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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 7:57am On Oct 04, 2015
BascoVanVeli:
What you are doing is mixing up stories Awoniyi helped get Nigeria the ticket to the AAG scoring both goals against Zambia. He was injured against Congo for the Olympic qualifier that's the only reason I could ever imagine him not starting Siasia confirmed this so where are you getting your information from? The boys were tired having just played a world cup na by force? I might have been wrong by saying the Kano Pillars got beat by 10 "academy boys" but i won't be when I say they were beat by 9 players led by an "academy boy". Senegal in the AAG was no tougher than their U-20 team yet it took one of those boys to deliver a goal at the end.
Awoniyi played the last 10mins of the Nigeria U23 Vs Congo U23 in PH. He was jst recovering from the injury he sustained during training. But for the second leg that was played at Point Noire in Congo he was fully fit.

I dnt doubt that Awoniyi is better than Ajayi. But as I said, the comparison then was as to hu to start the return leg against Congo seeing how Ajayi performed in d first leg and grabbing both goals.And it came to pass that Siasia kept faith with Ajayi, for tactical reasons, to start d second leg even though Awoniyi had fully recovered from d injury he sustained before d first leg.
That does nt mean that Ajayi is better than Awoniyi. Remember my first response when u said Awoniyi is better than Ajayi: I said "you may b right".
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:13pm On Oct 03, 2015
BascoVanVeli:
My brother you are so wrong, it is not a few people that completely blamed Manu for our failure in New Zealand. I'm guessing 90 percent of 180 million.

First of all Awoniyi would not only thrive in our league he would be hands down the best. I refer to the super six. Awoniyi took on two central backs each game never complained scored goals and was the best player. It is simple our league could not afford the boy.
Ajayi's price was 1.5 million if he was so good why were only African teams asking? No offence to the brother I do wish him the best, let me say that before I say this. In the game in question Awoniyi was injured that was why Siasia allowed Ajayi to remain in the game after missing i don't know how many chances. Even in Congo he was a suspect on alot of misses if Awoniyi was in Congo, as a matter of fact let me not go that far. Awoniyi got the team to Congo in the first place. This academy talk should have been thrown out the window when the Kano Pillars couldn't beat 10 "academy boys".
I made a mistake in when i was refering to Manu's case. I meant i was among d very few that did nt completely blame Manu.

As for the Super-6. The U23 team was represented by the 'B' team. The 'A' team which also had Junior Ajayi were in Tunisia on a 2legged friendly where they drew the first game and won d second.

As for Awoniyi helping d team qualify to play Congo, the first Olympic qualifier Nigeria played was against Congo.No game before that. Nigeria was drawn-by to meet d winner of Ghana Vs Congo.
The game u were referring to that Awoniyi helped the team win was d African Games qualifiers against Zambia in Lusaka.Taiwo Awoniyi was nt injured ahead of d second leg against Congo yet Ajayi was started. Awoniyi even played d last 10 mins of dat first leg though he jst came back from injury.

Talking abt academy boys, a good number of the members of that U20 team like Ifeanyi Mathew, Ifeanyi Ifeanyi, Benard Bulbwa, Obinna Nwobodo, Muzam, etc as at dat Super six were already playing in d Nigerian professional league. So nothing like "10 academy players".

As I said before the Ajayi-Awoniyi comparison was made ahead of the return leg clash against Congo - as to hu to start. Pls i rest my case on this.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 9:48pm On Oct 03, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
Ok Sir...... Good to have u back finally. *looks like u left my handshake hanging back there but it's alright* *smiles*

Alright people, here we go again....... *smiles*

Nacho lacks pace? Are u serious Sir?

Lacks power strikes? Are u kidding me?

Lacks ball-holding abilities and dribbling? Ok now........ I've had it!!!! *smiles*

I was the first to apologise for ur ban so it's only logical that I be the first to "boldly" say, "Sir, You're off the radar this time...... AND THIS ISN'T ABOUT OPINION BUT ABOUT TRUTH....."

You're right about his stamina. Maybe about his ground-stability( I.e. Centre of gravity), u're rite too.

But u're so not on point with the rest. Positional ability alone didn't get him that goal against Crystal palace...... Pace and quickness of feet played a role too.

It may be his first season in English football but he certainly possess some qualities that he's still growing into.

NOTE: You're welcome back. You have everyone's sympathy. You have my respects. And I understand everyone will wanna back off from u for a while thereby allowing u escape with these kind of comments........ But not me Sir. NO WAY.... *SMILES*

MAYBE YOU'RE THINKING IT'S ME RITE.............. Hahahahaahahhaha........

Ok, It's true we all have our views but pls let's not cunningly hide under that "umbrella" of "differing views are to be respected" and think we can make certain comments which can actually be countered with facts, proofs and statistics.

I'm not letting this one go..... No way!

Nacho deserves ur respect Sir. No pace? No Power strikes? (What was that which tim krul palmed away huh? A paper shot?). No dribbling abilty? Na wa o!

Here we go again.......
Pardon me Sir. I return d hand shake.
Talking abt Iheanacho, the attributes i listed were as compared to his attacking midfield team mates. Pls go back to my post on that issue and read again.
His current abilities may earn him a starting position in a mid or lower table team bt nt with this stars studded City side. At least nt yet.Except u are telling me u are rating Iheanacho above the likes of Da Silva, Sterling, Aguero, Nasri, Navas and Bony.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 9:01pm On Oct 03, 2015
BascoVanVeli:
Success yes but adding Junior Ajayi is an insult to Awoniyi. They are not even on the same planet right now or ever. Sure Ajayi is an hard worker but so is Taiwo who is more technically sound and also finishes better. Just my opinion i might be wrong.
Well, that is ur observation u may b right in ur own way.

Did u ever watch Junior Ajayi when he was at 3SC? He was already a pro-league player while Awoniyi was jst training with d academies, waiting for his 18 birthday to sign a professional contract as at when this comparison was made. In that return game against Congo during d Olympic qualifiers Ajayi was more ready for the game both tacticaly and physically ahead of Awoniyi.

Plus, my brother most of us watch match day action for at most 90mins bt there are some that watch these guys during daily training sessions. Some times actions on d pitch may negate or make positive actions on training grounds which is y i am one of d few dat didnt completely blame Manu Garba for the failure at New Zealand.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:25pm On Oct 03, 2015
linked:
On point. The premier league is so physically demanding.. Guess he'll adjust.
He doesn't have d pace, Stamina and ball holding capabilities of Sterling, Nasri and Da Silva yet nor the Dribbling, ball holding, stamina, ground stability and power strike capabilities of Aguero yet. But one thing I have discovered he has is good positional abilities.

This is his first season in top flight football. The EPL is highly physical, he will mature and improve with age.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:13pm On Oct 03, 2015
safarigirl:
Arsenal had the unfortunate luck of having 2 players sent off against Chelsea rather unfairly in their defense
Like play like play, Chelsea are currently battling relegation. Mourinho has been finally humbled.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:08pm On Oct 03, 2015
krattoss:
Personal me thinks that iheanacho should improve on his speed and stamina.

He hardly holds the ball in his leg, unlike bony, augero , and most of his competitors..

And also he needs to improve on aerial battles.

But I hope he improves with time.
Hopefully with time he will mature into d top EPL player we expect him to be.He is still work in progress. (Hope I dnt get reported for this again lipsrsealed)
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:03pm On Oct 03, 2015
safarigirl:
studying Law actually. Thanks. And as for Chelsea? 16th on the table is shameful at best, even Moyes didn't have it this bad
You see... I can smell one from afar. My youngest Sister is a Lawyer. U cant beat her in any argument. U guys have a way of turning an argument against an opposition.

As for Chelsea's case I wish they even relegate make person hear word.Let me c whether those there foul mouthed fans will support a Championship team. grin

It even måkes me feel more disappointed in Wenger. Arsenal remains d only team dat Chelsea has beaten at Stamford bridge this season. Wenger shows too much reapect for Mourinho.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:50pm On Oct 03, 2015
safarigirl:
I wasn't making any bad belle comments on Success regarding his club career and all my comments were '...in comparison to...', and I certainly left that in the U20 thread, but you've carried yours here and you have a bad comment for him at least 3 times a week, not in comparison to others, but to spite and deride. You can only imagine how everyone here interpretes these comments if someone reported you supposedly cuz of it. I was certainly never reported for my Success jabs, so it didn't read as yours do. I was really eager to get your reply when I quoted you on those jabs, almost unfair that I didn't get it
Did u by chance study Law or anything close to it? Cos ur comments can even make it seem as if the Pope is a muslim grin

Well my Sister we are here to discuss football. I should b d last person to have any thing against any Nigerian player.
It is my wish that Nigeria returns to its glory days in football. One thing i do and loves doing is following of Youth players.

I am the kind of person that will prefare to watch Nigeria U23 Vs Congo U23 ahead of Chelsea vs Arsenal game even though I am an Arsenal fan.

As I always say, every football fan is a coach; so we can not all agree on issues of team selection. And i will give kudos to u Safarigirl for ur level of followership and knowledge of the game for a woman. My wife for eg does nt even know d name of Super Eagles no 1 keeper. grin

In other news what da heck is wrong with Chelsea grin grin Hope they are nt relegation bound. grin
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:37pm On Oct 03, 2015
safarigirl:
na wa o, how dem go report you for Rule 2? Some people have no chill. Welcome back sha, was wondering why you've been quiet. And yes, your last posts on Iheanacho showed you don't wish him the best at all. Irrespective of what you really mean, what your comments connote is disturbing. Welcome
Madam, though i dnt wish to go back to what led to my ban but i jst want to point it out clear. I DO NOT HATE KELECHI IHEANACHO. What I have been saying and will still say for some time to come is Kelechi is talented but he is not there yet. How can u say I dont wish my own country man well? Btw with all the negative comments u Safarigirl have been making about Isaac Success will I now say u hate Success or do not want the best for him? I jst know its bc u prefare Awoniyi in that position and which is ok if u have ur valid reasons. I know u will equally think I dnt want d best for Awoniyi bc I rate Success and Junior Ajayi ahead of him.These variations in d wey we rate players will always b there so dnt feel offended if I tell u Iheanacho is nt yet in d class of Aguero, Navas, Nasri, Da Silva and Bony. That is what I see. U can rate him (Iheanacho) ahead of Messi and Ronaldo. Fine, that is what you see.

I know we all cannot always be on d same sides of arguments, we owe it to ourselves to respect each others views and move on.

U, Safarigirl even acused me of posting a provocative comment and pissing u off, U even made a comment and refered to me as something like "so called experienced expert" I had to overlook bc I dnt want to have a quarrel with anyone here plus I respect women a lot.And more so as u are d First Lady of the sports section.

Well, we are still friends and may still b on diff sides of the arguments.Thanks for welcoming me back wink
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m):
joseph1013:
Oga sir, welcome back from your self-styled exile. smiley

I have personally missed you.
My bro i didn't go on self exile. Seems like one of us hear reported me to the mods that I was posting provocative comments that contravened the nairaland Rule 2 of posting and I was handed a ban.
I dnt want to acuse anybody but God knows I jst came here to air my views as regards football matters. I never insulted anybody. Some of u even acused me of showing hatred on Kelechi Iheanacho.

Abeg guys have my arguments been provocative dat would warant my account being suspended? So we must all now agree on every issue?

I had decided not to visit this thread again but for d sake of some of my good friends here. Talking or analysing football is something I love doing.

We should all know dat we all cannot agree on certain issues in football bc we are all coaches in our various ways.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 12:28pm On Oct 02, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
Hey guys Happy Independence. But I'm here to drop a news that just came in on twitter.
Dele Alli has been officially called up by Roy Hodgson to the Three lions squad ahead of their Euro qualifiers against Estonia and Lithuania......

It's breaking news that's why no media house has picked it up just yet. Well, I personally wanted an Alli added to our pool of talents for the u-23(olympics proper) and Super Eagles but it looks no longer possible unless Alli turns down the invitation (which is highly unlikely).

The funny thing is Several english fans are crying foul over the overlook of Alli's tottenham teammate, Eric Dier but recognising (several doing so reluctantly) that Alli merits his place in the three lions squad.

So uhm...... The English are obviously out to "harvest" all our talents huh? Well, wishing Alli all the best. I think he may have a future with England because of his class and precocious talent. Not like some "good but not spectacular" talents of part Nigerian origin waiting for English call-ups.

As for Nigeria, well I'm glad we still have a couple of top talents rising in that position in midfield. Hope Oliseh spots them sooner.
Alli operates as a dmf or a Central midfielder so examples of such talents coming through for Nigeria include Ifeanyi Matthew(cmf), Akinjide Idowu(dmf and cmf), Usman Mohammed(cmf), Alfa Abdullahi(cmf and dmf), Anderson Esiti(dmf), Chidiebere Nwakali(cmf and dmf), among very few others.


ANYWAY FOLKS, HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY AGAIN. HAVE IT SWELL TODAY........ *smiles*
Well, the best players to ever represent Nigeria were neither English born nor tutored.

What happened to the likes of Efan Ekoku,Victor Anichebe, Sone Aluko, Shola Ameobi and Voctor Moses? These were English born/raised players that we held in high hopes but they turned out average or some below Average (though I still see some little prospects in Victor Moses).

England can take Dele Alli for all we care. We have enough talents within that age bracket.
Politics › Re: ‘those Who Invited Wanted ISIS Chief To Nigeria Arrested In Kano’ by Icon4s(m): 5:04pm On Oct 01, 2015
These Abokkis sef. angry
They invented Boko Haram. As if dat is nt enough dey are inviting ISIS.

Why are Abokkis so blood thirsty? angry
Sports › Re: Review Of African Players Performance In The Champion League by Icon4s(m): 5:25am On Oct 01, 2015
Ahmed Musa of Nigeria scores in 7th minute to give CSKA Moscow d lead over PSV.
Sports › Re: Arsene Wenger Doubtful Over Francis Coquelin Inclusion In Olympiacos Match by Icon4s(m): 8:35pm On Sep 28, 2015
No Wenger dont risk him against Olympiacos. We need him fully fit for Man U. A Carzola-Ramsey combination can do in d midfield since the flaming Flamini is also out injured. Arteta is a no-no.

Chamberlain, Ozil and Alexis will play behind Walcot. Monreal, Martesacker, Koscielny and Belerin will make up d defence.
Business › Re: Naira Depreciates By N2 Against Dollar by Icon4s(m): 7:39pm On Sep 24, 2015
We are getting there.
1 dolar will soon equal 1 naira as promised.
Sports › Re: What Is The Difference Between These tournaments, Please Help A Brother by Icon4s(m): 5:54pm On Sep 24, 2015
Raymondenyi:
Thanks:boss, but I no:really understand u sha.... will:appreciate if u can do better justice to it.., is the capital one not same as premiership? From your explanation....
oya sojas help him out again.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:43pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
Nah.... Don't worry about me dad..... I'm just fine aiiit.

So playing Nacho na experimentation? Na wa o!
Yes Pellegrini is still experimenting with d Kid. U saw how he brought in other 3 teenagers. He wants to identify future stars of Mancity and Kelechi belongs to dat category (future stars).
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:38pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
I KNEW IT! ! ! IT WAS SO CLEAR................ I just knew you were someone with a lot of experience. I know when experience talks....... Exactly the reason for all this conservatism...... EXPERIENCE.

That's why I termed you "Baba" Icon once, a couple of pages back. Holy moses! You must have seen the 1979 fifa u-20 world cup Live!!!!!....... Simply awesome!!!!

Anyway, that's what experience can do. I don't have that yet. But what I do roll with is 'Knowledge' which have respect for no age or era.


You've always had my respects Sir and you still do.........In fact, You'll always have my respects despite our differing views. I love the way you see things sometimes....... Only sometimes *smiles*
It's just that we live in an age right now where experience alone does not guarantee relevance coz core knowledge (including knowledge gained from observing other's experiences and the likes) is super vital. So what we the younger generation may lack in experience, we certainly make up for it in Indepth knowledge through study, observation, empathy, and learning thru experiences of others or otherwise.

It is only the vastly experienced man or woman that would say "...........I have been around for too long to know that this will happen just this way. There's nothing new here. I've seen something similar before" THAT IS EXACTLY THE BANE OF EXPERIENCE.....

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THOSE WITH EXPERIENCE LACK KNOWLEDGE..... NO WAY!!!!
BUT THE KNOWLEDGE VIA EXPERIENCE CAN MAKE ONE CLOSE MINDED INSTEAD OF OPEN MINDED....


PEOPLE SAY KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND EXPERIENCE THE BEST TEACHER.........THOSE ARE HALF-TRUTHS.

I BELIEVE THAT EXPERIENCE IS ONE OF THE TEACHERS BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE BEST. KNOWLEDGE GAINED FROM KEEN OBSERVATION, SMALL EXPERIENCES (WHICH THE WISE CAN TURN INTO IMPACTFUL MEANINGS FOR LIFE APPLICATIONS), AND CONTINUAL LEARNING IS A BETTER TEACHER. For me, as a Christian, the best teacher is the "HOLY SPIRIT" (Hey! I'm not preaching o)


AND I "STRONGLY" BELIEVE THAT KNOWLEDGE IS 'TRULY' POWER ONLY WHEN ONE KNOWS WHAT FACTS TO IGNORE.
Eg. Obodo, Oruma, Etim Esin, Aghahowa, Ikedia, Teslim Fatusi, Chrisantus, Lukman Haruna, Joel Obi, among a host of others are all "nigerian" talents that somewhat failed to hit the jackpot with respect to their potentials. Therefore Nacho may go the same way................... WRONG! THOSE ARE ALL FACTS BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO APPLY TO NACHO.


Well, Like you said, we all can't have the same views. But the truth remains truth even when nobody is right AND wrong is wrong even when everybody is wrong.

Sir Icon4s *salutes* It's been a real pleasure........

Godbless......*smiles*
Hmmm so u have so much knowledge of the game. Have u coached any professional football team. Ok any football team at all even if it is primary school team? undecided
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:29pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
So I'm not crazy..... This is weird. I'm not even watching the game coz I got some engagements tonite.

Why do most of my hunches have to come true? Pleasant or unpleasant.

This is really weird........

Hope Sir Icon4s is happy now.......
Y should I be happy? I have nothing to prove. It is very glaring that Iheanacho is nt much of d Super Star status as u and ur allies tag him.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:24pm On Sep 22, 2015
Orkpekyandega:
I was just asking my self if the same feelings that Sir Icon4s have been having hasn't come over you, 2 bad.


He can't be happy over that. 4 sure.
grin . I wish he had played all 90mins cos i would have liked to see more of him to better size him up.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:13pm On Sep 22, 2015
safarigirl:
wetin Pelle wan secure with Sunderland again? The boy is either sick or injured cuz he didn't even travel with em. Just unfortunate, but that's all there is to it. Nothing like Pelle wants to secure anything
Hmmm either sick or injured?
That's funny.

u simply cant believe our Wizkid will nt b listed for a League cup game against Sunderland.

I said it that i wont be surprised if he didn't start this match
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:11pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
Nna eh! Me self no understand o...... But really, what's happening? Why do u think Nacho is missing? Anybody pls help coz I'm really flabbergasted.

I don't know why that gut feeling came through when I can't think of any reason why Nacho wouldn't be dressed for this game.............. Except sudden injury? I just don't get it...........
My friend take it easy and dnt hit ur head against the wall bc Iheanacho was nt dressed for the game. Pellegrini went for his tested and trusted players to start d game. No room for experiments. He brought in 3 teenagers after securing a 4-0 lead. Probably want to see other teenagers in his squad.

As i have always said, Kelechi Iheacho is not there yet. He is still work in progress.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 3:10pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
Sir Icon4s, I know from your posts that you existed during the time Monday Odiaka scored the fastest goal at a fifa u-20 world cup. He went on to be joint top scorer with 3goals.

I know you witnessed live thru live telecast or otherwise, the 1989 generation of flying eagles stars with the head master Mutiu Adepoju.

I know you witnessed live the birth of Kanu, oruma, babayaro, etc at the 1993 fifa u-17 world cup. You were there when marco van basten led an impressive dutch side to conquer europe in 1988. You also probably witnessed Diego maradona's rise to godhood at Napoli. These and many more you witnessed and surely your experience cannot be disputed.......... But you seem to forget what playback video technology can do.

Sir, I was just 7yrs+ when I witnessed my first tournament. NIGERIA 1999............ I was so young but for a kid who started reading at age 3(2.5 to be exactly precise) I had an "interesting" kind of memory.

You seem to look down on some of us here as kids in football matters especially when it comes to soccer talents. Pls Sir, I beg you to reject that tendency. I've been privileged thanks to numerous soccer programs, tapes and the likes to witness the super talents that came far b4 my birth. I saw Raymond Kopa of Real madrid, Bobby charlton of Man utd, Alfredo di stefano of real madrid, ferenc puskas of madrid and hungary, kevin keegan of liverpool, eusebio of portugal(mozambican-born who scored 9 gls to top the charts at the 1966 fifa world cup).

I also saw george best at his best, saw Kenny daglish(the master of time and space utilization in midfield), saw Marco van basten, saw odegbami at afcon 1980, saw muda lawal, saw thomas nkono of cameroun.......... Sir, I can go on and on and on. I saw their worth, their talents and their impacts and achievements. I'M NO MASTER BUT I'M A KEEN STUDENT OF HISTORY INCLUDING SOCCER HISTORY.


SO IN ALL, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE BEING OVERLY CONSERVATIVE AND OVER-CAUTIOUS.......

IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A TENDENCY TO PERMIT A LITTLE ELEMENT OF PESSIMISM WHEN YOU TAKE THE CAUTIOUS OR CONSERVATIVE ROUTE.


OF COURSE, NACHO IS STILL GROWING BUT ONE WHO IS "TRULY UNBIASED" CANNOT DENY HIS SUPER CLASS........ He's talented you say..... Yes! But it's more than that Sir........ He's super highly motivated to do and undo.......

A bientot Sir and Godbless.......
Firstly, let me say I am not looking down on u younger generation, some times I enjoy it when I discuss with younger people It also makes me look at things from another perspective.

My brother, no body is a Master in football analysis. I appreciate the fact that you recognize my years of followership of the game of football. Yes I saw Monday Odiaka, Samson Siasia, Ndubuisi Okosieme and co play FIFA U20 (then U21) in 1985 wink

Just to reveal a little of my CV: I have co-hosted Rhythm sports on Rhythm 93.7 FM on several occasions, though I am not a Sports journalist neither am I a broadcaster-just on invitations. I am also a regular caller on Naija made on Super sports. I am very close to so many sports personalities(especially football). For the records, I played football with Emmanuel Amuneke at Adeleye Street, Sari-Iganmu, Orile part of Lagos. Those that grew-up around that area will probably know me. So I also played the game. Infact Obafemi Martins used to be one of our ball boys when we played at the white sand play ground in Orile in the late 80s to early 90s.

I was privy to reasons for which Oliseh did not include Kelechi Iheanacho in the just released list of players to face DR Congo and Cameroun. And the reason is not far fetched from my line of thought.

Football is one funny game. We are all coaches in our own rights. Our views will always differ.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 1:20pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheGoodJoe:
Pellegrini knows a Superstar when he sees one. I wanted to see if Pellegrini will see Nacho as a Superstar when he joined the Etihad Campus. Early on from sending Nacho to Barcelona Academy, I believed Pellegrini saw a superstar.

Now, Pellegrini letting Dzeko go and putting faith in Nacho shows that what I expected in 2013 is happening now.

The interest is there. So our suspicion that there is something special in Nacho is proving. Pellegrini has showed Nacho the rabbit hole. Nacho has to walk in by training harder than ever every day to get there. This is not a Joel Obi scenario. It is different.

You are conservative now. I was conservative when I was waiting to see if Pellegrini will show faith and interest in Nacho.
I love your patriotism my brother. cheesy
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 1:05pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheGoodJoe:
Blogging is not a new thing. I was listing top players in forums when Sanchez and Neymar were kids. I was watching a local program on TV in Nigeria '99 when a journalist said. This is Ronaldinho, the new Ronaldo, he will one day be the best in the world. Ronaldinhi was about eighteen then.

I watched a young Kaka emerge in 2002 World Cup. I watched a young promising Thierry Henry play alongside Ikpeba and Trezeguet.

So I do not know how you can school me on young talents.

I am a City fan because I believe in our project to dominate football.
My friend Blogging is relatively new. How old is even the internet? Except u are telling me I am discussing with a boy young enough to be my son.

Don't get me wrong. I don't hate Iheanacho. He is one of my favorite young Nigerian Players now. My argument is he is not jst there yet. I know most of you expected him to start the game against West Ham after he scored that goal against Crystal Palace. And I will not be surprised if he doesn't start the League Cup game against Sunderland.

He is still work in Progress, u guys should calm down. I have seen several African players start like this and they jst fizzle out over a short time.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m):
TheGoodJoe:
[b]I do not see the relevance of your post. Which of these players you listed here was listed by top blogs as one of the best players of his generation? None.

So what is the relevance of such list. Or are you saying because Nacho is Nigerian, then his talents and hard work is irrelevant. Then you are mistaking.

Why not write young teenage hypes who became wonders of the world like Henry, Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi, Aguero, Neymar, Ronaldo De Lima, Suarez, Ronaldinho.

CR7 was 17 when Mourinho called him the son of Marco Van Basten. Carols Queiroz called CR7 at 18 years the Michael Jordan of football. So please keep your pessimistic belief of your race to yourself. I have waited for long for a young African who believes he can be the best in the world.

Any young kid reading this, if you believe you can be great and you work very very hard to achieve it, nothing can stop you. Because, Fortune favors the Brave believer.

I watched Neymar as a young 16 years old kid and all he wanted was to become the best in the world. Few years down the line, he is close to it. That is the kind of belief I see in Nacho.

Nacho, Carry Go.
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The hyping on this boy is too much. Talented no doubt but I remain conservative in my expectations on him.
You are not wrong either if you rate him with Leonel Messi and Christiano Ronaldo because after all the English people hype their players a lot too. I honestly pray he turns out as the Leonel Messi of his generation but let me watch him for some time first. What I have been saying all along is he is not there yet. He is still work in progress. All those ranking and equating him with Aguero, Boney, Silva, Nasri, Navas are not just it.
Talking about players listed by Top Blogs of his generation, were Messi and Ronaldo ever listed by any Blog? No bc blogging is jst a recent thing.
And did you ever watch Obafemi Martins when he played at Inter Milan? Did you see Joel Obi play as a teenager at Inter Milan? Maybe bc Kelechi Iheanacho is the most talented young player You have seen in ur generation.

Kelechi is my boy, I know him more than most of u guys here. There is hardly any match he has played that I have not watched. I can only wish him well but he is not there yet.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 9:54am On Sep 22, 2015
There was a 19 years Old Joel Obi at Inter Milan
There was an 18years Old Victor Anichebe at Everton
There was a 20 Years Old Gbenga Okunowo at Barcelona
There was a 19 years Old Christian Obodo at Peruggia of Italy
There was an 18 years old Batholomew Ogbeche at Paris Saint Germain
There was a 20years Old Victor Moses at Wigan and got signed by Chelsea

There is a 19 Years Old Kelechi Iheanacho at ManCity. May he not follow their path.
Kelechi is talented but not there yet.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 5:58am On Sep 22, 2015
TheGoodJoe:
How can he not be there? Aguero did not score, I guess he is not there. Sterling did not score, I guess he is not there. Please. Michael Owen was seventeen when he started scoring for fun in the EPL. Martial is nineteen and he is making the EPL look easy.

Nacho is up to the task if not he would not be on the bench for City. Get it again, Pellegrini chose not to replace Dzeko because of Nacho. You do not get that statement. Dzeko is one of the best strikers in the world. He left and Pellegrini trusted Nacho to replace. That is enough to calm your pessimistic writing.
Bc he scored a rebound dat any City player could have scored if he was in that position?

I say again calm it Iheanacho is not there yet.
Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 5:51am On Sep 22, 2015
safarigirl:
oh, thought the Sunderland game is a Cup game
Ok. U are right. City's next Epl game is against Spurs.

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