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Dux01: pls i want you to answer this question.don't get angry.was mary a sinner like us that needed to be forgiven or she was sinless like Jesus.

and my spirit rejoices in God my
Savior..Luke 1:47.
If She's sinless why would she need a Savior?

In the Old Testament, the most crucial
miracle is the miracle of Jonah, which
refers to the Lord Jesus' resurrection
from the dead.
Some have misinterpreted this
miracle. They say that the miracle of
Jonah being in the belly of the great
fish for three days and three nights
typifies the Lord being in the earth for
three days and three nights. However,
being dead and buried in the earth
for three days and three nights is not
a miracle because it is very common
to be buried in the earth after death.
It is also quite possible for a person
to jump into the sea and be devoured
by a big fish. It is not a miracle to be
in the belly of a big fish for three days
and three nights. It is not even a
miracle to be in the belly of a big fish
for fifty days and fifty nights. But being
in the belly of a fish for three days
and three nights and then coming out
of it is a miracle. For Christ to be in
the grave for three days and three
nights is not a miracle. His
resurrection from the grave after
three days and three nights is the
miracle. Death is not a miracle, but
resurrection is a miracle.
Jonah had made up his mind and
would not have returned if he had
not suffered a calamity. He was very
racially prejudiced. God commanded
him to go to Nineveh, but he went his
own way to Tarshish. Although he did
not obey God, God did not let him go.
He sent a great wind into the sea, and
Jonah's ship was on the verge of
being destroyed. Eventually, Jonah
realized that he was the cause of the
calamity. Finally, he asked the people
on the ship to cast him into the sea,
and the storm subsided. God
prepared a great fish to swallow
Jonah, and he remained in the belly of
this fish three days and three nights.
When God commanded the fish to
vomit Jonah out upon the dry land,
Jonah obeyed God's command to go
to Nineveh and preach the gospel.
Therefore, if you want to have peace
within, you have to cast this man,
Jonah, into the sea.
Jonah was a man who rebelled and
escaped the will of God. He was cast
into the sea because of his own sins.
Our Lord, however, was crucified on
the cross on behalf of our sins. When
Jonah was cast into the sea,
everything became peaceful. When
the Lord died, everything was also at
peace—man was reconciled with God.
Whenever we are willing to accept the
position the Lord gives to us,
everything will be at peace. Jonah had
to be cast into the sea, the Lord Jesus
had to die, and we too must die and
partake of the Lord's death.
Burial is typified by Jonah being cast
into the sea and swallowed in the
belly of the big fish. The unique
meaning of burial is keeping the dead
out of our sight. After Abraham's wife
Sarah died, he spoke to the sons of
Heth, saying, "Give me a possession of
a buryingplace with you, that I may
bury my dead out of my sight" (Gen.
23:4). Our baptism is to confess that
the Lord Jesus' death is real and that
our death with Him is also real. We
have both died and been buried
together with Him. Resurrection is
typified by the fish vomiting out Jonah
upon the dry land. The Lord Jesus
has been raised from the grave, and
we have been raised together with
Him. The Lord Jesus' resurrection is
the central point of this miracle.
Resurrection is not only an objective
fact but also a subjective experience.
Before Jonah was cast into the sea, he
would rather have died than go to
Nineveh. Jonah was not ready to go to
Nineveh until the big fish vomited him
out upon the dry land. This
fundamental change in him was the
work of resurrection. After we believe
in the Lord and have the experience
of resurrection, we are willing to do
what we previously were very
unwilling to do. We previously failed
constantly in many things and were
unable to overcome. But once we
received the resurrection life, we
underwent a fundamental change.

F.P. MOD. Pls.

For he chose us in him before the
creation of the world to be holy and
blameless in his sight. In Love..eph.1:4.
My Church is older then the world itself.
lol.
Try n see if u can comprehend that simple verse.but,i seriously doubt ur comprehensive abilities towards it.

Your love for one another will prove
to the world that you are My
disciples. (John 13:35 NLT)

Love - not the presence of a lot of
understanding and teaching and
truth, and not the absence of all sorts
of things - is the governing
matter with the Lord. It is not that He
Himself in His heart accepts
the wrong things, but He sees through
them, He sees differently from
ourselves.... You can see there is no
hope of building up unless there
is love - and love for all men. You and
I ought to be greatly
concerned with this matter of building
up. Oh, God only knows how much
of spiritual increase and building is
needed! It is a paralyzing
situation that faces us if we look at our
own limitations. I am sure
nothing is going to be done unless we
have a very large heart to look
over and in and through and beyond,
refusing to be held by the thing
that is glaring at us, striking us and
hurting us, and reaching
through to that which is true in the
heart. It is love that builds.
Moreover, it makes differences in
those who exercise it, it brings
them into rest. Truth alone may bring
a strained look into the face
and eyes. Love ought to bring into the
countenance some suggestion of
quiet strength and restful
confidence....
Well, let us sit down in the armchair of
His love and be at rest, and
then get to work. You cannot work
unless you have a background rest,
and rest does not spring firstly from
truth. It comes from love, God's
love. Whatever else He gives us and
adds to us, may the Lord make us a
people who are characterized
supremely by this love for one
another
and forall men.

The apostles were witnesses of the
resurrection of Jesus (Acts 1:22). The
book of Acts is full of testimonies of
the Lord Jesus' resurrection. Death is
merely a process; whereas,
resurrection is the fulfillment.
Therefore, whenever the Bible
mentions the Lord's death, His
resurrection is also mentioned. The
Lord frequently told the disciples that
He was going to be killed. But He did
not stop there; He always went on to
say that He was going to be raised on
the third day. Resurrection is the
conclusion of death. Only in
resurrection can the work of death be
accomplished. The Lord Jesus died for
our sins on the cross. How do we
know that He accomplished what He
intended to accomplish? How do we
know that God accepted what He
accomplished? We know because He
was resurrected from the dead. This
can be likened to a criminal who is
sentenced to a certain term of
imprisonment. How do we know that
his term is fulfilled? We know because
he is released from jail. Resurrection
concludes death. Without death, there
is no resurrection. With resurrection,
death passes away. God has
"furnished proof to all by raising Him
from the dead" (17:31). The Lord
wants us to believe in His resurrection.
We cannot be saved by only believing
in the Lord Jesus' death. We must also
believe that the Lord Jesus has risen
from the dead before we can be
saved. Romans 10:9 says, "If
you...believe in your heart that God
has raised Him from the dead, you
will be saved."
Resurrection is an act of God. "And
the Author of life you killed, whom
God has raised from the dead" (Acts
3:15). Man had only seen death. If the
Lord had not been raised, everyone
would have thought that only an
ordinary man had been killed. But
God raised the Lord Jesus from the
dead in order to show them that "it
was not possible for Him to be held
by it" (2:24). He was the One whom
"God has exalted to His right hand as
Leader and Savior, to give repentance
to Israel and forgiveness of
sins" (5:31). "This is the One who was
designated by God to be the Judge of
the living and the dead...that through
His name everyone who believes into
Him will receive forgiveness of
sins" (10:42-43).
Believing in the resurrection is beyond
man's ability. Without the touch of the
Holy Spirit, man is not able to believe
that the Lord Jesus resurrected from
the dead. Just by saying, in a light way,
that one believes is of no
consequence. Without the work of the
Holy Spirit, it is impossible for man to
believe from the depth of his being.
"For by grace you have been saved
through faith, and this not of
yourselves; it is the gift of God" (Eph.
2:. Surely salvation is the work of
God. In the power of the Holy Spirit,
the apostles bore witness to the Lord
Jesus' resurrection. "And they were all
filled with the Holy Spirit...And with
great power the apostles gave
testimony of the resurrection of the
Lord Jesus" (Acts 4:31, 33).
The work of redemption was
accomplished by the death of Christ.
His death is the basis of our salvation.
However, we cannot believe only in
the death of Christ; we must also
believe in His resurrection.

Candour: "Christianity started in Jerusalem as a movement.....It got to Rome and became an institution..... It spread round Europe and became a culture....it got to America and became an industry; a very big industry.....Rome, Europe and America exported their different versions to Africa and it became a hotbed of confusion....but Christ is coming back for a movement"

May God help us

My bro.the movement has started already.For God is calling forth
His Beloved children to stand for the
Church and fullfill His Enternal
purpose.
His mercy and Grace will abide in His Beloved continually in these
generation.
His beloved will continue to be as selfless as Paul the
apostle.
They will reject ecclesiastical favours.
They will say nothing that will draw
men to themselves but,only that which
will move men to God.
They will unstop the ears of millions
who are deaf.
Their cries will be a voice these
century have not heard because they
have seen a vision no man in these
century have seen.
There FATHER,who,s our FATHER,LORD JESUS has already sent the Spirit of movement 2000years ago to lead us from these wilderness
of crass materialism,where
enlightened men,totally blind
Spiritually are leading some to an ever
nearing destruction.
May the Spirit of the movement never depart from us in Jesus name.

PastorKun: Is your Oga's adulterous ways also a demonic disease?

Loool!!
Bros,i beg u eh free dem.

This section also shows us two
pictures. One picture is that through
the body of Christ, we are dead to the
law and have completely broken away
from it. On the day the Lord died, we
died also. Therefore, we can say to
the law, "I am not under the law." The
other picture is that now we can
remarry. At one time the flesh was our
master, but now we can remarry.
Now we belong to the Christ who has
resurrected from the dead, and we
can bear fruit to God. Therefore, today
no Christian is under the law.
If someone says, "We should keep the
law; we should keep the Sabbath," we
should realize that if we attempt to
keep one commandment of the law,
we are saying that Christ did not die
for us. We are overthrowing the work
of Christ. Compare Romans 6:14 with
3:19. Romans 6:14 says, "For sin will
not lord it over you, for you are not
under the law but under grace." This
says that the believers are not under
the law. Romans 3:19 says, "Now we
know that whatever things the law
says, it speaks to those who are under
the law, that every mouth may be
stopped and all the world may fall
under the judgment of God." This says
that the law speaks to those who are
under the law. Since we are not
under the law, the words in the law
are not directed toward us.
Why did Paul write Galatians after he
had already written Romans? The
book of Romans tells us that sinners
cannot be justified by keeping the law.
Galatians tells us that saints cannot be
sanctified by keeping the law. Sinners
are not saved by doing good. But this
is not all; saints cannot be sanctified
by doing good. Just as we began
through grace, we must be perfected
through grace. We cannot be justified
through faith and then try to become
holy by keeping the law. Justification is
by the Holy Spirit, and sanctification is
also by the Holy Spirit. The way of
entry is the way of completion. God
only works according to one principle.
Why can wool not be woven together
with linen? (Deut. 22:11). Wool comes
from the shedding of blood, while
linen comes from man's planting.
What is done by God is God's work;
what is done by man is man's work.
God will not mix His work with man's
work.
What does "not under the law"
mean? "Not under the law" does not
mean lawlessness or ungodliness. The
Bible says, "For sin will not lord it over
you, for you are not under the law
but under grace" (Rom. 6:14). We are
not under the law because we are
under grace. Since we are under
grace, sin cannot lord it over us. We
should pay attention to this verse. Sin
cannot have dominion over whoever
is not under the law. However, we
cannot be uninhibited to do anything
we want to.
What does it mean to be "under
grace"? Let us read Romans 11:6: "But
if by grace, it is no longer out of
works; otherwise grace is no longer
grace." "Under grace" means we do
not have to depend on our own
doing. What does it mean to be
"under the law"? It means we do it by
ourselves. Yet the more we try to do
good, the more we cannot do it.
Being under grace is having the Lord
Jesus do it, while being under the law
is doing it ourselves. To be under
grace is for God to operate within us
until sin can no longer be our master.
To be under the law is for sin to lord
it over us because we cannot
overcome sin. If we are under grace,
we have the grace of God working
within us. Can sin compete with the
grace of God? Of course not.
The Lord who died on the cross for us
is living in us. The same One who
bore our sins on the cross is now in
us causing us to overcome sin. The
law was but a command of God, but
grace is God's power. The law
commands us to do something, but
grace empowers us to do it. Not being
under the law, but being under grace,
means that the resurrected Christ is
living in us and enabling us to
overcome.
Christ is the end of the law because
He has satisfied all the requirements
that the law has on man.
First, Christ ended the law in His living.
For the moment, we will not mention
the Lord Jesus as God but consider
Him only as a man. In the whole
world, the Lord Jesus is the only man
who has ever completely followed the
law. There were none before Him nor
any after Him who did this. He has
such a qualification. He is the end of
the law.
Second, Christ's death ended the law.
The ultimate, consummate
requirement of the law is nothing
other than death. Suppose a person
breaks the law of the nation. He
deserves death and is executed. Once
this person is executed, the law of the
land can no longer require anything
more. The requirement of the law
extends only up to death. Once a man
is dead, everything is settled. The law
says that those who do not keep the
law have to die. The Lord Jesus died
and ended the law.
The end means the final point. Once it
is the end, what more can you add?
What more needs to be done?
Therefore, every Christian can thank
and praise God that Christ has ended
the Law.

Romans 3:31 says, "Do we then make
the law of no effect through faith?
Absolutely not! Rather, we establish
the law." This is Paul's conclusion.
Prior to this he said, "For we account
that a man is justified by faith apart
from the works of the law" (v. 28).
Since this is the case, someone may
have raised the question: "Is not the
law made void by faith?" Therefore,
Paul answered, "Absolutely not!" The
phrase "Absolutely not!" is a Greek
idiom. It is the same as "Heaven
forbid!" . Paul meant that
heaven would not agree with you
saying that the law was abolished by
faith.
In the first three chapters of Romans,
Paul shows that the Gentiles, whom
God had not chosen, were sinners,
and the Jews, whom God had chosen,
were also sinners. Those who served
God and had the law of God were
also sinners. No one can be justified
by keeping the law. Therefore, Paul
says, "Because out of the works of the
law no flesh shall be justified before
Him; for through the law is the clear
knowledge of sin" (3:20).
"But now, apart from the law, the
righteousness of God has been
manifested, witness being borne to it
by the Law and the Prophets" (3:21).
Praise and thank God for "but now."
Now there is a way of salvation.
"Whom God set forth as a propitiation
place through faith in His blood, for
the demonstrating of His
righteousness, in that in His
forbearance God passed over the sins
that had previously occurred, with a
view to the demonstrating of His
righteousness in the present time, so
that He might be righteous and the
One who justifies him who is of the
faith of Jesus" (3:25-26). God
exercised forbearance toward those in
the Old Testament, and He justifies
those in this age. In the Old
Testament age the Lord had not died,
and sin had not been removed.
Therefore, God forbore man. But
today God justifies rather than
forbears. To justify is not only to
forgive a man or reckon him to be
without sins but, even more, to
pronounce him righteous. God gives
us this righteousness in Christ Jesus.
We can now receive this
righteousness because Christ died
and resurrected. Therefore, Paul said,
"For we account that a man is justified
by faith apart from the works of the
law" (3:28). Paul was afraid someone
might think that since man was
justified through faith, the law would
be abolished through faith. This is
why he immediately said, "Absolutely
not!" (3:31). Even heaven forbids man
to say that.
How, then, do we establish the law
through faith? The law has only two
requirements: (1) the law commands
man to do good, and (2) the law
punishes those who do not do good.
The law requires one of these two. If
you do not keep the law, you will be
punished by the law. If you do not
follow the law and establish it, you will
be punished by the law in order to
establish it. Besides the Lord, no other
person can keep the law; even Moses
the lawgiver did not keep the law
completely. The law requires death for
those who do not keep the law. We
can say, "I did not keep the law; I
have sinned; I have died already. In
Christ, I have received the judgment of
the law and the curse of the law.
Therefore, I did not break the law;
rather, I established it through faith."
Although we cannot establish the law
by keeping it and deserve to die,
praise and thank God that we have
died in Christ! It is of God that we are
in Christ Jesus (1 Cor. 1:30). It is God
who put us into Christ. When Christ
died, we also died in His death.
Therefore, faith does not make the
law void; rather, it establishes the law.
Why are the believers not under the
law? The believers are not under the
law because, on the one hand, they
are already dead, and on the other
hand, they are resurrected. We can
prove this by Romans 7:1-6. Paul uses
a parable of a woman and her
husband. We need to note what "the
husband" refers to in this section.
Some say "the husband" refers to the
law. Others say "the husband" refers
to our flesh. Each group has its own
opinions and reasons. However, if we
read it carefully, we will see that both
implications are actually here. In
Romans 7:2, the husband is the law,
yet the husband is different from the
law. Therefore, "the husband" in this
section has two meanings. One
meaning refers to the law, and the
other meaning refers to the flesh. If
the husband referred only to the law,
then the phrase "if the husband dies"
would mean that law is dead. But
how can the law die? Once we are
clear about this point, we can
conclude that "the husband" in this
section refers to the flesh and also to
the law.
Prior to believing in the Lord,
everyone is bound by the law. How
can one break away from it? It can
only be done through death. Once we
are dead, we break away. God
condemned sin in Christ's flesh. We
have died in Christ and broken away
from the law. We are like the woman,
and our flesh is like the husband.
Once we are dead, we break away
from the flesh. The requirement of
the law, at most, is death. No matter
how many sins a sinner has
committed, the law can, at most,
sentence him to die once. Once he is
dead, everything is ended. Once we
die, we break away from the law.
On the other hand, the verse says, "If
the husband dies, she is discharged
from the law regarding the
husband" (7:2). This refers to severing.

The Lord Jesus' persecution expresses
the love of God, and His being put to
death expresses the righteousness of
God.
If the earthly life of the Lord Jesus had
expressed only righteousness, there
would not have been so much
opposition. But since He received the
tax collectors and sinners, the Lord
Jesus expressed love also, not just
righteousness. This is why the
Pharisees criticized Him (Matt. 9:11).
When the Lord Jesus healed the sick
on the Sabbath, the Pharisees took
counsel to destroy Him (Matt.
12:10-14). The Lord Jesus answered
the disciples of John the Baptist,
saying, "Go, report to John the things
that you hear and see: the blind
receive their sight and the lame walk;
the lepers are cleansed and the deaf
hear; and the dead are raised and the
poor have the gospel announced to
them; and blessed is he who is not
stumbled because of Me" (Matt.
11:4-6). Everything that the Lord Jesus
has done here is grace. He said,
"Blessed is he who is not stumbled
because of Me" because He was afraid
that some would be stumbled
because of His abundant grace. The
Lord said, "There were many widows
in Israel in the days of Elijah, when the
sky was shut up for three years and
six months, when a great famine
came over all the land; and to none of
them was Elijah sent, except to the
city of Sarepta of Sidon, to a woman
who was a widow. And there were
many lepers in Israel during the time
of Elisha the prophet, and none of
them were cleansed, except Naaman
the Syrian" (Luke 4:25-27). This also
expressed love because a widow is a
most pitiful person, while Gentiles
were despised by the Jews. After the
Lord said these words, the people in
the synagogue were filled with rage.
They rose up to cast Him out of the
city, intending to throw Him over the
cliff. During His entire life, the Lord
was under persecution because
whatever He did expressed God's
love.
The Lord's death, however, shows
forth God's righteousness because He
bore man's sins on the cross. He was
judged by God and He fulfilled the
requirements of the law.
We thank the Lord that He first
becomes the Friend of sinners, and
then He becomes the Savior of
sinners. He first loves us and then
works so that we can believe and
receive the redemption He has
Accomplished on the Cross.

Bravo bro.

shdemidemi: Thank you for this..

You are welcome my bro.
The Truth has to be said,thats the only sure way to FREEDOM.

Then you will know the truth, and the
truth will set you ..John 8:32.

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
What Galatians 3:21 means is that if
the law could have given life to man, it
could also have given righteousness
to man. Does the law give life or
righteousness first? Do Christians gain
life first or righteousness first? This is
the main point that Paul argued in
Galatians. Paul said that if the law
could give us life, it also could give us
righteousness. In our salvation, we
obtain righteousness first and then
life. Does a man perish because he
has committed sins? Does committing
sins or perishing come first?
Obviously, committing sins comes first
and perishing follows. How then can a
man be saved? He is saved by
righteousness. Does righteousness or
life come first? Obviously,
righteousness comes first and life
follows. We can verify this by the
Scripture. Romans 5:17 says, "Much
more those who receive the
abundance of grace and of the gift of
righteousness will reign in life through
the One, Jesus Christ." This verse says
righteousness comes first and
reigning in life later. Verse 21 says, "So
also grace might reign through
righteousness unto eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord." This is
another verse that says righteousness
comes first and eternal life later.
Romans 8:10 says, "The spirit is life
because of righteousness." This is yet
another verse that says righteousness
comes first and life later.
We need to be clear that the reason
we do not have life is because we do
not have righteousness. According to
the righteousness of God, whoever is
without righteousness should be
punished and should die. When the
Lord Jesus came, He did not first
resurrect and then die for us. He died
first, and then He was resurrected for
us. When we believe in Him, we
receive the righteousness attained by
Him; then this righteousness becomes
our life. The spirit is life because of
righteousness. The Lord Jesus died
and resurrected for us so that we
might have life. The Lord Jesus died,
and according to God's righteousness,
God must forgive man because the
price has been paid and the righteous
requirement of God has been
satisfied. Our salvation is based on
the righteousness attained by Christ,
which renders it impossible for God
not to forgive us. What Paul meant
was, "If the law could have given life, I
would also have to say that the law
could give righteousness. But I did not
say this. Righteousness is manifested
apart from the law, it is not of the
law." In spite of this, God still saves
man according to the principle of the
law, for the law states that only those
who are righteous can gain life. Grace
gives man righteousness and then life.

peteregwu: well, it is a breaking news. one thing about me is that I don't hide my feelings about anything. I hate Christ embassy teachings, they are not mindful of holiness and righteousness. pastor Chris is one of those I pray God will expose. he was the one that said mastur-bation is not a sin and also printing of tattoos on the skin is not a sin. he is a minister of Satan. so God will frustrate them so that they will not be sending people to hell fire. many are dieing in sin in his church and going to hell without knowing the truth. and people wearing mini skirts and show me yr breast, and they keep quiet without telling them the truth. and you call such people men of God? if you are calling such people men of God just because they have big congregation and pose with iPad they carry about to replace bible, they are now men of God. so who are the men of Satan?

I myself before becoming a chosen was a member of white garment church, cherubim and seraphim at 3, akintunde street, off ladilak bus stop, bariga. I was born there and brought, I spent more than 20yrs in bondage of sin....fornication, stealing, lying etc but thank for making me a chosen, hearing the raw undiluted word that changes live, through it I was saved. today I am an evangelist for Christ. preaching on the streets.

what if I had died when I was in my former church, I would have been in hell fire.

Lol.
do you know that most of what you have been taught in Chosen is even worse then what you are saying right now.
You think Righteousness,Holiness and Heavenly bound is by ur good works abi?most of you guys will be highly disappiontment on  the last day.

Kei144: The power of the Holy Spirit is like the hydraulic power of power steering of a lorry. If you have traveled in a large luxury bus, you notice how easily the driver steers the bus, even with one hand. If something goes wrong with the hydraulic system of the power steering, it becomes extremely difficult to steer the bus. Steering a luxury bus is very much like keeping the law of God. Without the power of the Holy Spirit, it is very difficult to keep the law perfectly. But, even with the availability of the power of the Holy Spirit, if the Christian does not take step to keep God's law,God's law will never be kept. It is just like a luxury bus driver not operating the steering, because he believes that the hydraulic power steering system is there to do it for him.
Ja. 2:17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
Ja. 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.

Your analogy abt à driver,hydrulics,and steering is wrong.Why? As long as the driver is not under the Lordship of the hydrulics(HolySpirit)he has fallen out of Grace.he will continue to steer the vehicle without the help of the hydrulics all the time.
And the the bk of James you quoted was out of context.James was speaking to Nomical Christains nt true belivers.

Ephesians 2:8 says, "For by grace you
have been saved." This indicates that
we are saved by God's grace.
Romans 3:25 and 26 say, "Whom God
set forth as a propitiation place
through faith in His blood, for the
demonstrating of His
righteousness..with a view to the
demonstrating of His righteousness in
the present time, so that He might be
righteous and the One who justifies
him who is of the faith of Jesus." This
shows us that salvation is also by
God's righteousness.
God's grace provides a Savior for us,
so that we have the possibility of
being saved (John 3:16), while God's
righteousness causes salvation to be
accomplished upon us, so that God
must save us. The part from the
Lord's birth through His death and
resurrection to His ascension, has
been accomplished for us by God's
grace, while the part since the Lord's
ascension until now is accomplished
for us by His righteousness.
Grace can be given or withheld
according to God's pleasure, but
righteousness allows no choice. Since
Christ has died and been raised, God
must save you if you believe. If you
believe and God does not save you,
then He is not righteous. What does 1
John 1:9 say? Does it say, "If we
confess our sins, He is merciful and
loving to forgive us our sins and
cleanse us from all unrighteousness"?
No. It says, "He is faithful and
righteous." The blood of His Son has
cleansed us from all sins. When we
believe, God must save us. God
cannot be unfaithful, because His
word has already been spoken. He
cannot be unrighteous because the
blood of His Son has been shed.
Therefore, we thank and praise God,
for He must save us!
All unrighteousness is sin. God cannot
be unrighteous, therefore He must
save us. Saying that God may not
forgive us is like saying that He is
unfaithful and unrighteous. We must
lay hold of God's righteousness. He
delights in our laying hold of His
righteousness. For us to lay hold of
God's righteousness is to honor Him.

Kei144: You didn't understand my post. When I was in the university, I once told my class mates that being a runner makes me to have good legs. One of my class mates responded, "Or is it that your good legs make you a good runner?" In the same manner, it is not keeping the law that makes a person holy. Rather, it is being holy that makes a person to perfectly keep the law. The question then is, what makes a person holy? It is the grace of God. And what is the grace of God?
Ac. 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
Ac. 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
The grace of God is the power of God, which comes to a person who has the Spirit of God. Two issues then are involved in getting the grace of God. One is getting the Spirit of God; the other is how a person that has the Spirit of God gets divine power to be holy and to do miraculous works. These are two issues Christians will thoroughly resolve in this end time in order to make the rapture. End time is already here. Ebola is spreading. If Christians do not wake up to discover how to obtain the grace of God, they will perish with the world. The doctrines you hear about the grace of God in today's churches will not save anyone from things like ebola.

So you are saying in essence,its the Holy Spirit/Law of the Spirit of life in à believer that fullfills the demand/commands of the law, Yes?

shdemidemi: I think he is aware of the difference, leaving them as two separate entities is what he refuses to accept. He thinks christianity should be subject to judaism and the status quo should remain as outlined in the old testament.

My bro.
Hes ignorant of there difference.thats the reason why hes trying so hard to mix both together which is impossible.

New International Version
And no one pours new wine into old
wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will
burst the skins, and both the wine
and the wineskins will be ruined. No,
they pour new wine into new
wineskins." Mark 2:22 ►

Kei144: The gospel of Jesus Christ is greatly misunderstood. There is church business everywhere, raking in billions of naira, yet Christians have not clearly understood what the gospel of Jesus Christ is.
Ro. 7:18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. [Or my flesh] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
Ro. 7:19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do — this I keep on doing.
Ro. 7:20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
Ro. 7:21 So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me.
Ro. 7:22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law;
Ro. 7:23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members.
Ro. 7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
Ro. 7:25 Thanks be to God — through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
How did Apostle Paul know that he had a body of death? Commandments of God (the Law) helped him to know that. So, we see the purpose of God's commandment:
Ja. 1:23 Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror
Ja. 1:24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.
Ja. 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it — he will be blessed in what he does.
The Law is a mirror; it helps you to see the condition of your inner being (the soul). It is a sensor that is able to measure how alive your soul is. Every human being wants to be holy, but there is hardly a holy human being. How do we know that there is hardly any human being that is holy? It is because of the commandments of God. The Law helps us to know how holy people are. How holy a person is is an indication of the condition of the person's soul. In Rom 7:24, Apostle Paul says, "What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?" The soul of virtually every human being is in this same death condition; you want to be holy, but you are unable. In Rom 7:25, Paul gives thanks to God. Why? It is grace.
Grace means that God imputes life and power into your soul. You are now able to be the holy person you have always wanted to be. The fact that you can be holy shows that your soul has been saved. If you wallow in sin and claim that you have been saved by grace, you are deceiving yourself. The only evidence that your soul has passed from death to life is if you become a holy person. When you look at the mirror, which is the commandments of God, and you are actually looking at your life, know that your soul is full of life. But if when you look at God's commandments, it is not describing your life, you are actually a wretched human being with a sick soul.
1Jn. 3:14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death.

How does one become Holy is it by doing good works/by keeping the Commandments?
.my bro,forget.
If you try to keep the law/Commandments as à Christain you have fallen out of Grace.meaning Christ accomplisment is not enough for you.

Christ is become of no effect unto
you, whosoever of you are justified by
the law; ye are fallen from grace. ◄ Galatians 5:4 ►

Grace is not a matter of giving man
what he deserves. Romans 4:4 says,
"Now to the one who works, his
wages are not accounted according to
grace, but according to what is due."
In other words, grace means receiving
what one does not deserve. If grace
involved receiving what one deserves,
the very meaning of grace would be
completely nullified. Grace is called
grace simply because there is no
element of merit in it. Ephesians 2:8
says, "For by grace you have been
saved." The fact that you were saved
even though you did not deserve it
shows that it is grace. Romans 3:24
says, "Being justified freely by His
grace." What does "freely" mean?
Freely in the original text is the same
word as "without a cause" in John
15:25, where the Lord said, "They
hated Me without cause." Saying
God's grace justifies a person freely
simply means that God justifies a
person without any cause. "The
Scripture has shut up all under
sin" (Gal. 3:22). "For God has shut up
all in disobedience" (Rom. 11:32). God
has put all men in the same position
so that none can be saved by doing
good. Each and every one must be
saved by grace. If you asked Paul how
he was saved, he would surely answer
that he was saved by God's grace. If
you asked all the saints how they were
saved, they would surely answer that
they were saved by God's grace. Grace
is God saving people without a cause.
(2) Grace is not a matter of
supplementing what man deserves.
Ephesians 2:9 says, "Not of works that
no one should boast." This does not
mean that man should not have good
works after he is saved. Rather, it
means that man is not saved by
works. If man were saved by good
works, he would be able to boast. If
thirty percent of man's salvation was
by works, man could boast of that
thirty percent, while God would lose
thirty percent of the glory. If ten
percent of man's salvation was by
works, man could boast of that ten
percent, while God would lose ten
percent of the glory. It is not possible
for God to share His glory with man.
God hates man's self-boasting. God's
intention is that He Himself would
gain the glory. Therefore, God's grace
does not supplement what man
deserves.
Grace is neither giving man what he
deserves, nor is it giving man more
than what he deserves. Grace is
neither a fair compensation nor an
extra compensation. The questions of
whether or not God should give and
whether man is worthy cannot be
placed side by side with grace. If man
wants to receive grace, then the
question of his worthiness cannot
exist at all, neither can the question of
being more or less worthy be
established. In the matter of salvation,
man cannot use any of his work to
obtain God's grace.
Many have thought, "I will try my best
to do good and keep the law; then I
will rely on God's grace for the things
that I cannot do." This means that
they rely partially on work and partially
on grace. A man once said, "We must
keep the Ten Commandments;
otherwise, we cannot be saved." Then
someone asked him, "Have you
violated any of the commandments?"
He answered, "Yes, I have." He was
then asked, "What do you do when
you violate a commandment?" He
responded, "I rely on God's grace for
the things that I cannot do well." This
kind of thought is a misconception of
grace.
In Matthew 19 a young man asked the
Lord Jesus, "What good thing shall I
do that I may have eternal life?" (v. 16)
. The Lord said, "But if you want to
enter into life, keep the
commandments" (v. 17). The young
man said he had kept them all. But
when the Lord said, "If you want to be
perfect, go, sell your possessions and
give to the poor" (v. 21), the young
man was not able. If man wants to be
saved by keeping the law, he must
keep it with "all." Not only does he
have to love God with all his heart, all
his will, and all his strength, but he
also has to give all he has in his
house, without holding back any item.
But if man relies on God's grace, he
has to rely on it completely. Man
cannot work for one-half and leave it
up to God to work for the other half.
God's grace does not supplement
man's inabilities. If it is by God's
grace, it is all by God's grace; if it is by
man's work, it is all by man's work.
One cannot rely partially on his own
work and partially on God's grace.
Why is this? It is because the Lord
Jesus has already died. God puts all
sinners in an equal position. When the
Lord Jesus was crucified on the cross,
God "caused the iniquity of us all to
fall on Him" (Isa. 53:6). The problem
of sin was solved once and for all.
Therefore, man cannot rely on his
own merit before God; it would
overthrow the Lord's work, as though
He had died in vain.

shdemidemi: ^^I can understand the source of the OP's erroneous beliefs, he thinks he is an Israelite by birth. Do yo you also think you are a Jew by birth?

He doesnt know the difference btw Judaism n Christianity.

Suppose there are three persons: A,
B, and C. Person C has sinned, and A
asks B to die for C. This would show
that A has love toward C, and that C
has answered the requirements of the
law; however, this is rather unjust to
B. I sinned, and God caused Christ to
die for me. Although this shows
God's love and although I meet the
requirements of the law, this is rather
unjust to Christ. Only when Christ is
both God and man is this just.
First, we need to know what
forgiveness is. Forgiveness means that
the one who forgives takes the loss
upon himself. It means that the
forgiver is suffering the loss of the
forgiven one. The loss is on the side of
the one who forgives. For instance, if
someone owes you 500naira and
you forgive him, we can say that you
bore the loss since you suffered the
loss of 500naira.
In God's plan of redemption, Christ
should not be a third party. If Christ is
a third party, then God is unrighteous
toward Him because He has no sin
and does not deserve to die. The Bible
tells us that man has sinned and that
God is the One whom man has
sinned against. The relationship here
is a two-party relationship between
God and man. Asking a third party to
die in a substitutionary way may,
perhaps, satisfy God's righteousness,
and it may meet the law's demand on
man, but this is rather unrighteous
for the third party. It is righteous only
because Christ is both God and man.
Micah 6:6 and 7 say, "With what shall I
come before Jehovah/And bow myself
before the high God?/Shall I come
before Him with burnt offerings,/With
one-year-old calves?/ Will Jehovah be
pleased with thousands of rams,/With
tens of thousands of rivers of oil?/
Shall I give my firstborn for my
transgression,/The fruit of my body
for the sin of my soul?" These verses
say that when we have sinned against
God, not only is an offering of rams of
no avail, all the sacrifices are of no
value. Even offering up our own
offspring is of no avail. In order for
Christ to not be a third party, He must
be God since He Himself is the One
being offended. The work of
propitiation for sins is righteous only
because Christ is God. Conversely,
since the work of propitiation for sins
is righteous, Christ must be God
because only the one who is offended
can forgive the one who offends. Who
can say forgiveness is unrighteous?
Christ is God; He is the offended One
and, therefore, He can forgive men.
Romans 7:10 says, "And the
commandment, which was unto life,
this very commandment was found to
me to be unto death." Romans 6:23
says, "For the wages of sin is death."
These verses show us that a person
has to fully keep the law in order to
live; otherwise he must die. In order
for the Lord to make us live, He had to
suffer the penalty of sin; He had to
die. However, 1 Timothy 6:16 says that
God alone has immortality. Therefore,
Christ must also be a man in order to
die for us. He had to take a body
upon Himself so that He could die for
us. He is God; this makes His salvation
of men righteous. He is a man; this
makes His salvation of men possible.

Double post.

Romans 9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved,
but Esau have I hated.

Nice one,OP.

lirusehn: Oga u on point ahswear!!!

My bro.
Na the koko of the Gospel b that oo.

Goshen360: The true gospel of Christ finished works is gradually unveiling to Christians. Weldone my brother. The gospel of double punishment is foreign to the Apostolic teachings.

Thanks Bro.
Fact is,it was God that place us in Christ..1Cor1:30.
When He was judged 2000 years ago on the Cross,we were also judged because God placed us in Him on the Cross

2 Cor. 5:14
When Christ was incarnated, He
included all flesh in Him.Just as the
act of one man, Adam, represents the
acts of all mankind.in the same way,
the work of one man, Christ epresents the work of all mankind.
Only after we have seen that Christ
includes all mankind will we understand the meaning of redemption. When the one man,
Adam,sinned, all men past and
present also sinned. This is because
Adam was the head of the human
race,and all men were born of Adam.
In the same way,when Christ was
justified, all men past and present
were justified, because Christ is the
Head of the new human race. All men
in the new human race are born of
Christ.
Hebrews 7 quotes one incident which
illustrates this point. In order to prove
that the priesthood of Melchisedec
was greater than that of the Levites,
the apostle mentioned how Abraham
paid tithes to Melchisedec and how
Abraham received the blessing from
Melchisedec.This proves that
Melchisedec was greater than the
Levites.How did he prove this? "For
he was still in the loins of his father
when Melchisedec met him" (v. 10).
We know that Abraham begot Isaac,
Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot
Levi. Levi is the great-grandson of
Abraham.When Abraham tithed and
received the blessing, Levi was not yet born.
Even his father and grand father were not born.
But the Bible
considers Abraham's tithing and
receiving of the blessing as Levi's
tithing and receiving of the blessing.
Since Abraham is inferior to
Melchisedec, Levi also has to be
inferior to Melchisedec.This fact
explains why when Adam sinned,all
sinned, and when Christ was judged,
all were judged.The reason for this is
that when Adam sinned, all men were
already in Adam, and when Christ was
judged, the life of all the regenerated
sinners was already in Christ.
Therefore, when Christ was judged for
man's sin, all those who believe in
Him were also judged. As a result, all
those who believe in Him need not be
judged anymore.

Is the purification of our sins carried
out only once or many times?

The purification of sins is made only
once.
Hebrews 1:3 says, "Having made
purification of sins, sat down on the
right hand of the Majesty on high." We
can see that His work of purifying of
sins has been accomplished. Hebrews
7:27 says, "For this He did once for all
when He offered up Himself."
Hebrews 9:12 says, "But through His
own blood, entered once for all into
the Holy of Holies, obtaining an
eternal redemption." Hebrews 9:25
through 26 says, "Nor in order that He
might offer Himself often...But now
once at the consummation of the
ages He has been manifested for the
putting away of sin through the
sacrifice of Himself." Hebrews 10:10
through 12 says, "By which will we
have been sanctified through the
offering of the body of Jesus Christ
once for all...But this One, having
offered one sacrifice for sins, sat
down forever on the right hand of
God." From this we can see that the
purifying of sins is only once.
The blood of Christ is precious
because of its efficacy; once is
sufficient to purify sins. It was not so
with the blood of bulls and of goats.
Hebrews 10:1 through 4 says, "For the
law...can never by the same sacrifices
year by year, which they offer
continually, perfect those who draw
near. Otherwise would they not have
ceased to be offered, because those
worshipping, having once been
purified, would have no longer had
the consciousness of sins? But in
those sacrifices there is a bringing to
mind of sins year by year; for it is
impossible for the blood of bulls and
goats to take away sins." This portion
tells us clearly that the blood of bulls
and goats was only an annual
reminder of man's sins; therefore, it
had to be offered frequently. The
blood of bulls and goats can never
take away the sins of man. The work
of the cross has accomplished this
once for all, and nothing more can be
added.
How then should we explain 1 John
1:7, which says, "But if we walk in the
light as He is in the light, we have
fellowship with one another, and the
blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us
from every sin"? The cleansing here is
a lasting and continual action. There is
a difference between continuance and
repetition. Repetition is to do
something over again. Continuance is
to be nonstop in an action. The
meaning of continual cleansing is that
the blood has lasting effectiveness
before God. The blood of the Lord is
continuously effective; it is not a
matter of having to wash over and
over again. The precious blood causes
us to have great liberty before God. If
we do not realize the great
effectiveness of the blood of the Lord
Jesus before God, we will consider the
blood of the Lord and the blood of
bulls and goats to be the same. Even
after a believer has committed sins,
the blood does not cleanse him again;
rather, when he confesses his sins, he
believes that the blood has cleansed
him, and then has peace.
Suppose a sinner wants to be saved.
Is he saved by believing that Christ
has died for him or is he saved by
Christ coming to die for him again? A
sinner is saved when he believes that
Christ has died for him. When a
believer commits sins, does he obtain
peace through believing that the
blood of Christ has cleansed his sins
or by Christ coming again to shed His
blood and cleanse his sins? Surely,
peace is obtained through believing
that the blood of Christ has cleansed
him.
Let us look at the typology of the
ashes of the red heifer in Numbers 19.
The red heifer for the offering had to
have three kinds of qualifications: (1)
it had to be without spot and blemish
—this typifies the sinlessness of the
Lord; (2) it had to be one which had
never borne a yoke—this typifies the
Lord, who was never a slave of Satan;
and (3) it had to be pure red—this
typifies that the Lord bears our sins.
Red typifies sins because it says in
Isaiah 1:18, "Though your sins are like
scarlet...though they are as red as
crimson." The red refers to the skin
and hair being pure red, not to the
heifer being red within. The Lord Jesus
is sinless within, while bearing the sins
of man without. The red heifer was
burned outside the camp (Num. 19:3);
even so, our Lord Jesus also suffered
death without the camp (Heb. 13:12).
The red heifer was for the atonement
of sins (Num. 19:4), because all the
offerings for the atonement of sins
had to have their blood sprinkled
before the tabernacle of the
congregation. If their blood was for
purification, it had to be sprinkled
upon the man. The manner of
burning the red heifer was different
from that of other sacrifices. "And the
heifer shall be burned in his sight; her
skin, her flesh, and her blood, with
her dung, shall be burned; and the
priest shall take cedar wood and
hyssop and scarlet, and cast them into
the midst of the burning of the
heifer" (Num. 19:5-6). The cedar wood
and the hyssop signify the creation,
which includes the entire world (1
Kings 4:33, "from the cedar tree...even
unto the hyssop". Also, the scarlet
wool signifies sins. This helps us to
realize that at the time of the Lord
Jesus' death, all the sins of the whole
world, beginning from Adam, were
included. When the Lord bore our
sins on the cross, the work was
absolute and unlimited, and nothing
else can be added to it.
Even though the red heifer died, the
ashes still remained. The ashes
proved that a red heifer had been
slain. What was the use of these
ashes? "For the unclean they shall
take of the ashes of the sin offering
that was burned, and running water
shall be put upon it in a vessel...and
the clean one shall sprinkle upon the
unclean...thus, on the seventh day he
shall purify him" (Num. 19:17-19). The
ashes had the function of taking away
sins continually. This indicates that
when we trusted in the one-time
substitutionary death of the Lord, our
sins were forgiven; likewise, we can
continually deal with all our sins and
obtain forgiveness by the fact of the
Lord's death. The cleansing in 1 John
1:7—2:1 corresponds with the
function of the ashes of the red heifer.
We should know that if we,
unfortunately, commit sin, it is not
necessary for another red heifer to be
slain; the ashes of the red heifer
which has died are still effective
before God. Thank God that when
Christ bore all our sins on the cross,
He not only paid our past debts, but
He also left enough funds to pay our
future debts. This is God's work. And
this is the gospel!

"But you have a few names in Sardis
who have not defiled their garments,
and they will walk with Me in white
because they are worthy'' (v. 4). Jacob
brought seventy souls into Egypt (Exo.
1:5). Ordinarily the Scriptures say so
many men, so many souls. But the
Lord says here that there are a few
names; the Lord pays special
attention to our names. He says that
there are a few names who have not
defiled their garments. These
garments are our righteous deeds.
When we stand before God, we put
on Christ, for Christ is our white
garment. However, we are not
standing before God here, but before
Christ, before the judgment seat
(Rom. 14:10). We do not put on Christ
here; rather, we put on "fine linen,
bright and clean; for the fine linen is
the righteousnesses of the
saints'' (Rev. 19:. There are a few
names which have not defiled their
garments; that is to say, their behavior
is clean. They will walk with the Lord,
for they are worthy.
"He who overcomes will be clothed
thus, in white garments, and I shall by
no means erase his name out of the
book of life, and I will confess his
name before My Father and before
His angels'' (3:5). The matter here
does not involve whether the name is
recorded, but whether the name will
be confessed. Those whom the Lord
confesses will participate in
something; those whom the Lord
does not confess will not participate.
All the names are recorded in the
book of life, but he who is not
confessed by the Lord is like one who
is marked out with a circle. He will not
participate. Here the problem is not
related to eternal life in eternity, but to
whether or not you can reign with the
Lord. It is an unfortunate thing to be
recorded and yet not be able to
participate. May the Lord be gracious
to us so that we may wear the white
garment before the Lord. We have the
white garment to put on before God,
but what about before the Lord?

On one hand, there is revival—praise
the Lord! On the other hand, it must
be rebuked before the Lord because it
is never returned to the beginning.
The Protestant churches have revivals
continuously, but the Lord says they
are not perfect, they have not gone
back to the beginning. We must
remember what was in the beginning.
The problem is not how we receive
and hear now; the problem is how we
received and heard in the beginning.
In Acts 2 many were saved, and the
Lord said they continued steadfastly in
the teaching and fellowship of the
apostles, in the breaking of bread and
the prayers. It does not say that they
continued in the apostles' breaking of
bread and the prayers, but in the
teaching and fellowship of the
apostles. The fellowship of Christ is
the fellowship of the apostles; the
teaching of Christ is the teaching of
the apostles. God only counts the
fellowship of the apostles as
fellowship; He only counts the
teaching of the apostles as teaching.
We cannot invent a fellowship; neither
can we invent a teaching. The mistake
of Thyatira was that she manufactured
her own teaching, since Jezebel was
there. God does not want us to
invent; He just wants us to receive. In
the twentieth century anything can be
invented, but not the teaching. In the
Spirit we may talk about discovery, but
in teaching there cannot be any
invention. We must examine what we
have received, what we have heard,
and hold fast and repent.
"I will come as a thief, and you shall
by no means know at what hour I will
come upon you'' (v. 3). "Come'' is to
come by descending. "Upon'' in Greek
is epi, which means I will descend by
your side, not come upon you, but
apart from you. The coming of the
thief is a coming of epi. We are here,
and he prowls up by our side. The
Lord's use of words is very ingenious.
We can translate it as, "I will come and
pass by you, yet you will not know it.''
The thief does not come to steal the
cheap things; he always steals the
best. The Lord will also steal the best
from the earth. The best are in His
hands, not outside of Him. We are in
the house: one will be raptured, and
one will be left. So the Lord says that if
you will not watch, He will come. The
Lord Jesus is coming back soon. The
day is getting closer. May we be
precious enough to be "stolen'' by the
Lord.