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ChrisKels:
Lol that line dey pain dem like die then and now. Hahaha bro u are obviously ready to have a brawl but sorry, kickoff.com aint there anymore. Lol

If u are a cyber Eagles forumite, at this critical time for Ghanaians, u wouldn't see Rawlings our resident troll and TFCO coming online for months. Dem dun run go hide

O boy do I need to tell you that I celebrated in tears when Nigeria beat Bosnia at the 2014 WC?

The Ghanaians were always touting us that the last time we won a WC game was in 1998 (16 years back as at then). If we want to challenge dem they will say "wake me up when you win your next WC game". And this was a period, a couple of years after Ghana reached the WC quarter finals. They won us 4-1 in a friendly in 2007, 2-1 at the AFCON 2008 Q/Finals and 1-0 at the 2010 AFCON semis. That period was the best time to be a Ghanaian on Kickoff. Dem come get mouth pass us, our Super Eagles just dey fall our hand dey go. Come even became Super Chickens. We missed AFCON in 2012 join am. And the Ghanaians so much capitalised on that to shame us.

Our liberation started coming when Uche Nwofor scored the decider when we beat Ghana 2:1 during the 2011 AYC in the group's opener. Nigeria winning the AFCON in 2013 was a major blow to their ego and the icing on the cake was that 6-1 demolition at the CAF U17 followed by our display at the U17 WC that year. Something Ghana have not won since 1995 till date.

Them still dey get mouth call us "Super Chicken, with a 16years winless strick" until we beat Bosnia in 2014 and worst still dey crashed out without a single victory. Kickoff was short-down shortly after that. O boy no be small war then o.

I once decided to stay away from visiting Kickoff for 1 week after we lost to Ghana at the 2010 AFCON.

While fighting with Ghanaians we still dey fight against South Africa. Those ones we call tgem our wives. Sometimes the rest of Africa will gang up against Nigeria. I don't know where many of those our guys dey now sef.

ChrisKels:
These guys are heart broken bro, they are saying hardship is the order of the day in ghana, that the country is over hyped, that the country is so broke, otherwise they would do exactly what Nigeria is doing now by setting up Academies all over the 36 States and organising U13 /15 tourneys where the gaffers pick their players for the U17 teams.

These came in reply to a post from a Nigerian that wrote that about five of ManU players came from our U15 youth set up.

I feel for them even though we aint doing much better yet

And truly, Ghana is an overhyped nation. You would not know until u drive out of that Kotoka International Airport in Accra.

Nigeria is doing a lot better than Ghana economically.

I think the hyping came as a means of calling back home their nationals who left their "Motherland" to neighboring countries for Greener pastures in the 1970s and 80s.

They just say good things about themselves just to feel better. Nothing dey there o.

Imagine the Citizens not having enough money to set up football academies.

ChrisKels:
These guys are heart broken bro, they are saying hardship is the order of the day in ghana, that the country is over hyped, that the country is so broke, otherwise they would do exactly what Nigeria is doing now by setting up Academies all over the 36 States and organising U13 /15 tourneys where the gaffers pick their players for the U17 teams.

These came in reply to a post from a Nigerian that wrote that about five of ManU players came from our U15 youth set up.

I feel for them even though we aint doing much better yet

I saw that comment and felt very proud as a Nigerian.

Some one even hailed the Ghanaian players for playing Manu Garba's team to penalties. That tells u they respect Manu Garba as an U17 coach. Of course who wouldn't? Ask the Mexicans how far. Lol

It was even mentioned that Nigeria lost it's key players to MRI yet they put up this kind of showing.

ChrisKels:
Lol my guy is calling for fasting and prayers to liberate them from the spirit of not winning trophies


Austin on Sep 16, 2018 03:14
Re: Nigeria defeat Ghana on penalties to win WAFU


Why we can’t win cup, everyone was blaming Nyantakyi that he was the problem but still problem continues. We need to fast n pray to cast out this wicked spirit of failure, i am tired now

Hahaha, Trophyless country. Since 1982.

maidaboi:
thank God no insults

Because the only Nigerian that commented there was diplomatic.
No try those Charlies o. Them get bad words for mouth

ChrisKels:
Bro they are making sense here oo. Honestly we need to review this format.. It has to be scrapped. Could it be that Pinnick, Nyantaki and other West African repps sold us out for their own selfish interests? This aint just right. Just imagine ghana, naija, ivory coast, Mali, Senegal in one group. No nah, it is quite unfair. About the match yesterday, Ghana went down fighting, I hail them. They deserved better though not in the expense of our qualification. Im just glad about the debate that this has prompted and I hope CAF puts an end to this madness soon. Why do we have dunderheads in this continent? Imagine Europe were able to think away out for the growth of the beautiful game in their region through the UNL and all CAF could initiate is something negative to its own football development. Bunch of disappoints with their yeye politics.

My brother, this arrangement is not just bad it is EVIL!

I still don't know how CAF executive members from the WAFU zone agreed to this devilish arrangement.

Imagine Nigeria, Ghana, CIV, Burkina Faso and others in one pot for only 1 to qualify. The other WAFU side has Mali, Guinea and Senagal and others (which to me is even an easier zone) producing 2.

Wait, WAFU no go meeting the day they agreed to this arrangement ni?

I was even complaining about WAFU only to find out that North Africa has only one slot. Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and the Sudans battled for one slot too.

This devilish arrangement is just to favour East and South African countries because they stand the chance of not having any team from those subregions if the old format had continued. The only nation in that area that try to put up a fight at the U17 level is South Africa.

To be honest we were just lucky yesterday. The penalty shoot out could have gone either ways. We may not be this Lucky next time.
We know how not participating in the last U17 affected new talents discovery in the last 2years, imaging missing out again.

Ahmad Ahmad definitely has an agenda to develop football in his region at the expense of the rest of Africa. All WAFU member nations should petition CAF and threaten to boycott the next edition if this Evil format remains.

ChrisKels:
Hahahahaha nwoke oma, ekele diri gi. I no get anywhere special for the Sunday groove, ama stick my ass down here reading every readable online for knowledge and fun. Thanks once again. I need more materials if u come across any oo

Omo dem Ghanaians have insulted everybody from their coach, to their President to their past FA chairman and mostly CAF for the qualifying format.

U no see that guy that mentioned that Nigeria that lost Miserably in their first game won the tournament. Na that kind person wey be if na those days him for see pepper today.

Following the Golden Eaglets win over the Black starlets last night, read the book of Lamentations chapter 1 from verse 1 to the end, written by Ghanaians: https://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/SportsArchive/artikel.php?ID=685289&comment=0#com

cc: ChrisKels.

fujirice:
Biko, is Osimhen still 17 or there is another Osimhen or overaged players are allowed? Someone please enlighten me.

That his comment was for another game.

BascoVanVeli:
IMO WAFU should have been separate from qualifiers. Using this method now leave's a big space of idle time. I wonder if the NFF will keep them together until May next year or just wait like a month or a week till the competition.

Definitely the team will need to go on a momentary break for another one or two months. The NFF may not be able to keep them in camp till May due to financial implications.
But within this period Manu and his crew should go round various academies to recruit more players. MRI must be conducted on them right from that point.

The team may later regroup later in the year for another round of screening this time with the newly identified players combined with old players.

The team currently has 18 players but the squad must be grown to a minimum of 40 after the next screening. The NFF can intermittently organise a series of friendlies. Like 3 in a week once in a month to effectively maximise camping period and reduce cost.

However, starting from 2months before the CAF tournament close camping begins.


Plenty of work ahead for Manu and his crew.

tbaba1234:
Our golden eaglets. I think there is still a lot of work to be done if they are going to be world beaters.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnLYsDjX0AAdDHk.jpg

Firstly we need to give the team kudos especially considering the number that failed the MRI scan just before the competition.

The team looks good going forward but their defense was always suspect. Defense seems to be Manu's challenge as the 2013 U17 and 2015 U20 both had that challenge.

Manu needs to fortify the team the more. If he could assemble this crop within 4-5 months, the CAF U17 is in May next year. That is more time to scout around. As we have only 18 Golden Eaglets players now.

Now, there is still the MRI scare as another MRI will be done prior to the CAF U17 and another prior to the FIFA U17 WC. Recall in previous editions we participated some players failed the MRI just before the CAF U17 and some others that passed at the CAF U17 level still failed when the one for the FIFA U17 WC was done. The thing is the boys are still growing, from now to May next year some may have attained complete bone fusion and same goes for ahead of the WC proper.

It means Manu will have to increase his number of players again. And that is still lots of work.

The WAFU qualifiers, though not ideal, has served as an excellent exposure for these boys. If you ask me they are a potential World Champions.

ChrisKels:
Make I now enter ghana soccer forum go cause troubles

Abi make I spare them??

Abeg, spare them. But you can just read their lamentations. Hahaha.

Try www.ghanaweb.com. Though they are not likely to update their page till tomorrow morning.

O se....O se o.....
Ose o.....O se baba wa.

I hope they told these boys that Ghanaian players would rather die than to allow Nigeria beat them to that ticket.

Joebie:
Mid-west, western, northern, Eastern etc are just political tags. It don’t change the tribes of the people in them. Even Nigeria is just a tag — a colonial one.

Gbam!

Thank you for pointing out this fact.

Joebie:
You sef just be like our constitution, and you are pro-Nigerian. That’s an irony. Genuine pro-Nigerians should be out to uniting the people such that thy can intermingle and choose whatever identity as they please. I’m in support of truly unified Nigeria which is why it’s important that we as a people should learn to appreciate our diversity but still feel free to identify with wherever we may choose.

I am a Pro-Nigerian but that does not make me ignorant of the current constitution of the Land.

I stand for unification, and unity amongst ethnic groups. So there should be no segregation what's so ever within ethnicities.

Before u call me rigid in terms of ethnic relationships my Children are half Igbo, half Yoruba with little Fulani lineage as my wife's Great Grand Father on maternal side is a full blooded Fulani man

ChrisKels:
But all the names from which the so called acronym was coined from are Igbo words. That means the villages that make it up are Igbo villages. Lol u just shot urself in the foot. Nothing like anioma tribe, thats good. That now supports the claim that they are Igbos as the villages brought together to form the sold called anioma are Igbo villages with igbo names abi u how u wan take explain how the villages got there igbo names(Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika and Oshimili)?

I didn't care reading anymore because ur contradicting urself.

The funny thing is that it is those that are distant to the Igbos that try most to prove these things they are saying.

You cannot know my house more than I do.

Joebie:
Haha thats the serious problem. A constitution that wants to keep people united. What an irony.

Well, that is the reality.

Joebie:
That’s how he feels. He feels 100% Nigerian

Whether he feels it or not, he is Nigerian.

komekn:
One take quick action NO SHAKIN
Warri no deh carry Las.

Nothing like Warri no dey carry last for this kind one o.
Monkey smart, na wood wey near ish other o.

komekn:
Because we are in Nigeria there are those who are actually in the majority can only see things from a tribal perspective.

However you have moved on.

Consider myself I speak Igbo better than my own language. Born in the UK spent the larger part of my life here.

But feel 100% undiluted Nigerian.

And Nigeria remains your origin irrespective of the fact that u were born in the Uk

Joebie:
Are u just concerned about what your kinsmen would think? Do you actually feel Igbo or not?

As as far the Nigerian constitution is concerned, your origin remains your origin irrespective of what you or your kinsmen think.

komekn:
Ok oh
Eshagware I don finish, I comot hand.
Meanwhile I still deh pray make Afcon take place for Morocco.

So u go drive to Morocco abi?

komekn:
The question that's mire pertinent is that with the passage of time. And in contemporary times, what do these people see themselves as ❓ ❓

That's your definition ❓

Times are changing and have changed I can assure you.

If you say they origin of these groups you have mentioned is Igbo, that's not in dispute or in contention. However to say that they see themselves as IGBO is making huge assumptions.

I was born in Lagos, I grew up in Lagos. I have spent 98% of my entire life outside the South East. Do u know I can chose to say I am not Igbo?

But then what will my Kinsmen see me as? Igbo.

So u can chose to say u are here or there. But those that truly know ur origin will recognize you with ur origin.

Mickael2:
Vardy is currently showing Iheanacho what he nerds to be doing at Leicester. Nobody is going to adjust their style of play to suit their backup striker, you either adapt or get relegated permanently to the bench

Bros, sometimes eh, na u dey take your hand put your self for hot seat. Lol

Joebie:
Lol yea they are igbos when it favors them, but not igbos when it doesn’t, because of the creation of that political entity. I agree. But on the other isle SOME igbos would claim they are the same with other people they are actually different from just for political/economic reasons. Such is the nature of man. But I get your point.

Hahaha, well, na dem know o.

I cannot deny my origin.

Joebie:
Ok let’s don’t change the subject. We’ve been talking about identity in terms of tribes. You cant devide somebody in such a way that they lose that identity, unless you go the white American route.

That exactly is the fact I have been trying to point out.

You cannot divide a people such that they lose their identity. Which is why I say the Aniomas, Ikwerres and the Etches are still Igbos irrespective of the division created due to political conveniences.

Finito!

tbaba1234:
Ujah was on target for Mainz.

This one still dey play ball?

Joebie:
Sir i Only asked about the North. Are u saying people of other ethnicities always saw themselves as Hausas until Gowon did what he did. Saying I’m from the North is not the same as saying I’m Hausa. Political regions and tribes are two separate entities. What am I saying here? Just because we now have Niger-Delta, does not stop an Urhobo man from knowing his distinct roots as different from an Igbo man. I’m not tying to go political with this discussion. My focus has been Nigerians should learn what makes the many tribes in this country unique. Just as Safarigirl pointed out people change identities for political/economic reasons, but having the said knowledge would even make everyone aware of each other’s intentions whenever the situation calls for it.

I had to give you the bigger picture before Zeroing-in on the North so you will appreciate the relative political collabo in the North, compared to the South, prior to Gowon's Divide and Rule system.

And to your last question, all Northerners did not consider themselves as Hausas but they presented a common Northern agenda in the Nigerian polity. The breaking up of the Northern Region gave Northern minorities more voice in Nigerian politics.

As I said before, Gowon's Divide and Rule System gave birth to what we call the Middle-Belt today, who are more willing to say they are from the Middle Belt than to say they are from the North.

maidaboi:
History has taking over

No vex. Sometimes one argument leads to the other. We'll get back to football as quickly as possible.

rabzy:
Did you also take into consideration how many middle belt officers lost their lives in the first coup. Could it be a major factor in their reaction. People are not static, they relate and react based on experiences, people identify and de-identify with people and states based on collective experiences and events over a course of time. If you have identified with a course previously based on shared common interests, you can decide to alienate yourself and redefine if the reasons are no longer tenable. It's just the way we are as humans.

Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa were not from the Middle Belt were they?

I don't have a detailed account of the Northern Army officers that died in that coup but these two I mentioned were the two Core Northerners consumed by the coup.

Well, you may be right. Because the Core of the Nigerian Army then and till date are men of the Middle Belt.

komekn:
This is not an argument.

It's a discourse on ethnic origin, if you go to the origins of Europe and it's differing nations it's very difficult to say who is purely English.

Where do you start ❓ The difference is they don't use it as the singular component for eligibility with regards to elected officials.

That's why Obama who many will define as an African became the president of the USA.

Meanwhile there are a lot of of you who exclude Nigerian origin players as FB and should not be in the SE.

Your great grand father, your father and self may have been born and brought up in Lagos. But according to many you are not from Lagos.

This discourse is not tribal it's academic discourse on ethnic origin. But because you are steeped in the mind set of tribalism you are blinded. As the good book says eyes but can not see. So steeped in the mindset or tribalism you can not decipher anything else.

So we are the architects of our own problems.

My brother ethnicity and Next Religion are the major causes of the problems we have in Nigeria today.