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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:20pm On Oct 02, 2016

zoboizee:
@Icon4s
Simon is in the team for the Zambia match. He played today for Gent though they lost by a goal through a wonderful freekick. He was his old self. Quick, tricky & silky. Esiti & Rabiu also played. Infact club brugge parked the big bus until simon was substituted. He was the most dangerous threat for his team. Esiti looked solid too as a DM with good eye for splitting passes but not quick in pace. He moves like a slowbie(boss). Will prefer Ndidi to him.

Ok. Noted.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:13pm On Oct 02, 2016

forgiveness:
I thought you said only Kanu, Okocha and Ikpeba are only club greats. Chai! I don catch am.

Well, if you want to descend the laders you can add that Ahmed Musa is a Kano Pillars Legend, Vincent Enyeama is an Enyimba legend, Henry Nwosu is an ACB legend ati be be lo. grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:32pm On Oct 02, 2016

forgiveness:
Is Okocha regarded as Frankfurt great?

Sometimes I don't understand how you know much about Football but still don't give full details of the facts available to you.

So, you don't know Rashidi Yekini is Victoria Setubal and 3SC Legend?

So, you don't know Segun Odegbami is 3SC legend.

You never cease to amaze.

Yekini is a Victoria Setubal and 3SC legend
Segun Odegbami is an "IICC" legend

Just also like Christian Chukwu is a Rangers legend.

So what makes Okocha not a Frankfurt great?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:22pm On Oct 02, 2016*

Mickael2:
I have a few issues with your formation. Why oh why should we still be playing Nacho as a 10?! Some might disagree but he wasn't even among the top 5 players for Nigeria in that Tanzania game, why should we be playing him in a position he last played 2 years ago?! simple, if the coaches trust Ighalo more than him then he should be benched because right about now, Iwobi should have that 10 spot wrapped up, no need pushing him to the wings either. And you really want us to start Success? He can't start a game currently, he has been making sub appearances for almost 3 months so starting him is a bad bet, and with Moses confirming that he has a niggle, being a resident doctor, I know a little about Physiotherapy and I can assure you that he should not play that game in that pitch, that pitch is horrible and once he strikes his boot on the ground which is bound to happen in non-level playing field, then he will be out for six weeks, losing whatever momentum he has already generated at Chelsea. So Musa and Simon might just have to start and they can both be subbed in

Firstly, who says the last time Iheanacho played "10" was 2years ago? Was the last WYC where he played "10" not last year? How is 2015 two years ago.
Iheanacho played "10" in the Egypt clash also. I didnt watch the Mali and Luxembourg friendlies so I can't say what role he played in those games.

Secondly, The coaches, jst as TheGoodJoe had mentioned, have chosen to adopt the 4-2-3-1 formation (which is an attacking variant of 4-5-1) so as to fully optimise the attacking talent in the team. Ighalo has always been favoured to start as the CF, so Iheanacho would have to man the "number 10" position. Or would you rather we keep him on the bench and make him a like-for-like substitute for Ighalo bc he must play only as a CF?

Thirdly, the national team setup is different from club set-up.In a club if there is a defficiency in a particular position the club buys a player to fill that position. But in the national teams players are made to adjust to play roles they typically dnt play in their clubs.

Eg in the last Euros David Alaba, a LB, was made to play as the number 10. Portugal lacked quality natural strikers so Ronaldo and Nani were drafted to form the strike partnership.
Coming home Mikel plays a DMF at Chelsea but has played more as a CMF and AM for Nigeria.
Shehu Abdulahi is a DMF at his club but is more useful to us a RB.

Fourthly, Success should not start bc he has only come in as a sub in the last 4 EPL games? If it is based on that analogy then Mikel should not even be on the 23 man list.
Let me help you out on possible reason why Success may not start. "The coach may not want to start a DEBUTANT YOUNG PLAYER FOR A GAME OF SUCH MAGNITUDE. This ideology i also share.

Lastly, Simon is not on the 23 man list, Moses' availability is in doubt right now.Ighalo is out.
This implies Iheanacho is likely to play CF and Iwobi plays "10". With this our available wings options are now Musa and Success. If Moses does not make it Success is likely to start.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:33pm On Oct 02, 2016*

TheGoodJoe:
@Sir Icon4s,

You were right.

Coach Salisu Yusuf revealed that both he and head coach Gernot Rohr have adopted a 4-2-3-1 formation for the Eagles because that is what suits the team with the talent at their disposal now.

That means Iheanacho played ten in the Tanzania game.

Respect to you man. Not every one here has the boldeness to openly concede to an argument.You are a great guy. At least we are inching closer to knowin Rohr's stlye of play. wink

Iheanacho is really a great asset to the Super Eagles. With him in the team, you dnt necessarily need to make a substitution to change formation. He can play as a number10, Supporting striker or as a lone striker.

Success has proven to be a deadly weapon from the Right of the attack. Moses has been having a good run of play of late. Iwobi has been fantastic from the wings for Arsenal but has proven super efficient from the middle.

If we adopt the 4-2-3-1 against Zambia i would like the formation to look like this:

..........Iheanacho

Success....Iwobi....Moses.

If this team does not perform with this attack then we need to go beg "that mama we don put Super Eagles inside bottle".

Alternatively, we can make Success a direct replacement for Ighalo and the set up would look like:

..........Success

Iwobi...Iheanacho...Moses.

This formation would effectively utilize the potency of Iheanacho in edge of box shorts and killer final passes.
However, Success would be a debutant for that match. It is not likely he would be made to shoulder the responsibility of the lone striker for a game of this magnitude.

The earlier formation I proposed looks more likely.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:37am On Oct 02, 2016

NLban:
Ok. What I have done is to open different tabs for each and vote as much as I can.

is that not..................Ojoro?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:52am On Oct 02, 2016

NLban:
But you can as well vote for two simultaneously.

Please house lets push the two up at once.

But from the links provided i could only vote 1 at a time.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:39am On Oct 02, 2016

Napoleon55:
This ur list is even worse than the Clefstone list. It's now confirmed,ur comments] r just for fun.

Victor Ikpeba and Rashidi ahead of Kanu,on what level?
We r not talking 'bout d greatest goal scorers.

In terms of football achievements,

1-Kanu
2-Mikel

In terms influence and recognition,

1-Kanu
2-Okocha
3-Mikel

Thank you brother. This exactly is my top 3. I don advice forgiveness tire but him no dey hear.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:36am On Oct 02, 2016

Napoleon55:
Only one man will support this ur list,
I have never read any where Rashidi was rated ahead of Kanu,even ahead of Okocha

I just wonder.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:34am On Oct 02, 2016

Icon4s:
You dey find who wan give work thia night.Did you list achievements when u rolled out your list?

In no particular order I will also add Stephen Keshi, Sunday Oliseh, Joseph Yobo, Segun Odegbami, Christian Chukwu, Emmanuel Amuneke, Daniel Amokachi, Finidi George.

cc: goldfish80

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:07pm On Oct 01, 2016

clefstone:
finidi george for ajax. Not sure though

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:52pm On Oct 01, 2016

clefstone:
with all those club titles, Mikel is still not regarded as a Chelsea great except here on nairaland. It's not just about titles but contribution to the team matters more. Zola is a Chelsea Legend but didn't win a champions league or epl medal.

Please check out this site on ranking of Chelsea greatest. Ba comes ahead of Mikel. Haha
m.ranker.com/list/best-chelsea-players-of-all-time/ranker-soccer

With the exception of Kanu at Arsenal, Okocha at Bolton and Frankfurt, Ikpeba at Monaco, which other Nigeria players are regarded as club greats?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:46pm On Oct 01, 2016*

forgiveness:
1, Kanu Nwankwo
2, Jj Okocha
3, Mikel Obi
4, Vincent Enyeama
4, Rashidi Yekini
5, Rufai

is that your list?

That list is too poor. You know.

Now, highlight their achievements.

You dey find who wan give work this night.Did you list achievements when u rolled out your list?

In no particular order I will also add Stephen Keshi, Sunday Oliseh, Joseph Yobo, Segun Odegbami, Christian Chukwu, Emmanuel Amuneke, Daniel Amokachi, Finidi George.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:23pm On Oct 01, 2016

forgiveness:
Let me see yours.

check 5-6 comments up

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:18pm On Oct 01, 2016

tbaba1234:
No Abdul Ajagun , I am surprised

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:17pm On Oct 01, 2016

forgiveness:
1, Rashidi Yekini
2, Victor Ikpeba
3, Segun Odegbami
4, Emmanuel Amuneke
5, Kanu Nwankwo
6, Jay Jay Okocha
7, Finidi George
8, Mikel Obi
9, Vincent Enyeama
10, Taribo West/Daniel Amokachi /Sunday Oliseh/Muda Lawal.

Is this your list of top 10 Nigerian footballers?

This must be a joke.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:13pm On Oct 01, 2016

Men..the pages have moved so very fast in the last 48hrs.

Thanks guys for all the birthday wishes.

So many arguments flying.

But let me dwell on the Mikel's case.
I know a lot of u guys expected so much from Mikel. More so that he was 2nd best player just behind Messi at the WYC. U should even ask urself "where is Taye Taiwo that came third".

You feel Mikel should probably be 1 step behind the likes of Messi, Ronaldo or Neymer right? But football is not like that.

I can categorically say it here that only 2 Nigerian players are regarded greater than Mikel in terms of status, recongnition, contribution to club and national teams and club and national team achievements. They are Nwankwo Kanu and JJ Okocha.

Mikel to me is the 3 greatest. Vincent Enyeama and Rashidi Yekini come next in that order.Peter Rufai follows.

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Sports › Re: Nigeria Vs Brazil FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup 0 - 1 (Full Time) by Icon4s(m): 12:57pm On Sep 30, 2016

So who has the broadcast right to this one now. DSTV or Stratimes? undecided

Crime › Re: Cultists Kill University Graduate In Benue And One Other (PHOTOS) by Icon4s(m): 12:51pm On Sep 30, 2016

small smal boys.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:30pm On Sep 30, 2016

ChrisKels:
Happy birthday Sir Icon4s. May God bless your new year.

Thanks bro and i say amen to that.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:25pm On Sep 30, 2016

OdenigboAroli:
HBD,Icons. Drink up.

Thanks bro. As if you know. TGIF so no dulling. wink

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:24pm On Sep 30, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

Happy Birthday Sir Icon4s. May God bless you and give lots of reasons to celebrate his goodness in your life.

May good health, long life and prosperity always stay with you.

Thanks for the E-cake. What of the E-fish.

Thanks TheGoodJoe.The fish is not to be shared. For my belle only. cool

You are a great guy.I hope to meet you in person one day. You stay in PH right?

Maybe we can package a tv debate program and look for sponsors. We can start with Forgiveness vs Safarigirl. grin

That studio no go contain dem o. grin

Thanks once again bro.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:20pm On Sep 30, 2016

chrisooblog:
happy birthday to a boss and senior gunner Sir Icon. wish you more blessed, successful, healthy trophy laden years ahead.

Thanks bro. Amen to all.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:19pm On Sep 30, 2016

goldfish80:
Happy birthday to you!! Wish you all the best. Hats off

Thanks bro. I have always loved ur contributions here. Welldone.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:17pm On Sep 30, 2016

confun:
hbd oga icon, llnp, enjoy your day and have a blast......

Thanks madam. God bless you.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:17pm On Sep 30, 2016

bigblangston:
Happy birthday to you Dr.Icon4s, the living ancestor of Nigeria football. Wenger should give you the EPL trophy to celebrate your birthday. LLNP!!! More words to type on your phone keypads, really wished I got to know you before the demise of kickoffnigeria

Thanks bro. I no be doctor o. Atleast not yet.

Wenger must win EPL this year o. He has d squad. No excuse.

You too dey kickoff before. Mennn... dat site was not for gentle men o. It was more for bashing and bragging. I missed it sha. grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:13pm On Sep 30, 2016

TheSuperNerd:
Happy Birthday Sir Icon4s..... Wow! How time flies....

And Sir Joseph1013, You're so on point.... Lol...

Sir Icon4s is an Arsenal fan, Sir Tbaba1234 is also an Arsenal fan. I think Sir Edi287 is an Arsenal fan also. A lotta Arsenal fans on here..... Lol... Even Amagunnerfan... I can tie most of the forumites here to certain clubs coz some of them have revealed so in the past OR if one read between the lines....

Have a super birthday Sir Icon4s..... "Oga Experience", The Guardian of the halls of "Experience"....

Honestly, I wish you all the very best and the grace to continue to be the best Dad and husband you gotta be and can be coz I know "parenthood" is possibly the the most important "job" in the world... Building and nurturing lives for the next generations...

Wish you the best in all other aspects of life also.... Godspeed.

Thanks man... .The Super researcher of young talents.
If you cut through my skin, it will bleed Arsenal.
Joseph was right i no wan argue today. Na TGIF mood i dey. wink

Once again thanks for the birthday wishes.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:09pm On Sep 30, 2016

joseph1013:
Happy birthday, bro. I can see you have intentionally avoided the debate about your club.

Enjoy your day!

Thanks! As if you know. I have decided to stay off arguments today. I no wan spoil my mind. TGIF tings....loading wink

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:55am On Sep 30, 2016

Hello guys, its my day. cool

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Sports › Re: Fellow Nairalanders Vote Iheanaco For Golden Boy Award 2016 by Icon4s(m): 8:35pm On Sep 29, 2016

Is it by voting?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:23pm On Sep 29, 2016

safarigirl:
Iwobi wouldn't make City's first 11 either. That is also a fact.

So before we all jump on the Iwobi is better than Kelechi bandwagon, let us remember who they have to bench.

Iwobi is benching Ox, Kelechi will have to bench Aguero, hardly the same class of players,.

Why are we even having this argument? Pitting brothers against each other...mtchew, please let's leave Iwobi and focus on the Kelechi vs Rashford arguments. Who's that person that said Iwobi will win CAF APOTY before Kelechi? Na you start this rubbish argument.

The thing is the two clubs don't play same way. Iwobi is a product of Arsenger's philosophy of play. Iwobi may not easily fit into Pep's city stlye.

Just like Alexis, Carzola and Ramsey will find it difficult playing under Mourinho due to the way they freely express their playing skills.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:48pm On Sep 29, 2016

forgiveness:
I no know but as you talk na em I come sabi.

Make dem no go spoil d boy career by creating enemies for him, abeg .

No. That one no fit spoil him career. Iheanacho's career has jst started. Lets hope he maintains descipline and grows in the game.

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