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TheGoodJoe:

The thing is settled. You just want to prolong a finished argument.

ChrisKels:
Seeing Ikorodu versus Rangers match now. Scoreline 0:2 in Favour of Rangers. Obinna NWOBODO is a class apart. Afor muru gi, muru onye egwu

goldfish80:
Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Enugu Rangers is another champion

forgiveness:
e pain am!

goldfish80:
Obinja is right among the cream de la creame of naija talents. He is a marvel to watch in midfield.
Whats the scores please?

TheGoodJoe:
I do not know, please enlighten me, so I do not deviate.

forgiveness:
Joel Asoro and Joshua Maja should be invited to the National team with immediate effect.

TheGoodJoe:

Yes, I started the ball playing defenders talk here. I watched Ekong at the Olympics and that was what impressed me. The way he helped the team build up attacks and the way he helped the team keep possession.

If we hang on just the stats, goldfish80 dropped, then we will say Ekong's ball playing ability is a myth. That is not true.

Omeruo is a ball playing defender but his passing stats is lower than Balogun. So we should say Omeruo's ball playing ability is a myth?

From what I see, it relies more in the set up of the team. The post I posted earlier showed a ball playing drill Rohr carried out. It shows he wants control and play from his defenders. That is enough to show I was right pointing out his preference of ball playing defenders.

I do not think anyone should not like someone trying to understand how a coach plays. I am trying to understand Rohr, so I can know what to expect from him.

My assessments might be wrong but how can I know if I do not try to understand him.

As I said, we will understand him with more games. I have said what I have noticed so far.

If you notice different, you can share. Just as you said Iheanacho played a deeper role. I did not see me questioning you suggesting that.

TheGoodJoe:

Did I say training conditions are the same? It is a good way to screen and select players. Just like the drill I highlighted there. If a player can not do it in training, he can not do it in match conditions.

Just like our U17 screening starts with drills before match settings. Just like a team must train before the coach releases his starting line-up.

Training drills are important. I prefer a coach who has drills in his locker to select his squad.

TheGoodJoe:

I did not say Coach Rohr is a 4-3-3 coach. I actually said 4-4-2 attacking formation, similar to Arsene Wenger's invincible team. Remember, it came up during what role Iheanacho played. I said he played as a support striker and you said he played as a ten.

We say we will understand him more with more games from him. I wonder how you find that a problem.

goldfish80:
Anyone can do anything in training. On match day it's a different ball game.
I've seen plays who play like demons in training but are sh!t on match days. Training is training, match is match.
His 75% pass completion rate for a well coached, ball playing, high pressing side like Mainz isn't enough for me to make back flips. Sorry.

TheGoodJoe:
Squawka Football
@Squawka 8 months

Aleksandar Kolarov's first half by numbers:

56% pass accuracy
0 crosses completed
0 interceptions
0 aerial duels

This was one of Kolarov's stats 8 months ago. I guess with that, you will say Kolarov Is not a great ball playing defender. Meanwhile he is a brilliant one.

You can not pull out a stat and say he is not a great ball playing defender.

When we talk of ball playing, it is not just about passes but comfort with the ball. The ability to express with the ball and making incisive runs to help build up play.

In the Tanzania match, Leon Balogun was exceptional with the ball. I have not seen a defensive pair that good on the ball since I started watching Nigeria. (Sir Icon4s do not attack me, I did not watch the late eighties flying eagles)

You can not say Leon Balogun's ball playing ability is myth. He plays comfortably as a right back.

OdenigboAroli:
That's the competition we have been longing for,because some guys are beginning to get complacent. We need these competition to bring out the best in them.
Even for Mikel,if he keep sitting in the bench ain't no telling what will become of his place in the Super Eagles starting line up. There is new Sherrif in town.


How do you see this line up. I will have Iheanacho playing as a false 9.Iwobi attcking MD. Ndidi will sit deep and soak up the pressure while Okechukwu enforces the Midfield.

..............................................Ikeme......................................
MM........................Ekong....Balogun......................Echiejile

................................Ndidi....Okechukwu..............................

............................................Iwobi..........................................


Isaac...............................Iheanacho..........................Moses

OdenigboAroli:
English people will forever regret losing Iwobi to Naija. Currently there is no English player more gifted than Iwobi....That boy is an asset. He will definitely suit the Barca style of play...lol

TheGoodJoe:

Omeruo is not as good as Leon Balogun in ball playing but he can adapt. Remember he used to play as a right back. I hope Rohr invites Awaziem to participate in camp.

Sad we will really miss the refreshing ball playing displays of Balogun.

TheGoodJoe:
For Osimhen, everybody knows he is one for the future, it’s not to his best interest if he is once again called up and later dropped from the match day squad. He will definitely be involved with the team in subsequent games but for this tie, we need players with big game experience.

Awaziem is another for the future, the dicey nature of the clash against Zambia made his omission a no brainer. Kenneth Omeruo took his place. You can’t place them on same level when you are talking experience

Is Rohr the white version of Icon4s?

chrisooblog:
Guy you sef see am. Na real nawa for forgiveness. Because his favourite players were not called.

ChrisKels:
There were these super analysts back then in kickoffnigeria, please if any of u is here, indicate. I have really missed reading through ur analysis ever since kickoffnigeria was closed down. DeNonso1, Game147, Collynzo2 etc.

I suspect sir Forgiveness is DeNonso1 because he always has a different view from others like DeNonso1 was back then.


Game147, a once school mate to Bartholomew Ogbeche in FGC okigwe. U always bared ur mind like Sirgoodjoe is always doing here though I doubt u same person bkus u ought to be younger than joe

TheGoodJoe:

I feel the Nwakali brothers will overtake Ndidi for the deeper roles later.

Guardiola still has interest in Chidi. If he works with Guardiola, then we will have a gem. The few weeks at the Campus with Guardiola fired him up.

TheGoodJoe:

I hope Osimhen developes fast too. I believe he is the last piece of the puzzle of the League Of Extraordinary Hitmen.

...........................Osimhen(CF)
.........Success(SS).............Iheanacho(SS)
...........................Iwobi(AMF)

I see this as the future of the Super Eagles by 2018. But, Osimhen has to pull one hell of a season at Wolfsburg to make the 2018 team. A tough task but he can achieve if he works really hard.

tbaba1234:
How Do You Invite Players? Turkish Journalist Questions Invitation Of Musa Mohammed

Highly respected Turkish journalist Adnan Adem has questioned the rationale behind the invitation of Musa Mohammed to the Super Eagles, ahead of Nigeria’s first World Cup 2018 qualifiers against Zambia in Ndola.

19 year old Musa was once again included in the list of players called up by the coach of Nigeria Gernot Rohr for the game on the 9th of October, maintaining his spot in the team after his first competitive debut against Tanzania.

Musa Mohammed plays in Turkey for Istanbul Basaksehir, same country where Adnan is highly respected for his coverage of the league and it’s players.

The former Nigeria U-17 and 20 captain is yet to make a single league appearance since joining Turkish side Istanbul Basaksehir last summer, but keeps getting invited to the Nigeria senior national team.

Adnan said Musa Mohammed is in the league of players who were highly rated when they first arrived but after few months are viewed as flops.

” How do players get invited to the senior national team of Nigeria?. He is yet to play a single minute of league football in over a year. As a matter of fact, he is yet to make the match day squad for any of their games in all competition” Adnan said.

” He is presently third choice right full back if not fourth, someone they even tried to terminate his contract this summer. He has played more games for Nigeria than he has played for his club in over a year. How does he get invited?.”

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/09/23/how-do-you-invite-players-turkish-journalist-questions-invitation-of-musa-mohammed/

tbaba1234:
Win all home games and 1 away game and we are through... 12 points should be enough

TheGoodJoe:


He can not say that about you. It was a slip of the keyboard.

You once said Ighalo was not experienced enough for what the Super Eagles need upfront and I argued with you. With development going on in Ighalo's play, I can see your point.

So if you think an EPL club's regular starter is not experienced enough and needs more time to become Super Eagles quality, how can you call for an Academy player.

BascoVanVeli:
Glad to see Isaac Success finally getting his call up.

forgiveness:
@bolded is hilarious and got me cracking.


However, your point can't annul the facts on ground.

TheGoodJoe:

I believe you feel this squad needs time before we can celebrate them as Super Eagles quality. You see this as a building process of the Super Eagles.

I think this set can make us proud.

TheGoodJoe:


He can not say that about you. It was a slip of the keyboard.

You once said Ighalo was not experienced enough for what the Super Eagles need upfront and I argued with you. With development going on in Ighalo's play, I can see your point.

So if you think an EPL club's regular starter is not experienced enough and needs more time to become Super Eagles quality, how can you call for an Academy player.

forgiveness:
Such as..... I will like you to list 'your favourite players'

You mean 'Anderson Esiti doesn't deserve a call us?

Rorh was not employed by himself, he was employed by the technical committee , who are dey?

Afterall, the list released for the Tanzania match, we learnt didn't come from Rorh. As you can see, na still d same list with small changes.

'sentiments' U mean sentiments in calling for a player who warm the bench over players playing regularly or you clamouring for an acedemy player over a professional footballer! we know you are the subject of that actions.

Now that is what I call sentiment but you no dey see.

At the time of our debate, you suggested Brown Ideye should be dropped for Isaac Success when Success did nothing special. So, nothing dey obvious to see biko.


The list would have been perfect if Shehu Abdullahi and Jamiu Alimi were not called because based on current form Kenneth Otigba and Brain Idowu are better.

Sir, tell me something I no know.

forgiveness:
Hehehe! It is just that I noticed shumbody don know say he will be invited. I no call name oooo.


Apart from that, I don't have any problem with his in invitation. That's all.

bigblangston:
An offensive setup and nicely done but we have to realise that we are playing in faraway Zambia where everything including the atmospheric condition may be setup in a way to thwart our ambition of progressing to the WC tourney. The Zambians are known to play beautiful football in the presence of their fans and they will have to appease their fans for their failure to qualify for AFCON, So they will go gun blazing at us but we can turn that to our advantage by trying to be conserved with our approach by using 4-5-1 formation. This formation help us to soak the pressure from the Zambian team which in turn frustrate the zambian team and add a lot of pressure on them then errors set in. Then we can turn that to our advantage but our striker should be known for burying half chance when it presents itself which I know kelechi is capable of doing perfectly. Success should stick to the flanks if the 4-3-3 is eventually used.

TheGoodJoe:
I propose we go with a 4-3-3 formation. An attacking line up with three forwards.

----------------------------------Carl Ikeme(GK)----------------------------------------
---------------------Ekong(CB)----------------Balogun(CB)------------------
M. Mohammed(RB)----------------------------------------------------Echiejile(LB)
----------------------------------------Onazi(DMF)----------------------------------------------
-------------------Iwobi(CMF/AMF)-------------Mikel(CMF/AMF)-----------------
---------------V. Moses(SS)-------------------------------------------Success(SS)
-------------------------------------------Iheanacho(CF)----------------------------------

Left back is a challenge for me because I do not trust Echiejile's crosses and tracking back. I put his name there because of his experience and I have not watched much of Madu's defending.

A lot of us hurled criticism at V. Moses because of his stingy play. However, he can become an asset with more license to attack. Instead of sticking to the flanks to cross and pass, a combination of three skillful strikers will bring out the best in Moses. We will see them exchange brilliantly close to goal and cause Zambia problems.

Mikel and Iwobi have the duty of disciplined play and key passes to unlock the opponents defence.

Onazi must stick to his disciplined play as he did against Tanzania. The setup is offensive and a stable defensive midfielder is crucial to prevent counter attacks.

Rohr should reduce the forward play of Echiejile to reduce the work he does to track back. Onazi should fill gaps.

cc: Icon4s, tbaba1234, TheSuperNerd, lakesidepapa, safarigirl, Joseph1013, confun, goldfish80, Mickael2, forgiveness, chrisooblog, lexyman, amagunnerfan, zicky, HZwriters, bigblangston etc.