Danielnino00:


Here we go!
Voting of Members of the Nomination Committee
Gentlemen and ladies of the thread, it is time for us to vote for those who will stand as representatives of this thread and partake in the selection of award categories and award nominees.
This year, the nomination committee will be made up of at least 7 members: myself, icon4s who pioneered the award will continue as an honorary member of the committee and at least 5 monikers from this thread.
Every member of this thread is eligible to vote and be voted for. But let's keep in mind that this isn't a popularity contest. Vote for those you believe have the knowledge and passion for Nigerian football.
Here's the rule for voting:
1) You're to vote for 5 monikers from this thread to join the committee;
2) Vote the monikers in order of preference, from top to bottom;
3) Points will be awarded to each moniker you vote for. Your first nominee gets 5 point, the second gets 4 points, the third gets 3 points, fourth gets 2 points and fifth gets 1 point.
4) At the end of the voting process, the five monikers with the most points will join the committee;
5) In the event that two or more monikers are tied on points, they will all be added to the committee, as the goal is to have as many monikers to contribute to the process.
6) You're allowed to nominate yourself 😉

Voting closes on Wednesday, November 8th 2023, 10pm Nigerian time.

Thank you.

Thesupernerd
Kog45
Thegoodjoe
Chriskels
Charlesemeka

Danielnino00:


Based on popular vote, the award will go ahead this year.
Thanks to all those who voted..

Shortly, the calendar of events would be announced, so we can have the winners ready before the end of the year..

Kudos, Danielnino00 for taking this up. We are with you all the way.

komekn:


None of these players mentioned above have been consistently outstanding with top level performances for club and league.

So you are essentially agreeing with me.

In addition I could argue, none of them have had a run of games, but it's not a material fact.

Tella had an outstanding last season he is now in a team top of the Bundesliga and not getting any game time or a run of games to create form. In addition he has to displace in form Jeremie Frimpong, who is a Dutch international and maybe 🤔 better.

Chukwueze is in a better position but not necessarily good, he also is not getting much game time too. He has to displace Pulisic, who in my opinion is better ,more versatile with better end product.

So in this regard who is better for the SE is open to debate. In my opinion looking at Chukwueze past performances, he dribbles unnecessarily, poor crosser of the ball and his finishing is very suspect.

None of those issues that plague Chukwueze impact on Tella. I can assure he can cross the ball accurately there are basic requirements from academy football ⚽ more so in the Arsenal academy.

Most of our forwards are starved not getting good crosses. What's the point of having a " headmaster ' like V.O. and nobody can cross the ball with quality 🤔to him.

So it's time for Tella to be tried out and it's not a question of poor African football ⚽ pitches,it's about quality end product, football intelligence and work rate as well as helping the defence.

Oga, we don see this kine player multiple times before. Let us see him play in the WCQ first before even analysing if he can make the AFCON Team.

komekn:


Give me one example not two .

The basis for national team selection has always been outstanding consistent top level performance in your club and league.

With a proviso for quality of club and league, for instance, a bench warmer in Real Madrid can still be an outstanding player.

From the recent generation:
Chidera Ejuke
Emmanuel Dennis
Kelvin Akpoguma
Mikel Agu
Henry Onyekuru
I can go on and on.

What we saw before their Super Eagles invite was far from what they delivered.

Even someone like Ademola Lookman has still not lived up expectations.
I don't bring in sentiments on whether foreign or local born when I assess players. Let us see what Tella can do in the Green and white jerseys, ON AFRICAN PITCHES first before you start any comparison with Chukwueze.

komekn:


I've not seen where a player is a timid anonymous mouse 🐁 in club and league and then all of a sudden comes into the national team and becomes a lion ♌.

It doesn't work like that.

If a quality player is not performing in the national team, you have to first look at the management. It's like having Lukaku and if he doesn't score you say he is bad.

When Lukaku was having issues the Tuchel in Chelsea he was still banging goals for Belgium.

Chairman, I have seen multiple cases where a player is a Lion in his club and becomes a timid anonymous mouse in the national team.
We have been too long in this game to start jumping in excitement over any player we see in Europe. Club football is different from national team football.

Let Tella come and play on African soil, with his Nigerian team members against African oppositions before we start any comparison between him and Chukwueze.

komekn:


Is Chukwueze better than Tella , with end product and more effective in creating scoring chances ❓

Let them compete and the best players be selected on merit alone.

Coaches don't drop players like that. Let Tella come to the African Soil and prove those points in bold first before you start any comparison.

Nomyth:


It's the 89 set.

Benedict Akwuegwu and Babatjide Oguntuase.

The both look truly U 17.

Yeah thanks

Jide Oguntuase to the left and Ben Akwuegbu to the right.

I have always opined that age cheating in Nigerian football is not as widespread as people term it to be.

I know quite a fair number of some of these Youth players of the 80s and 90s. Asin i sabi Dem reach house based on say we grew up together. Many of them used their real age.

Fine a good number equally falsified their age but some of them also used their real age.

Look at that Young Benedict Akwuegbu in that pic and tell me he doesn't look less than 17.

Kog45:
Oya old boys in the house name this two young players in the picture.

CC:icon4s,,AndSunGorilla,Mujtahida,Maidobi,Idenna,Meliforme,Marjoribank

Looks like the 1985 U17 world cup winning boys.
It is only easier to identify those that progressed into the senior team. The one to the right looks like Victor Igbinoba, though.

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Nonsense

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mostob:
Sir, please try to use the 'quote' button whenever you want to reply to a particular post. It will make it easier for the people to understand you better.

Exactly

Danielnino00:


I've resent it

Thanks. Seen and responded.

Kog45:
Sincerely am not against younger players coming in but they just need to tell us that they are better,just check out Osayi and recently Bruno.

Meanwhile, these one were never hyped here.

Danielnino00:


Good morning chief. I sent you an email about a week ago. Can you please check?

Good morning bro.

Sorry I must have missed it. Can you, kindly, resend?

Jojodjo:
So you've all written off Akpoguma? ?
Well, it's no surprise since some of you wrote off Ndidi before his resurgence.

Akpoguma too was overrated here.

Kog45:
Even world class CBs fumbled seeing Messi not to talk of Omeruo, but still better than Bassey who failed against Balde of Guinea Bissau.

The thing is many of us here derive joy in talking down older players just to promote a new, untested player. It has always been like that. It is that new untested player that is always the best player to them.

Eguavoen bowing to the pressure of fielding too many new players in our starting 11 against Ghana in Abuja was largely responsible for why we couldn't win that game.

do4luv14:



True Sir, it's a general thingy with us in naija, ( the fire Bridget Approach )

Exactly, lack of proper and early planning and at the end having to rush things to meet deadlines. Why can't this kind of mix-up happen in a European competition? We are our own problems in this country.

Kog45:
I thought pages back settled this debate.

We saw Osimhen/Awo running into each other,Boniface came in second half and we saw better Osimhen,meaning Boniface must be utilized behind Osimhen and if he is not available then Boniface behind Awo or Moffi.

Well,everything depends on Peseiro

Osimhen and Awoniyi are typical "number 9s". They both want to always be at the receiving end of the balls and that forward pairing will run into issues.

do4luv14:



But Sir he is not their secretary , And I don't think the mixed up is from his office too

It is still this Nigerian non-callant attitude towards important issues. It is only a Nigerian club that such a thing can happen to. We are grossly very poor when it comes to administration. -And this also has affected the leadership of this country.

We just do things any how and expect things to automatically fall in place.

You cannot sow cassava and expect to reap "agbado"

daveP:
B.Sc Mathematics in the bag.
I'm Out!!! 🙏🏾😎

Wow, congratulations bro.

Welcome to the world

Kog45:
Today is late Rashidi Yekini 60th birthday

Yeking of Goals.

Happy post-humous birthday

GROUP A
Ivory Coast
Nigeria
Equatorial Guinea
Guinea-Bissau

Ivory Coast: They have a fairly strong AFCON Pedigree and are usually expected to scale through the group stage. With a second round exit at the last AFCON and narrowly missing the World Cup, the Ivorien team will hope to bounce back with this AFCON while also preparing the team for the 2026 world cup qualifiers. With home backing they are looking one of the tournament favourites and likely to qualify as one of the top 2 teams from group A.

Nigeria: They have a strong AFCON Pedigree. Last time they crashed out of the AFCON group stage was in 1982 and since then have always reached the semis except in 2008 and 2022. Nigeria are always expected to go through the group stage. Having crashed out at the second round of the 2022 AFCON and missed out of the 2022 World cup, they will want to bounce back with this AFCON while also preparing the team for the 2026 World Cup qualifiers. The event holding in the West African sub-region in a country with similar climatic condition can serve as a plus. Nigeria are expected to qualify as one of the top 2 teams from group A.

Equatorial Guinea: In terms of Pedigree, they are not among the top teams in the AFCON but they have always had strong showings, reaching the quarter final stage in the 2022 AFCON and losing to the eventual winners, Senegal. I consider them the dark horses of the group and are capable of causing upset against any or both of the top two seeded teams, especially as their football is currently on the ascendency. They may likely not finish among the top 2 but could possible be among the best 3rd placed teams.

Guinea-Bissau: They are the team with the least Pedigree in this group and amongst the least in the entire tournament. They have never qualified out of the group. They have always presented some descent and competitive showings at all AFCONs participated in but generally do not have that extra quality upset the stronger teams. They will give a good fight but will likely not qualify from the group.

AFCON CIV 2023/24 GROUP STAGE DRAWS ANALYSIS AND PREDICTIONS.

The much anticipated AFCON Draws have come and gone. Now we know the various countries in the different groups and in my opinion, the groups are fairly evenly poised and they are all groups of death, no game will be easy. This is my personal analysis of all the groups and group stage predictions, having closely followed the AFCON for over 35 years and being an ardent follower of African football from the 1980s to present.
Factors for analysis:
1. AFCON Pedigree
2. Performance in the last 2 years
3. Sub-regional/climatic factor

Note: Top two teams will qualify automatically and four other 3rd placed teams

Phew!! back from a 24hrs ban for try to post my 2024 AFCON analysis and Predictions

I initially posted all once but I think I need to post it per group.

Based on the CIV vs Maroc and Saudi vs Nigeria games, people are already saying that CIV will roast us
I have been long in this game to know that yes, good performance at friendlies are good but they cannot determine your performance in a tournament like the AFCON. It has played out over and over and over again.

Our team is gifted no doubt, what we need is for them to bring their 'A' game into the tournament.
My major worry, which has been a major problem since the loss of Carl Ikeme is the goalie department.

Kog45:
Chelsea legends

Life is truly a stage

TheSuperNerd:
Afcon 2023 Group Stage is Set!!!

We know our opponents! No more uncertainty

#MDAfcon23

All the groups look evenly poised, on paper.
Will be coming back to give my analysis and Predictions on who advances to next round.

AndSunGorilla:

Also to add to your point, the issue with underage players graduation into senior teams is even a global phenomenon, not localized to Nigeria alone. And I think life is just like that. I looked at Mikel's U21 set throughout the whole tournament not any of the players from.each country reached the top of their careers. Infact I remember I spoke to one Oyinbo man here for Amelika where I dey squat,his son and mine were on a second team and a comment he made was, a lot of the young kids we say are fantastic playing football when they were U10 may not necessarily be the best when they get to high school, he was like that's what he experienced growing up. This even applies much more in underage football.

I100% agree

And yes, it is a global phenomenon

Mujtahida:

Even Jonathan Akpoborie. He was banging in goals in the Bundesliga but didn't impress me in the GWG

Yes, another product of the China 1985 U17.
Akpoborie was good the Bundesliga but when he comes to the SE you will hardly see him do anything on the pitch.