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Kog45:
Chief icon4s respect Sir.

And thanks for understanding Sir.

OMANBALA1:
With the quartet Ighalo, Mikel, Simmy and VicMo we have a forward line that if they gell properly na murder be that....Olorun!

How do you intend to set up this front line?

Mujtahida:
Coacheeeee, I hail, I truly hail. But what happens when they boss the midfield and the back four show discipline not to be dragged out? Unrelenting pressure on us abi?

Hahaha. Good question.

But when teams press forward the Full backs are typically involved. The best they can do is keep the two CBs. Under a 3 forwards against 2 CB condition, you have a good chance bro.

OMANBALA1:
Was I not the same person that said Ighalo is full of skills and tricks and Michael laughed me off ? A lot of people will not understand the quality that guy possess just because he has scored a lot of goals for Eagles

OK. I hear.

Let's see an audition of him and Simy against England.

Mujtahida:
The forwards mentioned in the formation were Simi, Vicmo, mikel and Musa. OmanB said that he would rather have Ighalo on the right than Musa. I now added that plus Ighalo (meaning that Ighalo in addition to the other forwards) any defence will crack. As in Simi as the arrow head, Vicmo on the LWF, Mikel as AM and Ighalo as RWF will surely be hot for any defence to handle.

So where does Iwobi fit into?

krattoss:
that means that e Don be for Simi..

And it seems the whole injury brouhaha was a script..

Cos I don't understand..

I have said this thing before that Simi is not just up against other forwards.

Rather than for Rohr to drop Simy because of Simon he would drop one fringe midfielder or one defender in his place.

OMANBALA1:
One on one Ighalo is very dangerous, Ighalo can take on any defender and destroy him. Is it because he is not European ?

Bros you mean this thing? Tell me more.

Mujtahida:
Do you know that as I wrote that comment my eye was not on Ighalo but the totality of Moses, Simi and Mikel. That's quite a formidable front ain't it?

Meaning the 3 combined make up Ighalo?

Or how does Ighalo come into the equation?

krattoss:
Own goal is reporting that Simon Moses is back in training.. Although is not yet confirmed..

But if true, wahala dey

Why do you say wahala dey?

You wanted him out before?

Mujtahida:
Plus Ighalo na which defence no go crack

As if Ighalo na Ronaldo

Mujtahida:
Plus Ighalo na which defence no go crack

As if Ighalo na Ronaldo

zuchyblink:
Can't Ogu play LB?

And why do you ask?

mazimee:
Croatia Scout Impressed With Simeon Nwankwo's Abilities: He Is Fast And Agile
Published: May 31, 2018

Croatia national team scout Ognjen Vukojević monitored the international friendly between Nigeria and Democratic Republic of Congo on Monday and has picked one Super Eagles player that impressed him.
The former Dynamo Kyiv midfielder and teammate of Olarenwaju Kayode at Austria Vienna has praised the qualities of Simeon Tochukwu Nwankwo on his debut for the Super Eagles.

''A real African player. Fast, agile, direct, very interesting,'' said Vukojević to
Sportske Novosti.
Croatia's talent spotter is expected to be one of the spectators at the Wembley Stadium on Saturday for the friendly between England and Nigeria.

''I am particularly interested in this game in London, they will be much more clear here, I want to see how Nigeria, who have a lot of players playing in the Premier League, performs against the English team.

''Will they possibly dominate or even the English will be dominant? This game will give a lot more answers than the match with Congo,'' added Vukojević.
Nigeria and Croatia will square off in their World Cup opener at Kaliningrad Stadium, Kaliningrad on June 16.

Igho Kingsley



http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=27965

Choi! so they came to spy us in our very own backyard?

No wahala. Them go still chop the cane.

Petrobros:
Let's even say he did that. "He once...... " you said. But yours is every hour, everyday.

We have all accused Siasia and Keshi of nepotism at one time or the order. But why are you taking icon4s own personal?Some other people too have come here to corroborate Onigbinde's tribal selection at that 2002 WC.

Abeg are you a woman please let us know so will start addressing you as a "she".

Bros please I am done with this discussion already.
I don't wish to be dragged into it again.

At least I have made myself clear.

tbaba1234:
Lateef Omidiji with the Nigeria under 15

Good start. We must not let this one slip off our hands.

[quote author=Taliban post=68058087][/quote]My brother sincerely speaking, I don't like keeping malice.But when I know associating with someone will bring disrespect or disregard I just stay off that person.

I have decided to ignore that fellow for some time just to stay off any confrontations but he has continued to write all sorts of trash.

We are here to discuss football but it is obvious he is here for something else.

Personally, if you ask me he doesn't exist.

Truidstar:
Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic, all playmakers for Croatia. When they are on the move bossing possession, they tend to drag the back 4 with them, hence a high line. When either of 3 afore mentioned players tries to pull a through pass to Perisic and the ball gets intercepted there is a huge hole in the midfield coupled with the slow recovery pace of the back 4, a counter attacking side will take them apart. Hope our video analyst is taking note.

Hmm....good observation.

darkelf:
And i think that we should expect to concede at least two goals.

I agree with Sir Mujtahida on this one. You defend too much, sooner or later that brick wall will crumble (not just fall).

If we can concede against Congo, we sure as hell will concede against Croatia and Argentina. Even Iceland will score.

This is world cup and prolly Lionel Messi's last. He sure as hell will morph into a beast. Can we keep the likes of Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic, Mandzukic at bay for 90 mins?

Do you think other coaches aren't noting our very predictable tactics and our counter-attacking play?

Okay, say we get a chance from a counter-attack, are our strikers clinical or consistent enough to finish off?

If our opponents decide to "Ramos" Mikel and Matuidi" Moses, won't our game-plan be undone?

Are we not tired of exiting group stages or second rounds?

What I know is that should these guys surprise us in Russia and perform beyond expectations, i will be the first persons to shout and declare in my house. But should they exit group stage, Rohr would definitely resign or be sacked and 90% of our players wouldn''t smeel the GWG again

First you need to understand why teams play counter attacking football.

No team or coach is comfortable with that style of play but sometimes due to the strength of your team relative to that of the other team you can chose from planning stage to play counter attacking football or during the course of the game you will just see your team playing counter attacking football, and soaking up pressure upon pressure.

If Nigeria wants to play a team like Benin, Togo or Niger you think we will plan to play counter attacking football? We will go all out, even at 1-0 we will still be pushing for more goals.

Believe it or not Nigeria Vs Croatia we are the under-dogs. Except you want to practice blind patriotism. Man to man we cannot match them.Yes football is a team sport but go look at games where the smaller team beat the bigger team, the small team would always receive more of the pressure. Cameroon Vs Argentina in 1990, Senegal Vs France in 2002 etc.

Nigeria beat Bulgaria in 1994 and 1998 but we were more under heavy attacks in both games. We only scored when ww had the opportunity. Nigeria Vs Argentina 1994 same thing.

Our defense and goalkeepers have always been kept very busy(reason why I fear for our current goalkeepers).

Nobody likes being under pressure. Every team likes being in control of the game but sometimes you cannot help being on the receiving end.

And I say it again looking at the fixture Nigeria Vs Croatia I expect Croatia to be the more attacking side, whether knowingly or unknowingly. Our chance of winning that game lies in our defense being solid and our goalkeeper making life saving saves and then our forwards being able to convert our chances.

Petrobros:
Please click on that link to see my conversation with forgiveness

I didn't see you there o
meaning you changed moniker. So which of those monikers were you? Haha

Petrobros:
Please click on that link to see my conversation with forgiveness

Hahaha, even you.
Me I will check o

opes:
https://www.nairaland.com/1952331/all-news-olympic-eagles-u-23/151#42567462

Thanks bro.

My people, see the simple honest comment I made that has made forgiveness tag me a tribalist all these years!

cc: Kog45

opes:
nothing different from what you said above sir.

Please take a snap shot and post it let people see it. I need to shut the devil up today!

OMANBALA1:
"What I said was that "the general opinion of people" then was that Onigbinde took Opabunmi and Adepoju (not even Ogbeche) to Korea/ Japan for tribal reasons.

I have said it here before that I was a sport writer in the late 90s but though I did less of it as at 2002. Onigbinde was interviewed by the Nigerian press on why he took both players to the WC. He said (quote me any where) that Adepoju(who he called his joker) and Opabunmi were his boys. The general public definitely will take that as tribal sentiment. And that was exactly how they saw it even in the Press Circles.

This very obvious incidence was what I pointed out and he tagged me as a tribalist!

In another post I highlighted the fact that he has remained till date the last coach from that part of country. This statement which is obvious truth and the one highlighted above are what he has been pointing to for the past 3 or 4 years. "

Icons4, I remember that exchanges vividly and Onigbinde's response about taking an almost retired Adepoju who has absolutely nothing to offer, an Opabumi which is like taking Chukwueze not even Nwakali because Opabumi was never a special talent. Yes, he openly admitted he took his "boys" to the world cup for personal reasons and it was shocking to hear such nonsense from not just a national team coach but from a respected football technician. After that interview people tagged him a tribalist because those his "boys" were Yoruba's

Exactly what you posted here is what I said that has made him tag me a tribalist all these years!

And please midify your comment by separating yours from mine.

opes:
the comment/post was not on this thread but on olymipc U23 thread, that was feb 3rd 2016

Please help us by posting the comment and let people compare it with my submissions above.

Kog45:
Good i know there is serious cold war between you and icon4s but sometimes better to keep quiet.


First,did you mean icon4s stance on Onigbinde for taking Opabunmi and Ogbeche to WC was tribalism and corruption.

Well that was the general opinion of Nigerians even Komkne and icon79 said it here that Onigbinde collected $10k from players which i don't see as tribal but info at their disposals.

I came out and said No.I know much about 2002 WC team cos my coach was a goalkeeper trainer to 2002 WC and i have three personal friends who are players in that team and they did not pay a dime to make the team.

I had fruitful discussion with Komkne and icon79 without labelling ourselves hater or tribal bigot.This is how it should be,nothing more.

On icon4s seeing Onigbinde as tribal man or corrupt.I want to tell you i had the same discourse with icon4s on Onigbinde.

Icon4s said why should Onigbinde took Opabunmi to WC and i replied why should Onigbinde took Enyeama and Ejide to WC .

Also cited that the same Onigbinde named 22 years old Keshi as his captain at afcon 84 over highly experienced Muda Lawal who was making his 5th Afcon appearance

After bringing out my facts i asked do we called Festus Onigbinde a tribal man.We had a good talk on it and we move on with no issue.

Sir forgiveness hope you remember my initial comment on this issue which i believe is enough for you to forget this and move on.

Sir i know you are a Nigerian possibly from Kwara or Kogi state and love super eagles dearly.If not you will not be here,pls let that love overshadowed any grievances and let's move on.

Firstly, let me clear the air on Onigbinde issue because that seems to be the only thing Mr Forgiveness has been pointing at and using to tag me a tribalist.

Anybody that can go back and dig up that particular comment should please do. I don't have enough time I would have dug it up myself. Or let forgiveness dig it up and post it here this moment.

What I said was that "the general opinion of people" then was that Onigbinde took Opabunmi and Adepoju (not even Ogbeche) to Korea/ Japan for tribal reasons.

I have said it here before that I was a sport writer in the late 90s but though I did less of it as at 2002. Onigbinde was interviewed by the Nigerian press on why he took both players to the WC. He said (quote me any where) that Adepoju(who he called his joker) and Opabunmi were his boys. The general public definitely will take that as tribal sentiment. And that was exactly how they saw it even in the Press Circles.

This very obvious incidence was what I pointed out and he tagged me as a tribalist!

In another post I highlighted the fact that he has remained till date the last coach from that part of country. This statement which is obvious truth and the one highlighted above are what he has been pointing to for the past 3 or 4 years.

Now, I know the thinking is that I hate Onigbinde because he is a Yoruba man.

But what if I tell you that High Chief Adegboyega Festus Onigbinde is my inlaw?

He and my wife are from Modakeke in Osun state, and not that alone they are from the same part of Modakeke that have a common ancestry!

Any body that thinks I have tribalism in my blood is definitely having a very false impression. I was born in Yoruba land, I had all my education including my first degree in Yoruba. I am married to a Yoruba woman and all my children bear Yoruba names not just at home but as their official names in school. My closest friends in life till today are Northerners(most of whom are even Muslims) followed by the Yorubas.

Now, one thing I can say is if I want to criticize some body I do so without considering his ethnicity or religious back ground. Same goes for when I want to praise someone. For eg I have said it here on countless occasions that Emmanuel Amuneke was my childhood friend and hero. When he won the U17 WC I praised him to high heavens but when he failed at U20 I dont think any one here criticised his team selection as much as I did.

Obefemi Martins, just like the Amunekes, was a boy I saw when he was growing up. He used to come watch us play at the White sand pitch at Orile-Iganmu, in Lagos. When we the older ones would leave the pitch they the younger ones then would take over.
Martins watched me play.
But when the clamor for his inclusion in this current team was taking place here did you see me join in? Because objectively speaking I knew he would not really make any difference at this point in his career.

And wait for the shocker, a member of the current Super Eagles team is a distant cousin from my mother's side. And yes I know it would be difficult to figure out that player because I have not been carrying any singular player's matter like gala on my head.

And now Mr Forgiveness, I have decided not to respond to any of those dirty jokes you throw at me (cos I see them as jokes), not because I am timid, not because I cannot speak for myself but because I don't want to rub myself on the mud. You purposely try to provoke me so I can join you on the floor right? But no because I don't take you serious. I don't even read most of your comments on here anymore because you have lost it completely.

I don't know you in person but if this is how you actually reason in life, then it is so so unfortunate. I will not ask you to stop throwing stinking things at me. If you like you continue. But just know that you have become a big distraction to this thread and I will continue to ignore you until you change your manner of approach here.

Kog45:
Hope to see a good match.4-3-3 not a bad formation against England.

I want to see the reunion of two Tottenham Hotspur academy players(Ekong Troost and Harry Kane) and how it goes.

I would rather go for a formation with more midfield presence. Eg 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1.

Mujtahida:
It would not be a bad idea to sting England with that 3-5-2. But contrary to our thinking that Rohr favors that style, I think the absence of key players made him adopt that tactics. With Vicmo and the house in full swing I see him deploying the usual 4-3-3

So what would your forward line look like in the 4-3-3?

edi287:
Some of these trolls better pray Nigeria don't make it past the group stages or it will be hell for them. I'll make sure to have my phone on this page for the whole day. It will be massacre of the highest order.
These fools will learn some of us were trolling from our mother's womb.

See, even if we eventually win the WC forget those people. No need to have any confrontations with them. They don't even exist.

Mujtahida:
Well my brother, like Chief said let's focus on the positive. So much to discuss

So how do you want the team set up against England.

tbaba1234:
They feed off the attention and people fall for it.

Exactly.

TheGoodJoe:
There are limited chances, so there will always be a norm for quality Potentials getting left out. The Dessers crew are not waging war against injustice. We pray for those who can help the team grow to get their chances.

Men.... una get time o.

Later they will say there is a gang up.

Please let's focus on a positive topic of discussion. The England game is fast approaching.

tbaba1234:
Best to ignore..

I don't know why they are like this. Same attitude all over. All of them.
I don't even know why some people are even quoting them.