Truthissupreme:
what original text

Are these not in your Quran and Hadith

Oya quote them fully and give the reference...lets see...lemme disgrace you and expose you to the fullest...

Shamefull polytheist pagan

Truthissupreme:
you are very stupid

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Killing is a small thing to Mohammed who killed for fun when his ego was hurt

Please put lies and insult aside...hatred will lead you to nowhere but hellfire....

Dont quote things out of context

Lets analyze your claim.....Quote the original text you claimed lets see who is lying

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Truthissupreme:
ok so killing is justified in islam so long there is reason abi?

The killer has his reason meaning Quran agrees with him

[/s]Please dont let hatred make you appear so dumb next time...lemme educate you a lil


No, “honor killings”—which refer to violence, generally against girls or women, by one or more family members who believe the victim has brought dishonor upon the family—are prohibited by Islam on the basis of not just one but several principles. First, they violate the sanctity of life, which is considered sacrosanct; second, they fail to respect the right of due process for anyone accused of a crime; and, third, they contradict the principle that each individual is responsible for his or her own actions and that no individual or family member should be held responsible for the behavior of another. In fact, the Qur’an specifically prohibits even speaking ill of a woman without the testimony of four witnesses and calls for the punishment of one who does so without this virtually impossible requirement.

We believe that Islamic teachings clearly prohibit killing innocent civilians. While there are obviously extremist Muslims who disagree with this stance, the position of the Muslim majority is clear, as demonstrated by repeated condemnations by Muslim scholars and leaders across the world.

While one cannot speak for their motivations or methodology, Muslim terrorists use the Qur’an the same way that Christian extremists such as the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations or Jewish extremists such as Meir Kahane and Baruch Goldstein in Israel use the Bible: by taking phrases out of context and developing interpretations that serve their agenda.

They also ignore principles of the interpretation of texts followed by legitimate scholars of religion, above all the principle that a text must be understood with reference to the time, place, and situation in which it was given. The Qur’an, like other seminal religious texts, has a dual nature: one that is specific (particular or transitional) to the occasion, time, and place, and another that is universal and permanent, dealing with principles that apply for all times and places. 

Most of the terrorism committed by people claiming Islam as their motivation is justified by a methodology that bypasses the bulk of classical scholarship. Various legal issues that pertained to the majority of the Muslim community were often left to the discretion and judgement of qualified scholars. ISIS and other similar groups, however, discount the role filled by traditional scholars.

Agboriotejoye:


Is that all?

Osama has a Ph.d in Islamic law
Yusuf the founder of book haram was an Islamic cleric as well
Sheikh Pantami is happy when unbelievers are killed

So WTF are you saying?

these are mere mypoic thought that can only sprang from a brainwashed fellow...

Lemme take my time to debunk you and expose your hypocrisy....

The Boko Haram, ISWAP and all the bandit groups scattered across do not attract the sympathy of the Muslims and none of their leaders even pretends to represent Islam or protect the interests of the Muslims. They are indefensible criminals. Simple and short.

In Nigeria
From Mohammed Marwa AKA Maitatsine of the early 1980s to Mohamed Yusuf of the late 2000s, the North has never formed a consensual bloc in defence of the operations of criminal and insurgent groups. The rebellious groups have always functioned as outcasts, and fiercely opposed. Maitatsine and Yusuf began as laughing stocks in Kano and Maiduguri, respectively, and treated as lunatic clerics and considered misled and lost, before they broke out and got out of hand. They were never ever popular leaders in the northern society.
So, whenever I read ignorant takes from people like you I laugh...


"Muslims are terrible", you claim. "Muslims are terrorists" But I bet you, if you click the reaction to any bad symphatetic news report online, you will not find one Muslim reacting with a laughing emoji or supporting any bad act.

But people like you are happy that terrorism and killings are taking place in the country and even try to relate it to Islam to quench your urge of hatred and Islamaphobia

You are happy that police officers are killed. They always showcase their attitudes of lack of manners and home training. These same people will on the next trend claim Islam is a religion of violence and Muslims are violent.
When you curse a person, the curse goes up to the heavens and return to you if the person is undeserving of it.

All the insults on Prophet Muhammad,(PBUH) the Muslim community received during the Boko Haram insurgency has gone up to the heavens and came back to those who cursed us and they have all gone mad.

3-4 year's ago, nobody would have thought that some people in the South-East would take up arms and start mindlessly killing people, cutting off heads and then come on social media to celebrate and laugh over it.

During the EndSARS uprising of fools, police officers were killed in the South, but in the East, they did not just kill officers, most of the ones they killed they mutilated and decapitated them thereafter. The only thing they did not do was to roast and eat them like the Sallah day massacre in Plateau in 2011 when some Plateau youths attacked worshippers on Eid day, killed, roasted and eat the dead bodies. It's just a matter of time, they will start eating the dead bodies of their victims as the curse spreads.

It does not matter your grievances with a person or a people, if evil befalls them you cannot afford to be happy about it. To be happy for evil makes you evil. I can say I hate the "State of Israel" because I consider it a racist and apartheid entity, but if calamity befalls its citizens, I can not be happy. Your hate should be measured.

Boko Haram became the monster it is not because Muslim scholars did not denounce their ideology, they did and some were killed for doing that.

The ideology of hate and bigotry in the South East is there mostly because Christian leaders in the country encouraged it with their anti-North and anti-Muslim sermons and conspiracy theories.
If this post offends you, I am sorry that is not my intention. If you are still angry after the apology, then I can not help you.

These thread tends to bash Islam and Muslims...

It is clear NL are sentimental in their reportage

Anyway it gives me the opportunity to help educate the guilible populace that are easily brainwashed by programmed lies against Islam

No, “honor killings”—which refer to violence, generally against girls or women, by one or more family members who believe the victim has brought dishonor upon the family—are prohibited by Islam on the basis of not just one but several principles. First, they violate the sanctity of life, which is considered sacrosanct; second, they fail to respect the right of due process for anyone accused of a crime; and, third, they contradict the principle that each individual is responsible for his or her own actions and that no individual or family member should be held responsible for the behavior of another. In fact, the Qur’an specifically prohibits even speaking ill of a woman without the testimony of four witnesses and calls for the punishment of one who does so without this virtually impossible requirement.

We believe that Islamic teachings clearly prohibit killing innocent civilians. While there are obviously extremist Muslims who disagree with this stance, the position of the Muslim majority is clear, as demonstrated by repeated condemnations by Muslim scholars and leaders across the world.

While one cannot speak for their motivations or methodology, Muslim terrorists use the Qur’an the same way that Christian extremists such as the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations or Jewish extremists such as Meir Kahane and Baruch Goldstein in Israel use the Bible: by taking phrases out of context and developing interpretations that serve their agenda.

They also ignore principles of the interpretation of texts followed by legitimate scholars of religion, above all the principle that a text must be understood with reference to the time, place, and situation in which it was given. The Qur’an, like other seminal religious texts, has a dual nature: one that is specific (particular or transitional) to the occasion, time, and place, and another that is universal and permanent, dealing with principles that apply for all times and places. 

Most of the terrorism committed by people claiming Islam as their motivation is justified by a methodology that bypasses the bulk of classical scholarship. Various legal issues that pertained to the majority of the Muslim community were often left to the discretion and judgement of qualified scholars. ISIS and other similar groups, however, discount the role filled by traditional scholars.

"Whosoever kills a human being without (any reason like) man slaughter, or corruption on earth, it is as though he had killed all mankind ..." (5:32)

eas01:


You an olodo oo. The FAAC allocated to the Niger delta is gotten from resources in their region. What is the northern contribution to the federal purse? Tell me. Your GDP is a function of southern resources and VAT.
The Nigerian delta militants are fighting for the right to own their land and resources. The not fighting to own Kano or sokoto are they? Unlike your herders that are fighting for the right to destroy people's farms. Meschewwww. If NDDC wastes money, it's not your business. It is their resources from their land. The illegal gold exports from zamfara doesn't benefit the south but your northern elite. Your dirty agriculture depends on southern resources. The south are net losers in Nigeria and the arewa aboki north - NE and NW are net gainers.
You contribute nothing. Your agriculture depends on southern money for investment, we in the south and middlebelt now buy from you. It ain't free. If you choose not to sell to us we can buy else where and even grow our food.
You all are leeches.

Online tribalist haters are just making empty noise here with no knowledge ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%

Unjust hatred for people will consume you. We see the obvious in the very hilarious VAT battle that is happening. I just dey observe.
Many supported Governor Wike's decision to be collecting VAT because they say "the North contributes nothing and they want to be collecting". But if they know their facts they will understand that they are digging a hole for themselves. They will realize it is all of us that will suffer when States collect VAT.
First of all, after Lagos, the next place that contributes the highest VAT (20%) is the FCT which is in the North. Yes this is followed by Rivers at 6% but Kano is next with 5% and this is followed by Kaduna. So no, it is not as you have been misinformed. The only special case is Lagos. So your State will suffer. Even Lagos will suffer with much more people migrating there. When resources are shared among Federating Units, it is shallow to always think it is injustice. Give Lagos 100% of it's VAT, Mukaila from Sokoto, Chinedu from Aba and even Lasisi from Osun will all migrate there. So what is the point again?

The North is far bigger in land mass & population than the South.
It has the highest number of states & local governments.
The North has some of the most powerful governors, senators, federal appointees, politicians both serving & retired in Nigeria.
The North also has the richest men & biggest captains of industry in Nigeria.
It has the highest number of military Generals both serving & retired.
The North equally has its fair share of reknown & accomplished academics in Nigeria & abroad in foreign universities.
It has reknown religious scholars & fiery clerics as well as its fair share of unrepentant religious fundamentalists, radicals, hoodlums, criminals & terrorists.
Inspite of all these, watch that whatever positions are zoned to them come 2023, they will choose, present & support their candidate seamlessly with less or no friction, rancour, dirty fight in public or the pages of newspapers & without assassinating each other. They understand politics & leadership. It's no coincidence therefore, that they have what they have. Islam is what regulates them and make them peaceful and never care to address the dirty lies, slander and insults from southerners online.
But you see this presidency of Nigeria Southerners are threatening everybody that they must have come 2023;
this 2023 presidency useless Southern governors & politicians are galivanting up & down insisting they must have -- governors & politicians whose only idea of governance is to issue press statements every month on Fulani herdsmen, cattle grazing & 2023 presidency to distract their gullible state citizens from the resources & allocations of their states they have stolen with nothing to show for it;
you will see how these Southern governors & greedy power drunk Southern politicians will kill & destroy each other just to pick & present one presidential candidate.
Watch how they will burn down the South with insecurity on the eve of 2023 as all these militias, unknown gunmen, Amotekun, Ebube Agu, ESN, OPC, Cult gangs, the various states police & vigilantes in the South will get new sponsors in these Southern governors & politicians as well as new sophisticated weapons from them as they jostle to eliminate each other & weaken the political base of their opponents to be able to pick the presidential ticket for themselves.
The sad shame however is that after destroying themselves, The Southern homeland, wasting the resources of Southern states & the lives of Southern misguided youths just to pick a presidential ticket, they will still turn back & blame the North for the destruction their unbridled greed for power for selfish ends brought on the South.
You see this Southern presidential agitations...
Well, enough said already!

Agboriotejoye:


Lies. The north has always been poor. Even during the colonial times.

Did u know DAT Alhassan Dantata was d West African Richest Man in 1940's..
He built d groundnuts pyramid and dealt in kolanuts..

Each pyramid is filled with 15000 bags..
He was a supplier to British companies..
Alhassan dantata opened an account wit British Bank of West Africa (now first bank) with 20-camels load of silver coin in kano,Nigeria in 1929..

His great grandson. .
Aliko Dangote is the world richest Blackman..

And now DAT u've knew..
U can now go to sleep..



Gudmrn

September 23, 2020:
We are in total support of the sit-at-home order issued by IPOB to all Biafrans in the country and in the diaspora.
If IPOB said so, we are supporting it. They are our children. We are supporting it since it is not against the law and so far as it is not a violent act. It is obtainable anywhere in the world. So, we are totally in support of it.”
~ Barrister Uche Achi Okpaga
National Publicity Secretary
Ohaneze Ndigbo.
September 14, 2021:
It’s nonsensical for any right-thinking Igbo to hinder our youngsters from participating in the WACE examinations under any guise of self-determination. Ndigbo are known to be first-class educationists and entrepreneurs; this new trend is certainly alien to Igboland.
This madness has reached the zenith of stupidity and must decline; it’s on record that Igbo students have remained outstanding in the WACE examination, with spectacular results, so anyone trying to remove this mark is an enemy of Ndigbo.
We have reached the end of the road. Ndigbo have lost almost N3.8 trillion in all facets of economic and social activities due to this absurdity.
This must be terminated instantly for our survival. We are in support of state governments to sack and reshuffle all market leadership in the southeast who are supporting the sit-at-home order.
A time has come for an emergency meeting with Igbo Town Union Administrators, market leaders and other pro-Biafra agitators whose conducts are in line with Igbo interests.
We should not fold our hands and allow for a total destruction of the South-East; our enemies are already holding a tea party and we should not allow it to continue.
~ Mazi Okechukwu Isiguzoro
Secretary General
Ohaneze Ndigbo
We go well las las!

If the Niger Delta states & their governments, their drunk mentally lazy bandit governors, their insatiable & unrepentant greedy elders, politicians & militant leaders cornering everything meant for the people had utilized the 6 trillion naira NDDC funds, additional tens of trillions of naira from statutory allocations, 13% derivation allocations, ecological funds, Ministry of Niger Delta funds, royalties & rents etc in the past 20 years to build the economy & infrastructure of Niger Delta, they won't be today shamelessly moving in & out of courts in Nigeria over VAT from beer & Lagos will be nowhere near Delta, Rivers or Akwa Ibom in IGR.
Now, they are instigating a VAT war with FG to cover the monumental failure in delivering governance to their people & the mindless terrorism on the people of Niger Delta recently uncovered in NDDC.

The North is capable of functioning independently. The example of Kaduna overtaking Kano in that ranking of viable states is a theory easy to analyze.
Before oil rents distracted northern political elites, the Native Authority system had far-reaching tax-collecting structures and a flourishing agrarian economy servicing the needs of the region. What the North achieved in that system is unfortunately still the high-point of the region today. Without oil rents, they built Ahmadu Bello University, which is still the largest in sub-Saharan Africa and Ahmadu Bello Stadium, one of the best sports facilities then. They also set up New Nigerian Development Company, the largest black-owned conglomerate in Sub-Saharan Africa then.
The North of that agrarian era was an industrial hub, as the policymakers built new cities, textile factories, hospitals and distinguished institutions, one of which was the prestigious Kaduna Polytechnic, which was also the largest of its kind in Africa south of the Sahara then. Their overly spoon-fed successors, unfortunately, lack this ambition and the reason is this jamboree bankrolled by the South which, evidently, is not sustainable.

The South has had enough of spoon-feeding the North and the polarization that undercuts national politics in the past few years was powered by this disdain. If northern policymakers were paying attention to the countenance of their southern colleagues, and the indignity of being serially singled out as the stumbling block of Nigeria’s progress even by southern states that aren’t doing well, a roadmap for escaping this parasitism stereotype would’ve been long designed.

Despite the bad press and blame game, many northern states fare better than the very southern states quick to ridicule them and have demonstrated more capability in generating internal revenue. In its latest Annual State Viability Index (ASVI), the Economic Confidential developed the viability index of states based on each state’s Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) as a percentage of its Federal Accounts Allocation (FAA) for the year and the results were interesting.

What’s shocking is that even terrorist-ravaged states like Zamfara generated more internal revenues than most southern states. Zamfara State ranks 12th, ahead of Ebonyi 16, Abia 20, Imo 21 and, unbelievably, oil-rich Bayelsa 36!

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colorsofrainbow:


Keep weeping
All of a sudden,terrorists from the Fulani care more about Igbos

[/s]The actual Terrorist kills his daughter for rituals destroy his region and cripple his economy with sit at home nonesense

This sit at home nonsense goes a long way in showing you how dumb these people are to reality.....common sense is not common!

They chased their own students writing exams away from hall

In the end,
the dumb terrorists in the South East will tell the students & their parents that it was Buhari & his Fulani brothers that made them lose one academic year for missing the NECO exams which the IPOB/ESN terrorists themselves forced the students, teachers & examiners out of exam halls & destroyed exam materials.
And they will believe!

And their contrived hate for Buhari & Fulanis will increase for no reason other than the wickedness of their own Igbo brothers against them.

That's the tragedy in this whole shameful & thoughtless foolishness!

Forsooth!

eas01:

Again i told you from the start the north was forcefully almagamated with the north because the north was in debt and backward. The positive balance of payment of the south was used to support the north. The muslim north you talk about is the NE and NW except Taraba and Adamawa which are not muslim states.
Since you so confident in your self sufficiency, fight for regionalism. I dont know how the muslim north won as you say because based on all Human development indices, the NE and NW are the most backward. You guys would have been more backward like your niger and chad brothers if you were your own country. Face fact. Places like kaduna for example have most of its GDP from FG patronage. Virtually a huge chunk of FG angencies, military infrastructure in located in kaduna. Just imagine. All these are funded with FG money gotten from the south; the whole ecosystem from payment of salary down to the lady who sells in a corner shop. Its all there thanks to FG infrastructure located in kaduna state. Kaduna has more FG agencies.. than the south and middlebelt combined. All these funded with southern and middlebelt resources and VAT. After you will tell me that kaduna is at the top. . I laugh in mohammed.

mad

eas01:

Again i told you from the start the north was forcefully almagamated with the north because the north was in debt and backward. The positive balance of payment of the south was used to support the north. The muslim north you talk about is the NE and NW except Taraba and Adamawa which are not muslim states.
Since you so confident in your self sufficiency, fight for regionalism. I dont know how the muslim north won as you say because based on all Human development indices, the NE and NW are the most backward. You guys would have been more backward like your niger and chad brothers if you were your own country. Face fact. Places like kaduna for example have most of its GDP from FG patronage. Virtually a huge chunk of FG angencies, military infrastructure in located in kaduna. Just imagine. All these are funded with FG money gotten from the south; the whole ecosystem from payment of salary down to the lady who sells in a corner shop. Its all there thanks to FG infrastructure located in kaduna state. Kaduna has more FG agencies.. than the south and middlebelt combined. All these funded with southern and middlebelt resources and VAT. After you will tell me that kaduna is at the top. . I laugh in mohammed.

Anti-Muslim demagoguery like you rely on the demonization of the Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam), who is characterized by Islam-hating liars as been bad because they have nothing to offer....I really pity you guys

Polytheist trinitarian pagans

eas01:

Again i told you from the start the north was forcefully almagamated with the north because the north was in debt and backward. The positive balance of payment of the south was used to support the north. The muslim north you talk about is the NE and NW except Taraba and Adamawa which are not muslim states.
Since you so confident in your self sufficiency, fight for regionalism. I dont know how the muslim north won as you say because based on all Human development indices, the NE and NW are the most backward. You guys would have been more backward like your niger and chad brothers if you were your own country. Face fact. Places like kaduna for example have most of its GDP from FG patronage. Virtually a huge chunk of FG angencies, military infrastructure in located in kaduna. Just imagine. All these are funded with FG money gotten from the south; the whole ecosystem from payment of salary down to the lady who sells in a corner shop. Its all there thanks to FG infrastructure located in kaduna state. Kaduna has more FG agencies.. than the south and middlebelt combined. All these funded with southern and middlebelt resources and VAT. After you will tell me that kaduna is at the top. . I laugh in mohammed.

useless Nyamiri flat headed monster from the HIV and Erosion ravaged region 

Is that how one behaves when he worship a human being?

In the end,
the terrorists in the South East will tell the students & their parents that it was Buhari & his Fulani brothers that made them lose one academic year for missing the NECO exams which the IPOB/ESN terrorists themselves forced the students, teachers & examiners out of exam halls & destroyed exam materials.
And they will believe!
And their contrived hate for Buhari & Fulanis will increase for no reason other than the wickedness of their own Igbo brothers against them.
That's the tragedy in this whole shameful & thoughtless foolishness!

eas01:

All these essays you keep plucking from where ever is hogwash. Okay, since the Arewa aboki NE and NW are more economically viable and can generate bigger IGRs than most southern states as you say, support resource control for every state with each state contributing a percentage to the centre and support state collection of VAT. Simple ! QED !
But we all know the reality. i repeat the GDP of aboki NE and NW is a function of oil proceeds, VAT; Oil proceeds is from the south and VAT contribution is from the south. Your whole economy is built on southern money. Even your agriculture. The FG invests in agriculture in the aboki NE and NW with money from southern oil proceeds, VAT, remittance payments... Then you sell your products to us. You even supposed to give us food for free. Ungrateful mallams.
You claim zamfara IGR is more than alot of southern states. That is simply because zamfara taxes more than those states. IGR is state government revenue from taxation and other fees. The GDP of zamfara is less tham most southern states. Heck, delta state with upwards of 6M people has a higher GDP than kano that claims to have a population of 15M. I laugh in fula.

As for you cynics that have no value to add in the dilemma except vituperation, and abuses, we know that is the substance they are made up of. No qualms whatsoever! you don’t expect fragrance from feces.

Fiscal federalism or true federalism (which means regionalism), control of resources in your region, etc., Like weak centre and active region, I swear to God, these aren't idea that people squeezed from thin air.
These were ideas propagated from the works and ideas of Muslim politicians of the north before independence. (Just pick the book, my life by Sardauna Ahmadu Bello, and open the various debates in central legislative council from the Richard Governor general time, focussing more on macpherson time of 1956).
The ideas I mentioned were never gotten from awolowo, it was never gotten from azikiwe. It was gotten from Sardauna. Yes, Ahmadu Bello and his fellow intellectuals invented these ideas to protect the north. But Christian politicians in the south kept fighting it because they felt Nigeria is in their favour.
Eventually, they won, and Allah granted the muslim North victory with what they lost. The Christian south are now complaining.

eas01:


I am gonna address your numerous comments in this reply.
First off, you keep talking about the North, the North.... I hope you not including the middle belt in your definition because Benue, Kogi, Kwara, and Plateau are not the north. Even Adamawa and Taraba in the geopolitical NE is not north. The north is the rest of the NE and NW. Aboki territory. Also you talk about population of the north been far more than the south. lol. I laugh in Arabic. NE and NW even if you include Taraba and adamawa is still not as populated as the rest of the country. Even if you add the middle belt to the north, yes the population might be higher but it ain't by much. We all know that the NE and NW have inflated fake numbers that don't exist.
Secondly, in economic terms the north has always been dependent on the south since almagamation. The British joined the northern and southern protectorate together because the north was in debt and backward so they needed the southern balance of payment to support the north. In the first and second republics, every region produced and contributed to the centre. The south was never dependent on the north. infact, the southern regions were always richer than the north.
Today the north is like a parasite on the south and middlebelt. You guys always talk about the north feeding the country. First off the investment money the FG puts into agriculture in the north is gotten from southern resources like oil, manufacturing.. The south invests in your agriculture, you sell to us and we buy. You ain't doing us any favours. Whatever money northern states have to spent is mostly gotten from on the south. the FAAC allocation is mostly from southern oil and VAT. You are net gainers, we are net losers. Most northern states will not survive without handout from southern resources and VAT. Your states are built on resources generated in the south. Your GDPs is because of southern money. If Nigeria breaks, you become Niger republic.
You boast about having the richest billionaires. A viable country is known by the strength of it's middle class , not it's billionaires. The middle class in this country is more than 85 percent Southerners and middlebelt to lesser extent. Even in the top richest list, there are more southern billionaires than northern billionaires.
On government appointments, alot of the numbers you highlighted are statutory. Buharis appointment has been lobsided in favour of the NE and NW.
Dude let's face it , Nigeria is kinda reflection to the wider world. You can't give what you don't have. There is no single Muslim country in the world that is first world, technological and an economic leader. The poorest countries in Africa re Muslim. The poorest regions in countries that have mixed Christians and muslims are the Muslim regions . So it's no surprise you guys cannot compete hence you seek to bring the rest of the country down. You have succeeded because for most of this. country's history the north has ruled mostly through military dictatorship and have bled this country dry.I hear hausa people are the most populous tribe but yet the fulanis who aren't even as many as the ijaws keep ruling for the north and in a good number of the NW and NE states. It's either the hausa population figures is. fraud or the hausa re just dumb.
Finally, close to 10% of Nigeria's GDP is remittance from abroad and the people sending the money are mostly southerners and middlebeltans by more than 90%. You guys that don't contribute to it will still get a larger share of the VAT contribution from remittances. Yet these arewa people will open their mouth and talk nonsense. Leeches.

You lack common sense you dont even have the sense to understand my write up...you ended up writing trash full of lies and sentiment...anyway I dont blame you! You were brought up that way... brainwashed and programmed....


Chew on this...

VAT: This Jamboree Has To End.

With Nigeria’s scariest fault-line shaken by the brewing legal war over jurisdictional responsibility for collecting value-added tax (VAT), the reality of the long-avoided restructuring may finally be upon us. The debris already in the spotlight is the overlooked question of fiscal federalism, and we must thank Governor Nyesom Wike for the gathering storm.
Whatever the eventual outcome of the court case between Rivers State and the federal government, the wave has reached the slumbering policymakers in the North in a way it never did, and some of their reactions have been predictably embarrassing.

The South has had enough of spoon-feeding the North and the polarization that undercuts national politics in the past few years was powered by this disdain. If northern policymakers were paying attention to the countenance of their southern colleagues, and the indignity of being serially singled out as the stumbling block of Nigeria’s progress even by southern states that aren’t doing well, a roadmap for escaping this parasitism stereotype would’ve been long designed.

Despite the bad press and blame game, many northern states fare better than the very southern states quick to ridicule them and have demonstrated more capability in generating internal revenue. In its latest Annual State Viability Index (ASVI), the Economic Confidential developed the viability index of states based on each state’s Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) as a percentage of its Federal Accounts Allocation (FAA) for the year and the results were interesting.
It’s unsurprising that only two northern states are among the top 10 most viable states, with Kaduna generating N50 billion compared to FAA of N124 billion representing 40 percent, and Kwara generating N19 billion compared to FAA of N77 billion representing 25.4 percent.

What’s shocking is that even terrorist-ravaged states like Zamfara generated more internal revenues than most southern states. Zamfara State ranks 12th, ahead of Ebonyi 16, Abia 20, Imo 21 and, unbelievably, oil-rich Bayelsa 36!


The North is capable of functioning independently. The example of Kaduna overtaking Kano in that ranking of viable states is a theory easy to analyze.
Before oil rents distracted northern political elites, the Native Authority system had far-reaching tax-collecting structures and a flourishing agrarian economy servicing the needs of the region. What the North achieved in that system is unfortunately still the high-point of the region today. Without oil rents, they built Ahmadu Bello University, which is still the largest in sub-Saharan Africa and Ahmadu Bello Stadium, one of the best sports facilities then. They also set up New Nigerian Development Company, the largest black-owned conglomerate in Sub-Saharan Africa then.
The North of that agrarian era was an industrial hub, as the policymakers built new cities, textile factories, hospitals and distinguished institutions, one of which was the prestigious Kaduna Polytechnic, which was also the largest of its kind in Africa south of the Sahara then. Their overly spoon-fed successors, unfortunately, lack this ambition and the reason is this jamboree bankrolled by the South which, evidently, is not sustainable.

eas01:

You an olodo oo. The FAAC allocated to the Niger delta is gotten from resources in their region. What is the northern contribution to the federal purse? Tell me. Your GDP is a function of southern resources and VAT.
The Nigerian delta militants are fighting for the right to own their land and resources. The not fighting to own Kano or sokoto are they? Unlike your herders that are fighting for the right to destroy people's farms. Meschewwww. If NDDC wastes money, it's not your business. It is their resources from their land. The illegal gold exports from zamfara doesn't benefit the south but your northern elite. Your dirty agriculture depends on southern resources. The south are net losers in Nigeria and the arewa aboki north - NE and NW are net gainers.
You contribute nothing. Your agriculture depends on southern money for investment, we in the south and middlebelt now buy from you. It ain't free. If you choose not to sell to us we can buy else where and even grow our food.
You all are leeches.

VAT: This Jamboree Has To End.

With Nigeria’s scariest fault-line shaken by the brewing legal war over jurisdictional responsibility for collecting value-added tax (VAT), the reality of the long-avoided restructuring may finally be upon us. The debris already in the spotlight is the overlooked question of fiscal federalism, and we must thank Governor Nyesom Wike for the gathering storm.
Whatever the eventual outcome of the court case between Rivers State and the federal government, the wave has reached the slumbering policymakers in the North in a way it never did, and some of their reactions have been predictably embarrassing.

The South has had enough of spoon-feeding the North and the polarization that undercuts national politics in the past few years was powered by this disdain. If northern policymakers were paying attention to the countenance of their southern colleagues, and the indignity of being serially singled out as the stumbling block of Nigeria’s progress even by southern states that aren’t doing well, a roadmap for escaping this parasitism stereotype would’ve been long designed.

Despite the bad press and blame game, many northern states fare better than the very southern states quick to ridicule them and have demonstrated more capability in generating internal revenue. In its latest Annual State Viability Index (ASVI), the Economic Confidential developed the viability index of states based on each state’s Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) as a percentage of its Federal Accounts Allocation (FAA) for the year and the results were interesting.
It’s unsurprising that only two northern states are among the top 10 most viable states, with Kaduna generating N50 billion compared to FAA of N124 billion representing 40 percent, and Kwara generating N19 billion compared to FAA of N77 billion representing 25.4 percent.

What’s shocking is that even terrorist-ravaged states like Zamfara generated more internal revenues than most southern states. Zamfara State ranks 12th, ahead of Ebonyi 16, Abia 20, Imo 21 and, unbelievably, oil-rich Bayelsa 36!


The North is capable of functioning independently. The example of Kaduna overtaking Kano in that ranking of viable states is a theory easy to analyze.
Before oil rents distracted northern political elites, the Native Authority system had far-reaching tax-collecting structures and a flourishing agrarian economy servicing the needs of the region. What the North achieved in that system is unfortunately still the high-point of the region today. Without oil rents, they built Ahmadu Bello University, which is still the largest in sub-Saharan Africa and Ahmadu Bello Stadium, one of the best sports facilities then. They also set up New Nigerian Development Company, the largest black-owned conglomerate in Sub-Saharan Africa then.
The North of that agrarian era was an industrial hub, as the policymakers built new cities, textile factories, hospitals and distinguished institutions, one of which was the prestigious Kaduna Polytechnic, which was also the largest of its kind in Africa south of the Sahara then. Their overly spoon-fed successors, unfortunately, lack this ambition and the reason is this jamboree bankrolled by the South which, evidently, is not sustainable.

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Sanchez01:

I have been seeing your wretched handle post often concerning the VAT move. It must truly be killing Northern Nigeria right now. Know this, the VAT move is the forceful first step to regionalism and true federalism in this country, that is if at all the parasitic North finds a way to glue the country together and we still pretend to live as one.

That said, it is the height of foolishness to empower Hisbah to have a field day in the North and charge them to destroy alcohols, clubs and social joints whereas your region depends on alcohol proceeds from the South alongside our oil. No one cursed you people. Play religion and perish, that's your business. This forceful union will no longer favour a parasitic region with no known contribution to the country.

One after the other, the South will wrestle its resources from you people. If it does not benefit you guys any longer, you will tearfully request to have the country divided.

[/s]empty trash full of hate...

The problem is that you lack the sense and reasoning to understand my writings....

Half baked illiterate chew on this pls

VAT: This Jamboree Has To End.

With Nigeria’s scariest fault-line shaken by the brewing legal war over jurisdictional responsibility for collecting value-added tax (VAT), the reality of the long-avoided restructuring may finally be upon us. The debris already in the spotlight is the overlooked question of fiscal federalism, and we must thank Governor Nyesom Wike for the gathering storm.
Whatever the eventual outcome of the court case between Rivers State and the federal government, the wave has reached the slumbering policymakers in the North in a way it never did, and some of their reactions have been predictably embarrassing.

The South has had enough of spoon-feeding the North and the polarization that undercuts national politics in the past few years was powered by this disdain. If northern policymakers were paying attention to the countenance of their southern colleagues, and the indignity of being serially singled out as the stumbling block of Nigeria’s progress even by southern states that aren’t doing well, a roadmap for escaping this parasitism stereotype would’ve been long designed.

Despite the bad press and blame game, many northern states fare better than the very southern states quick to ridicule them and have demonstrated more capability in generating internal revenue. In its latest Annual State Viability Index (ASVI), the Economic Confidential developed the viability index of states based on each state’s Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) as a percentage of its Federal Accounts Allocation (FAA) for the year and the results were interesting.
It’s unsurprising that only two northern states are among the top 10 most viable states, with Kaduna generating N50 billion compared to FAA of N124 billion representing 40 percent, and Kwara generating N19 billion compared to FAA of N77 billion representing 25.4 percent.

What’s shocking is that even terrorist-ravaged states like Zamfara generated more internal revenues than most southern states. Zamfara State ranks 12th, ahead of Ebonyi 16, Abia 20, Imo 21 and, unbelievably, oil-rich Bayelsa 36!


The North is capable of functioning independently. The example of Kaduna overtaking Kano in that ranking of viable states is a theory easy to analyze.
Before oil rents distracted northern political elites, the Native Authority system had far-reaching tax-collecting structures and a flourishing agrarian economy servicing the needs of the region. What the North achieved in that system is unfortunately still the high-point of the region today. Without oil rents, they built Ahmadu Bello University, which is still the largest in sub-Saharan Africa and Ahmadu Bello Stadium, one of the best sports facilities then. They also set up New Nigerian Development Company, the largest black-owned conglomerate in Sub-Saharan Africa then.
The North of that agrarian era was an industrial hub, as the policymakers built new cities, textile factories, hospitals and distinguished institutions, one of which was the prestigious Kaduna Polytechnic, which was also the largest of its kind in Africa south of the Sahara then. Their overly spoon-fed successors, unfortunately, lack this ambition and the reason is this jamboree bankrolled by the South which, evidently, is not sustainable.

If the Niger Delta states & their governments, their drunk mentally lazy bandit governors, their insatiable & unrepentant greedy elders, politicians & militant leaders cornering everything meant for the people had utilized the 6 trillion naira NDDC funds, additional tens of trillions of naira from statutory allocations, 13% derivation allocations, ecological funds, Ministry of Niger Delta funds, royalties & rents etc in the past 20 years to build the economy & infrastructure of Niger Delta, they won't be today shamelessly moving in & out of courts in Nigeria over VAT from beer & Lagos will be nowhere near Delta, Rivers or Akwa Ibom in IGR.
Now, they are instigating a VAT war with FG to cover the monumental failure in delivering governance to their people & the mindless terrorism on the people of Niger Delta recently uncovered in NDDC.
If we the citizens of Niger Delta are not already doped silly by ignorant primitive contrived emotions these leeches feed us daily, we should by now be asking them questions!
We should be telling them to give account of the trillions they collected at least in the past 20 years first before talking about collecting VAT revenue.
We should be telling them to implement local government financial autonomy first before demanding for fiscal federalism.
We should be telling them to respect & not interfere in the independence of the state houses of assembly & state judiciaries which are the two organs of government empowered by the constitution to check the excesses & misappropriation of resources by the governors if we are to trust their demands for fiscal federalism.
But sadly, we are applauding the bandits called state governors & their rapacious elders, politicians & militant leaders accomplices raping us front & back as they lead us by the nose once again as always in another wild goose chase distraction from the real issues of our underdevelopment, stagnation & destitution in the midst of plenty in the Niger Delta.
A pathetic shame indeed!

If the Niger Delta states & their governments, their drunk mentally lazy bandit governors, their insatiable & unrepentant greedy elders, politicians & militant leaders cornering everything meant for the people had utilized the 6 trillion naira NDDC funds, additional tens of trillions of naira from statutory allocations, 13% derivation allocations, ecological funds, Ministry of Niger Delta funds, royalties & rents etc in the past 20 years to build the economy & infrastructure of Niger Delta, they won't be today shamelessly moving in & out of courts in Nigeria over VAT from beer & Lagos will be nowhere near Delta, Rivers or Akwa Ibom in IGR.
Now, they are instigating a VAT war with FG to cover the monumental failure in delivering governance to their people & the mindless terrorism on the people of Niger Delta recently uncovered in NDDC.
If we the citizens of Niger Delta are not already doped silly by ignorant primitive contrived emotions these leeches feed us daily, we should by now be asking them questions!
We should be telling them to give account of the trillions they collected at least in the past 20 years first before talking about collecting VAT revenue.
We should be telling them to implement local government financial autonomy first before demanding for fiscal federalism.
We should be telling them to respect & not interfere in the independence of the state houses of assembly & state judiciaries which are the two organs of government empowered by the constitution to check the excesses & misappropriation of resources by the governors if we are to trust their demands for fiscal federalism.
But sadly, we are applauding the bandits called state governors & their rapacious elders, politicians & militant leaders accomplices raping us front & back as they lead us by the nose once again as always in another wild goose chase distraction from the real issues of our underdevelopment, stagnation & destitution in the midst of plenty in the Niger Delta.
A pathetic shame indeed!

Clear cut Terrorists killing themselves, destroying their region and distablizin themselves


Nobody is intimidating the Igbos and relegating them to the background as 3rd-Class Citizens.

It is the domineering spirit & the Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder (EUPD) inherent in every Igbo that is responsible for your illusions & self-inflicted problems.

You are the real problem of Nigeria

Spoiling the image of the nation and giving it a bad name but your people peddle lies on the social media numerous Lies & Propaganda. Foolish Dubious & Criminally-Minded Lots!

It is okay to cheat and swindle people but whenever the consequences of your actions return to hunt you, you will begin to dish out lies & propaganda just to attract sympathy.

You go into crime, make little money and then start jumping up & down with your gra-gra & gri-gri complex, thereby attracting the attention of the Law Enforcement Authorities.

It is that same complex or disorder that made your people buy flight tickets to Dubai, UAE to go rob more than 10 Bureau De Change outlets in broad day light.

The same way Nnamdi Kanu placed an 100 Million Naira bounty on the head of a sitting Governor (Wike) for him to be killed.

Now that the vacuous bastard is in custody; If I were that Governor (Wike) and as vengeful as I am, what stops me from bribing some high-ranking DSS Operatives to poison him to death in detention just to get even?

I sincerely pray that you people get your Biafra but trust me, there won't be any great deal of difference between your utopian Nation & Somalia.

This is why we keep saying that majority of you people lack emotional intelligence and always do things with gra-gra & gri-gri.

You blame everybody for your woes except yourselves. Just like how iPob is blaming Wike for sponsoring the abduction & rendition of Lamidi Cownu from Kenya back to Nigeria, forgetting that you already declared him as your enemy by placing a bounty on his head.

You always act before you think and leap before you look. Anyways, that is his problem.

You will go and incite trouble and then start screaming blue-murder when the consequence of your actions boomerang; And that is when you will remember and start tagging CNN, BBC, ICC, USA, Donald Trump, Israel, & Amnesty International.

Nobody hates the Igbos. It's just a simple natural law of "reaping what you sow" that is in play.

You can't sow guava and expect to reap pineapple. Never!

Ancient wisdom teaches that Action begets Reaction, Cause begets Effects and Sequence begets Consequence.

You cannot be cursing & insulting every other ethnicity in Nigeria day and night, and expect all your hateful seeds not to germinate in them.

SimplyFacts:
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Are you tied to NL? Only a mumu would believe that responsible people don't use NL. The day I saw our MD going through NL headlines, I just weak.

Your MD is also like you...no wonder

Bonesbreaker:
all this bullshit you mention you forgert you know have NE,NC,and even NW so stop East has dash dash!! Is big lies from devilish mouth

Bro You are confused by the truth!

Next time dont just open your dirty mouth and insult the north.....You illiterates just sit down and open mouth and spit dusts because you have means to communicate.
The freedom of speech shouldn't be equally shared, it should be apportioned according to the level of intelligence, pls keep quiet if you are jobless send me your CV i wil help secure you a job...

Nairaland is filled with so many people like you whose senses aren't updated or even uploaded.

I will love to help you and get you a job

What you guys known for; kidnapping, drug trafficking, blood money, human trafficking, piracy, fake drugs, counterfeiting, Yahoo , local 419, fake pastors, terrorism (ESN), prostitution, drug addicts, thugs , baby factory operators......... Etc. Pls dont fall a victim be a good boy

Bonesbreaker:
that because 98%of police are North,90% of soldiers North, NNPC,President,Every aspect of Nigerian government is North all Federal Roads bad Reason North as of today fuel is sold at 260 naira reason North factor that's why that the reason and some group want to break out yet this low life North still insist after calling them dot(.) North and muslims are the major problem in Nigeria fix them and Nigeria will be great again

A major problem the South has is how it underestimates the North. Their minders have led a majority of them to believe that the northerner is an unschooled slowpoke who only progresses through connections. Despite northerners that became billionaires by dint of hard work, intellectuals that have pushed the frontiers of scholarship, leaders that have provided impeccable administrations to great applause and politicians that rose like the colossus to dominate their environments, the average southerner still gets bamboozled – and envious – by the way the northerner dictates what goes where.
But a pertinent question to ask is, why do people kick against federal character yet want a position zoned, rotated or surrendered to them? If they are as intelligent and educated as they think they are, then they should know that politics is all about bridge-building, consensus and give and take.
However, in their confusion, despite their belief in the superiority of their intelligence, they take Nnamdi Kanu and Sunday Igboho as heroes. Some even believe they are comparable to Sheikh Gumi. A Methodist Bishop ridiculously said that he will stand by Kanu as long as “northerners stand by Pantami and Gumi”. A known southern columnist, too, wrote on how Kanu and Igboho were arrested while Gumi “had a slap on the wrist.”
What they refuse to accept is the fact that Kanu is a terrorist in the class of Shekau. A fugitive from justice having jumped bail while standing trial in a court of competent jurisdiction. He instigated people to kill through electronic messages the way Shekau did. He calls for the Balkanisation of the country. Perhaps being a second-class British citizen, he sees Nigeria as a “zoo” and Nigerians as animals. His gullible followers, Nigerians through and through, accept being animals in a country that is a zoo.
Maybe because most of his followers are those frustrated with their lives, they find solace in living in utopia. They claim they are Jews. Laughable as it was, with no historical or biological evidence to support the phantasmagoric claim, the real Jews did a DNA test to confirm their Jewishness that it is false.

Bonesbreaker:
that because 98%of police are North,90% of soldiers North, NNPC,President,Every aspect of Nigerian government is North all Federal Roads bad Reason North as of today fuel is sold at 260 naira reason North factor that's why that the reason and some group want to break out yet this low life North still insist after calling them dot(.) North and muslims are the major problem in Nigeria fix them and Nigeria will be great again

Because the North are larger than you...their share must be greater than yours...or you expect to occupy all the spaces? Thats justice in your definition?


Lemme expose you once again lets see who really are the beneficiaries of Nigeria....

Number of Federal Civil Servants State by State
1: Abia 3579
2. Adamawa 1727
3. Akwa Ibom 4416
4. Anambra 3576
5. Bauchi 1172
6. Bayelsa 957
7. Benue 3951
8. Borno 1822
9. Cross River 2681
10. Delta 4419
11. Ebonyi 865
12. Edo 3890
13. Ekiti 2613
14. Enugu 2695
15. FCT 533
16. Gombe 1218
17. Imo 5825
18. Jigawa 675
19. Kaduna 3199
20. Kano 1545
21. Katsina 1237
22. Kebbi 875
23. Kogi 5186
24. Kwara 2537
25. Lagos 2180
26. Nasarawa 1452
27. Niger 2193
28. Ogun 4669
29. Ondo 3393
30. Osun 3321
31. Oyo 3244
32. Plateau 2542
33. Rivers 1675
34. Sokoto 732
35. Taraba 1112
36. Yobe 744
37. Zamfara 543
Not specified 518
TOTAL: 89,511
By Dr Joe Abah - DG, Bureau of Public Service
Reforms". (C): Johnson Andrew, this is the Analyzed data based on population figures of each state.

THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF PUBLIC SERVICE REFORMS, RELEASED STATISTICS OF EMPLOYMENTS INTO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE RAW FIGURES PER STATE ARE

(A). EMPLOYMENT INTO THE PUBLIC SERVICE
NE with a population of 19.0m has 7,793
NW with a population of 35.8m has 8,806
SE with a population of 16.4m has 16,540
NC with a population of 20.3m has 17,661
SS with a population of 21.0m has 18,038
SW with a population of 27.6m has 19,620

To appreciate this figures, it is necessary to find out how many employees are taken from every 1 million people in each of the geographical zones.

The result is:
1st. SE has 1,009 Employees per million
2nd. NC has 970 Employees per million
3rd. SS has 859 Employees per million
4th SW has 711 Employees per million
5th NE has 410 Employees per million
6th NW has 246 Employees per million

Here we can see that South Eastern Zone has over 1000 people engaged in the public service of Nigeria in every 1 million Igbo people, whereas only 246 people are engaged in North West!
Remember that this is the Zone of the President of Nigeria.

Curiously South West, the Zone of the Vice President is the least in Southern Nigeria with the employment of 711 people in a million.
It is pertinent to see the trend as regards Political Office holders. Probably, those that lost out in the Public Service, are compensated with Political offices. Let's perform sample surgical operation on the political employees.

(B . POLITICAL APPOINTMENT
We all have the statistics of political appointees of the current Buhari administration.
NW has 51political appointees from 7 states
NC has 47 political appointees from 6 states
NE has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SW has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SS has 45 political appointees from 6 States
SE has 41 political appointees from 5 states
These translate to:
1st. SE: 2.50 appointees in a million.
2nd. NE: 2.37 appointees in a million.
3rd. NC: 2.34 appointees in a million.
4th. SS: 2.14 appointees in a million.
5th. SW:1.63 appointees in a million.
6th. NW:1.42 appointees in a million.
Alternatively:
1st. SE: has 1 appointee in every 400,000
2nd. NE: has 1 appointee in every 422,000
3rd. NC: has 1 appointee in every 427,000
4th. SS: has 1 appointee in every 467,000
5th. SW: has 1 appointee in every 614,000
6th. NW: has 1 appointee in every 704,000

Once again topping the list of beneficiary is South East with one political appointee for every 400,000 people. As if it is an intentional act, NW, from where the President hails has the least of 1 political appointees for every 704, 000 people while the figure for Osinbajo's Zone is 614,000 and is the least in the South.

THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION OF "MARGINALIZATION" BEING PEDDLED BY THE IGBOS THAT ARE, IN FACT THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY IN NIGERIA. FIGURES DON'T LIE.

What makes me laugh is when i see some Yoruba crying for the Igbos when the latter talk about Marginalization. They should be crying for themselves.


Can you now see that the Muslims are the once cheated You hikack everything and they allow you because they are peaceful

But you dull empty brain person comes online to bash Muslims

IfIPerishIPeris:
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Quiet and Appreciate Good things.

The truth must be said....I am not here to flatter anyone!

Bonesbreaker:
lol am not ranting any thing you see one can not change no matter how smart you claim i asked you for proof your mentioning southern individual achievement which was done by themselves, you talk about some bullshit nonsense stuff which we know is lies You can mount your stupidity around yourself with no fact but the truth still states that the North government has never ever benefitted anyone in Nigeria even to North too since the inspection of independence that's why when Eastern says the want to leave i truely understand them because North is so backwards that they have eyes yet blind am not saying the southern governors are saint but when the head is messed up what do you expect the body at large

Why are you obsessed with the WOrd NORTH?? You've been crying and mentioning the name Lol What? What is wrong with you? This is what you can turn to when you start worshiping human being

Why are you always bitter the moment you hear north? Is the north responsible for your erosion ravaged region? Has Northerner govern your state before or your LGA or are Northerners your deceitful Reps and senators?