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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:56am On Apr 21, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Sir Maidaboi..... smiley

Pls pardon me but I won't wanna rate the players just yet as some on your list haven't actually don't much on a higher level. Some are still in the beginning years of their pro careers... while some others are still trying to break into their main teams and Begin to shine....

I will wanna speak based on current stats and not the past. So permit me to pass up on this one wink

But I kinda like Chief Icon4s' ratings... I recommend it except for a few juggles in positions I would make if permitted... like for instance, I personally[b] would rate Ajagun above Ndidi in dribbling[/b]... but hey.... every one has an angle to their list okay.... so Chief Icon4s' resonates with me more.... wink
You also look at the level of competitiveness in the leagues they play. Ndidi even as a DM in the EPL still poses that level of skills display. Its a plus for the young man. Well, Its my opinion anyways.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
TheSuperNerd:
My Oga.... me sef dey Wonder why we still dey hammer on U-17, and U-20..... when we get pressing senior matters to handle.... we are going forward abi not backwards?

Egbon Forgiveness... when we say Iheanacho was best at U-17... u used to say... "na tata competition naa"


Now you bring it back as major yardstick to rate Awoniyi....


Bia... I will tell thunder to fire you oooo... angry
As if you don't know that guy.

He will call a tourney tata competition but if a player he likes takes part in it he will count it as the most important.

See as I just dey look am as him dey parrot for this thread.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:29am On Apr 21, 2017
komekn:
SHOCKING NEWS 4 ME !!!

Ugo Ehiogu is dead Cardiac Arrest, knew him personally as a youth coach at Tottenham really nice guy cannot believe it.
So sad! He just slumped yesterday.
RIP Ugochukwu Ehiogu.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:17am On Apr 21, 2017
komekn:
You know players improve and some do not infact they diminish. This is even more pronounced at youth level.

All I have heard about Awoniyi so far, is. PAST GLORIES of yesteryears. How good is he now huh huh huh is a more concise question.

KC whether we like it or not has improved, however, Awoniyi simply has not. Indeed he has regressed. So he is essentially no longer relevant, until he can show progression.

In my opinion barring a miracle he will never play for Liverpool. Danny Ings cannot get into the side and he has proven pedigree and cost in excess of £10 million. Right now trying to offload Awoniyi to a Vanarama national league side would be problematic.
When people always say Awoniyi has regressed I always say a NO to that. I will always say his development has slowed down. Or his development has fallen short of people's expectations. I believe he is still developing and may come up one day as one of our top strikers, though unlikely. He is just 19, I personally do not rule out any striker until he is 26.

Awoniyi was not what people thought he was in the first place. I have never rated him highly. He was over-rated. There are some strikers you see score few goals at that level yet you can still rate them highly. Awoniyi is not much technically gifted /Talented. He is an average striker that has learnt a lot from a very good coach as he seems a player that really plays to instruction. That was very evident in Manu picking him ahead of Success at U20. Also he is very enterprising. But all these can only push you to a certain level. He has gotten to the level where he has to face real professionals who know how to snuff out attackers.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:06am On Apr 21, 2017
komekn:
I haven't contributed to this discussion, I just don't know all these players well enough. To start making deductions.

However, in assessing these players we seem to be talking about past glories. We need to look at the present continous.

Beating 2/3 or even 4 players in youth football and trying the same in a professional competitive game are completely two different things.

Taking it further dribbling and beating your player in the Finnish league is a lot different from trying it in La Liga or the EPL.

I can't say anything about Awoniyi beyond his stats are very poor and no amount of dribbling can change that.
The bolded is why I rated Osimhen, K. Nwakali, Yahaya and Awoniyi based mainly on their U17 and U20 performances as I have not really seen them play as professionals.

People need to understand that professional football is a lot different from cadet football.
All those Awoniyi's U7 videos sef. Show me his 2016/2017 video, that is what matters now.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:01am On Apr 21, 2017
forgiveness:
Mutui, Amuneke and Oliseh all have UEFA Pro license.

He even got his own before Oliseh but we know na connection dem dey take get job for NFF as you rightly said. grin
Mutiu has been more occupied with being part of the Shooting stars board.D't think he has been aggressive about a national team coaching job. Nobody even hears any comment credited to him.

Look at Ikpeba and Amokachi. They are regular faces on our TV screens. But Mutiu, the last time I saw him on TV was during Yekini's burial as he was part of the burial organisng committee.

I do not know Mutiu that closely. Does he have communications problems?
Sports › Re: See Photo Of The Survivors Of The Football Viewing Center Tragedy In Calabar by Icon4s(m): 9:52am On Apr 21, 2017
So even tht big man on that bed dey follow go watch match for viewing centre.

RIP to the dead and speedy recovery to the injured

WARNING AGAIN: DO NOT SITE STRUCTURES UNDER HIGH TENSION CABLES
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:50am On Apr 21, 2017
Icon4s:
BREAKING NEWS: SUPER SOPRTS STOPS LIVE BROADCAST OF NPFL MATCHES


Cable sports channel SuperSport has pulled out of the
deal with organisers of the Nigeria Professional Football
League (NPFL) due to alleged breach of contract.
SuperSport for years has been the official broadcast sponsor
of the NPFL which is organised by the League Management
Company (LMC).
According to SuperSport, the termination was as a result of a
breach of contract on the part of the LMC.
Caroline Oghuma, the Public Relations officer of DSTV
could not reveal how the LMC breached the contract of their
deal.
“It was terminated due to a breach of contract, that’s the
official position of the company on this matter,” Oghuma
told Pulse Sports.
The General Manager of SuperSport West Africa Felix
Awogu also told Pulse Sport that the company have spent
an average of N6b annually for the last nine years for both
broadcast right and production.
All efforts to know how the LMC breached the contract was
not successful as SuperSport insist that it is on the LMC part
to reveal that information.
Chairman of the LMC, Shehu Dikko could not be reached
for further information.
The development comes weeks after Supersport took a
similar decision in Kenya – terminating a ten-year
relation with the Kenyan Premier League.
Currently, they only show live matches of the Zambian
Super League and the South Africa’s Premier Soccer
League.
In 2016, the company, who claimed to be downsizing
its operations in Africa for business reasons, ended
their union with the Ghanaian Premier League, which
another pay television company Star Times have since
taken over.
Supersport, who used to hold the TV right of the
Nigeria Basketball League, has lost it to Kwese Sports.
There are also dwindling subscription numbers and
stiff competition from new entrants like Star Times,
Kwese Sports among others.
In August 2013, the LMC secured a four year broadcast
deal with Supersport worth $34 million. The contract
was to run for four years, between 2015 and 2019.
Following the take-over of the basketball league, Kwese
Sports is likely to be the next broadcast right owner of
the NPFL.
.
www.pulse.ng/sports/football/supersport-stops-broadcast-of-live-npfl-games-id6556453.html
What is all this now. The only opportunity too see our local teams and appreciate some of our local stadiums.

Guess we need dannycrusoe now even more than before. undecided
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:49am On Apr 21, 2017
BREAKING NEWS: SUPER SOPRTS STOPS LIVE BROADCAST OF NPFL MATCHES


Cable sports channel SuperSport has pulled out of the
deal with organisers of the Nigeria Professional Football
League (NPFL) due to alleged breach of contract.
SuperSport for years has been the official broadcast sponsor
of the NPFL which is organised by the League Management
Company (LMC).
According to SuperSport, the termination was as a result of a
breach of contract on the part of the LMC.
Caroline Oghuma, the Public Relations officer of DSTV
could not reveal how the LMC breached the contract of their
deal.
“It was terminated due to a breach of contract, that’s the
official position of the company on this matter,” Oghuma
told Pulse Sports.
The General Manager of SuperSport West Africa Felix
Awogu also told Pulse Sport that the company have spent
an average of N6b annually for the last nine years for both
broadcast right and production.
All efforts to know how the LMC breached the contract was
not successful as SuperSport insist that it is on the LMC part
to reveal that information.
Chairman of the LMC, Shehu Dikko could not be reached
for further information.
The development comes weeks after Supersport took a
similar decision in Kenya – terminating a ten-year
relation with the Kenyan Premier League.
Currently, they only show live matches of the Zambian
Super League and the South Africa’s Premier Soccer
League.
In 2016, the company, who claimed to be downsizing
its operations in Africa for business reasons, ended
their union with the Ghanaian Premier League, which
another pay television company Star Times have since
taken over.
Supersport, who used to hold the TV right of the
Nigeria Basketball League, has lost it to Kwese Sports.
There are also dwindling subscription numbers and
stiff competition from new entrants like Star Times,
Kwese Sports among others.
In August 2013, the LMC secured a four year broadcast
deal with Supersport worth $34 million. The contract
was to run for four years, between 2015 and 2019.
Following the take-over of the basketball league, Kwese
Sports is likely to be the next broadcast right owner of
the NPFL.
.
www.pulse.ng/sports/football/supersport-stops-broadcast-of-live-npfl-games-id6556453.html
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:11am On Apr 21, 2017
daveP:
Mutiu Adepoju is the legend focus on goal nigeria. i really want him to be a successful manager and a bridge for our youngster to la liga. missing the headmaster!
Mutiu was a very tactical player.
Very efficient.

Also a utility player.

I wonder why he has not taken his coaching serious just like Keshi, Siasia, Amuneke and Oliseh.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:06am On Apr 21, 2017
tbaba1234:
Genk, Gent, Anderlecht
OK. I thought u were referring to only teams that reached the Q/Finals.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:52pm On Apr 20, 2017
tbaba1234:
I know now.. Paragraph 1Ajax
Paragraph 2 Belgian teams also usually made up of youngsters.
You know you mentioned "3 Belgian league clubs". U mentioned Gent and Anderlecht so who are the 3rd? Since you know it is not Ajax.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:58pm On Apr 20, 2017
tbaba1234:
Ajax young guns are through to the semi finals with 10 men.

Three Belgian league clubs did very well in the Europa league. Gent knocked out Spurs and Anderlecht pushed man united to extra time. It illustrates the quality of the league and why it is an excellent pivot for young players.

Icon4s, komekn
But Ajax is a Dutch team na.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:43pm On Apr 20, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
In some list, some people listed Mikel.
That one na deviation.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:03pm On Apr 20, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Dribble King should go to Aluko. Definitely ahead of Most Super Eagles player. Another notable mention is Isaac Success. Even though without much games, his performance against Manchester United where he skinned Bailly and completed the most dribbles in the game with few minutes on the pitch.

Victor Moses comes third to me. Exceptional at going past players. Deserved a rating higher than Success, but what Success did in that game blew my mind.

Onyekuru is another beast but I think he needs to work with a quality coach to refine his game before we can judge him.

Not really watched much of them to give a thorough rating. Simon Moses looks good also but misses tricks a bit too much for my liking.

Iheanacho has played too directly under Pellegrini that it will take a bit long to get him appreciating the deep style of build-up plays. He also does not hold on to the ball for long to have a chance to judge his dribbling skills.
Looking at the list. The rankings are meant for the young players.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:35pm On Apr 20, 2017
tbaba1234:
Chidera Ezeh's goal
He played as a right winger.. icon4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AecyNqBam68&sns=tw
OK. Better. More like it.
I was wondering when you initially mentioned he played as a DM.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:27pm On Apr 20, 2017
Joebie:
I for join this argument. I think "who is a better striker?" will bring more quality debate. then we can look at all their attributes. Dribbling alone is not enough for a striker. Some strikers dribble without any good end product, like good passes or scoring -- that does not help the team in any way.
Yeah, very correct.

But a striker being able to dribble adds more to his abilities.

Olivier Giroud comes to mind. In the whole of the EPL I don't think there is any striker that is as good as Giroud in terms of tap-ins and aerial headers in front of goal (maybe except Andy Carrol). But have u ever seen a goal where he takes on a defender one on one to create chance for himself to score. If Giroud had such dribbling abilities like Aguero added to his excellent positioning for tap-ins and headers, no striker for near him in the EPL o.

Immediately I saw Awoniyi's poor dribbling abilities at the U17, I was not sure he would emerge as a lethal striker, sincerely.
A player like that maybe suitable for the English game. Could be why Liverpool went after him and sent him on loan to Germany where they don't do much of dribbling but are still very lethal in front of goal.

I wish the young lad all the best anyways.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:25pm On Apr 20, 2017
Mickael2:
why is it that you just like saying absurd things? Awoniyi? Dribbling? Skills?! When exactly did that happen?

When he played the U17, one of the physiotherapists here was sold on the guy, I told him that the guy cannot dribble just that he is clinical and that he would lose his touch soon and then he'd become a fluke. Once you take out the clinical part of Awoniyi's game, he becomes a poor player, he cannot dribble, he creates every now and then but dribbling and Awoniyi should not be used in the same sentence...no, in the same essay in fact
You sure know the boy.

His build up play is excellent. He will always need to play 1-2 touches with a team mate to get over his opponents.
But when it comes to facing a defender 1 on 1 he usually falls short.

He is an excellent team player and also good in finishing. But the dribbling skills is not just there.
Travel › Re: Living In Ghana, My Experience. by Icon4s(m): 2:08pm On Apr 20, 2017
babyfaceafrica:
is that how they behave?
You have not seen anything.
Travel › Re: Living In Ghana, My Experience. by Icon4s(m): 1:19pm On Apr 20, 2017
babyfaceafrica:
you are rude..can't even have a discourse without insults... Smh
TYPICAL GH MENTALITY
Politics › Re: Udom Emmanuel Visits Akwa Ibom Young Engineers In Turkey (Photos) by Icon4s(m): 1:06pm On Apr 20, 2017
chimere66:
His Excellency,Mr Udom Emmanuel visited young engineers from Akwa Ibom who are currently undergoing training in Istanbul, Turkey to ensure they are doing well.Check out his photos in white ward coat below



Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/04/gov-udom-visits-young-engineers-from.html
Op instead of focusing on wetin dey happen there na selfie you dey snap.
Politics › Re: Udom Emmanuel Visits Akwa Ibom Young Engineers In Turkey (Photos) by Icon4s(m): 1:05pm On Apr 20, 2017
Ok
Family › Re: Unemployed Man Welcomes Quintuplets In Abuja (Photos) by Icon4s(m): 12:53pm On Apr 20, 2017
itsop:
Mr Imudia Uduehi, a father of quintuplet who married less than a year ago, has appealed to government, well-meaning Nigerians and philanthropists to support the family in raising the children.

uduehi, also an unemployed graduate, from Ekpoma in Esan West LGA in Edo, made the appeal while speaking with the News Agency of Nigeria on Wednesday in Abuja. .

He said the quintuplet was delivered at the National Hospital Abuja on April 12, adding that all the five babies and the mother were in good health. “I am delighted and I thank God to have blessed us with these healthy children, I know it is a huge responsibility because it is not easy to raise even one child.


I am, however, appealing to the government, well-meaning Nigerians and corporate organisations to come and support my family in raising the children. I want everyone to see these children not just as a blessing to us but also a blessing to the entire nation,’’ Uduehi said.

In the same vein, Mrs Oluwakemi Uduehi, mother of the quintuplets, who is a civil servant, expressed joy for safe delivery adding that she conceived naturally and delivered five healthy baby girls.

Uduehi, who also appealed to Nigerians to support her family, stated that they were presently residing in a one bedroom apartment at Lugbe on Airport road. “My husband is presently searching for a job and I am a civil servant with Nigerian Population Commission in Abuja.

We both live in one bedroom apartment in Lugbe because that is what we can afford. But now that God has blessed us with five children, we will definitely need a bigger apartment and money to meet their needs, especially buying baby food and cloths,’’ she said.


source :: http://www.praizeblog.com/2017/04/unemployed-nigerian-man-welcomes-set-of.html
When he was knacking the Akpako did he solicit the support of the Government, well-meaning Nigerians and philanthropists?

Carry your crosses o. Buhari already has too many things to worry about
Travel › Re: 5 Types Of Road Officials On Lagos Roads. by Icon4s(m): 12:05pm On Apr 20, 2017
The functions you wrote about VIO is exactly what the FRSC does. They should scrap that VIO jore! angry

Dem don even pursue dem comot for Edo state sef. They became a nuisance.
Celebrities › Re: Humblesmith Flaunts His New Jeep, His First Car by Icon4s(m): 12:02pm On Apr 20, 2017
Is Mitsubishi Pajero even a Jeep product?
Celebrities › Re: Humblesmith Flaunts His New Jeep, His First Car by Icon4s(m): 12:00pm On Apr 20, 2017
SMARTVIC10:
dat car isnt mitsibushi, it's pajero
grin

Just like saying "that car isn't Toyota it is Camry". grin
Politics › Re: How Buhari Sealed SGF Lawal’s, NIA Dg’s Fate by Icon4s(m): 11:20am On Apr 20, 2017
Aufbauh:
The suspension of the duo should be seen as the loudest statement made by this present administration as regards the war against anti corruption.

The implication is that if the SGF who is seen as one key member of the inner caucus of Mr.president is not spared, then no one not even the ministers are above chastening.

#IstandwithBuhari
huh
Sports › Re: 3-Year-Old Jay Jay Okocha Holding A Football (Throwback) by Icon4s(m): 11:16am On Apr 20, 2017
robosky02:
Throwback PHOTO – Jay Jay Okocha At 3 year old Holding A Football

PHOTO of Jay Jay Okocha At 3 year old Holding A Football. A lesson for us all to pursue our dream.


cc: lalasticlala, mynd44
http://www.mjemagazine.com/photo-jay-jay-okocha-at-3-year-old-holding-a-football/
From 3?

How him no go become great footballer?
Properties › Re: 450sqm/900sqm Beechwood Estate, Lekki (C of O) +pix by Icon4s(m): 10:54am On Apr 20, 2017
How much is it per plot now?
And who are the developers?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:40am On Apr 20, 2017
zicky:
my rating will be.

1. Isaac Success

2. Iheanacho

3. Awoniyi
Please rate from the full list as provided by maidaboi
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:16am On Apr 20, 2017
maidaboi:
from this two list i can say simon moses is the best
Just be patient. Wait for other lists bro.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
maidaboi:
ok sir, please rate these players dribbling skills on the scale of 1 - 100%
kelechi iheanacho
victor osimhen
kelechi nwakali
samuel kalu
simon moses
henry oyekuru
alex iwobi
isaac success
taiwo awoniyi
obazee
chuba akpom
stephen odey
wilfred indidi
musa yahaya
ajagun

cc thegoodjoe, forgiveness, thesupernerd, joseph1013,komehn, goldfish, bascovenveli, tezurum5 and all the thread members please give your ratings
It is also difficult to rate them on a scale such as what you proposed as they all play in different leagues with different levels of competition. Besides we have not really seen some of those players on that list in good enough action to judge.

However, I will put them in two categories and rate some of them comparatively in this order with number 1 being the best and down like that:

Group1:I have seen them well enough play as senior team professionals either at club levels and or Super Eagles:
1. Alex Iwobi
2. Moses Simon
3. Isaac Success
4. Kelechi Iheanacho
5. Oghene Karo Etebo
6. Henry Onyekuru
7. Wifred Ndidi
8. Abdul Ajagun
9. Chuba Apkom
10. Olanrewaju Kayode
11. Samuel Kalu
12. Stephen Odey

Group2: I have mostly seen them play as youth internationals. Never really seen enough of their post junior international games even at club level to judge. So my judgment here is based mostly on skills displayed at U17 and U20/23:

1. Musa Yahaya
2. Kelechi Nwakali
3. Victor Osimhen
4. Taiwo Awoniyi

I cannot rate Noah Obazee cos I have not seen him well enough.

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