifted some inches back. That would slow Bernadeschi down enough for Jorginho to either steal the ball or foul him.

So you think Bernadeschi will delay his pass to Chiesa because Silva backed up a few inches. The exact moment Bernadeschi will take any action is the exact moment Chiesa makes that run, whether Silva backs up few inches or not. Jorginho has not caught him by then , and Jorginho will never catch him cos Chiesas run is the exact moment that phase of play is over.

Jodera:
Like I said earlier if Kovacic had done is work well, Bernadeschi would have Silva and Jorginho (who was already closing down on him) to outwit. Bernardeschi is not a good dribbler and the highest thing he would have done was to draw a foul finish. Chiesa giving him the sweet option of laying a pass was what caused that goal and he (chiesa) didn't just appear.
And that's not a last man Silva, even Rudiger was closing in to mop up in case of anything. You've already agreed that kovacic is the biggest culprit, why do you still wanna drag Jorginho into this again?
Your argument would have been valid if Jorginho and kovacic swapped places.

If Jorginho did his work well, Kovacic won't even have to do any work. You forgot that bit?

benalvino3:
Because thats what the record shows. it was supposed to be 3 years because trump ran on obama's budget and started his 2018 budget early in 2017. thats why you have 2018, 19 and 20. but you said remove 2020 because of the pandemic.

If you are talking about average, we need a yearly total to add and divide to get the average. it is 2018 and 2019 for trump (3 years) without 2020

Trump submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget for fiscal year 2017, which continued until September 30, 2017.

Do you want to add 2017 to Trump and divide by 3 years? Whatever you want is fine with me, Obama will still trounce him. I can already see it in the numbers without reaching for calculator but you obviously struggle with arithmetic

swiz123:
Unlike your assessment of Horjberg which is entirely subjective. An objective assessment would take into consideration the fact that TOT regressed immediately he was signed.

Last time I checked, Spurs finished on 61 points the season before Hojberg was signed and finished on 62 points last season, while being voted their third best player behind Kane and Son while Jorginho has never been even nominated for awards won by common Kovacic and Mount.

benalvino3:
obama last 4 years is still higher than trump minus 2020. I just showed you the numbers that obama outspend trump aside from the pandemic. I still dont understand why you are ignoring that.

the stimulus obama did at the great recession is just $253 billion while trump is $2.2 trillion. the numbers i presented here are facts. obama added more debt.

Stop talking rubbish. How will you compare 4 years to 2 years.

Since I've dragged you to the well, now I must force you to drink.

Obama average overspend in last 4 years was $876bln. Trumps average overspend in his 2 years (excluding pandemic) was $1.417 trillion. Can you see the difference?

So tell me how.much Trump would spend with 4 clean years. He was already overspending Obama by 62% on average.

Jodera:
Thank you, that bolded is exactly what I wanted to read from you.

No matter how you wanna look at it there are errors that can lead to goals and there are some that can not. Jorginho error have 98% chance of the ball not being in the back of the net, same can't be said of Kovacic

Stop playing chicken and egg. Jogginghoe error led to a direct one-on-one with the last man and you are saying it's 98%. Is that how you judge risk of an opposition player running one-on-one with your last man? What if Jorginho doing his job ensures that whatever Kovacic does has 0% chance of leading to a goal.

benalvino3:
we are talking about the sum of money spent in 4 years. how you spend it will affect the average if you are calculating average. your zeal for the average does not matter when we are looking for the total.

Na simple maths. you act like you understand it too much but you are not seeing the fallacy on your part.

i Spend 6k in 2 years. 3k each year the average is 3k

you spend 8 k in 4 years. 2k each year the average is 2k.

so you are not making sense here. you are trying to act smart but i am not buying it. the sum is what we are looking at in a time frame. the average does not make sense

Stop talking rubbish or exposing your poor grasp of numbers

Obama has 7 years overspend to his credit. Trump has 2 years overspend to his credit. The average yearly overspend is the best comparator, or if you prefer, we can compare the last 2 years of Obama to Trumps 2 years.

The reason I laughed when obixcel resurrected his National debt talk was that Republicans loved talking about National debt when Obama was president then went quiet on it when Trump performance on National debt was worse than Obama's. I was conversant with the numbers even before I challenged obixcel on it, and we all know the Trump tax cuts was what made it worse. Obama had gotten it to under a trillion a year and the tax cuts took it back up to well over a trillion.

swiz123:
6 months is enough time for a player to improve.

What has he improved in?

We have been asking this question for weeks

Is he no longer lean, is he no longer weak? Is he dominating games?

Improve ko, improve ni. They park bus around a liability, you say the liability improved.

Putting icing on bread does not make it a cake.

benalvino3:
also what does average yearly debt have to do with anything when all we care about is the total debt added.

The money you spend or earn in 8 years can never be the same as that you do in 4 years assuming your earning power is relatively similar. The average is the only way to compare. Help us with the calculation from your own numbers you posted.

benalvino3:
President Donald Trump took office in January 2017. He submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget for fiscal year 2017, which continued until September 30, 2017.

The above there shows you have no clue. You do the maths and tell us. Stop acting like you are making a point. the numbers dont lie. use your phone calculator and do it.

Very good, since 2017 was a low number.

Give me the average yearly overspend 2010 to 2017 (Obama) Vs the average yearly overspend 2018-2019 (Trump without pandemic).

I believe you can calculate the above despite your state school education.

Let's use your own numbers below

FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion
FY 2017 - $671 billion
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion
FY 2015 - $326 billion
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion
FY 2013 - $672 billion
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion