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tbaba1234:
Give Osimhen time to get some football under his belt first. No doubt, he has potential but he is not the heir of anything yet.. He has to first establish himself.

TheGoodJoe:

Invite them to camp and let them battle. If Rohr believes in Victor Osimhen's talent, then let him have a chance to battle for a place in the starting line-up. If he does well, it can boost his chance to break into the first team of Wolfsburg.

goldfish80:
Your last sentence sums up my point.

Look how Osimhen is being talked up and already having his super eagles shirt already lying in wait for him before he kicks a ball in his Pro career.
Chisom Egbuchulam on the other who as I type this second is better than Osimhen and not even being discussed.
Nobody wants to hear about him because he's home based.

Am sure most people don't know Chisom Egbuchulam is the Nigerian footballer of the year. He won the award ahead of Iheanacho, Mikel and Osimhen.

If there's a role reversal and Chisom was playing for Wolfsburg while Osimhen was playing for Rangers, will People talk about Osimhen starting ahead of Chisom?
Food for thought.

joseph1013:
If the treatment of Kelechi at City continues, don't you guys think it will be a straight battle between Victor and Kelechi for the number 9 spot?

Kog45:
Yes but very few games but as in goal ratios is not better than most current eagles strikers like Ighalo,ideye,Iheanacho,Musa,though stand to be corrected.

2014-2016 Granada 49 matches /7 goals,though very good,talented footballer with good skills and delight to watch

BascoVanVeli:
To me Iheanacho has had a good season so far but I know he can do much better. He needs to learn how to show up when the going gets tough. The obvious next step is to start deciding matches for city like he does for the eagles.

safarigirl:
is it Nwobodo you're calling kids? Pesin wey win NPFL and is heading to African Champions League? Is that who you're grouping with Nwakali and Osimhen? Is he their mate? Because e no dey Europe.....

Na wa

Kog45:
I always love pundits that are precise in their analysis and u are one of them here on nairaland.My question is this,is success better than Ideye when w talk of national team,club football,experience and injury history.

Firstly,national team d two should not be compared.Ideye has made is mark in d national team(afcon 2013)his contributions in that tournament was superb and enormous,though he lost his place in d team but later earned a recalled due to his current form but national team experience nothing can be said of Success.

Club football,i know a lot w said Ideye couldn't make it in EPL but forgetting w have a lot of super stars like de Maria,Baloteli,veron,Shevchenko that failed woefully in Premiership.Apart from being flopped at west brom,Ideye has been a good striker in his various club sides.He had a better club goal ratios than success,though injuries did not help success.

I don't know why w are clamouring for injury prone striker as d answer to eagles striking position.No doubt Success has d talent,d skill,d strength and pace but goal ratio is not d solution and to make matter worst very prone to injury and no coach w bank on injury prone player.Pls ask Anichebe,if not for injuries that hampered his football career and still hampering it,i w rate him than any other present Eagles strikers but i cannot pick him coz is injury prone.

I w never forget what happened during u17 that Awoniyi needs to come in for injured Success and salvaged d situation,success injury nearly ruined our chances at d tournament and till today d guy is still battling with injuries.

The question is this do w need to bank on injury prone player and to make d matter worst w are even rating him higher than players who have showed us what they can do in d national team.

Iheanacho rise in d national team doesn't gives player like success an automatic shirt in d national team coz in this thread w have been hearing Nwakili,Osimihen,Nwobodo,pls national team are not for kids but super kids like Iheanacho,Iwobi,Ndidi who proved to us they have it all to slug it out with big boys.

I remember against Algeria d big boys raised to d occasion to save us namely Mikel,Moses and Musa when he came in

A free injury Success should prove himself at Watford first b4 national team.

Kog45:
Agreed,let iheanacho continue developing at man city and player like Iwobi continue having a playing time under a coach who is far better than Guardiola when it comes to player development.

This is d mistake Mikel made at chelsea developing under a wrong but world class coach Mourinho,anytime i watched Mikel i always shaking my head why should a talent be wasting like this(Nig vs Spain)but thank God he was still able to achieve but not at his potential coz he found himself at cross road,a DM at chelsea and AM/CM at S/E.

We are going towards that line again regards Iheanaho and i said time w tell may be d guy is developing or not.If not for Mikel talent that keeps him on which i don't think any Nigeria player have for now,w should have forget about him.

Mickael2:
They think he is in the same league with Ronaldo and Messi, yeah right

joseph1013:
If I tell you that Success is my favourite player in the U17 2013 set, you may not believe. Personally, I believe he would have scored more goals than Osimhen did if he played fully in UAE. He's very good.

BUT he is not reliable. From the little I have gathered about him in Watford, his lifestyle is not the type that will make him be at the optimum. I remember the first picture I saw with him and Ighalo, and I commented that I sincerely hope that Ighalo will influence him to be more of a professional. I think he has become worse. He is overweight and I doubt he cares about diet. I just checked his injury history and contrary to what thought, it wasn't as bad in Granada. From 2014-2016, he missed just 8 games to injury. In just 6 months at Watford, he has missed 13 games (and counting) to injuries. Something is wrong somewhere. I know Walter Mazzari is not an intense trainer, heck I don't know any Watford player that gets injured this way.

If he applies himself, he can play for the best of clubs in Europe. But he needs to apply himself, quit spending all that time on snapchat, and get in shape as a footballer. Focus is key for any youngster. Talent means nothing without application. Balotelli is a good example.

TheGoodJoe:

No one said Iheanacho is a finished article. If you remember when I said I would not mind Iheanacho benching and learning from Guardiola. If he was a finished article or people thought he was a finished article, will there be talks of him learning?

The point was compared to the likes of Ighalo and Bony, Iheanacho was a better choice. So if it was Bony/Ighalo there, Iheanacho was there. However, the young man has a long way to go. He will keep getting better.

CODMOK:
Rohr Slams Eagles Door On Enyeama – I Called Him Over 10 Times And He Never Responded Nor Call Back




Coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria Gernot Rohr has given up on trying to convince former goalkepper Vincent Enyeama to come out of retirement and play for Nigeria.

Rohr ruled out any future contact with the Lille man after revealing that the 33 year old appears to have made up his mind to stick to his international retirement.

The Franco German coach said he tried reaching out at Enyeama when they had a goalkepper crisis before the game against Algeria, but Enyeama failed to take his calls and didn’t return them later.

” When we had crisis in our hands after Carl Ikeme’s injury, I called him (Enyeama) over 10 times and he never responded nor called back”, Rohr said to Owngoalnigeria.com.

” I am happy with how Daniel Akpeyi responded to the test when he was called up as emergency cover, but he needs to buckle up because we can’t solely depend on Ikeme”.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/04/rohr-slams-eagles-door-on-enyeama-i-called-him-over-10-times-and-he-never-responded-nor-call-back/

Mickael2:
So you'd rather have Iheanacho as a second striker at City? crouch was once the first choice striker for England when he was at lowly Portsmouth, Alcacer was the main striker for Spain when he was at lowly Valencia. Iheanacho should move out, even if it means getting out of England. telling me that you want iheanacho to stay as a second striker at City just because you want a Nigerian in a top club is pure BS, no offence.

let me ask you a simple question, why did pep bring in Silva with Aguero? why didn't he bring in Aguero alone let's see him work his magic. or why didn't he bring in Silva alone with Iheanacho up top? I am abysmally shocked that you didn't reason that. he brought in Aguero and also provided a provider for him which Iheancho was lacking! do you think I just woke up and typed that? I watched it closely. which you obviously didn't.

tbaba1234:
Kelechi is not just having an off-day. The coach is not willing to give him a chance even when Aguero is out. A period on loan as the main man somewhere will boost his game and confidence, preparing him for the kind of fight, he needs to make at man city.

Kelechi is not the finished article, he needs games to refine the weak elements of his game. We want the best for him, even if it does not happen at Man city.

safarigirl:
of course he has the best aerial presence among the forward lines, he's the tallest one

TheGoodJoe:

I have followed this thing for two long. I have seen mind blowing talents like Giovanni Dos Santos and Gai Assulin fall on the way. Yet I have seen Aguero and Messi light up the football scene.

The secret (mostly from CR7) is never believe you are good enough. Keep working hard and believe you have more to offer. People like Robinho felt they knew it all and stopped working hard.

Balotelli believed the same and recently confessed that he just started working hard at Nice. So the likes of Iheanacho and Iwobi, K. Nwakali and C. Nwakali, Osimhen and Ndidi need the pressure to keep working hard.

daveP:
I huh?? Isaac over Ideye? Never!!!


I'd stick with Ideye that has a we of keeping ours spectator blood pressure down a lil than a success that hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself in English top flight.

komekn:
Footballers have ups and downs, the question is how long will those ups and downs last.

Sometimes it is a reflection of environment being in the wrong team or needing the right team.

Iwobi has barely had a complete season in the top flight. And we are already putting a world class tag on him, the same thing follows for Kelechi.

I really do not get carried away with the emotional sentiment of being a Nigerian fan. The blind support that is so fickle in my opinion we are setting these boys up to fail. By putting unrealistic expectations on them.

They are very good players but a long way from being World class . It took Raheem Sterling about three seasons to get some consistency.

otezu5:
I ve been finding it difficult to log into nairaland with my Username; terzurum5.
I don't know what else to do.
I had no option than to create this one

Anytime I log in this is what I see; "Please refresh this page to complete your login"

safarigirl:
all you had to say was 'short term'

BascoVanVeli:
Depends on their progress. Who knew Rashford would make it to France?

safarigirl:
that's why I asked 'long term' or 'short term'......BTW, who says 18-year old Osimhen can't start a game by September this year?

chrisooblog:
Yes Etebo brings defensive cover on the left side but I'm not sure he will perform optimally as a LWF. On iheanacho I get your point about him not taking iwobi's AM position but the issue I'm trying to raise is I want players in positions they can produce maximally. Even if it will involve tweaking the formation at least now we have more talented personnel to try new things out.

safarigirl:
@icon4s, chrisooblog, bascovanveli and lexyman

This una line-up, is it long term or short term? Cuz I think you guys are forgetting Osimhen and Nwakali if it's long term

Oh, and icon4s, Iwoni may have had a run of bad games, but no one asked for him to go anywhere because Wenger had faith in him enough to give him continual playing time. I think he only benched him twice or so after the OG incident and it wasn't in the EPL. That is hardly similar to Kelechi who gets 10 minutes sparingly and then a brandom starting slots once in a blue moon

Iwobi and Kelechi's situations are different.

please, I want to ask...which friendly do we have this month?

BascoVanVeli:
We can't discard Ideye, the team needs his experience. Plus his goal record and performances for us back him up.

chrisooblog:
Hi Icon Happy New Year great forward line you have there iwobi will eventually end up in the AM role just like his uncle JJ who started on the left before moving permanently to the midfield. With Etebo his versatility as much as it is his strength might be his weakness jack of all trades master of non things. Yes we can move him around depending on the opponent and formation we are employing against them but in the end I see him best operating in the AM/SS role. Iheanacho has been decent in the CF position but I think he would be best playing of a main CF that's why I will not be quick to dump ideye or ighalo at least until osimhen, sadiq, awoniyi etc are ready

TheGoodJoe:

Icon4s wants to kill somebody's child. See the frightening front line. The work rate and pace from Moses, Etebor and Iheanacho can kill somebody's child.

Awesome front line. With Iwobi behind stringing passes through the created gaps from the pacy players.

Deadly line up boss.

TheGoodJoe:

Icon4s wants to kill somebody's child. See the frightening front line. The work rate and pace from Moses, Etebor and Iheanacho can kill somebody's child.

Awesome front line. With Iwobi behind stringing passes through the created gaps from the pacy players.

Deadly line up boss.