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gambojimeta:
Well, looting is a war crime. That's the Koko. It doesn't matter which side it's coming from.

If Russia had not entered Ukraine UNINVITED, then their tanks wouldn't be dragged away by Ukrainian farmers.

Its war, its what it is.

The best is to avoid war, if not, there is no rules of engagement. All of that only work on paper.

mpire:
Hopefully boko haram with the Fulani kidnappers will attack your family, rape your mother, sister, wife, nieces and take them as spoils of war on their way to Chad after they've sodomized you.

Look at this nonentity, who takes you and your stupid emotional tantrums seriously? So, if we ever elect you as president or an ambassador, this is the agberoism and stupidity you will go and be displaying among committee of nations right? No, someone like you can never amount to anything important and serious ever in your life. So, we don't have to worry.

I am telling you the reality of war, you are cursing yourself. When the federal forces attacked your Biafra, it was your family they attacked, it was your mother they raped, sister, wife, nieces and they took them as spoils of war. They are scattered around the other regions of the country shelling out babies.

You will not even be sodomized cos you get to live, that will be too merciful. They will shoot you on all your joints at close range and leave you to die a slow and painful death, easily granting you your wish for yourself and your useless family.

sapientia:
MacDonald was first to enter when Russia dropped the iron curtain

They helped to improve the economy of Russia

Do you know how many western corporations in China and other asian countries?

It's called Foreign direct investment which every country in this world needs

Russia will welcome any company that wants to invest $1bn in Russia now so stop talking as if the companies leaving won't hurt Russia

It will hurt on both sides though

gambojimeta:
Motorcade of Shame

Meanwhile, Russian soldiers are busy stealing underwear and any other thing they could lay their hands on as they flee to the eastern side of Ukraine.


The OP is nairaland's number one mumu.

There must be loots when there is war. Loots can come in cash, weapons, properties, cars even women. Ukrainian army also took over some Russian tanks. These are loots too.

sapientia:
I will never support children suffering for the sins of their parents unless they are part of the corruption

They should go back to Moscow and invest in their country

All their investments should be in rubbles inside Russia

Their investments should have no connection to the west or EU

Let them do business with Syria and North Korea

Good luck to them

Pretty girls



Shekina

You don't have to have any business to slapped with sanctions.

joyandfaith:
They should go back to Russia. You wouldn't see children of most leaders in the West living in Russia.

Read!

angelfallz:
Next time gather evidence and expose that homosexual. Also, that your so called bestie, you better throw him into the Dustbin.

Also, even without evidence report him!

Let it be on record. So, that anyone else that reports him in the future they would be able to establish a pattern of sexual harassment.

This is the right thing to do OP.

abbey621:
Nah fam, NATO members are obligated to defend one another, it is the very foundation of the organization. An attack on one is an attack on all.

Yes, you are very correct. But that is in the impossible case that Ukraine is a member of NATO

Puremaker8:
Make dem settled
This is a war between US and Russia, Ukraine just been used as a battle field.

People don't want to understand this. And its not the first time a country will used as scape goat. Look at Congo.

abbey621:
Wetin you want USA to do? Fight Russia? Ukraine is not NATO hence USA is under zero obligation to defend them.

Even if she is a NATO member, US wouldn't risk a nuclear, atomic, hydrogen and supersonic missiles war. As both country has the capacity to take the war to each other.

And could effectively spell doom for the world

plaindealer:
Question.

What do you honestly think Ukraine should have done to prevent the Russian invasion.?

I think, Ukraine should have joined the European Union for the economic benefits and forget about militarizing with the joining NATO.

Alternatively, Ukraine can have a South Korea like protection agreement with The US or UK or France or the three all together, for protection against any aggressor as another option.

When Russia made her position known that she will take a military position against Ukraine if she does pursue joining NATO, Ukraine should have halted all the moves for the sake of the civilian lives. As against her adamant pursue of the military agenda.
Russia is a big fish, Ukraine is a small one. In this system, big fish eat small fish. Small fish eat worms.

A country like Nigeria wouldn't want to be at logger heads with US or UK, whether Nigeria is right or wrong, it will be a conflict we can never win. So, Nigeria will do well to tactically avoid conflicts with any of them.

Imagine the destructions in various cities and suburbs, the dead bodies and the devastation all over Ukraine and not a building has been bombed in Russia. The situation is just terrible and at the same time very avoidable and needles.

plaindealer:
You are of course entitled your opinion, but not your own facts.

The end of SU was the problem of SU, not the West or NATO.

NATO was not under any obligation to disband NATO just because the SU fell.

Why not just educate us about why the SU collapsed? It collapsed because communism was unsustainable and largely because the SE invaded Afghanistan and spent 10 brutal years in Afghanistan. By the end of the war in Afghanistan, SU was tired, broke, and unable to keep fighting. The SU was bankrupt and unable to keep the republics together.

All the Warsaw pact countries, the equivalent of NATO under the SU went their separate ways, that was when Russia was created and Ukraine became a surveying nation just like the other former SU republics like Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia, including Ukraine and Georgia.

SU fell on its own because of its own failures, ideology, and poor communist economic system, it was never because of NATO or the west.

Russia is doing the same thing and we can all read the writing on the wall.

The West doesn't owe Russia anything and Ukraine is a surveying Nation. Putin can huff and puff till eternity, he can not keep Ukraine, maybe Ukraine won't join NATO, but definitely will join the EU.

Ukrainians don't want to be part of Russia or even be friends with Russia, they want to be part of Western Europe and Putin can not do anything about it.

He already lost this war, Russia is already broke and almost bankrupt just like the soviet union, it's globally isolated socially, culturally and economically and the only major thing they have and sell is oil/Gas and their largest customers, the EU are about to stop buying their oil/gas, many countries can not trade with them, they are already experiencing food shortages and fighting over ordinary sugar.

Dumb Putin just made sure that Russia is in the same basket and category as North Korea, a pariah nation.

That clown gambled and lost so blaming the West for the SU's and Putin's gamble and idiocy sounds flawed and disingenouse.

We cannot simply wash the US clean off the fall of the Soviet Union. US was an active influence. The difficult Mujahiddens of Afghanistan were supported by the smart CIA. That is where Osama bn Laden got his first share of military experience. Soviet Union/Russia and US will forever be at logger heads. They had a long history of bad blood between them, any country thats smart will not come between them as a bait. Many countries that found themselves in that situation even during the capitalism and Communism struggle for control of the world ended in deep crisis long after both countries had left them. To me Ukraine leadership was not smart. It was an avoidable war. Needless if international politics was well played.

BotherMleeper:
Russia was never under any threat after the fall of the Berlin wall and the end of the cold war.

Glasnost and perestroika were the two policy thrusts that aligned Russia with the global economic and political zeitgeist....it took a tyrant like Putin, who's obsessed with the "mighty" USSR, to scare all his neighbors towards the umbrella of NATO, with his saber rattling and fervor for a czarist mother Russia.

All of Putin's actions and militarization and his statements about the fall of the USSR being the greatest political debacle of the century scared his smaller neighbors because they knew where his ideology and militarization was headed.

Why won't they seek refuge in NATO when their sizable neighbor is talking tough about a neo-USSR ruled by a despot?

Was this not history repeating itself along the lines of Nazi Germany and stalinist Russia?

Besides, the western powers were in no hurry to grant Ukraine entry into NATO in order to keep Putin appeased.

Stop buying into this revisionist fallacy of history that NATO motivated Putin: the man had always harbored delusions of grandeur, being so power drunk, and always hated and distrusted the west as vestiges of his KGB and nationalistic persuasions.

Putin was bent on reshaping the world no matter whether Ukraine entered NATO or not.

Russia was always under threat, the end of the cold war and the fall of the Berlin wall didnt happen with speed of light. A lot of events, conflicts and diplomatic meetings took place before these two events.

The fall of the USSR was expertly orchestrated by the US and NATO. You are vast enough to remember this.

Glasnoit and perestroika were the policy of the overwhelmed Mikhail Gorbachev who wants to end the restriction of USSR/RUSSIA and was willing to let go of the regions that were fighting revolutionary warfare with the Soviet Government. No thanks to the US and the West, who are obsessed with a unipolar world. The same way the west are worried with the rise of China now.

How is Putin a tyrant? What has he done that the west had never done before him? If he is obsessed with Re-Uniting with all former soviet member states, it wouldn't be now. And Ukraine is not the only country that was a former Soviet member state, so his aim is not to reunite with these states but to preserve Russia beyond the complexities of the US,NATO and western negative penetrative influence.

About his actions and statements about the fall of the USSR. No true patriot will be happy with the fall of the USSR. A union that had the potential to be the most influential, richest in resources, militarily strong country, ahead of the US. Was broken into pieces by the US and her intelligence after the 2nd world war. Through the period of the Cold war of about 50 years. And you think Russia will not be weary of America that did that to them? And you feel and sensible President wouldn't protect her country against such cynically destructive US who is ready to destroy the world to achieve her interest while presenting a saintly image to the press?

Russia had always been a military power even before the first world war. Putin wasn't the leader that militarized USSR/RUSSIA.

There was an agreement which was part of the conditions for the bringing down of the Berlin wall that NATO shall not expand toward the eastern Europe to avoid potential conflict with Russia. But soon after America was already trying to woo eastern European nations into NATO. All efforts by other NATO members to caution USA Failed. Now we want Russia to look and allow nations that shared direct border with her to join NATO, an organization originally established to unite western powers against and to fight Russia in case of conflict? And ensure a bipolar world is not achievable.

Putin is no despot more than former US presidents that keep fighting wars across the globe. Wars that had no direct link to the US. At least Russia has a reason to give. We are still waiting for the US to show us the atomic bomb that was used as a reason to invade Iraq. The real reason for the for the invasion of Libya is till undisclosed cos there is none, as Gaddafi wouldn't allow unhindered control on the country and access to Libyan oil and gas resources. So, the real despot are the Americans.

No, history isn't repeating itself. History is only telling us we are biased and unfair in our judgement regarding this war. When the Japanese flown their planes to Pearl Habour to bomb US naval station, US responded with the dropping of Atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, leveling the two cities in seconds. Does the two bomb commiserate with the level of destruction done by the Japanese? Many women and children died in those two cities, but who sanctioned US as a result? Did any one faced any war crime as a result? Or Japanese are not human beings like the Americans. The number of people and properties destroyed by those double bombs is more than any atrocities done by the Nazis and the Stalinists combined. And the fact that US can chose to use such a bomb on another country shows how wicked, unforgiving and desperate she can be to remain at the top of the ranking and preserve herself. But we want Russia to consider such country a bluff despite being responsible for the collapse of the USSR before now. Putin is smarter.

No, the reason for the delay in bringing Ukraine Into NATO was not to appease Putin or Russia, as a matter of fact US want a speedy admission to spite Russia but other European powers, especially Germany asked the NATO to go cautious reminding them of their earlier agreement to the bringing down of the Berlin walls.

History is not a fallacy, we only choose which part of history we want to make use of to suit our present narratives. NATO was created to check USSR/RUSSIA, thats a fact. And Russia will never allow countries that shared borders with her to be a member and allow US move her war machineries near Russian borders.
The country thats power drunk is the US, a country that has fought wars in virtually all continents of the world, against many countries, proxy or direct, it does not matter. On matters that usually does not have any direct link to her. Thats a power drunk country. Not a country that wants to protect herself from a gangups of institutional terrorists masquerading as world peace makers.

You expect Putin to trust the West? Do you know how much damage and checking the west had put USSR/Russia through? You are asking Russia to trust, did the west trust Russia? If they do, why was NATO not disbanded after the fall of USSR? Why was Russia not admitted into NATO then? but that will never happen Cos there won't be an imaginary enemy for NATO to gather against.

Putin is a true patriotic leader who will do the needful to ensure that America led West does not politically, militarily and economically erase Russia From the surface of the earth and on map.

BotherMleeper:
Still not an invasion.

Still not the same scenario.

Russia wanted to waste all of Ukraine because Putin has made no bones of saying every time that Ukraine is not a real country and does not deserve to exist.

The only reason he made a pivot towards the Donbas is because he's colossally lost the war.

It's a face saving mechanism to say he's concentrating on only the eastern parts.

Besides, Mariupol is largely Russian speaking...yet he laid it to waste. Hypocritical, much?

Russia will rather level Ukraine than allow her become a member of NATO.

NATO was created as a threat to the existence of Russia. And Ukraine want to be a member, thereby bringing the organization to Russian borders. No reasonable leader will accept that.

If NATO had dropped the Anti Russia agenda, why did the organization blocked Russian membership bid?

Every country will do what's best for her. Russia is doing hers.

During the first world war, it took a telegraph from Zimmerman asking Mexico to support Germany in the war with a promise to return Texas, New Mexico and California back to the Mexicans as benefit for assisting the Germans. A week later, America was in the war, fighting the Germans to end it. That's how important a neighbor is. Mind you US had lost many merchant ships and american lives to German aerial bombings but all of that will not bring US into the war till the telegraph was leaked.

If you say, that was not enough for Russia, the soviet Union in the 60s, tried to establish a nuclear site in Cuba. Being a communist country like USSR, america sponsored a guerilla warfare that removed the pro soviet leader and placed Cuba under sanctions till today.

We can say all we like, Russia will do anything to preserve herself, likewise America. Ukraine is the dumb loser here. Where two elephants fights, the grasses bears the brunts.

BotherMleeper:
Different kettle of fish, and your interpretation of the reasoning behind the event is suspicious for want of authoritative insight.

If Cameroon had massed forces on our borders and invaded us, you can bet your bottom dollar no one would give them a speck of dirt.

Their Gendarmes killed many Nigerian soldiers in the same Bakkasi. Nothing was done by Nigeria. The peninsular was rich in oil and gas, yet we gave it away.

pedel:
Do you think Russia would have attacked Ukraine if she is a member of NATO?

Ukraine will never be a part of NATO.

BotherMleeper:
So if Cameroon comes and says we should hand over all of Nigeria or be bombed to smithereens, we should quietly acquiesce?

Gotcha.

You gave Bakkasi out to same Cameroon cos you were afraid France will help Cameroon in case of war and Britain wouldn't help you. So...

BloomingDale:
This one is nothing compared to all the mass graves we have in Nigeria.

leave the uninformed guy

BotherMleeper:
So in your warped mind a sovereign country should surrender its territories to another country or else pay for it in blood.

The 10,000 Russian soldiers were invaders and occupiers. You consider them innocent?

And if Ukraine surrenders Donbas, what guarantee do they have that Putin won't return and keep gobbling up chunks of the country until nothing is left?

This was the sort of appeasement granted Hitler when he started with the Anschluss, then entered the Sudeten, then Poland and before you know it, has conquered a large portion of Europe.

Tyrants should never be appeased.

What difference does it make? If he want all of Ukraine, he's almost got it now.

SecretAgent7706:
Ukraine's Mariupol city has been '90%' destroyed after being besieged by Russian forces, the mayor says.


https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/04/besieged-ukrainian-city-mariupol-90-destroyed-mayor-a77203

I thought Russia has been demystified. So, nairalanders are just uninformed.

babajero:
NATO or no NATO, Libya or no Libya, terrorism has been in the north right from the time Uthman Dan fodio and his fulani people massacred the Hausas, terrorism arrived northern Nigeria with Uthman Dan fodio, till Ahmadu Bello era, to buhari era, there was no time terrorism left Nigeria. It is only the greed of the people who call themselves southern leaders that is bringing the terrorism up South.

Its called war of conquest. The British fought same to bring Nigerian empires under their colonial rule. If you do not call the British that used machine guns against African soldiers with swords and bowls terrorist. Why would you call Uthman Dan fodio a terrorist? Cos he mixed religion with imperialism? The British did same too.

ofuonyebi:
one thing is now clear from the Russian demolition of Ukraine..
USA, EU, NATO are all chickens fools who can only boasts for nothing but failed to keep their promise!
they betrayed the people of Ukraine when they needed them most

the who world have just empowered Putin as the president of the world
who can never be challenged whenever he decides to go mad!
the question now, is, which country next

What's the big deal there? America had been running mad all around the world. Who challenged her? She expressed her madness in Iraq,Iran,Afghanistan,Libya,Somalia,Vietnam, Panama and demolished Iraq and Libya..... No country challenged her, sanctioned her or threatened her with war crimes, abi women and children no die for Vietnam, Iraq or Libya. So, why is everybody shouting Russia today? As if Russia is the first to fight a war.

The world hailed US when she attacked all those countries listed above among other proxy wars that she sponsored. Why are they crying now that Russia is doing exactly same?

NATO, US and the West are not fools. They know what you guys don't know or refused to accept, wars involving major or super powers will spell doom for the existence of man, this is not 1945.

They never promised Ukraine anything. Only audio, online and newspaper promises that can not be fulfilled or actualized. Even the NATO membership has not been done. What what can NATO, US and the West do? All they can do is to send light arms and ammunition to help them in the war, sanction Russia (they cannot attack her, they know better) and when the war is over grant Ukraine loans (bandages) from IMF and World Bank to rebuild (to cover her bleeding wounds) with crippling interest.

Nonexisting:
If I were Ukrainians, I'd send some missiles into Russia and destroy their cities too. You just can't come destroy my cities like this and go back home to enjoy yours. Nothing like fear for Russia again, we have seen their worst so we die here.

No, we have not seen their worse. Not even their worst.

Dorwadora:
Dearest sir.... Hate is a powerful word to be used anyhow. I do not hate any tribe, I said I have somethings against igbo men. The 'Something' in this context might be my unanswered opinion or belief. I am not tribalistic, I've never been and last time I checked my rights to Conscience, Expression and Religion as a Nigerian is still intact.

Don't mind him, Igbo are quick to accuse other nations of being tribalist. No tribe is ever good enough for them. Yoruba, Fulani , Hausa, Ijaw, Efik,Ibibio etc all hated the Igbos in an average igbo's mind. So it is that mindset that they take around heating Up the polity.

You see how quick he used the hate speech option to attack you. He was trying to shut u up and stop you from airing your opinion.

mmsen:
It isn't Abuja is finer.

Dakar is finer.

Some one even said Abidjan is finer

[quote author=wwwihy post=111635830]The war successfully exposed Russia , Putin and Russian Forces as weak, overrated, overhyped, unintelligent, untrained, defeated rag tag military. It now weakened their standing after all , Ukraine defeated them.




See Russian Forces uniforms....


Chai


Shame catch Putin[/quote]What do you expect? You want to see a blazer and cup of coffee right. You don't know shit about war.

Those two guys must have had their bath about a month ago, not to talk of changing combat uniforms. The nylon you see on their backs contains the food supplies they must have scavenged and they must not lose if they want to stay alive. Water is strictly rationed. And being in an enemy zone means help may not reach them at all or as planned and must walk several kilometers a day.

This happens to all combatants on battle fields no matter your country.

But, what do you know?

Oddfinder:
The whole of Ukraine and including dombass or watever damed region therein was part of Russia! [/b]Nigeria gave up bakasi to Cameroon, not because Cameroon is stronger but for peace to rain..we all knew bakasi belonged to Nigeria but we had to let go for peace[b]

And think that was a smart move?

Difrent:
How?
Russian Objective in Ukraine has been 80% sucessful and its only a matter of time that the remaining 20% which is taking kiev is achieved. In case you missed it....Russian reason for the invasion are 1 to demilitarize ukraine and denazify Ukraine. Zelensky admits almost all of Ukraines millitary equipments have been destroyed. So while the west keep beaming photos of bombed cities and humanitarian crisis to appeal to sentiments.....Russia is busy destroying military bases.... airports.....arms depots...and almost all of Ukrines military equipments.

Its the US and EU that has been demystified. When Putin invaded Georgia....he was testing the water....then realising that US AND EUreally cant do anything he moved to crimea and realising that the west wont do anything made the ukraine move. EU dont want to anger Russia because they depend on it for gas.....while US is too busy making sure China doesnt overtake it as world biggest economy.....Ukraine is on his own, that comedian just got to know the real difference between comedy and reality

100%! How do I get to buy you a cold Heineken? Or Odogwu bitters, at least make you Nak that your babe wella this night...

backtalkG:
The secret of what women wants still remains a secret

I tell you

Thanks for the phone discussion

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Carmira:
unfortunately No

Thanks