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ono:
That must be it. Thanks. Best to ignore the dolt.

Have you seen the thread on the release of a wanted terrorist who is now joining the Afgan security forces as their chief? I smell Obama de O dumber in all these. These are his signature style of relating with the terrorists and sick old Joe is just dancing along!

Bros, what happened to Biden being arrested on March 4th?

swiz123:
Seems like you have perfected your excuse cos Chelsea is looking like they are going to win the league with Jorginho in mildfield.

Why doesn't TT take him off?

I wish it were so but I can't see a defensive system created to protect Jorginho getting the 95 points it will take

basilico:
I think we don't understand each other. I meant Black Lives Matter not Burn Loot Murder group.
The latter are in S Africa.

The reason Black LM would burn churches is because Jesus is portrayed as White.They really did burn bibles in Portland over that.

Such a shame google censors news not favourable to BLM.

https://www.rt.com/usa/490354-stjohn-church-fire-washington/

Save this energy for EndSars.

Even Bob Marley knows what happens when oppressed people protest


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M99nzyiS830

swiz123:
Jorginho had a relatively bad game and the Wolves have started brandishing their fangs.

Even livescores analysts

It's a fact that Jorginho is no longer a playmaker under Tuchel, just a spare man to clean up players that the packed defence harrass into tight spots in midfield. That's why I laughed when DonJ said he's the best playmaker in England. It took for Tuchel to take playmaking away from him for Chelsea to become successful.

Below is the match against Aston Villa on the last day of last season. Jorginho again with the poverty passing stats.

BlueAngel444:
Evidence 1 This person did not watch the match, yet he malign a Balon d'or contend. I believe he should be ban for his crappy and biased opinion on Jorginho

This is what I saw sister

As of the time Kovacic went off, he had 25 passes more than Jorginho in the match.

I come dey wonder wetin that guy dey do for pitch if not his famed high volume passing. It's been like this since Tuchel came. Jorginho dropping poverty passes but his tackles and interceptions went up. Meaning all he does is clean up awoof after the 3 centrebacks have corralled opposition into a tight corner.

The 3 centrebacks now do all the passing and his midfield partner does even more than him quite often.

popizaino:
Jorginho sucks,he makes it hard to defend him.......even when we were two goals up, this idiot couldn't take a risk to safe his life,always looking for the safest option of passing,if other midfielders had been playing like the mumu guy,na 0 - 0 most of games for don dey end.Had kovacic not taken the initiative to drive the ball forward and quickly get the pass to Lukaku to cause some disruption to arsenal backline,I wonder how we won have scored? Idiot will not use his body and beat players,he will not pass forward only to be passing back always .

Upon all that, Kovacic completed more passes in 70 minutes than he did in 90 mins.

Jorginho is in a cocoon in that packed defence. Even the 3 man defence has taken away his high volume of passing as the defenders do most of the passing now. He literally serves no purpose except as the 11th man to clean up any spilled balls. He is just a spare man.

benalvino3:
It's over. The team is just too abysmal

Something to trigger the old man

In the voice of Mr Macaroni, you are doing well. Try and help your brothers, especially those earning Civil servant salary, those hoping for N200K per month, and those sniffing petrol fumes everyday.

We are Chelsea fans and we like our big bully strikers

Imagine United fans were looking at Lukakus strength as a negative

Been on the road for 5 hours. I heard Ukaku is bullying those ninnies

BlueMann:
Poor Norwich...which kain welcome back be this?

Jus dey collect back to back.

Their manager no go ever learn. Always playing open football against teams wey senior them

Griffon:
Na like this we dey start get issue for our club.

Trevor don impress TT to the point that he doesn't need Kounde anymore but Marina isn't buying that. She's angling to land the Frenchman with hopes to resell for a higher value in the future. And there's no better time to make the move than now Barca and Madrid are battling financial ish.

She's doing her job no doubt but then, TT is equally doing his job. He's the manager and wants to have a happy squad. No need stacking up unhappy players.

Na like this problem dey take start.

Marina gets high from competing deals whether the deal is wise or not.

That's how Executives roll. They will start hi-fiving each other and book bottles of champagne to celebrate pushing a Bakayoko transfer across the line. Their mumu no be here

AmazonTopaz:
Tdotbluejays Salford ibime prideoflincoln2 disstroyer is nothing but a loudmouthed fraud
This guy is defaming me he said I own a certain Monicker and used it to defraud boys and I dated a guy on nairaland ( me )

Please ignore that Kemi Olunyolo of Nairaland

timbros:
Captain Salah masterclass loading...

For where. His record against Burnley is poor. I switched captain to Fernandes and so far, so good.

Both of my Liverpool defenders with the assists. Raumdeuter is done out here.

BlueAngel444:
So stick with swizz, muah

Some guys here still think you are a man.

Only woman dey blow kiss oh

timbros:
Why was Emerson not nominated? Isn't he lucky to be in a team that won both UCL and Euros?

Emerson didn't play UCL. Mount would have been nominated if England won Euros

Heaven rejoices when a Saint is called home

swiz123:
I am still well aware of his weakness. I once told you this here. Every player has a weakness, that's why they are human.

What a good manager does is to find the best approach to shield his players' weaknesses from opponents.

We will see how Tuchel parking bus to shield Jorginhos weakness will win him the league.

Everyone from West Brom to Villa to Leicester were still rãping Jorginho on the domestic level even under Tuchel last season.

You think parking bus in tournaments and relying on single goals and luck will satisfy the needs of being a team consistent enough to beat majority of opponents

If he is not a base to build on week in, week out, you are just going on a fool's errand making him out to be a key player for Chelsea to build on. His weakness is still fundamental to the team.

Anybody can win a tournament with Mikel in 2012, but cannot build a consistent team on him. You can ask around how much I backed my points on Mikel in 2012 till it became evident to all and sundry.

Na here we dey. I am not a coward that will have an opinion on a player and be swayed by tactical circumstance and luck in tournaments. The proof will be in the consistency. Either Chelsea continue to stumble along parking bus to protect Jorginho while grinding out slim wins or dropping points, or Chelsea get a DM that can allow them to go on the front foot and win games comfortably consistently.

Lampard did not do anything to that boy. Lampard gave him shirt, but played attacking football that exposed Jorginho. Same thing with Sarri who played offensive football and was hurt by that boy getting run over by Bournemouth 4-0 and City 6-0. The minute Tuchel decides he wants to go for consistent 3 points each week, he will drop the parked bus and Jorginho will let him down - or he will buy a capable DM to allow him to do that.

swiz123:
Jorginho is and will still be competing at the highest level. Taking your L on this your league life-line is a matter of when not if.

Where is your best manager Lampard? Who is looking toward his side after his disastrous spell at Chelsea? Palace even signed a black coach while Lampard is still considering if he has a career.

Abramovich took care of the imminent threat to our corporate existence as a club. A fool who led me astray

A convenient excuse for you to use Lampard for speaking the truth about Jogginghoe. Nobody is discussing Lampard with you here. Stop switching the topic.

After watching Jogginghoe play under Sarri, this is what you said.

Stop making noise about Lampard, who nobody is discussing with you. You came to the conclusion having done unbiased research under Sarri, now trying to blame Lampard knowing it will be a popular way to save face having been caught pants down. You are spineless.

You changed opinion on a player you know is weak because it became popular to do so. You know he's still weak but spinelessly trying to excuse yourself by blaming Lampard because it's popular to do so. Cowards die a thousand deaths.

Jorginho is still lean, weak and all round disaster like you said, and I stand by that despite everything Tuchel did to protect him.

swiz123:
Sarri left us with two calamities in Kepa and Jorginho. Now we are stuck with finding a way to offload them.

The problem is, which benevolent club would be magnanimous enough to spare some paltry funds on those two players.

Sarri!!!! you shall remain jobless even in the banking sector.

swiz123:
I have taken my time to make an unbiased research or Jorginho's strength and I seem to find weakness instead of strength. Jorginho's uselessness is truly a mystery.

The decision to replace Fabregas with this clown must be the most foolish decision taken by a club.

swiz123:
He can't fit in at Chelsea due to our style of play which isn't unconnected to the physicality of the league.
However, the argument was between Jorginho and Bousquet, and the later will obviously do better at Chelsea than the former...

I wake up everyday thanking God for my physique cos I can't imagine myself looking as Lin and weak as Jorginho.

when we had Fabregas, he compensated for his sluggishness with his precision passes which accounted for his many assists. Jorginho is an all round disaster whose presence does not only undermine, but also displaces Kante.

swiz123:
We learn everyday. Tuchel opened my eyes that Lampard was a clueless manager who stole a living from us for complete 2 years. Look at you not relenting in slandering Jorginho despite his staggering improvement, yet formed political correctness up until Abramovich had enough of Lampard. You covered for that dunce knowing fully well we were heading for the gutters because you can't set your emotions aside and see things clearly -- a trait you share bountifully with your herds.

Lampard was going to relegate us; but you'd rather have Jorginho leave than have that imminent threat gotten rid of due bias you have for Lampard the player.

Stop talking rubbish. You did an unbiased review right from the day they signed Jogginghoe, including under his father Sarri and concluded he is lean, weak and an all-round disaster.

Tuchel did not open eyes to anything. Tuchel only parked bus to protect the very same weaknesses both you, I and Tuchel know he has. If Tuchel had Idrissa Gueye or any other DM, he won't be parking bus but playing his usual 4-3-3.

You said Jorginho is lean, Tuchel did not make him gain weight

You said Jorginho is weak, Tuchel did not make him benchpress.

Tuchel actually even took him away from his strengths which is passing and played a defensive formation that reduced his passing. As a result of Tuchel parking bus, you can't even say Tuchel brought out his individual strength of passing.

You are just one of those using titles to validate a player. A player weakness does not disappear because he won title under a system a manager deployed to protect the team from his weakness.

If Tuchel wants to win league now, he will need to start beating teams comfortably and regularly which means bringing Jorginho out of his bus parked comfort zone and potentially exposing those weaknesses again.

Ebukacute:
Always quick to criticize our players.every Chelsea player has a flaw ,including kante who they were once proposing that he should be sold but when it comes to jorginho ,he is not good at all. Lampard,sarri,tuchel,Mancini, and even apariola and all other coaches who voted him into the POTY list rates him but our nairaland nsukka peace park analysts are forcing their "he is not good at all" agenda on us. I don't have problem with criticising a player impartially though but why not take your L when that person comes good. A POTY contender not good at all? Ovoko!!!!! See them cursing jorginho with scummies that hyped Bruno to the extent of comparing his chances of winning POTY with dem messi,lewy,cr7 and co. End of season the hated jorginho is on the list of UCL POTY and Bruno appeared on the Europa list where his level is,and instead of these haters to applaud jorginho and wish him well with prayers that he will continue improving ,they are here looking for who to share the gigantic L with... This L na una get am,all of una wey see nothing good in jorginho and whether una like am or not,una go chop am

Jorginho is only on list because his teams won UEFA tournaments twice in the same season. That's normal.

Stars aligned for him. If Donnaruma hadn't saved penalties, Jorginho would not be on any list. Nobody has Jorginho as the mainstay of our UCL win. Kante was MOTM in every match from QF to Final.

If even Dele Alli should be lucky to be in a team that wins both UCL and Euros, he will be nominated. That's just how the voting works, not because Jorginho is a don.

6 months ago, he was lean - he hasn't added weight

6 months ago, he was weak - he hasn't been to gym

6 months ago, he was an all round disaster - thank God for bus parking. Take that away and he is still an all round disaster.

donjazet:
Why on Earth are people like ibime finding it hard to swallow their goddamn L?? It's not cowardice to acknowledge your wrong. It's what makes us human.

Why will I acknowledge I'm wrong?

Wrong about what - that he is an escort or easily dominated?

I will never call a wack player good just because he was lucky to be part of a.winning team. Mikel and Ramires won UCL and I called them wack. Emerson was as good as any Italy Player in the semi and final and I don't see anyone clamouring for him to wear Chelsea shirt.

Jorginho is a wack escort and an impediment to Chelsea and I want him out of my club. Simples.

None of my criticism of Jorginho has been invalidated because teams parked the bus to protect him. I am not one that will call him lean weak, an all round disaster and change mouth three months later because Tuchel and Mancini decided to play community defence.

Jorginho is lean, weak and an all-around disaster - Swiz, July 2020

BlueAngel444:
Italy sat deep not because of their OLD men in CB, Jorginho can't play half way line because of some crap even if Jorginho plays deep he won't still out run his muscle capacity.

Whether because Italy centrebacks are old or not, the fact is Jorginho has only succeeded in a bus parking capacity.

Winning the league requires beating majority of teams comfortably and a DM that allows Chelsea to play on the front foot will facilitate that. I will not want Chelsea to be built on the premise to maybe sneak through tight tournament games with a piece of luck here and there as is the case right now.

patrickmuf:
Positional improvement? No, he has not improved any bit but you'll hardly notice as they're a lot of players covering incase of any slip up...You'd notice that it's only after a goal is scored that most folks delve into analysis of the events leading to the goal, I'd urge you to pay close attention to Jorginho when he is not recycling possession (I mean his defensive action) and you'd see that he still struggles to keep up with attacks but due to the sheer numbers behind him, in most cases than not, they manage to stop the attack...

This was evident in the UCL final where he was responsible for Man City's 4 chances. Thanks to Rudiger and Chilwell for last minute blocks to save him. People only focussed on the result, glossing over the moments of danger caused by his escorting

patrickmuf:
What’s difficult to understand there?

If Tuchel trust Jorginho, he should switch to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1...At the moment Chelsea plays 5 defenders and 2 holding midfielders plus Mount who is renowned for his hardwork...If you don't think 3 CBs, 2 wingers and another DM/B2B midfielder beside Jorginho helps covers his weakness then it's obvious you just started watching Chelsea...

You've said it all.

Jorginho, the only playmaker in the world that forces his team to play defensive football.

swiz123:
If TT's approach is the reason for his improvement, couldn't Lampard's approach be the reason for the worst days of his life.

Nihilist has already pulled your post from Sarri days and we saw you do an unbiased research since the day Jorginho signed before coming to your conclusion.

swiz123:
Remember, Lampard paired him at times with Mount and Havertz as double 8 when Kante was injured. Sometimes Mount and Kovacic. Mount hardly maintains his position and I remember Peter Drury saying that Mount plays so high up the pitch leaving his position exposed for runners during counters. Let's not talk about Kovacic lack of positional awareness or low response. TT brought the right approach and everyone is breathing fresh air. After all, a coach's responsibility is to maximum his player's strength and hide their weaknesses

Yet you will be the first to call for Havertz to play no10 in a 4-2-3-1, turning Jorginho into a weak link again.

TT parked bus around Jorginho. He is still the same useless Jorginho.

patrickmuf:
Italy played Jorginho beside Veratti, a proper midfield controller who is one of the best press resistant midfielders in the world and a very combative Barella...

Italy were taken to extra time by Austria, scrapped past an injury ravaged Belgium, outplayed by Spain and needed penalties and against England also relied on penalties...

Italy also sat very deep, and played with 3 defensive midfielders.

Jorginho is still a weak link.

Quote me anyday.

basilico:
We don't tune in to a channel that says what we want to hear. We tune in to several, listen critically and decipher the truth.
We are not zombies, we are well informed and not brainwashed , Thats how we are able to dispatch an army of Obama cultists singlehandedly without batting an eyelid.

Onward Christian soldier. How much do you get paid for that?

patrickmuf:
If no be for this better digging, that Swiz guy for come dey form Saint here dey drag people...

When him come back to continue the dragging, e go shock am...

How Swiz123 mentions will be feeling to him after he finally log back in to Nairaland

nihilistjnr:
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PrideofLincoln2:
Does that junk he posted needs any reply. A loco loco still believing the election was rigged. Tell me if that's not mental illness. In my neck of the wood, we do not exchange words with a certified fruitcake.

You're right

nihilistjnr:
After doing an unbiased research and finding nothing but weakness?

When Isaac Newton did his unbiased research and discovered gravity, can anything change the law of gravity again? Oya walk upside down let us see

How this guy was making these comments after observing Jorginho for two and a half years, then come back 6 months later to form Jorginho maxi will baffle Mother Theresa