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Bidam:
Bro quit playing to the gallery and deviating, i just asked you a question from scripture not from my imagination. Let's forget about Nigeria issues for now and look at the blueprint from the NT. Look at what Paul is telling the Corinthians which applies to you as well.Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. 1 cor 12:1 NIV.
And the purpose of the thread is to correct your misinformed mind concerning prophecy too which is a gift that has not ceased in the body of Christ.

Hear Paul AGAIN. “Let two or three Prophets speak, and let the others judge.
30But if anything is revealed to another who sits by let the first
keep silent.” (1 Corinthians 14:29-30) Don't forget he encourages the Corinthians to desire the gift of prophecy which you despise because of the abuse in Nigeria in 1 cor 14:1.

Your friend shdemidemi talks about correction because of the carnality of the Corinthians but it was the same Paul that told the Thessalonians not to despise prophesying as you folks are doing here.(1 Thessalonians 5:20).

My bro.you are trying so hard to equate the prophetic ministry to merrly prophecy and thats misinformation.would you call Saul a prophet because he prophesy in the OT?
Prophecy is jus an aspect in the ministry of a prophet.a true prophet of the NT expounds the word of God,that is declaring the FUll GOSPEL of CHRIST to th Church.question is why would he be declaring the Gospel to thé body of Christ?.......its because the sole aim of the his ministry is for *RECOVERY* something that is lost in the begining.as it is in the OT,so it is in the NT.
Details ?maybe later.

Bidam:
Ok, do you agree that every believer is told to earnestly desire the gift of prophecy?

Gift of Prophecy?
is that what the Prophetic Ministry has been relegated to?
So any believer that says.....“i see,i saw,in my vision,the Lord said,in my dream......is now a prophet of God abi?lol.
My bro.mention one(just one)Prophet of God here in nigeria and lets discuss wholly the Prophetic Ministry.

Bidam:
But the OP did not say that na bro.. . The body of Christ is not limited to Nigeria.. Think!

Read thé OP again bro.
It was talking about * TODAY* not yestetday or 2000 years ago.

RIP.

Bidam:
Agabus is a new testament prophet na.. . Let's stick to that as a new testament yardstick for judging others.

Lol'bro.
Are u afraid to name one NT prophet here in nigeria?

Bidam:
Agabus is one of them. Do you want more?

Lol,i meant here in nigeria.

Bidam:
Yes, as long as they don't run greedily after the error of balaam for profit and stay in line with scriptures they are genuine.

Show me a prophet that dont run greedily after the errors of balaam.

Thé Church is thé Spirt of God in the life of every believer.

Bidam:
Can you give reasons, why you came about such conclusions?

2 Peter 2:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 Which have forsaken the right way,
and are gone astray, following the
way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who
loved the wages of unrighteousness;

Jude 1:11 New King James Version
(NKJV)
11 Woe to them! For they have gone
in the way of Cain, have run greedily
in the error of Balaam for profit, and
perished in the rebellion of Korah.
Do you know any so called prophet of God thats innocent of the above versés?

Bidam:
Can you give reasons, why you came about such conclusions?

Busy now bro,later tinz.

For where two or three are gathered
in my name, there am I among
them.”.Mat:18:20.
so when you and your room mate/s are gathered in His name thats CHURCH SERVICE!!
You dont even need to leave your room to be in Service.

I dont believe we have true prophets of God these days.all i have seen and heard about are those in same likeness as Balaam.

Trailblazer1:
If you cannot draw the line between Godliness and worldliness- then you life is at risk.
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 corinthians 6:15-16
Lukewarmness sets in whenever a Christian can no longer distinguish and clearly define the "world"
1 John 2:15-17 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
May Gods grace keep us all rapturable.

Hmmm, good.
It mainly cuts across believers Idolizing there fellow brothers/sisters as MOG's.

How long will you go limping
between two different opinions? If the
Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal,
then follow him. (1 Kings 18:21
ESV)/
That word was never addressed to the
unsaved. It was never intended
for them. It is only rarely that the
unsaved are in the position of
two opinions. More often than not
they are of no opinion. This is what
the prophet really said to the people:
"How long limp ye from one side
to another?" He viewed them as lame,
and lamed by uncertainty, lamed
by indecision, paralyzed by an
unsettled issue. Oh, how an unsettled
issue does paralyze the life. Have a
controversy with the Lord, an
unsettled issue with the Lord, and
your whole life is lamed, is
paralyzed; you are limping first one
way and then the other; there is
no sense of stability about your way.
So the prophet called for the issue to
be settled. How long limp ye
from one side to the other? Settle this
issue one way or the other. If
Jehovah be God, let Him have His
place, His full rights; settle it
once and for all. If Baal is god, well
then let us be settled. But
until that is done you are crippled, you
are paralyzed, and the whole
secret of your being in that weak,
indefinite, unstable, uncertain
place is that God is not having His full
rights; there is a
dividedness in your life, a dividedness
in your own soul, because
other interests and considerations are
in view. The dividedness may be
in your home life, where you have
power, authority and influence, and
you are not standing one hundred
percent for the Lord's interests
there. It may be working in other
directions, but wherever it is
present the result is that deep down in
your being you are not
satisfied, you are not at rest. You may
be busy, you may be occupied,
you may be rushing hither and thither
in the Lord's name, but you know
that deep down there is a lack, an
uncertainty, an unsettled state;
your spiritual life is limited and
paralyzed. It will always be so
until the issue is settled and God has
His place in fullness in every
part and
relationship of your life. It is a
question of zeal for the
Lord, jealousy for the Lord.

The disciples came to Him and asked,
“Do You realize You offended
the Pharisees by what You just said?”
Jesus replied, “Every plant
not planted by My heavenly Father will
be uprooted.” (Matthew
15:12,13 NLT)/
Organized Christianity as it is today
cannot understand anything that
is not organized, that is not
advertised, that is not run. It must
have names that carry weight, that
mean influence. If you can get
people with some title, you are going
to have the guarantee of success
for your Christian enterprise. And so
the letters and the titles
strung on are a necessary requisite for
the success of the Lord's
work. You must write it up in the
press, you must give a report of it,
you must be able to make some kind
of return that people can read, and
say, "This is a successful thing." If you
cannot do that, the whole
thing is doomed to failure. They say,
"You must advertise, you must
have publicity, you must organize, you
must bring in all these things
to support it, to carry it on." If you did
none of those; if you were
never heard of in the press; if you
never had a report; if you never
had any names; if there was nothing
at all that came out in a public
way for people to take account of,
what is the verdict of organized
Christianity? "Nothing is being done.
You are doing nothing. It is
a-hole-in-a-corner sort of thing." Is
that true? What must we say
about that? There was a striking
absence of all that in the beginning,
and a marvelous manifestation of
power, of progress, of effectiveness,
so that nothing could stand in the way.
We must only conclude, we are
driven to this extremity, that the Lord
can do His own work. Evidently
the risen Lord is able to carry on His
own work; the Holy Ghost knows
how to manage things. What a
surprising discovery! Forgive my irony.
I
say, this is that upon which Hebrews
12:26-28 is fixed. “I will
shake the earth and the heavens”; that
which can be shaken will be
shaken; that which cannot be shaken
will remain; and what is that? It
is what God has done. “Whatsoever
God doeth, it shall be for
ever.” What God does is done in a
spiritual way; it is spiritual, it
is heavenly, it is eternal.
That may leave you perhaps in a
vague, perplexed position, not
knowing
where you are, but I have no doubt
about the truth of the message. If
you do not feel you can accept it; if
you disagree; if you revolt; if
you feel it cuts clean across all your
training, all your acceptance;
if you feel that it runs counter to all
that you know, all I ask of
you is honesty with God. I ask you to
come and ask Him to open to you
the meaning of the letter to the
Hebrews, why it was written, what its
significance is, why God has preserved
it, what its application is
now. Have honest dealings with the
Lord. Please do not go away hot in
spirit, antagonistic; do not lay this at
the door of any man. At least
give God a chance.... May the Lord give
us His own interpretation,
give us honesty of heart, and show us
His meaning in having brought us
to this consideration.

If hes genuine n honest let him project a younger guy for the president.person like Tambuwa.
Am tired of all this old recycling stuf.
Wont vote pdp,though.

The Immaculate Conception is a big scam period!
Adam and our Lord Jesus Christ are the only pple created/born sinless

Bidam:
Italo, you still havent changed.

Can an Ethiopian change his skin or a
leopard its spots?...Jere.13:23

Nice one OP

If you have any encouragement from
being united with Christ, if any
comfort from His love, if any
fellowship with the Spirit, if any
tenderness and compassion, then
make my joy complete by being
like-minded, having the same love,
being one in spirit and purpose.
(Philippians 2:1,2 NIV)/
The fellowship of the /Spirit/ is the
spirit of fellowship: but,
again, it is positive. Fellowship is not a
passive thing: it never can
be a passive thing, because all the
hosts of hell are out against it.
If there is one thing that hell is
against, it is the fellowship of
the Holy Spirit, the fellowship of the
people of God. Unceasingly, by
any and every means, those evil
powers will seek to destroy that
fellowship, because that fellowship
spells their final undoing.
Therefore fellowship can never be a
neutral, passive kind of thing.
You have got to fight for it, you have
got to stand for it, you have
got to be positive about this. Let some
rift go on, and just see the
havoc that delay over putting that right
will work! If you have the
Spirit - and of course I am addressing
those who are supposed to have
the Spirit - you should know that, if
you are out of joint with
another member of the Body of Christ
to which you belong, it is, as it
is with a dislocation in the natural
physical body: there is an ache,
a perpetual ache....
By that inflammation and ache the
Holy Spirit is giving a positive
witness against this thing. But if you
go on long enough, the Holy
Spirit will withdraw and leave you to it,
just because He is positive.
He will not brook persistent negatives
on these things; He just will
not have it. He is going on and saying:
"All right, if you are
determined to stay there, you can do
so. I am going on." And there
arises a very, very serious situation.
That is, of course, grim and
terrible. But it all gathers round this
truth that the Holy Spirit is
positive on the matter of fellowship....
We must challenge our hearts
about this. The Holy Spirit, /normally/,
is always positive - I could
almost say
aggressive. He is never negative, He is
never neutral. If
He has to pause, it means that He is
waiting for something; for it is
not His nature to do that - He would
go on. May the Lord fill us with
the mighty energy of His Spirit in Jesus name.

Nice one OP.
Whenever an atom of Truth is released/expressed,Liberty is the result.

Lol,
Some folks will never learn.
Christainity has nothing to do with
commercialization.

Long ago, at many times and in many
ways, God spoke to our fathers by
the prophets, but in these last days
He has spoken to us by His Son.
(Hebrews 1:1,2 ESV)/
It says that in times past God spoke "in
many ways," not only in
different portions, but in different
manners. It would take too long
for us to go back to the Old Testament
to see all the manners in which
God spoke. He spoke by a thousand
different means: sometimes by words
and sometimes by acts. The manners
were indeed "diverse." However, the
statement here is that at the end He
speaks in one way, one
all-inclusive way, and that is in His Son.
God's Son is His one
inclusive way of speaking at the end.
On the one side, no one is going
to get anything from God apart from
Jesus Christ. God will absolutely
refuse to speak other than in His Son.
If you want to know what God
wants to say to you, you have to come
to His Son. On the other side,
in Jesus Christ we have all that God
ever wants to say....
Yes, we have far more of God's
speaking in His Son than we have yet
come to understand. We have nothing
apart from Jesus Christ, and we
/need /nothing apart from* *Him.
You can read everything that has ever
been written on Christian doctrine
and still be the same man or woman.
God's ways are very practical, and He
teaches us by experience. That
experience is sometimes very difficult
and is called here "the
training of sons." May the Lord Jesus
just impress our hearts again
with these things! God is still speaking
in His Son, and His speaking
is in order to get companions of His
Son. Companions of this heavenly
calling and of Christ will go into the
hard school and have to learn
many hard lessons, but in learning
them they will come to understand
how great is their inheritance in the
Lord Jesus.

shdemidemi: Very well bro...
May The Lord continue to keep, guide and guard us. Thanks

Amen bro.
Cheers!

Lolz ;DLolz

shdemidemi: kudos!

Thanks bro.
How u dey?

All who have entered into God's rest
have rested from their labors,
just as God did after creating the
world. (Hebrews 4:10 NLT)/
Christ is God's Sabbath. Christ is our
Sabbath. When we enter by faith
into Christ's righteousness, we enter
into God's rest. It is a
tremendous power.... The Lord says,
in quite simple language, "If only
you will trust Me, and trust My
provision, and stop worrying, stop
fretting, stop being anxious; if you will
but believe Me, I have the
ground upon which I could meet all
your need; I am no longer without
ground. There was a time when I had
not the ground upon which to do
anything with you, and for you, but
now you are on the ground of
Christ, the ground which I have
provided; if only you will trust Me,
if only you will rest in Me to bring you
through, you will be saved
from so much of this weakness, and
fret, and anxiety!" Worry is a
destroying thing. At the back of a lot
that we suffer in body, and in
mind, there is so often a secret,
hidden restlessness, something deep
down in our subconscious being of a
fret, an anxiety, something that
is not rest. It takes many forms.
Sometimes over a concern of the
Lord's we feel that, unless we do it, it
will never be done. We feel
that if we are not up and at it, then
the whole thing will go to
pieces; so much depends upon us.
No one will think that this is the call
for passivity, for abandon of
concern for the things of the Lord; but
it is possible for us to have
the things of the Lord on our hearts
and yet not to have faith in God
about them. There are hidden secrets
to a great deal of our weakness
and defeat, and unnecessary
suffering. They are the hidden things
of
something which is other than just
restful faith in God. There are
some people who need to take things
to heart a little more than they
do, but for many the trouble is
perhaps of the other kind. They are
thinking that they have to run God's
universe for Him; they must look
after things or else they will never be
looked after! But to observe
the Sabbath (no one will take that literally as meaning the
observance
of a particular day of the week), to
recognize Christ as God's Rest
through righteousness, to observe /
that/, to keep /that/ Sabbath, is
Life which conquers death, because it
is righteousness which cannot be
destroyed.

Dragonking: I doubt if the guy will ever be prosecuted for his actions..It is even shameful that fashola and GEJ went to even greet him instead of holding him guilty of breach of law and mass manslaughter.

All politics my brother.
My grievance is, hes trying to mix what happened with our Salvation.thats an affront to the Cross.

We thank and praise God that He can
save us to such an extent that we can
overcome the demand of the law of
sin. as long as you hold
onto God's Word, everything will be
all right. God says that the law of the
Spirit of life has freed me in Christ
Jesus from the law of sin and of
death. I have been freed from the law
of sin and of death. From now on, I
am a freed man. However, after you
have believed this way, the law of sin may
appear to still be there. You may ask
yourself, "In the meeting I believed
that I am freed from the law of sin
and of death. Why does it seem to still
be there?" At such times Satan will
come and accuse you, saying, "What
difference has believing made to you?
When you did not believe, you were
like this. Now that you believe, you are
still like this." At such times your faith
is being tested. If you ignore your
feelings and the accusations at such
times, you will overcome. You cannot
keep yourself by being more cautious
or alert. God's word will keep you.
What God says counts. When the first
temptation comes and you stand fast,
you have overcome. God has to test
your faith to see if it is real, and you
also have to test if the salvation in
God's Word is real. If the faith is not
real, you will not receive God's
blessing. But if we believe and say to
God, "I hold onto Your Word. What
You say counts. For this reason, I
believe that I am freed from the law
of sin and of death." When God
removes the veil, you will see what
facts have been accomplished in
Christ. Please remember that your
eyes have to be set on God and not
on yourselves. The Bible has never
asked you to look at yourselves or to
look at your experience. The righteous
live by faith. We need faith to be
saved, and we need faith to
overcome. We have to glorify God at
the time of temptations. Satan will say,
"After all the believing, you are still the
same." You have to say, "After all that
you have done, I still believe." Satan
will say, "God's Word may not be
true." You have to say, "God's Word is
true, and only the devil is a liar."...........

The dude should be arrested and his so called church close down.
Guy is a disgrace to the body of Christ

Gravity is a law, but if you hold a book
with your hand, the power of the
hand overcomes the law of gravity. It
does not mean that the law of gravity
is removed; it merely means that
another law has overcome it. In the
same principle, the law of the Spirit of
life frees me from the law of sin and
of death. The law of sin and of death
has not been annulled, but another
law prevents me from being ensnared
by the law of sin and of death.
Consequently, I do not feel that there
is a law of sin and of death. Suppose
the government has a law that forbids
robbery. If I never have the inclination
to be a robber, the law has nothing to
do with me. It does not mean that
there is no such a law; it merely
means that I have never wanted to be
a robber; therefore, I never feel the
existence of the law.
Sin is an outward act, while a law is
an inward demand. If a man
overcomes sin, he has only overcome
isolated acts. If he overcomes the law
of sin, he has overcome the demand
of the law of sin.
God
delivers man first from within so that
man will not be bound by the inward
law. After this, there will
spontaneously be good conduct
without.
God frees us from the law of sin and
of death; He does not make the law of
sin and of death depart from us.
Suppose that I do not want the book in my hands
to fall on the ground. I do not have to
exert all of my strength to remove the
force of gravity. All I have to do is to
hold this book. The law of gravity may
still be there, but the gripping force in
my hand has overcome it. Although
the law of gravity is still there, it has
been made of no effect. God's way of
salvation is not to remove the fiery
serpents, but to set up the bronze
serpent (John 3:14)............

Formerly, when we
encountered the same temptations,
we produced the same results. But
we do not have to have the same
results now. This is the difference
between having the law of the Spirit
and not having the law of the Spirit.
Apart from this, there is no victory.
Romans 8:2 says, "For the law of the
Spirit of life has freed me in Christ
Jesus from the law of sin and of
death." Where are we freed from the
law of sin and of death? We are freed
in Christ Jesus. I have to say
"Hallelujah! All is well in Christ Jesus."
The Bible does not say that in Christ
we will be condemned, nor does it
say that in Christ we will sin. It says
that in Christ there is no more
condemnation, and in Him we are
free.........