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TheGoodJoe:
You have to give it to him. He is one interesting person. I am struggling to hold my laugh in. Fear entered me when I saw 1923.

He never ceases to amaze.

Funny as it may seem. I like his never die spirit.

tbaba1234:
Even the 2008 team was better.

I am not even looking forward to the Olympics again.

forgiveness:
ni

Pointing a finger but 4 back to himself. If we ask you to pinpoint ethnic sentiments from my discussion you no go fit.

Something even the newest member of this forum knows.

Them suppose make you OFF chairman (O'dua Football Federation).

TheGoodJoe:
Forgiveness will not succeed in killing me with laugh. Look at the spelling of Vialli. Vielle. I hope it is autocorrect error because that is funny. I watched the guys. They were the bomb. Including Leboeuf.

My Wiki friend. Did you watch Marseille in 1923?

I say the one I watched. LOL.

just like how he calls Omeruo "Omerue".

Forgiveness is a kind of guy. All these Just to support his Taye Taiwo campagn

tbaba1234:
Imoh Ezekiel is the only person in that picture that looks decent. Hopefully, Awoniyi can pick up form before the tournament.

So many players in Siasia's team are looking for clubs.

This team looks like a joke when compared with the Atlanta 96 team. Mtcheew.

forgiveness:
I no divert anything I face them as they come. Na you dey always use diversionary measure e.g Ibrahim Alhassan came to the U17 camp and benched Kelechi Iheanacho.

Did you see ethnicity in my argument? Then, remove the ethic googles from ya eyes then you can properly decern btw facts and ethnic colouration.

My God!

You forgiveness brought Ibrahim Alhassan into this discussion.

Why all these false accusations?

If no one can openly tell u this I will. Remove ethnic sentiments from your discussions and u would b better of.

AIG07:
Laughing...

Reading through their arguments, kept me wondering why will you have to drag other unrelated issues in to ur argument to prove a point.

Sir. Forgiveness can be funny sometimes. well, he is just trying to be factFULL

That divertionary measure is what he uses when he is losing an argument.

Which Factfull? Facts that he reasons along ethnic lines.

divinehand2003:
Gareth Bake nko?

Who be Gareth Bake?

Napoleon55:
What sir forgives says baffles me also,let me not say everybody,imagine where he quoted himself said something like this "kelechi nwakali to me is not..." and then turned around and asked me where did he said that kelechi nwakali is not

I remember the "Kelechi Nwakali to me is not.." line vividly well.

This whole argument started with Nwakali vs Awoniyi, then Awoniyi vs Yahaya.
Before u know it became Taye Taiwo vs Babayaro, Awoniyi vs Success, Ibrahim Alhassan vs Iheanacho. At a pt he did nt even know what he was argueing abt

Napoleon55:
What sir forgives says baffles me also,let me not say everybody,imagine where he quoted himself said something like this "kelechi nwakali to me is not..." and then turned around and asked me where did he said that kelechi nwakali is not

I remember the "Kelechi Nwakali to me is not.." line vividly well.

TheGoodJoe:

Can Manu Garba the U17 Coach List his current team of 22 players?

Imagine that kin question. He is jst using it as a divertionary measure

Oya Ogbeni forgiveness, can u name d 22 players?

forgiveness:
Wilfred Ndidi - U20 Camp
Ovie Kandi - Arsenal Academy 2012 (before he moved to Liverpool) born in London
Chika Kandi - Chelsea U18 2013( move to Brighton and Hove Albion U21) born in Wales
Bernard Bulbwa - made the CAF U17 2013 team(Esperance fc)
Ifeanyi Mathew - made the CAF U17 2013 team
Ibrahim Alhassan - did not make the camp (God knows why). Wikki Tourists

Next.......

And ur point exactly is......?

forgiveness:
How many?

Wilfred Ndidi
Ovie Ejiara
Chika Kandi
Benard Bulbwa
Ifeanyi Mathew
Ibrahim Alhassan(Muazam)

cc:TheGoodJoe.

terzurum5:
Highly Rated Akpoguma Reiterate Desire To Play For Germany Ahead Of Nigeria
[img]http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/07/11/highly-rated-akpoguma-reiterate-desire-to-play-for-germany-ahead-of-nigeria/[/img]
Kelvin Akpoguma who was at a point in time called up to the Nigeria U-23 team has once again reveal his desire is to play for the German national team.


Born in Germany to a Nigerian father, the former captain of the U-20 team of Germany was among 47 foreign based players called up by coach of the Nigeria Olympic team when training started in 2014 but the 20 year old didn’t honour the invitation.


Prior to Siasia calling up the Hoffeinheim defender who spent last season on loan at second division side Fortuna Dusseldorf has told various news sources in Nigeria about his preference for the German national team even though he has twice visited Nigeria.


Akpoguma reiterated his hope of playing for the senior national team of Germany after playing for all most all cadre of their youth teams during an interview with German newspaper Bild picked up by Owngoalnigeria.com.


He wants to follow in the footsteps of Jonathan Tah who rose from Fortuna Dusseldorf to the national team of Germany as oppose to chasing a national team career with the senior team of Nigeria.


“The national team of Germany is my big dream, as a matter of fact no just a dream but my goal”.
owngoalnigeria.com/2016/07/11/highly-rated-akpoguma-reiterate-desire-to-play-for-germany-ahead-of-nigeria/

The Sydney Sam that Nigeria tried all they could to get but he ended up chosing Germany, where is he today?

Akpoguma be wise and tow along the path of Leon Balogun o.

forgiveness:
Of course, I have always maintained that Ibrahim Alhassan benched Kelechi Iheanacho when he first came to the camp and throughout his stay in the team which included the qualifiers where he became the joint top goal scorer with 5 goals, before he was dropped due to failed MRI test few days before the CAF U17 2013 tournament started. As you can see, I never said he benched Kelechi Iheanacho in the CAF U17 2013 tournament.

If we have to go by your analogy that U15 automatically formed the nucleus of the U17 team then it is safe and right to say Ibrahim Alhassan gate crashed into the already formed team and relegated Kelechi Iheanacho to the bench.


Is that not what you meant before I proceed further with my point?

Ogbeni u no dey tire?!

Abeg Forget all those Alhassan and Iheanacho argument. There is no point to argue abt or to prove there. They are both nt part of the Rio team.

What ever needed to be proven has been proven: Iheanacho plays for Manchester City while Ibrahim Alhassan plays for Wikki Tourists of Bauchi.

Lets discuss Siasia's likely formation o jare.
Haba.

forgiveness:
As you can see, 4 players can't make a team. Therefore, we can say those 4 players where drafted into the U17 team with other players on trails. So, there was nothing like 'Awoniyi was the number 9 when we know there was no standing U17' the team went through the process of substition by elimination. The 9 shirt was not guaranteed for Awoniyi. He also went through the phases. In short, Bulbwa was the main striker then.


MRI was not used during the qualifiers to the CAF U17 2013 tournament. It was used prior to the tournament hence Ibrahim Alhassan was dropped. The second MRI test was conducted after the list was submitted to CAF but there was controversy because Ndidi and two Nigerians failed the test.


Isaac Success played from start to finish in the qualifiers and he was the joint top scorer with five goals.

Bingo!
Hahaha u have found out dat Ibrahim Alhassan failed MRI before CAF U17 tourney after u repeatedly maintained he bench Iheanacho at d CAF tourney. Ore ma fi ara bale. Some people na encyclopedia of Nigerian football here o.

I also forgot to mention Benard Bulbwa among players dat graduated from U15 to U17. Some failed d MRI prio to d CAF U17 of which i cant figure out there names. So i cant tell u d number.
They are more than 5.

I wonder what u are argueing abt now because we already know that d MRI was performed jst before d CAF U17 & before d FIFA U17.

And of course u have accepted d fact dat Success displaced Awoniyi from d top 9 position.

So what is now ur argument abt?

[quote author=forgiveness post=47434480][/quote]Oga, where are we going with all these questions

Well, some of the U15 players were graduated to the U17. I know of Awoniyi, Chidera, Iheanacho, Obasi. Other players came from academies.

I dnt know exactly what number of players were graduated into d U17. U know some players failed MRI and some came from other academies. I was nt with d technical crew so....
Can u give me the number?

TheGoodJoe:
I say we should not wait. He is under training with a master tactician. We secure him in case he becomes prolific. So far he is good and can get better. I say we give him a call up and cap him. Add him to the pool of our promising Stars.

How many of such players do we want to cap?

Mayb we should organise an international friendly even if it is against Benin republic strickly for talents we dont want to lose to European countries.

goldfish80:
What if we are not leading, instead we are chasing a result with 20minutes to go. Would you be comfortable throwing the kid straight to the deep end? because you have already traded a place in the team for a more qualified player with an academy lad. Its not done anywhere bro....

It's best he's drafted to the U20. He gets to play in the AYC and WYC and get grow with the lads over there.
Trust me, England has no chance getting him snapped up. His family is totally focused on having him play for the eagles.

TheGoodJoe take note.

forgiveness:
Bros, are you saying the U15 team graduated automatically to form the nucleus of the U17 team?

Or some of the U15 players were drafted into the already existing U17 team?

Then if your answer is the first question, How many U15 players were in that U17 team?


Now number 2 question; If the U17 had already been constituted before Isaac Success came to the camp then;

i, Why was the camp still opened for screening prior to the first preliminary match against Niger?


ii, was Isaac Success grafted into the team prior to the CAF U17 in Morocco or was he part of the team that started the first preliminary match against Niger in Nigeria?


iii, was Awoniyi not grafted into the U17 team from the U15?


iv, which of these friendlies came first between Rwanda and Botswana?

Number three questions,

Do you mean Taiwo Awoniyi was the number 9 ahead of Chidera Ezeh and Kelechi Iheanacho?


Ibrahim Alhassan failed MRI test prior to the main tournament and not before the first preliminary matches that led to the CAF U17 2013 tournament.

Ibrahim Alhassan was the lad that benched Kelechi Iheanacho during the qualifiers that led to the qualification of the CAF U17 2013 tournament. We are talking about the process that led to the CAF U17 2013 tournament.

All these your questions are too many abeg.

Awoniyi was the top striker in the team before Success came.

Benard Bulbwa kept Iheanacho on d bench at d CAF U17.

Ibrahim Alhassan failed MRI prio to CAF U17.

Most of the U15 players were graduated to the U17.Awoniyi, Iheanacho was among them.

Note: Iheanacho was nt a number 9.

I cant remember whether d team played Botswana bt i know Success joined d team jst before the 5-0 & 4-0 bashing of Rwanda which which was before the first CAF U17 qualifier game in Niamey Niger where d team won 4-0.

Back to the argument:Isaac Success displaced Awoniyi from d number 9 position upon arrival at d camp.

And of coutse after several players failed MRI the camp was thrown open to more players. However, most of d players dat made d final list to d WC were at d CAF U17.

Which of ur questions have i nt answered?

tbaba1234:
At the bolded, it is not everyone that wants to play for Nigeria and is up to the mark that gets a call-up.. Siasia's Olympic eagles illustrate that. Politics and favoritism are still factors.

Just like no b everybody wey pass JAMB dey gain admission.

Let him measure up to the mark first and let d coaches and NFF decide on whether to invite him or not.

tbaba1234:
There is no big deal in dropping him.. I am just pointing out that he might be interested in playing for the country in the future.

Ovie's allegiance already lies with Nigeria. If he is up to the mark then he will get a call up.

bigblangston:
Lolzzzz!!! This icon4s won't kill someone with laughter.

See my brother, most of all those Europe grown players are over-rated.

Nothing wey person no hear abt players like Godwill Ekpolo and the other guy from Tottenham(forgotten his name).Modified: Nathan Oduwa.

News of Ola Aino snubbing Nigeria also came up over the weekend and I am not moved.

We cannot beg foreign groomed players to play for Nigeria when we have the most succesful youths system in the world. If we can well manage the huge talents we turn out from our U17 system every 2yrs we should be among the top 10 footballing nations in the world.

Is that Adarabioye better than the likes of Iwobi, Iheanacho, Success, Yahaya, Nwakali, Osimhen,Awoniyi, Chukwueze, Sadiq and d likes of them?

Best of Luck to him.

tbaba1234:
joseph1013, thegoodjoe According to MrMowiz...

Manu Garba dropped Ovie in 2013:

Mr. Mowiz ‏@MrMowiz 10 Nov 2015
Make I drop some facts jare,Manu dropped #LFC Ovie Ejiara & one Chika Kandi of #CFC for Iheanacho & co,today who is bigger? Manu was right.

What was d big deal in dropping the Ovie?
He was probably nt up to d marks.

After all the other guys dat made the final U17 list are equally doing well, if nt better sef.

tbaba1234:
Lazarus omission was due to injury.

Ok. I wish him speedy recovery.

Good for you op.

Not every1 will have a father that is that influential. I never had a father like such and thank God for where i am today.

Hardwork and due dilligence still pays.

U can still get a good job without knowing even a gate man.

Get ur good grades in school, prepare a very good CV, prepare for aptitude tests and apply for those jobs. Trust me, this seemingly trite method still works.

tbaba1234:
According to @mrmowiz on twitter, Funsho is yet to play for the under 20s. He has even gained weight.

"Biggest omission from the U-20 ahead of their game VS Sudan is not Bamgboye, instead it is Lazarus cos Bamgboye is yet to play for the team"

'@Sport_People_Ta @MrMowiz He has added weight, last time I saw him he wasn't moving like he was during U-17 WYC'

It happens. Not all U17 players graduate to U20.

So y was Lazarus omitted from d Sudan clash?

TheGoodJoe:
[b]Man City Whizkid Tosin Adarabioyo Turns Down Chance To Play For Nigeria


Manchester City starlet Tosin Adarabioyo remains committed to England ahead of Nigeria at international level, having recently snubbed overtures from representatives of the Nigeria Football Federation.

Born in England 18 years ago to Nigerian parents, the central defender has caps for England U16, U17, U18 and U19 teams but can still switch allegiance to the Super Eagles since he has not played competitively for the Three Lions.

Adarabioyo is one of the hottest prospects in English football at the moment and made his competitive debut for the Citizens last term, and was awarded the man-of-the-match by City after his imperious display in that game against Chelsea in the FA Cup.

“We have approached Tosin several times to play for Nigeria but I think he is very committed to his England experience now, ” says Team Nigeria UK chief David Doherty to allnigeriasoccer.com.

“However we are hopeful we will get a positive response from him soon as we are monitoring every progress of him.”

Tosin’s elder brother, Fisayo Adarabioyo, was called up for a training camp by Nigeria U23s coach Samson Siasia in December 2014, but the striker rejected his invitation.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel [/b]

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=19704

Wish Tosin the best in his career. We can turn our mind to others that want to play for us.

The NFF should ensure that Otigba gets a call up.

In future Some peeps will still blame the NFF if this one turns out to b another Alaba or Dele Alli.

tbaba1234:
Funsho has not been part of the under 20 team. Looks like Amuneke has dropped him.

Emm.. i think he was part of the camping earlier.

Like as if he sustained an injury.

tbaba1234, John Lazarus did nt start at RB today. Who was dat player dat started?
U can see the competition already.

That y i would want Amuneke to invite more quality players. Some of those his boys may nt b Flying Eagles materials.

Note that not every Golden Eaglets graduate will get to play for the Flying Eagles. It has always been that way. Some former golden eaglets players may nt measure up to feature for the Flying Eagles.

We need to assemble our best U20 players Home or foreign based.

tbaba1234:
The defense was leaking goals at the CAF under 23. I thought that was a poor tournament and i didn't see anything great from him. I am also skeptical about the ages of some of the players.

Look at Emmanuel Daniel, He was in Shooting Stars in 2010.. 6 years ago. That means he was at most 17 when he started with shooting stars... I find that hard to believe.

I am more comfortable with players straight out of academies to Europe or players that went through the MRI test.

Collectively d defense was terrible
But Segun Oduduwa and Sincere Seth were the better of the defenders.

U think John Lazarus would have donw better in dat U23 team?

As for d age issue, we are nt d parents of those boys so we cannot tell. Let us accept d ages they presenr and move on. Only time will tell.

As for Daniel spending 6yrs with 3SC it is very very normal. It means he has been with them since 17yrs which is d age K. Nwakali, Osimhen, Awoniyi, Success, Yahaya and co joined their professional clubs.

We can only hope they have declared their real ages.

tbaba1234:
The boys that started the game today..

Look at their baby faces, in a couple of years, some people will start claiming that they are 30 years old.

https://owngoalnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/image-65-750x350.jpg

See the number 4 they call "Paul Scholes".
The boys are really young.