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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 6:06pm
BascoVanVeli:



But you clearly said that I brought the name up in your quote. I don't care who knew who first this is no competition. You are the king of the NPFL happy now? Ever since they brought up the awards you have been on a mission to prove I am not a real NPFL fan but I could care less about that award you can have it if you want. Since you are god tell me why I defended Ighalo, Iwobi, Osimhen, Isaac success, etc?

Me ke? You are the undisputable King of the NPFL o. No one can ever drag that position with you.
I even gave you kudos for Defending the indefendable. I said I cannot do what you are doing. Infact the LMC/NPFL need to give you an award.

My point is it is not everything in the league that is defendable. Criticise them when necessary and hail them when they do well. My criticism of Lobi this morning started this all. And as expected I knew u will come for my head. grin

So Just relax man. No be our papa get those clubs. grin
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 5:38pm
BascoVanVeli:


No but Manu was the u20 coach at the exact same time. I have proved everything I said but you are only making shock statements that are baseless with no.

By the time the u23 tournament came around the argument was dead because Taiwo lost form. I never bashed the league. I didn't fancy the player that's all.

Because I like the league does not make me have to want all the players in the national team. I am not biased like you

Taiwo Awoniyi was promoted to the U23 team right after the U20 WC in 2015 right? I remember his first game which was away to Zambia in an all African games qualifier return leg in Lusaka where he scored 2 goals. That was his introduction to the U23 team which was after the U20 WC. So where does Manu come-in in the debate of Awoniyi vs Ajayi.

Oga stop mentioning Manu Garba he was not part of the picture. Stop this your diversionary tactics abeg. It was Siasia's U23 team. And then Awoniyi had not even started professional Football talkless of losing form. At that point in time that we had that debate Awoniyi was just newly being introduced into U23 team.

All in a bid to pull down Junior Ajayi u called the NPFL a Wack and went further to say Ajayi was always missing chances at 3SC.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 5:26pm
BascoVanVeli:

undecided
You are also a seasonal listener because I was clearly talking about Awoniyi.

Ow I see.... and I am also a seasonal hater of Kingsley Sokari aka "Pure Gold". grin
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 5:21pm
BascoVanVeli:


So are you telling me that Odey had 2 different break out seasons that brought him national attention? We can only be talking about 2017 if I'm in the picture

It simply means I knew Stephen Odey before u did which u confirmed to be during or after his break out season. In 2016, during MFM's first season in the NPFL, Odey was not the top NPFL scorer but still banged in so many goals (can't recall how many). He caught my attention as an 18 years old which was why I recommended him to Amuneke. It was a year after that he had his break through season and you and some others started clamoring for his inclusion to the SE of which I opined that he was not yet a SE material.

This is still pointing to the fact that you started the Defense of the NPFL after that Odey SE invitation argument grin
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 5:00pm
Coming from a seasonal hater of the Nigerian league:
This was in May 2017

Icon4s:

Wow!

I love this thread!

From this list I would sieve out the following players:
1. Ibrahim Alhassan aka Muazam
2. Ifeanyi Ifeanyi
3. and Etor Daniel

We have seem them and know what they are capable of. Good players but not much expected from them.

4. Obinna Nwobodo we have seen and also believe would be a national asset if he keeps working hard.

The younger ones are where my interest would fall on now. Who ever the next coach of the Flying Eagles would be, these boys deserve a look-in:

5. Nazifi Yahaya: In my opinion next big thing since after Victor Osimhen. He was the leading striker in the ill-fated 2017 U17 team. He jst came back from South Africa where he scored 4 goals in an invitational tourney.

6. Stephen Odey: Hot MFM striker. Already in the CHAN Eagles team. Though not eligible for the next U20 but would still be eligible for the next U23. He should give players like Victor Osimhen, and Orji Okonkwo a run for their money.

7. Elijah Akanni: Never seen him play but my eyes would be on him hence-forth.

8. Otun Fawaz: Seen him a couple of times with the 3SC team. Quite good and comfortable on the ball. Blessed with great skills. I would recommend this guy to the 2019 Flying Eagles coach.

9. Adebayo Waheed: MFM is known for parading youngsters in their squad and this is one of them. Our U20 handlers should be hanging around the MFM team.

10. Alhassan Ibrahim: A younger Alhassan Ibrahim. Never seen him play. But for him to have made the Kano Pillars squad even as a 17yrs old it means he is highly talented. Another player for the next U20 handlers to have a look-in.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 4:46pm
BascoVanVeli:


No be me and you o. I didn't even know Odey before that year. Musa Newman was their main man in their first season. So oga explain yourself


The AYC was in January/ February 2017 right? It therefore means the AYC U20 qualifiers took place in 2016.

Stephen Odey was in MFM then. So which explanation again.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 4:36pm
BascoVanVeli:



Bloody Mary. So you didn't complain every day about Manu not taking your much proven players? You know well that we debated a lot about that.

Yes a seasonal hater. You hide your hate when things are good but can't wait to dust it off when things go south. You heard it here first. We are not having an Awoniyi vs Ajayi debate today but you can't help to throw a shot. Oga I might be young but I'm not dumb. I see through your actions and it doesn't take that much to decode.

This your diversionary tactics has failed again.

The debate was Awoniyi vs Ajayi and that was at the U23. Was Manu the U23 coach? So why will I be bringing him into this discussion.

Yes I complained about Manu's team selection even though I clearly stated he was better off than Amuneke in that area.
But that is not the issue on ground here.

The point is in a bid to win ur argument of Awoniyi vs Ajayi for the top striker in the U23 team you called the NPFL a "wack" and also said it is like i work for the NPFL which was why I would go that length to Defend Junior Ajayi's status as the top striker for the U23 team.

What is there in you accepting that u called the NPFL a wack? You go miss your night food? grin
Can someone not at a point in time have a change of Orientation about something? Why are u Defending that your comment as if your existence depended on it.

The NPFL is a wack!. Can any thing happen to me as I have said it? grin

Free yourself man. Life no be like that o. cheesy
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 4:19pm
BascoVanVeli:


I thought you brought up Odey?

The funny part is you saying we will hear about them grin but all we hear about are Chukwueze and co.

U just picked up one comment from this recent Super Eagles Thread grin. This was a comment I made sometime in 2017 i guess. The Odey discuss was in 2016 when Amuneke was preparing his team for the AYC qualifiers.

This is a very poor work from you. grin Go back to the earlier threads jare. smiley
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 4:07pm
BascoVanVeli:


No need for question and answer pull up the post and shame the devil.

grin. Na your uncle you wan take stlye sen message.

Basco, I know u know the truth. And u know that I know . I have said my own. grin

End of Discussion. smiley
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 4:02pm
BascoVanVeli:



You are just a seasonal hate. Where were you when Awoniyi was balling last year? Now you want to say this and that. The argument was around Manu Garba's U20. Me and you never debated about Siasia's team. I challenge you to pull that up.

Look at the mess you are creating. You say I didn't want Odey who you claim was the top scorer in the league at the time in the flying eagles but yet you are claiming I only started hyping the league because he was top scorer. Which is it? Stop the fibs.

Till today you won't name these players that should have benched the likes of Chukwueze and Osimhen. We didn't need any help in attack so what would Odey have added by sitting on the bench?

Stephen Odey got hot and I proclaimed it. Same thing I did with Lokosa last season. Why come up with such a childish logic? I support the league get used to it.

There was no time Awoniyi and Ajayi were in competition for a place in the U20 attack because they did not play U20 together. That discuss was the U23 Team. You said Awoniyi was Planets ahead of Ajayi. I can decide to go pull it out but I don't have that kind of time.

Talking about Awoniyi balling last year? That is just a failed diversionary tactics. The Awoniyi vs Ajayi discuss was not last year. grin Or was it?

You call me a seasonal hater. Seasonal hater of what?

And to ur sentence in bold I can bet you don't support the league more than I do. wink
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 3:55pm
BascoVanVeli:



You are just a seasonal hate. Where were you when Awoniyi was balling last year? Now you want to say this and that. The argument was around Manu Garba's U20. Me and you never debated about Siasia's team. I challenge you to pull that up.

Look at the mess you are creating. You say I didn't want Odey who you claim was the top scorer in the league at the time in the flying eagles but yet you are claiming I only started hyping the league because he was top scorer. Which is it? Stop the fibs.

Till today you won't name these players that should have benched the likes of Chukwueze and Osimhen. We didn't need any help in attack so what would Odey have added by sitting on the bench?

Stephen Odey got hot and I proclaimed it. Same thing I did with Lokosa last season. Why come up with such a childish logic? I support the league get used to it.

Please answer these two questions

1. Did you once call the NPFL a Wack or not?
2. Did you insinuate I worked with the NPFL or not?

Answer these two questions and shame the devil. grin
Nairaland / General / Re: Yoruba Names That Look Like English Words by Icon4s(m): 3:27pm
Kingwizzy16:
As June ends today may it end with all the bad bad news


Amen

It was when I saw this post that I realized it was a 2018 thread. grin

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 3:05pm
BascoVanVeli:


And I am absolutely proved right about the bolded. Both teams are going to be in the group stage. Where did that come from if the league is so poor?

grin

So being in the group stage for now expanded 16 team CAF competitions is now a Monumental achievement for our league?

Chai gone are the days o. embarassed
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 3:02pm
Joebie:
And when Wydad visits as well

Nigerian teams have mostly been known to always make good their home advantage.

But by and large we hope Wydad would suffer from a terrible away form. wink
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 2:57pm
BascoVanVeli:




LOL oga u too funny. U are saying academy player like u are forgetting he is a world cup winner. U act like this was an unknown entity. Taiwo Awoniyi was one of the hottest Nigerian striker at that point and u are here still complaining about a guy that played for shooting stars who are not even in the NPFL anymore. Nobody argued with u about U23 so that another fib on ur part. That would have been stewpid when we know Siaone had his own boys.


As for Stephen Odey, that is how u have exposed yourself. Are u not the same man that told me I only started liking the NPFL because of Stephen Odey now u are saying I accused u of working for the NPFL because u so loved the Odey. Oga I accused u of wrongly bashing your so called friend Emma for fielding the 2015 Eaglets. I told u that the U17 team was special and there was no young player in the league that could add any value to the team. Mind you this was after the team had crashed and we just started getting wind of Odey. U never brought up any name but I myself told you that Amunike would never in a million years drop Osimhen. Now years later i have been proved absolutely right. Almost all of those boys are stars and it shows Emma was right to give them a chance.


It was in your mind that Taiwo Awoniyi was one of the hoottest stikers in Nigeria at that time. I even remember some of u guys saying he was good enough to break into the Liverpool team. grin. I am sure u guys have learned now that the U17 is just what it is: "the U17". It is a different ball game at the senior level. grin

Now to the second bolded, the argument was strictly " who would lead the U23 attack". Right or wrong? So it was not a "fib" as u put it. That was the argument. Anyone who is long enough here can recall that. Taiwo Awoniyi was still waiting for his 18 birthday before go signing for Liverpool. Meanwhile Junior Ajayi was one of the brightest NPFL prospects then. Being the top striker of a 3SC team that was still in the NPFL then. I am sure u later reallised that Taiwo Awoniyi was not in another planet as u put it grin

Now to Stephen Odey. I was one person that complained about the composition of Amuneke's U20 team then. Most if not all of his players were academy players and were not really ready for the U20 challenge. I have always stated that the U20 was not for academy boys but young professionals. We had a 19years old Stephen Odey being a leading scorer in the league. Why not invite him for the U20 qualifiers? Mind u inviting Odey would not have stopped Emma from inviting Osimhen. The team cannot have only one striker na abi?. It is now that some of those Emma boys can be said to be truly U20 players. Unlike the other time that they could not summount the mental ability to eliminate Sudan.

Your defense of the NPFL only started when Stephen Odey emerged top scorer of the league and u started pressing for his inclusion into the SE. I for one stood against that. I know that argument dragged for months and so u had to continue defending the NPFL standard just to justify your call for Odey's inclusion. wink

This was same person that called the NPFL a wack o. grin

O boy free yourself o. wink But I really give you kudos because defending the NPFL is a very difficult job. Me I no fit do am. grin
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 1:21pm
BascoVanVeli:


Why would u agree with me is it not u again?

I don't defend what is not defendable.

I defend the local league when there is need else I criticise. But you don't want anyone to critice the league at all even when there is every reason to.

When I gave up was when you were still Defending the league when the news of drop in the number of paricipating teams in CAF competitions came. That was the final nail on the coffin that the league had regressed. Instead you claim it is better now than ever. Na there I just Waka commot for the matter. grin

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 1:14pm
BascoVanVeli:



Say Whaat? The same team u wanted Junior Ajayi on(Flying Eagles) had NPFL players so ur comment is comical and baseless. U wanted Junior Ajayi over Taiwo Awoniyi and till today I won't agree with that. It has nothing to do with the NPFL. U bring this fallacy up every time u are lost for thought and it is not cute.

I was being sympathetic towards Enyimba until someone said they were the only professional team in the land and btw u used other teams crashing out as a ground to stand on.

Oga u wanted Taiwo Awoniyi a then Nigerian academy player to be a top striker for an U23 team over a Junior Ajayi that was already a top striker for a professional team like 3SC? What was your comment? Remember? "Taiwo Awoniyi was Planets ahead of Ajayi" But yes Siasia preferred Ajayi for the Olympics qualfiers and he delivered.

Where were u when I was fronting Stephen Odey to be part of the Amuneke's U20? Instead you rather accused me of working for the NPFL.

Very obvious your "sympathy" for the local league is only very recent. grin

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 12:18pm
Odunayaw:


From what we've seen, all teams in the group are prone to losing away

I also hope Wydad can lose away to Lobi.

They should try and secure all their home wins first.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 11:22am
Earthquake1:


For Sunday? U be church warden grin

grin
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 11:19am
BascoVanVeli:


That was then and this is now. Where teams losing star players like they do now? Last season wasn't completed and this season just started. Lobi and Enugu have not even played a league game yet but are still doing great, credit is well deserved.

We are also here to counter that which we don't agree with. You don't even have a reason why they lost just that NPFL clubs are poor on the road. There are matches that the better team still loses 1 nil. I think it is a bit lazy to just say they lost because NPFL clubs are poor away

Then asin? U think I was referring to only the 70s and 80s?

Players exodus has been on since the 90s all through the 2000s till date and it has been typical for Nigerian clubs to start the CAF competitions season before the league commences. Yet our clubs were strong forces in Africa in the 90s and 2000s.

If I want to go by the way you are reasoning I would have also asked you why you were not sympathetic to Enyimba the way you have been sympathetic to Lobi.

You the same person that once said everyone except me knows that the NPFL is wack. You even ask me if I was working with the NPFL. All because I was Defending an NPFL player then, Junior Ajayi. I don't forget things o.

I now wonder where all these defense and sympathy for the Nigerian league came from.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 10:30am
Earthquake1:


League Champion?

Lobi stars may not have gotten to the 5th position if the league ended well

grin

Na so we see am o. But make we accept they are champions. smiley
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 10:27am
Earthquake1:
^^ ^^ E be like say una no dey go church undecided

What if I tell you I am on my duty post? smiley
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 10:26am
BascoVanVeli:


I didn't see you condemning Enyimba. Even before their semi final you took style to proclaim they Had already lost in other to avoid condemning them.

You can continue being bias I was just showing my displeasure

I laugh at the bolded. I was just being real and factual. Or don't you know that going through a North African team is always like a dead end for Nigerian clubs.

I said so because I know Enyimba had a slim chance not because I used stlye to do anything. The way you reason sef. I just dey laugh grin
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 10:18am
BascoVanVeli:


Making the group stage was a monumental feet. They did all of this without a league in progress and btw also playing away from home.

When it comes to Nigerian teams in the continent I give my support and that includes when they lose. As long as they fight for their shirts I have no problem with them.

For those of us that have come a long way in following the Nigerian league and African Continental competitions, making the group stage is no monumental feet. Infact It is typical for Nigerian teams to be on break during the early stages of the CAF competitions.

I will continue to support Lobi Stars. But if they don't perform well I will also criticise them . That's why we are even here in the first place
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 10:05am
Mhoyorsawreh1:
Super falcons win
FT: 4 - 1

At least a confidence booster for the team and crew.

A lot of work needs to be done on that team. That aside I don't like the tactics of this Swedish coach. The girls don't string passes together like we are known for and too many long balls.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 10:01am
BascoVanVeli:



No fam you were nowhere to be found after they lost 3-0 and 2-0 away last season in the group stage. We asked wetin happen but you gave no comments

I am asking for fairness. Don't put down other clubs for what you would put down your own for. We should be in this together

Did u see me defending their loses? I recall condemning their defense along side the other NPFL teams. As also Plateau United had a shambolic defense during their Campaign.

I am not pulling any team down. You are the one making it up in your mind and bringing Enyimba into this.

Forget about Enyimba. We are talking Lobi here. They lost and I an showing my displeasure. Or do u want me to celebrate the lose?

Or rather I shouldn't talk about it?
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 9:55am
BascoVanVeli:



If you play football you will know that there are 3 outcomes to a match, win, lose or draw. Lobi have been doing their best so I hold nothing against them. Did you even expect them to make it this far?

That is my expectation for every Nigerian league champion. And not just the group stage at least they should be able to make it out of their groups.

Except you have accepted that our league is terribly poor.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 9:39am
Mhoyorsawreh1:
(Chiwendu Ihezuo 44',
Onome Ebi 63', Rita Chikwelu 68')

Good one

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 9:36am
BascoVanVeli:


Well then that would be the first time in history that u have included Enyimba with the rest of NPFL teams. U and I both know u were taking a shot but if u want to feign ignorance now wat can i do. But u didn't have ur highlighter when Enyimba was getting beat away from home in the continent.

Enugu Rangers have not yet lost away from home in the Confed Cup yet u are saying all Nigerian clubs have terrible away records.

Did you not read the comments I made about Enyimba not winning any North African team away in the history of their Champions league Campaign? I even went further to state the results they got even during their Golden era.

Na you know wetin u dey defend.

NIGERIAN CLUBS HAVE TERRIBLE AWAY RECORDS. That is a known fact. Rangers not losing any away game this Campaign doesn't change that. These Continental competitions didn't start this year.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 9:30am
BascoVanVeli:


Yea on the 5th match day of the group stage. The 3-0 came around the second match day but i didn't hear anything like this from u then.


Of course I condemned the loss. I don't know if u can recall my statement on terrible defending by our local teams.

I can see you are satisfied with the Lobi lose.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 9:28am
Earthquake1:


When the group stage was drawn, Lobi was the least team in that group

You should not be expecting miracles

Such is how low the Nigerian league has fallen.

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018, AFCON 2019 And The Dawn Of A New Era". by Icon4s(m): 9:21am
Earthquake1:


Going to a North African team is like going to hell cheesy

Bascovanveli, besides we are not talking Enyimba here. It is Lobi. I have already highlighted that fact that all Nigerian local teams have terrible away records. Enyimba inclusive.

I am not just happy with the performances of our clubs on the continent. If u are satisfied that is u. U have the right to. And so have I.

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