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Sports › Re: The Golden Eaglets Of Nigeria Thread: U-17 World Cup (India 2017) by Icon4s(m): 9:03pm On Jul 16, 2016

TheGoodJoe:
Yet someone wants us to believe there is no team. I tire. Congrats young cats. This is the beginning of your greatness.

Nice one, Coach Manu Garba.

....just to prove a pt if another player later joins d "team"

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 7:10am On Jul 16, 2016

terzurum5:
Believe me, even if Nigeria where the ones hosting the Olympics games these Clubs would not have done otherwise.

I sense the NFF did not d o their home work properly for the release of some of our players for the tournament.

The NFF most of the time see successes of most of our national teams as that of the Coaches.

The NFF seems to be a house divided against itself.

Yeah u have a point here.

But branding plays a vital role here.

In football Brazil is a bigger brand than Nigeria coupled with d fact that they are d host, jst like TheGoodJoe put it. Clubs would tend more to respect the call of Brazil to release players.

Another pt is that a player featuring for Brazil in a major tourney would add value to dat player in d transfer market. Brazil is a team everybody would want to watch and so clubs would be willing to advertise their players in d colours of Brazil.

The Nigerian Jessey no get value again na, more especially with that white band wey dem put on the green jerssey angry

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:59am On Jul 16, 2016

safarigirl:
did I mention your name? If you don't know how we dk things here, you better ask around.

I can solicit for votes wherever I please, if you don't want to vote, keep moving and don't quote me to scold me as if I just started posting here last week.

You've never been a recipient of my harshness, so I can't say where your hostility is from, but for the sake of next time, don't quote me in this manner again especially when your moniker is not included in those I mentioned.

See me dey joke around, dey ask nicely and pesin still wan find trouble, tomorrow one ghost reader will come and say "I don't like that lady" as if anybody on NL is feeding me, who your like epp? Mtcheww

Seems this one too has taken special likeness for you. wink

Those days when we dey primary school if a boy likes a girl e go first form quarrel with her then try to settle. All to win her attention. grin

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:57am On Jul 16, 2016

TheGoodJoe:
Brazil is a footballing powerhouse and, Clubs know they are hosting the Olympics. It is Brazil.

Brazil are in grp A and sebi we dey grp B. Henn... we must top our grp b dat o. Else na our Olympic party don come to an end b dat. Lets nt b deceived by dat friendly result especially with d crop of players that would b available for both us and Brazil.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:46am On Jul 16, 2016

safarigirl:
lol, no be small flexing muscle. His mates are going higher and he's being demoted.

Is it not our home-grown boys joining Leicester and Watford for record deals? Kelechi entered EPL last season and became a sensation in front of Jordon Aib, Iwobi flexing with improved Arsenal contract while this one that was forming baddo for us has reduced value.

How will he ever fulfill his England dreams in Bournemouth? Next season they will now sell him to Ipswich town

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:42am On Jul 16, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

When I said I wish the young man the best, I really mean it with all my heart. I hope he succeeds. He has my best wishes.

I am only pointing out that he was not all the Hype. I hope he works very hard and achieve a lot in his career.

That is one trade mark of the English press. They hype English groomed players alot.

If Iheanacho had been a son of the soil in England by now they would have likened him to another Maradona. grin

Me, I personally dnt rate English players that highly.They only have good development structure. The individual talent is hardly there.

Look at all them Delle Alli & Ross Barkly how dey flopped at d Euros.
See also how Nathan Oduwa of Tottenham Hotspurs performed below expectation at d U23 camp.

When Jodon "Aib" chosed to play for England i personally cared less. We have more talented home raised teenagers rising up d laders.

I join u in wishing him the best in life.

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Sports › Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by Icon4s(m): 6:30am On Jul 16, 2016

BascoVanVeli:
Don't mind Funsho, he is a great talent but very naughty.

Bamgboye was d only foreign based player in that squad.

He contributed so much to the attack with his aggressive offensive play.

His major down side is his lack of discipline.

I saw him in d list of invited players earlier on bt got fillers dat he is out of shape and lost form. This reminds me of what happened to Kabiru Akinsola aka omo Alhaja of the 2007 Golden Eaglets.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 9:32pm On Jul 13, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

If the coach does not see quality, then he would not call in anyone. However he must check himself. What we need from him is him constantly looking home and abroad for players to make the team stronger.

The key word is Stronger.

So even if he invites Ovie or Otigba, they will not be available for the coach to work with until they arrive in camp.

During that time, Coach Le Guen can continue his scouting mission for local talents who will make the team stronger.

He works with them, pencils those he feels will help the team. When the team arrives, he does the final screening and selects the best candidates. (Not forgetting to cap Ovie Ejaria.)

That is the normal thing. Coaches will always open camping with local players. Then when d foreign based lads report to camp the local boys are pruned down.

What i dnt want to hear is "we should rely more on the local players". Ordinary CHAN dey could nt qualify from group.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:51pm On Jul 13, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

While the foreign players are with their clubs, it is right for Coach Paul Le Guen to stay in Nigeria and monitor local talents.

That does not stop him from keeping track of our foreign talents. It is also better than a coach who will stay in Europe, collecting monthly pay and only come in during qualifiers and tournament.

I agree with Paul Le Guen here. When the matches are coming, he can invite the talents he spotted and work with them until the foreign talents are available.

I perfectly understand the pt from which u are defending Le Guen.Bt what i am saying is he doesn't have d luxury of time and games Keshi and Oliseh had to experiment on local players.

Nothing wrong in digging out local gems bt he must focus more of his energy on securing d foreign based talents. Like tbaba1234 mentioned Success, Odubanjo and Akpom.Including those foreign grown talents that u TheGoodJoe have always clamoured for us to cap. These are players i personally believe can offer more to Nigeria both on d short and long term.

To b factual, at d senior level there is not much quality in our league. I can only recommend those that are U20.

Sports › Re: Giwa’s NFF Appoints Salisu Yusuf Eagles Coach – Africanfootball by Icon4s(m): 8:31pm On Jul 13, 2016

So this Joker is still at it?

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 7:11pm On Jul 13, 2016

TheGoodJoe:
I just hope the NFF leave their ITK and allow the man work.

Bt they really have to let him know we are in a despirate situation.

No time for uneccesary experiments.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 7:03pm On Jul 13, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

I get your point and I think it the same with what the coach wants to do.

He will have his local talents in camp who will work with him regularly. So they can understand his philosophy and tactics. He already knows about most of our foreign pros. So I do not see the selection a challenge.

What I see happening is using breakthrough home based boys to make the team stronger.

Just like the addition of MBA and Oboabona made us stronger.

Paul Le Guen wants to know Nigerian football inside out. That is why he is talking of living here and watching most of our home league games live in the stadia.

He looks a serious chap and it seems he already has his game plan ready.

I wish we could see his skype interview with the NFF.

Yeah.

Sunday Mba, Ejike Uzoenyi and Godfrey Obaobona comes to mind.

Now, bt d difference between then and now is Stephen Keshi started his build up with weak oppositions. Keshi's first game was against Rwanda in Kigali where he drew 0-0 & was highly critisized for d teams poor play. He came back & won d return leg.

His next game was against Liberia in Monrovia he again drew & won the return leg. With all those matches against relatively weaker oppositions he was building the team. In between he also had CHAN qualifiers from where he really tested the home boys before 2013 AFCON.

The difference now is we dnt have dat luxury of easy games. After playing against Zambia in Lusaka we are hosting Algeria. If Le Guen adopts that Keshi's approach we would have lost our first 2 games before we identify the local talents.

The Tanzania game is key to our preparations. We need to know d squad that will visit Lusaka from dat game.

No game to waste.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:36pm On Jul 13, 2016

safarigirl:
thank God, you're petrobros. If forgiveness didn't b*tch, you don't get to b*tch in his favour.

The way you focus on just me, maybe you're thinking of a proposal

What an Epic reply. grin

But who knows u guys can end up as a couple o.

My wife and I did nt see face to face in our first two years in d University.(We were class mates wink

)

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:28pm On Jul 13, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

Well, from reports I heard, Paul Le Guen wants to run a regular scouting program of local talents to push into the National team. He plans to stay in Nigeria to become familiar and acquainted with the local talents.

I support him on that. Remember due to Club commitments, it is difficult for coaches to become acquainted with players. As long as in major tournaments and competitions we have the best whether local or foreign, I think it is the right move.

As for Coach Siasia, I believe we landed in this problem of a weak squad because of a bias screening process. There is no way a coach can not build a stronger defense with thorough scouting.

There is no problem with this approach. That is the normal thing every new coach does.

Bt what Barr Green is saying is he should rely more on the local players.

We have done this several times in recent years and at d end of d day we fall back on foreign pros after d predominantly local team starts on a low.

This has caused us vital pts in qualifying series. Eg look at d crop of players Oliseh started with dat drew away in Tanzania. That draw pt us behind Egypt before d epic clashes.

It is nt dat in our first game against Zambia we would field a predominantly home based team and lose. From their we will start d chasing game.

We need to hit d ground speeding. I thought dey said d major pt Paul Le Guen scored was dat he has been following Nigerian players in Europe.

He can as usual start camping with local players bt he should then invite a rich list of foreign based players. And then select d best from there.

What i dnt want to see is because we in a rebuilding process he'll now field one "Gambo Mohammed" that players for Kano pillars as our top striker.

We know d emerging talents of Nigerian football and Paul Le Guem should also know as they claim.

The qualifiers fall under d FIFA window so there is no way d clubs won't release d foreign players.

Nigeria is playing Tanzania in September that match to me should b a dress rehersal for d Zambia game. We need to field our might against Tanzania so as to assess d weakness in d team.

We need to hit Lusaka running.

If we start rebuilding with local players by the time the team starts gelling we would have crashed out of d qualifiers.

No time to waste as every game would b key

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:04pm On Jul 13, 2016

forgiveness:
Simon Moses not released! I thought Ighalo is not yet confirmed for the Olympics football game.

I think the first team set up is better but with the exception of Dimgba. I know wan see am there.

If Ighalo is not going then..

Imoh........... Etebor........ Umar

............. Ajayi

This team has 3 or more experience player. We can do something in Rio Olympics football game ooooo.

In the absence of Iheanacho, Success and Iwobi i feel we now really need d experience of Ighalo in that attack. I dnt have confidence in the crop of attackers available for selection.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 3:58pm On Jul 13, 2016

forgiveness:
Simon Moses not released! I thought Ighalo is not yet confirmed for the Olympics football game.

I think the first team set up is better but with the exception of Dimgba. I know wan see am there.

If Ighalo is not going then..

Imoh........... Etebor........ Umar

............. Ajayi

This team has 3 or more experience player. We can do something in Rio Olympics football game ooooo.

Simon is out.

As disappointing as it may seem Stanley Dimgba is abt the only recognised natural winger in that team.

Yes Umar. Aminu Umar is another good Am/striker but he is nt a natural winger same goes for Imoh. Sisia would nt want to field non-wingers in both and left and right wings.

I have seen Imoh do well severally on the left wing.
The Right wing is where i have nt seen any descent player apart from Dimgba. Aminu Umar can play in the number 10 positon while Imoh plays as a LWF

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 2:47pm On Jul 13, 2016

forgiveness:
Since, I have accepted the reality before me I want to present my starting eleven.

............................ Akpeyi

Musa......... Omeruo... .. Ekong....... Madu

... . .... Mikel

........................... Etebor

Simon.............. Sodiq ............. Imoh

........................ Umar

Modified

Note that Moses Simon is out as his club has refused his release.

Pending when d final list would be out this is my prefred set up:

......................Akpeyi

Musa..Omeruo..Troost-Ekong..Madu

.............Azubuike
.............................Mikel

Dimgba..........Etebor.........Imoh

...................Ighalo.

In d absence of Ighalo my attack would b set up in this form:

Dimgba.......Popoola.....Etebor

...................Imoh.

Mtchew. This team looks too average sef undecided

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 2:38pm On Jul 13, 2016

tbaba1234:
To be honest, i doubt any foreign coach can last in the Nigerian set-up. Only Nigerian coaches can keep up with the crap, partly out of patriotism and survival.

I have the same fear too.

My own is let d foreign coach jst qualify us from dat grp first. We'll know hu will take us to Russia after-words cos i know the NFF will as usual have issues with this new coach.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 2:35pm On Jul 13, 2016

forgiveness:
This Minister, if I tell una wetin em do eh... Una go know say em na....

First of all, is he saying NFF didn't inform him?

Or they wrote to him but he refused to approve it?

If the second question is what really transpired btw the ministry of sports and NFF, then was he expecting NFF and the team to wait till thine Kingdom come or after the tournament before he approves the letter?

I just no wan talk wetin..

All these are part of public sector bureacracy and tussle for power and importance.

They will settle las las no worry.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 2:27pm On Jul 13, 2016

tbaba1234:
Imagine facing a neymar inspired Brazil with that defence.. Avalanche of goals....

Imagine what a prominent player in our football federation is saying.

Sebi a foreign coach is coming let us see hu would raise all those "focus more on local players" nonsense.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 2:17pm On Jul 13, 2016

terzurum5:
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Focus More On Domestic Players Than Foreign Pros, Bar. Green Tells Siasia
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Nigeria Football Federation technical committee, Barrister Christopher Green says Dream Team coach, Samson Siasia should focus more on the players in his disposal rather than lamenting over the none release of the invited foreign players from their respective clubs in Europe ahead for the Rio Olympic Games Men's Football event.

The team's poor performances in recent friendly matches played so far has made Siasia developed some element of fear with just 23 days to the commencement of the showpiece in Brazil couple with the fact that he may not have a full complement of some of the invited foreign pros players.

Green insisted that the Football Federation had told him to invite players who he was sure would be released by their clubs in Europe.

"I don't think Samson Siasia should be complaining because it was clear when we asked him to select players who he thinks will be available for the Games. Besides, we told him to use players in the domestic league for now but must penciled down players in the foreign legion that he's sure their clubs will release them for the Rio Olympic Games," Green stated.

"Again the NFF are not relaxing too much because we are also working round the clock to ensure that clubs release some of these players for the games in Brazil. I am happy to inform you that we have started to get green light on the availability of the foreign pros and I am confident they will join the team before the games."
http://www.soccernet.com.ng/2016/07/focus-more-on-domestic-players-than.html
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Trash!

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:37am On Jul 13, 2016

Napoleon55:
Let's see if I'm right or wrong

U will b proved right bro. wink

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:31am On Jul 13, 2016

safarigirl:
icon4s abeg no dey encourage rubbish. It's not funny, it's annoying and pathetic.

Forgiveness please stop these blind arguments, they make you look like a twelve year old boy trying to tell his 70-year old grandpa facts of the civil war.

It's a sorry sight and i'm honestly tired of your diaper arguments. The seniors may find your antics funny, but that should make you worried because that means nobody is even taking you seriously. Your arguments are in vain if no one is taking them seriously

Not that i am encouraging rubbish.

See, one thing is we all are different in our own ways.

This is an open forum where people are free to air their views and opinions.

In as much as forgiveness most times takes his arguments to some extremes he has never ever uttered one abusive word. Not even when provoked. I love him for that.

If every1 has same opinion here then the house will be boring. Eg: Iheanscho is better than Solanke or Babayaro is better than Taye Taiwo or even Nwakali is better than Awoniyi wink

and every1 agrees, no one to dispute, u will see less of me here cos it is mostly those arguments that draw my interest here.

So our honourable First lady pls forgive forgiveness and b patient with him. grin

Some forumites do have 'em grin

His arguments can be funnily skewed most times but i will say he is a great guy.

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Sports › Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by Icon4s(m): 6:18am On Jul 13, 2016

enomakos:
you are right bro

what happened if victor osimhen is not available?will keninde ayinde be able to stepup

This y I advocate for the inclusion of the following strikers into the team:

Taiwo Awoniyi
Chidera Ezeh
Sadiq Umar.

With this we have enough fire power upfront and the coach can esily switch to 4-4-2 still with striking options to spare

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:18pm On Jul 12, 2016

forgiveness:
Since, I have accepted the reality before me I want to present my starting eleven.

............................ Akpe

Musa......... Omeruo... .. Ekong....... Madu

... . .... Mikel

........................... Etebor

Simon.............. Sodiq ............. Imoh

................ Ajayi........ Umar

Oga u have 12 players on the pitch.
Do d adjustment first before i comment on it.

And let me help u out with d goalie's name: Daniel Akpeyi. wink

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Sports › Re: Nigeria Football League Match In 1978. Throwback Photo by Icon4s(m): 8:05pm On Jul 12, 2016

onuleo:
what went wrong?

-Our best players started going to Europe en-mass
-U no longer See ur star players in the stadium
-Viewers attension followed the stars that went to Europe
-Who cares to see Gambo Mohammed, Kunle Odunlami and Chibuzor Okonkwo in d stadium when dey can see Messi, Ronaldo, and Rooney from the comfort of their living rooms.

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Sports › Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by Icon4s(m): 7:49pm On Jul 12, 2016

enomakos:
ibe tobechukwu plays right back

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 5:06pm On Jul 12, 2016

forgiveness:
Yes, that is what I am talking about. As at 1997 chelsea-football-club was a small club compared to Olympics Marseille the once Champions of Europe.

Meaning small club bought Celestine Babayaro at that time. While on the other hand, The once Champions of UEFA Football bought Taye Taiwo in 2005.

It was even right after Olympics Marseille reached the finals of UEFA Cup final in 2004 for the second time(1999).

As soon as Taye Taiwo got there in 2004 to fill the place of Bixente Lizarazu, he helped them to win Ligue 1: 2009–10, Coupe de la Ligue: 2010, 2011,Trophée des Champions: 2010 and UEFA Intertoto Cup: 2005 with the likes of Frank Ribery, Samir Nasri, Mamadou Niang, Hatem Ben Arfa, Fenando Morientes, Gabriel Heinze(Taiwo's rival), Mathieu Valbuena, Lucho Gonzalez, Andrew Ayew, André-Pierre Christian Gignac etc

He was even handed the captain's handband sometimes.

He was the man of the match in a cup final match.

Does that looks like a small club?

Abegi, people don tire with....

People don tire with what? undecided

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 5:02pm On Jul 12, 2016

goldfish80:
Bros no vex. You don win. I will heed to your warning never to mention his name again.

What a perfect gentle man.
Correct guy.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:30pm On Jul 12, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

Wow. That is interesting. So you are one of those Kanu carried into Arsenal. There was a massive support for Arsenal that period because of the Nigeria Golden lad. Nice to know.

Oooohhh Glory days of Nigerian football, Glory days of Arsenal. cheesy

It is often said if u are still a Nigerian Arsenal fan u are a survivor.

Series of heart breaks from both d Super Eagles and Arsenal.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:25pm On Jul 12, 2016

adrainuche:
Come make unable stop this kayode rubbish u na dey mad u dey talk of world cup qualifiers u dey call kayode a beg stop am..

Bros abeg take it easy. That's a big harsh.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:20pm On Jul 12, 2016

TheGoodJoe:

I just looked back on the Chelsea Arsenal squad list that Kanu Scored a hat trick against Chelsea.

The squad list on both sides were frightening.

Teams: Chelsea: De Goey, Ferrer, Desailly, Leboeuf, Babayaro, Petrescu, Wise, Deschamps, Le Saux, Sutton, Flo.
Subs: Hogh, Poyet, Morris, Cudicini, Zola.

Arsenal: Seaman, Dixon, Keown, Adams, Silvinho, Parlour, Ljungberg, Petit, Overmars, Kanu, Suker.
Subs: Vivas, Manninger, Henry, Upson, Vernazza.

That was a golden era of football.

That singular game was a major factor i joined the Arsenal fan club. cheesy

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