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AIG07:
*smiles*
but y didn't u share ur dream earlier today-we for add u to d oracles wey de here. Anyway good for d lads. Make Musa too come do im own tomorow.

But wait, where is Baba Icon4s? His boys are running riot... Hoping for Lud.to hang on till d final whistle.

I dey. I was more fixed on the Bas vs Ars and PSG vs Lud game. I only saw Iheanacho's goal during HT reviews. Good for the boys. They can at least build their confidence back from there.

terzurum5:
One Bigger enemy of Nigerian football is "The NFF"

Super Falcons star Ordega regrets playing for Nigeria

The biggest enemy, my brother

TheSuperNerd:
18 years on Sir Icon4s.......

Another Super Eagles class rises and even spanish journalists recognise the strong potentials in this team.

Please, give this generation a chance in your heart.... Don't allow the France '98 debacle to shut you out from seeing that there could be a difference with this rising generation. They can be more golden than previously thought.

And Nigerian football is on the way to total recovery with this generation, hopefully..... Just watch as the script/story unravels itself....


Note: I know I cannot share in the pains, anguish and disappointment witnessed "live" that day after the Denmark defeat. I could only dare imagine it when I read about it in 2000 and watched it via clips/videos repeatedly same year and a few years after.


But don't let that stop you from still believing in our football. You've been around long enough to know that persistence is most-times rewarded. I wonder what the Leicester fans will say to you if they hear you. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THEY WAITED FOR THAT EPL TITLE?

WHAT ABOUT MAN CITY IN 2012? I have a clip of a man who stood with City for more close to 53 yrs or so just to see them conquer England again and then, that "AGUERO MOMENT" happened.


Point is, 18 yrs on from that crushing defeat at France '98, Nigeria is rising again and is on a path to right the wrongs done in France by heading to Russia and ruffling feathers before unleashing big-time on the African continent, in 2019, the arrival of a "new order" (more like the return to power of a true powerhouse and the team with Africa's finest moments and best placing on the world rankings in football history).... And going on strong from there continentally and globally.


NIGERIAN FOOTBALL IS ON A STRONG RECOVERY PATH 18 YEARS ON FROM FRANCE '98..... There's a golden rise to be witnessed.

We have attempted severally to rise again. But as usual......

That generation that had the likes of Martins, Yakubu, Utaka, Taiwo, Yobo, Mikel, Ogbuke, Apam, Adeleye, Keita, Ambrose, Odiah, Enyeama, Ejide, Ayenugba, Obodo, Osaze, Aghahowa, Ikedia, Agali, Ayila, & co held high promises. But again...

My brother dnt worry urself abt me. We know how we follow Nigerian football now

Kog45:
Kudos for your good comment,forget IDOMIE GENERATION TAG,u guys are wonderful here,despite our experience am always happy opening this thread,not only i watch football,i played it small(school football)with player like ex polish international Emma Olisadebe,ex eagles seyi olofinjana,Dayo Ajoge and local star like Niyi Ogunlana,yomi Sanchez,yemi Akinyanju.

So football analyzing cannot be based on age or experience perse but on how knowledgeable in reading d games without sentiments and i can say on this thread have seen guys given us wonderful comments irrespective of their experiences.

Truly d new super eagles is emerging under Rohr with wonderful world cup qualifying campaign so far that has eclipsed any eagles in history based on two matches ratio so far which w hope it w be sustained,though comparing d team with any eagles in history is uncalled for but must be praised for going on faster rate,beating Zambia and Algeria was not an easy task for those who understand d game.

Sir ICON4 may be exercising fear of what happened to France 98 team due to his expectations,forgetting that the team missed two Afcon due to political indifference of late Sani Abacha.

A good football pundits then trace our bad performance to Afcon 96 missed and Atlanta 96 gold,forgetting it was an age tourney.The fussion of afcon 96 squad and Atlanta 96 should have eclipsed d 94 team in France 98.Some of us see it then there w be problem and it shows coz d euphoria of US94 and Atlanta 96 was d only ego of France 98 squad.

Likely the same thing is going to happen coz we ve missed afcon 2015 and going to miss 2017 and it's going to affect d team if proper plan is not in place,missing d afcon w affect d discovery of new players coz only friendly sometimes does not determine d strength of a player e.g.Ogbeche,Sodje

The technical dept of NFF and Rohr should work together and make sure what happened in France 98 does not repeat itself,hopefully w qualified.

Now, that is where the problem lies.

You understand this potential danger but those guys in the Glass house careless. The flimsy excuse as usual would be 'no money'.

U pointed out the fact that our lack of participation at the 96 and 98 AFCON affected the team at France '98. That I would not totally agree. Why didn't that affect us against a star studded Spanish team and Bulgaria in the first and second games? The third game we lost to Paraguay bc we were already through and so fielded a second string team. Paraguay desperately needed to win and they got it.

Only the coach and players know what happened on that day. Even Brazil our supposed quarter final opponent were already gearing up to face us. Ronaldo De Lima was already talking tough about us.


NIGERIAN FOOTBALL NEVER RECOVERED FROM THAT DEFEAT.

soetanoreoluwa:
I lost appetite that night, I could sleep. I was just wondering what would have happened that we lost the match.... Very sad day.

Though I so much believe in super eagles until we played world cup qualifier 2-2 goalless draw against tunisia prior to 2010 WC. My hrt sank. It seems I have lost everything in life. Snc that day I stopped putting everything on SE.

Sorry about that.

TheSuperNerd, u need to come share the new dream with this lad too.

TheSuperNerd:
Yeah... Yeah... I understand. Exactly why you're not so excited about the rising generation's chances of making global impact.

The France '98 heartbreak is still fresh in your memory. I didn't watch France 98 live, I only read about it and got to watch videos and whole clips of it later.

I did tell you in my last response that indeed even the AFCON winning side of 2013 cannot be compared to or stand the Eagles AFCON squads of 2004 and 2006. Yet, the 2013 side did what those squads didn't... "Conquer Africa"

Our new rising generation is still emerging. I'm not among those trying to compare our present squad with the squads of 1994, 1996 (Atlanta), 1998 (France), 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006.

I'm only saying this present squad can go on and outdo the squads of 2000-2006. The 2013 Squad already did.

And they can also go on to match or even surpass the Glorious Squads of '94, '96 and '98.

I know you've seen it all Sir Icon4s and know what you're talking about. You have every right to be skeptical about our rising crop because of that France 98 super heartbreak.....

But I also know what I'm talking about. You gotta try fix that heart of yours again and believe with me...

You na arch-guardian of the halls of experience... Me na one of the little guardians of the indomie generation (NOTE: I no follow talk that thing about Okwaraji ooo... Loolll)

Truth is we have a looooooooonnnnnnngggg way to go before our current Eagles can match the class of the 2004 and 2006 Squads and take it up to or beyond the class of the '94, '96 and '98 squads.

BOTTOMLINE IS: I see the great and limitless potentials in this team just like you saw with the France '98 team which ended up failing woefully.... BUUUTTTTT A different story is about to be scripted... A story far removed from failure and away from the path of the France '98 squad

I have a dream.....

We will be watching and be observing together. May God keep us all alive.

Kog45:
Honestly we are on d same point,gives this team time and compare

Time like 2022 WC?

Guys please don't get me wrong.

I am not trying to rubbish the efforts of Rohr and this current team.

I am just making us understand that this team still has a long way to go. They are still not as good as several of the assemblages we've had in the past.

They may just be better than the teams we have presented in the last 3-4 years. If you think or believe they can do the unthinkable at Russia 2018 (if we qualify) well....

Kog45:
Honestly i don't want to compare this current squad coz they are just emerging and i still repeat it only US94 squad can be compared to any strong emerging Super Eagles not Afcon 2006.

Look at that AFCON 2006 Team again and tell me it is not a relatively strong squad compared to what we have had in the last 10years. Forget they finished 3rd.

Kog45:
Honestly i don't want to compare this current squad coz they are just emerging and i still repeat it only US94 squad can be compared to any strong emerging Super Eagles not Afcon 2006.

You agree now that they are just emerging. When I said "dey still dey learn" you rolled out names like Mikel, Musa, Moses, Echiejile, Ideye, Omeruo. Are these ones too still emerging?

Kog45:
Did i mention Amuneke

You only mentioned Odegbami and Finidi as the only wingers u rate ahead of Moses. So where do you place Amuneke?

Kog45:
Yes,Mikel,Moses,Leon and if he comes out of retirement Enyeama w give anybody run in d starting eleven of France 98

"Yes", meaning you rate Victor Moses ahead of Emmanuel Amuneke?

Kog45:
Yes,Mikel,Moses,Leon and if he comes out of retirement Enyeama w give anybody run in d starting eleven of France 98

I hope you are not classifying Mikel as a DMF in this current crop?

Mikel of thiz crop is the equivalent of Okocha of the 1998 crop.

Onazi is the current DMF.

Leon vs Okechukwu or Taribo.

Moses, we have been arguing since yesterday.

Kog45:
[img][/img]Pls what are they learning,player like Mikel,Musa,Moses,Echiejele,Ideye,Omeruo and Enyeama if he comes out of retirement won Afcon that the likes of Kanu,Babaginda,Taribo,Babayaro,Oruma,Aghaowa just to mention few cannot boast of

Pls this guys deserve little respect.

Firstly Enyeama is gone for good.

Lets even not go as far as the France '98 Team. Lets Compare with the 2006 AFCON Team. With the exception of Mikel (who was part of that Team) and Moses, list players of the current crop that could have made the starting 11 of the 2006 AFCON Team.

In case we are struggling to recall members of that team's starting 11:

................Enyeama

Odiah...Yobo...Enakarhire...Taiwo

..................Lawal
.................Okocha

Odemwingie......................Utaka

.............Kanu..........Martins


Other players in that squad:

Mikel Obi
Wilson Oruma
Julius Aghahowa
Christian Obodo
Victor Obinna
Yusuf Ayila
Sani Keita
Obinna Nwanneri
Ayo Makinwa
Paul Obiefule
Austin Ejide
Dele Ayenugba

Note: that was the era when we had a shortage of wingers after the exit of Finidi and Babangida and we converted strikers to wingers.

Kog45:
yea Tijani and Musa,pls prove me wrong and i still repeat what is d difference btw d duo.Pls some of us have been watching ball before d emergence of Finidi talk less of TJ,so i know what am talking about.

Pls just tell me what make TJ special than Musa to d extent some are even rating him than Moses.Apart from Odegbami,Finidi and of recent Moses coming into d league,i don't see any Nigeria winger for now that can be classified into this category not Babaginda or even Musa.

You rate Moses even ahead of Emmanuel Amuneke?

Babangida was not even a usual starter. As u know the argument is on if any of the current Super Eagles would make the starting 11 of the France '98 Team.

Kog45:
U know what Nigerians doesn't have respect for new generation of super eagles,so they w never agreed with u.


I can only rate Odegbami and Finidi higher than Moses for now not Babanginda,also Okocha than Mikel not Olishe(forget the screamer against Spain)let see d development of Balogun and Ekong may be we can rate them with Okechukwu and Taribo,time w tell,not forgetting Iheanacho,Iwobi,Etebor,Ndidi and rest.

@ Bolded, we have seen the bests of the bests in decades past. No be matter of respect, this crop still dey learn.

Kog45:
Moses w displace Babaginda

Moses of October-December 2016.

joseph1013:

I was listening to a live radio sports show one day. And I was shocked! when the two presenters also mentioned that the version they heard was that Samuel Okwaraji died in that match. I was like..... indomie generation

I called them sharp-sharp, and called them indomie generation and told them that "Thunder" Balogun scored the only goal from the version we heard. We laughed over it and they called me Kpokpo-garri generation in return.

Kog45:
Yea Babaginda was a baller but cannot bench present Moses,pls tell me d difference btw Babangida and Ahmed Musa who had two wonderful W/C goals against Argentina.

You dare mention Babangida and Musa in the same sentence?

No be say anything Musa will nt make the starting 11 for any Super Eagles Team from 2006 and earlier.

joseph1013:
Chai...una don start o. Do you know when the internet was invented? If Finidi was ever the world's best winger between 1995 and 1998, it will be recorded somewhere. So how come we have documented strides of George Weah?

[b]That's how they said India beat Nigeria 99 - 0. [/b]

And that's how the Indomie generation added that Samuel Okwaraji died during the match after he scored our only goal.

cc: terzurum5

AIG07:
Costa ke?
thank God de don sub am. It could have been WWE.
But conte don manage costa aggressiveness wella. D guy don de change small small.

Don't mind Kelechi he has over-gymned(or didn't u see his physic)

we hope he bounces back soon and stop this comedy show.

A result of too much "drills" and no match day action. He needed to give out all the stored energy.

enomakos:
not only manchester united and real madrid,juventus was also interested he moves to betis for the money,betis paid 7.5 million dollar for him making him the most expensive nigeria player at that time doubling the 3 million pound everton of england paid for daniel amokachi

Bros u still remember the amount?

Joseph1013 abeg confirm this sign-on fee from any of ur sauces

Icon79:
Sometimes the kind of argument I hear on this forum makes me wanna break my ipad, for real.

Who the heck says that Moses has largely been disappointing his entire career for the Super Eagles?
Victor Moses was our best player in the 2013 AFCON tournament - the last time we won the AFCON!

But what was his performance like after that AFCON? That was when he jst moved from Wigan to Chelsea.

We expected a lot from Victor Moses bt he didn't leave up to that expectation.

How was his performance at the 2014 World Cup? He was nt even a starter.

Btw do u mind if I lend u a hammer for that ur ipad?

bigblangston:
It was Bora Milutinovic sir, not bonfrere Jo... Too much football games dey dat body of yours

Thanks Bora "Multivitamines" it was. Mix up.

tbaba1234:
Finidi was ranked amongst the best for a relatively short time 1995-1997. He did not have the longevity of a Figo, Beckham... But for a period of time, he was amongst the best.

The thing is Finidi started small. As at 1992 he was still at Sharks FC in the NPL. By then Figo don win WYC in 1991and was playing for Sporting CP. As at the mid 90s Finidi was being rated above Figo.

joseph1013:
Here is a list of the greatest 50 wingers. Figo is 6th, there is no Finidi:
http://discusssoccer.myfreeforum.org/archive/the-greatest-wingers-of-all-times__o_t__t_47.html

This is a personal blog.
Not official.

terzurum5:
Wicked!!!

You made me look mad among my peers

Na the manifestation of Pep's "Training Drills" be that na. U no see Aguero and Fernandinho too.

Bt i still dey ask "na who Kelechi been wan beat among those Chelsea players?". Somebody say na Chaloba some say na Batshuayi cos na the only 2 small boys wey him fit do ogboju for b that. Him for fit face somebody like Costa?

enomakos:
you shall understands age what not on his side then
rashidi yekini remain nigeria greatest ever player and record goalscorer
kanu,okocha and mikel may be the most popular and most decorated but yekini is king

Yeah true.

Ikpeba was the hitman then. Yekini was at the end of his career.

No be say anything somebody like Ahmed Musa would not have made the starting 11 for any of the Super Eagles teams of 2006 & Earlier.

joseph1013:
Please can you show me anywhere online where Finidi was regarded as better than Figo. I've heard it since like forever by Nigerians but I didn't see any source.

Source?

Do u know how many events of the 80s and 90s that were nt documented due to lack of the internet?

joseph1013:
Babangida is a mere upgraded Pius Ikedia. Take ball, run with it with the head looking at the ground to the corner flag, and cross hoping for the best.

He's got nothing on Victor Moses.

Did u see Babangida when he was at Ajax?

Victor Moses' best game for Nigeria ever was against Algeria in Uyo. He has largely.been disappointing in his entire career.

Go watch Nig-Gha 2000 & see Babangida in action. Even France '98.

joseph1013:
Do you know Victor Moses is regarded as the best wingback in the world today? I will take a player who can defend, dribble, cross and score goals. He can player the midfield, defense and attack.

Bros, I take Victor Moses.

Too early. Let us see him maintain this form even till next season.

Finidi was up there for almost a decade!