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Humility017:
Lol....he never liked onazi
same way sir icon4 don't want ideye near SE..

Hahaha Ideye. That one.
The only game brown Ideye has played well for Nigeria was at the 2007 FIFA U20 World Cup when he scored in our opening game against Costa Rica.
The only other highlight I have of his entire super eagles career was that flick he give to Emenike for him to score against Burkina Faso at the group state of AFCON 2013.

We done try for that guy reach abeg.

Danycrusoe:
Guys so ABS are champions of the first NPFL u15 promises having defeated Kastina united 3-1. ABS captain Olasegun Olakunle was the MVP and Million Koma (enugu rangers) is the highest goalscorer with 11 goals although they finished fourth behind Niger tornadoes and the former two.

Well done my brother and thanks for the updates.

Please when or if the list of the tourney's all stars team is released also keep us updated.

TheGoodJoe:
Another Babylonian point.

Definition of a Babylonian.

When he can not debate a point, he brings a shovel to dig.

TheGoodJoe:
Another Babylonian point.

Definition of a Babylonian.

When he can not debate a point, he brings a shovel to dig.

Haha haha

E pain am!

Who cannot debate which point?

A debate you have already lost?

Haha haha.

Joseph1013, I think we need to organise awards at the end of the year. Like: Most debated topic, Most controversial moniker(we know already who get that award), ati bee bee lo.

TheGoodJoe has a time table for Iheanacho's drills.
He and Pep surely share same bed. Haha haha!

TheSuperNerd:
World Exclusive: Man City Offer Borussia Dortmund Iheanacho In Deal To Sign Aubameyang

https://allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/7018Iheanacho.jpg


According to information gathered by allnigeriasoccer.com , Nigeria international Kelechi Iheanacho may continue his professional career in the German Bundesliga next season.

English Premier League powerhouse Manchester City are prepared to offer Kelechi Iheanacho to Borussia Dortmund as a a sweetener in the proposed deal to bring Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang to the Etihad Stadium.

With the Gabon star valued in the region of €70 million by Borussia Dortmund, City will use Iheanacho as makeweight in the deal to sign him and initial talks are understood to have taken place.


The Taye Academy product is confirmed to be on the radar of other German clubs, including Hoffenheim and Bayer Leverkusen.


The 20-year-old Iheanacho has found game time hard to come by since this year started and an exit from Man City in the coming months is not out of topic.

The Citizens would prefer to sell the Nigerian to a foreign club, rather than their rivals in the Premier League.



**Ifeanyi Emmanuel


Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=22884

When we said TheGoodJoe does not understand the hand writing on the wall he was yanning wetin him like.

Iheanacho does not have a future with pep's city.

Abeg make una arrange this deal wella. Na two hands we go take receive him for Dortmund.

That same T-shirt.

TheGoodJoe:
I used intensity, not best and I want Nacho working under this intensity. Too simple.

So you are simply implying having the highest intensity does not necessarily translate to being the best.

CHECK MATE!

TheGoodJoe:
You are literally not making a coherent point. The point is so simple.

Guardiola has one of the most intense training session in football. We just watched Manchester United have one of their worst possession in history. This is due to the intensity of Manchester City.

So saying every coach construct drills is totally missing the point.

Also we are talking which is more important. Is it the playing time or training time. It is also basic knowledge, it is the training time.

Playing time shows the result of the training time.

If you agree a basic fact that the training is more important, we can move on.

For you asking if a professional player can be lazy in training means that you have missed a lot.

It happens a lot.

Yes Pep has the best training session in the world. Let us award him a trophy for that.

[quote author=TheGoodJoe post=56036545]How can I let it go when you come out with a statement like the above? .I have said a player's quality is judged after he has gotten a run of games. How can you say Iheanacho is not improving when you have not watched him enough to judge? [/quote
So when do we get to watch him?

When he is passed his prime? His mates are already making big statements. I will even be going too far to compare him with 21 yrs old Ronaldo and Messi. At 21 Kanu, Martins, Yakubu and Utaka were already painting Europe red. Iheanacho will be 21 this year and he is practicing drills only.

How I wish we have a quality and more experienced striker I would not have been this worried.

TheGoodJoe:
Funny if you think those 90 minutes games do more than the hours spent on the training pitch.

Answer a simple question and do not zap.

Do you think a regular player in a club like Arsenal who is lazy in training and does not maintain a healthy lifestyle.

Will do better than a player of the same age and ability who has Cristiano Ronaldo's work ethic and lifestyle when he gets a run?

Chai! Na wa. See question.

How can any professional player be lazy in training in the first place.

See, you are just compounding matters on this issue for your self.
What kind of answer are you expecting from such a ridiculous question. Abeg I no fit laugh again.

So your believe is that only Pep conducts drills for players. And only pep's players are hardworking in training . Hian. Oh.

TheGoodJoe, I know you are more knowledgeable about football more than this. So what is happening?

terzurum5:
Kikikikiki The great Comedian of our thread. Please pity me small now. I don laff taya

Seriously, am I Really that funny?

TheGoodJoe:
Humilation of fans to you improves a player more than a player doing high intensity stamina drills? Na wa for you.

Do you know about training conditions at all? Coaches working on the players crosses, shooting techniques, correcting the player when he nods the ball to the right direction. Going over repeated passing drills. Doing ball control sessions to improve first touch.

You can imagine. Referee red card and fan humilation. Hard tackles.

Do you understand teams do skill dribble sessions with a skills trainer?

Kai walahi! You never cease to amuze.

For a player to take part in drills only without game time and for a player to take part in drills and have plenty of game time which do you prefer?

BascoVanVeli:
U must be joking. I can really imagine that u are cracking up at the stuff u say.

Heys easy man. Let's still keep a friendly conversation

denniece1:
Abeg oooo, those players starting games, are they not being drilled also?

Drills are more important than game time. -TheGoodJoe 2016-2017.

BascoVanVeli:
Please answer these few questions. Do u see 50,000 fans at training? Is there pressure at training? Is training live on tv and seen across the world? How hard do u get kicked at training? Are u telling us that EPL referees blow training matches for man city? Can u put training goals on a CV?

Let me add more:

Do you get booked for hard tackles during 'Drills'?

During drills do you have to play 10 against 11 where each player doubles his efforts to see off a game?

Do the press criticise players for not doing well during drills?

Do players face opposing fans humiliation during drills?

Do you fight tooth and nail to secure a result during drills?

What about the urgency? Do you play with the same urgency especially when you are down and chasing a goal.

All these experiences are what what makes you the better player.
There is no way match day conditions can be compared to training conditions.

cc: TheGoodJoe.

BascoVanVeli:
I'm telling u, thegoodjoe will force all of us into heavy drinking.

No. I think it will be other way round.
We will force him into heavy drinking.

Kog45:
U nailed it my man.If i may ask does Mascherano learnt it as a bench warmer like Nacho.

Thank you for that point.

BascoVanVeli:
Abeg spare me the political speech. Everything u said was ridiculous. How can u tell me that a STRIKER didn't dip because he ran around? We need to see him playing week in week out, there is a huge gap between training and the real match. This goes for every single sport ever created, i don't see how u can't get this.

I just tire.

TheGoodJoe:
It strikes me that I have to explain what I have explained.

Mascherano said it took him over a year to master it. I want Iheanacho to master the system. This will make him a better player. I am interested in a better player than a headline hype.

I quoted you on this before all these talk started. I told you I will not have problem with Iheanacho benching as long as he is learning the system.

I explained this in detail. I guess you did not pay attention. The City team is still learning. Anyone watching the team now can see the improvements.

Just like the team, the players are improving. Guardiola actually has a three years development plan. I do jot want Nacho that long without playing time. That is why I said a season or two.

So because it took Mascherano over a year to master it, it will also take Iheanacho 1 or 2 too to master it. Your assumption here is highly flawed and baseless. No two players are the same and more so that do not play the same position and not have to compete with the same kind of players.

TheGoodJoe:
What part of I do not about Guardiola's playing time. Playing time is for people like you who think that guarantees development.

I am for the behind-the-scenes work. I am for the training sessions. The drills, the fitness routines. The diet, the reduction in building muscles through weights instead use aerobics workout sessions. The high intensity sessions.

These are what Nacho needs more than the game time you feel is the ultimate. After absorbing it. If there is no game time, move.

So tell me the handwriting I am not seeing.

Excuse me. Are you telling me that the ideal is to get only drills and no game time?

All those 'drills, fitness routine, dieting to reduce weight ' that you mentioned is it that players who play regular game time do not undergo those too?
Or are you implying a player will have to chose between drills and regular play time?

I am not understanding.

You are now saying 'IF there is no game time move'. We are telling you there is no game time. PEP DOES NO HAVE PLANS FOR IHEANACHO FROM 2017/2018 SEASON AND BEYOND. So that means NO GAME TIME FOR IHEANACHO FOR THE 2017/2018 SEASON! that is the hand writing on the wall that you have read but purposely blocked your mind from reading the meaning.

WE ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE 2018 IS OUR WORLD CUP YEAR AND WE WANT IHEANACHO TO MAINTAIN A REGULAR PLAYING TIME LEADING TO THE WORLD CUP. That is my point and that of some others here. Is that difficult to accept?

safarigirl:

Sir Joseph1013 (2016)

Ola, O kwa ezi okwu now.

TheGoodJoe:
That is what separates me from people that think football is about playing time. If you consider that Mascherano said it took him over a year to absorb Guardiola's tactics, you will understand why I said a year or two.

As you said, you do not care about the philosophy. So you are not even in the position to understand the importance.

Even German coaches held regular sessions with Guardiola to learn his methods because they knew the importance.

Please explain to us the one or two years plan Pep, sorry, you have for Iheanacho. And please we need to see that time table you and Pep drew for Iheanacho.

TheSuperNerd:
Sir TheGoodJoe.... I get your points... but Chief Icon4s just hit a major cord with that one line of his....

Mr Pep Guardiola don't seem to share same views with You about Iheanacho.... this is the key reason why Nacho must leave. Pep doesnt rate the lad. Nacho can learn all he wants at City and from one of the best which pep and his team of coaches are... BUT.... and A Big But... Nacho is not in Pep's plans.

When pep is asked, "Who are your strikers?"

Pep reasons just two players... "Gabby J and Kun Aguero"

So Sir GoodJoe... I get your well laid out points... I always do.... but the major killer point is Pep and you are not on the same page concerning Iheanacho.

I wonder how someone will see the hand writing on the wall and purposely refuse to read it. Or reads it but does not read the meaning.

TheGoodJoe:
Which kind of quit this argument?

Please.

I said a year or two. Does that in any way look like forever to you? Unlike your, I even pointed an time-table. Before Nacho entered City, I pointed a reason. Work with the best.


To Become the best, you challenge the best.

Anyone Guardiola and the City crew want to bring, let them bring the person. I welcome it wholeheartedly. As I said, most are not thinking of his development. They just want playing time which has proven to fail.

Let the person come and let the young man work very hard. When he gets hi run, he will shine.

O you said a year or two.

You even drew or pointed out a time table. You now the Manager of Manchester City FC right?

TheGoodJoe:

Who dipped his form, you?

Iheanacho has not dipped form. He is learning a different system. Put him in a direct Pellegrini system and he will flourish.

This is the height of your insincerity in this matter.

TheGoodJoe:
You are only concerned with Iheanacho's appearance and not his development. If you watched that game, you will see the speed of his movement.

It is not who calls police first that wins the case.

Let Nacho keep working hard, he will get to play with as much mobility as Gabriel Jesus. Nacho already showed sign in his last appearance.

I do not know how else to say it. Gabriel Jesus already has what Guardiola wants from Nacho. Exercise patience.

I thought you once said the coming of Jesus will only affect WFs like Sterling and Navas and not iheanacho. You talk as if you sleep and wake up with pep where as you do not know his plans and directions.

That man does not have plans for a Nigerian by name Iheanacho. Idealogies like: 'Nigeria does not produce world class players so no need investing so much on Iheanacho he is not likely to produce the desired results. Jesus is a Brazilian and they are known to reach the various Zeniths of world football and so he is a better prospect '. I have just given you an hint of what those Europeans think about us.

Sorry it seems Pep does not share same believes with you on Iheanacho.

TheGoodJoe:
Based no what. Nacho was on the bench and Bony was playing. Yet Nacho outshone him and performed despite lack of regular playing time.

Do you agree with me that Iheanacho has dipped in form?

TheGoodJoe:
You can not tell but in the last camp we did, we had journalist writing Iheanacho as one of the top performers in camp over those you watched regularly.

Is that not telling if he has dipped or not.

Is it not in the game against Algeria that despite not playing regularly, the coach of Algeria and a reputable journalist pointed Iheanacho as the reason we beat Algeria?

Do we have another striker who can put in that amount of energy? Even with their regular playing time?

Oh my God bros Quiet this argument abeg.

If you want Iheanacho to sit on the bench his entire career na you sabi.

City are planning on signing a new striker and of course you know that will mean Iheanacho may never see action for weeks and you feel happy that a player you so rated to be a world beater will continue to remain on the bench till when?

I am not understanding you again this man.

TheGoodJoe:
When people can not answer the questions, they resort to digs.

We have seen clearly now that with playing time, players deteriorate. That means, it is not a determinant for success. So quit using it as a yardstick to select players.

Without playing time players are even more prone to deterioration

TheGoodJoe:

It was people like you that clamoured we do not play Iheanacho and kept Ighalo upfront. Because Ighalo was regular at Watford and Nacho was not.

That was so shallow that a journalist asked of Oliseh's decision that Iheanacho was ready for the Super Eagles after he scored against Crystal Palace? Was it not the same player or did that goal transform Iheanacho?

I have repeatedly said, experience/bench warmer talk is an excuse of dropping the best for a weaker player.

We need the best in terms of speed, stamina, fitness, shooting accuracy, work rate, tracking back. If with Iheanacho's benching, he can do these more than those with regular game time, why is the game time paramount?

Iheanacho at that time was not considered as a CF for the Eagles.

It only made team selection sense to have had Ighalo as our CF then as he was our hottest striker. Though I never believed he had what it takes to become a goals king but he was a better choice than the others. No sane coach I repeat no sane coach would have started Iheanacho ahead of Ighalo at the time when Ighalo was having a glittering career.

Though he has deeped in form which was not anticipated this early.

All those attributes you listed in your last paragraph is it by being out of match day squad(warming bench is even better) that a player will achieve those?
So amazing.

See, Iheanacho is a Nigerian before being a Manchester City player. I am concerned with what he will deliver on the field of play and not how much of Pep's philosophy he has learned on the 'Drilling ground'.

TheGoodJoe:
If playing time is all that matters, they are a whole lot of them. Do you think Rohr does not know what he is doing when he keeps calling Iheanacho?

What did the regular playing time do for Ighalo and the Super Eagles?

Ighalo as we know is on a declining curve. So that is no comparison. I told you once that even playing time does not necessarily translate to improvement how much less lack of playing time.

This Iheanacho's case. I don't think there is any thing yet to be said about it.

The good, the bad, the hype, the drills, the lack of game time, The Pep's Philosophy, the coming of Jesus, the need to leave and so on.

My own is I do not care about Man city, Pep and their Philosophy.

My concern in this case is are we going to the World Cup with a bench warming striker?
A striker that only takes part in drills?

I really feel for the boy. He needs help fast else before our very eyes we'll see Iheanacho disappear from the spot light.
Which is already happening.

Gernot Rohr, I know you can do something. Please talk to Pep to release Iheanacho. I take God beg you.