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Emlproperties:
I’m surprised as well. I used to see Idenna, Chino, and Nripriest as unsecured bigots, but never knew Ikengawo would be this clownish. Well, the thread continues despite the initial onslaught of the derailers.

I am not insecured because I am from Umuoji , Idenmili with very rich and elegant culture. Ours neighbors are Obosi , Oba ,Ogidi , Ojoto , Uke and Nkpor and we have an enviable culture like our Anambra brothers. We are just proud and defend our priceless culture with every strength. If wanting the best for Anambra makes me a "bigot" then so be it , after all you ndi Imo despise us and that ok by me because I dont care how you feel.

You created a thread with a misleading title , made nonfactual statements and I tried to correct you but you ignored it.

You lots have continued to attack ndi Anambra on facebook just because of their love for their culture/language. The moment a person says they love Anambra dialects you attack them and tell them to shut up. Show some pride and leave us the hell alone. Did you see an Anambra man says he isnt Igbo ? Yet , you lot keep attacking just for saying we love our home land and culture. Its sickening !

Bialegend:
Awka is more related to Enugu people of Igbo than to Nri. Awka dialect sounds more like that of Enugu folks.

No, Awka speak like their immediate Anambra neighbors. Awka doesnt speak like Enugu people. Stop being over simplistic just like a person that claims Onicha speaks Enuani dialect which is a fat lie.

Ikengawo:
Interactions?

They are your father.

You are not here to debate. Alert me when you are done with your fhoolishness

Like I pointed out , Anambra is situated in an area where we had interactions with different tribes and migrations happened both ways. Stop beating a dead horse.

Emlproperties:
Mods Mynd44 pls clear the thread from the idiots trying to derail it.

You are the leader in trying to derail your own thread. You made some unfounded claims. Aguata and Orumba have no kins nor shared heritage with any Imo town. Towns in Aguata includes Ezinifite , Unubi , Ekwulobia etc. They are a unique bunch with a different dialect.

Ikengawo:
fake igbos

see how your king is wearing bucket

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Thats Attah of Igala and please respect Igala people and face us. Don't create trouble with our neighbors. Igala people are proud and have rich culture. Live and let live

Ikengawo:
“ERI MIGRATED FROM IGALA”
By Ayegba Abdullahi Adojoh
(General Igala Ambassador (The Eju-Igala), ordained by Attah Igala, Attah of all Igala people)
Dedicated to Eze Nri, Attah of Obosi, Asagba of Asaba and Olu of Warri
Igala may not be related to everyone in southeast Nigeria, especially those of Aro and/or Jewish origin but Igala is related to Nri people considering some related cultures between us. Although, some South-easterners believe that Eri/Eli was the father of all Igbo people, while some disagree with that.
But Eri, as a person, how was he related to Igala if actually he was? According to some Igbo historians, Atta, one of the sons of Eri was the founder of Igala people. But Igala was not founded by one person as it is popular that Igala settled in Wukari-Taraba state after coming from Egypt through Borno … and later migrated from Wukari to Idah.
In addition, Attah is a tittle in Igala land not a person as they said, and it means father. So, Attah Igala means Father of Igala. Thus, this version does not have any truth.
Another version said that Eri migrated from Igala area to Aguleri and later married an Igala wife who begot a son called Onoja Oboli, and that the Onoja later founded Igala. This is so cyclic and very contradictory.
If Eri migrated from Igala which was already in existence before even marrying his wife or getting a son, how come the same Igala will be founded by Onoja? This also does not hold water.
The third version said that Eri came from heaven with his wife and settled near Omabala river. He later got a child called Idah who founded Igala. Again, this is very strange to many popular world historians as Idah was just a location and not the name of person. Idah was from Ona Imuda,meaning the road has ended because the road or path they were following during their (Igala people) migration ended at the bank of river Niger and they Igala people had to settle down there. Till date, no man or ruler or Attah Igala among the royal clan had/has Idah as his name. This makes this version also false. There is another version which is still different. These inconsistence versions by Igbo historians could not provide provable facts. However, all of them point to one direction, and that is; Eri or Igbo was the father of Igala people.
But considering some similar cultures between Eri people and Igala, and which are not common btw Eri and other Igbo towns, some historians believed that Eri was Igala who left Idah and settled around Omabala (Omi-abala) river many century ago just like many other Igala people across Nigeria and beyond.
As seen in the photo, it can be seen that the Eze Nri dressed like Attah Igala, as he had Ejubejuailo (pectoral mask) on the chest. It is worthy of note here that Ejubejuailo is worn by Attah Igala and no other traditional leader in the entire world. It was taken by Igala soldiers from the Oba of Benin in 1515 during our first war with them. So, how come the Eze Nri dressed (in 1944) like Attah Igala if he was not of Igala? Recall that many Igala communities outside Kogi state have traditional titles like Attah (eg Attah of Obosi), Agaba Idu, Idu, Akor, Okakwu, Okpala, etc while some dress like Attah Igala to show their Igala identity.
From available information, it was stated that the burial of any late Eze Nri is similar or related to that of Attah Igala including the Atebo/Atama of Igala and Adama of Eri side.
But that is not all, according to[b] Mr Lawton in 1917, “The Nris are of Igara [Igala] stock, extended themselves southward from Idah”.[/b] “Practically all the towns north of the Onitsha-Akwa road are Nri- including Nteje, Umuleri and Aguleri”. In the Awka Division, Akwuju, Igbariam and Amanuke, Orumebo, Oreri are Nris”
In 1955, an Aguleri man, M. C. M. Idigo stated that “The Aguleri people originated from Igara [Igala] and migrated to their present area about 3 or 4 centuries ago. The leader Eri, a warrior, took his people on a war expedition, and after long travel and many fights, established his camp at Eri-aka, near Odanduli stream, a place which lies between Ifite and Igbezunu Aguleri. Eri, with his soldiers, went out regularly from his settlement to Urada, Nnadi and other surrounding towns on war raids and captured many of the inhabitants. These were the Ibo-speaking people and by mixing with them and inter-marriage, the immigrants adopted the language”.
In 1960, J. S. Boston stated that “The northern Umunri villages say that the clan was founded by a man called Eri who came to the Anambra area from Igala country and settled at the Aguleri…”
Conclusion: From the above points especially that of the Nri descendant, M. C. M. Idigo, I will join my mouth with them to say that “ERI MIGRATED FROM IGALA”. That is, Eri was Igala who migrated from Idah just like many other Igala people across the 28 states of Nigeria. .. and do you know what, our reconnection will take place soon. God bless Igala Kingdom.
References
1. Oral sources 2. Various online sources 3. Dr Nwanko T. Nwaezeigwe (2013): “The politics of Igbo origin and culture: The Igbo-Ukwu and Nri factors Reconsidered ” (https://www. africaresources.com>rasta) 4. Ayegba A. A (2019): Indigenous Igala people, How many states can we find you in Nigeria and Beyond?, Mathson Publisher, Abuja.
Amb Ayegba A. A.
(General Igala Ambassador)
Teacher, Researcher and Igala Unity Advocate.
PART 2
More proofs of Eri been Igala
Below are the names of the children of Eri.
1. Agulu, an Igala name meaning “The one who stays or waits see or find it”. He was the founder of Aguleri.
2. Menri (Umi-eri). Umi means rest, confort. He was the founder of Umuleri
3. Onogu (Onu-ogu), meaning warrior or leader of war
4. Attah, an Igala name meaning father
5. Iguedo, meaning he stays or resides in the middle or centre of.
All these names including Eri are still being used by Igalas till date. There is no Igbo man bearing Agulu, Eri or Attah presently from my findings.
Pls note: Eri been from Igala does not mean that all Igbos were from Igala. There are many communities where Igala people are in southeast Nigeria. In addition, the communities founded by the children or descendants of Eri in any part of Nigeria are all Igalas.




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You and I know that this is trash, right. Don't get me wrong, Anambra has some Igala migration and that is not in dispute but peddling this Igala origin just to get back at these people making derision of your people is sstupid.

Amah70:
Nigeria’s brutal Civil War ended when the war was about to enter into Orlu senatorial zone.


It’s apt to classify Orlu zone as the soul of Igbo nation because it was in Orlu zone where all surviving Igbos clustered last days of the civil war

With the location of Orlu which is situated in the Igbo heartland it makes sense to be the last section to fall. You don't think so ? Why are some Igbo so unreasonable and down right emotional.

custainmowole:
All igbos originated from Umueri where the Obu Gad is located.

Stop being ignorant. All Igbo doesn't originate from Umuleri. You argue like a tout. You people are embarrassing Anambra people with your fake Eze Eri.

Ikengawo:
But 'north igbo' has been saying that they're the jewish founders of Igboland every since they started selling data at Onitsha main market. Now that the real kneegass are arrived you want to start saying other wise. Go and talk to your people, not me.

People have different versions and you should take that with a pinch of salt. And , no , you are not the real Niggga!

Ikengawo:
Fun Fact: Modern Central Igbo is based on Isu dialect as it is the most mutually intelligible form of Igbo in existence. Meaning that it is linking the original tone of the language which the boarder dialects of Igboland being variants

It is not the most intelligible Igbo and Orlu was not the only dialect used. Relax and stop being emotional. The structure of Igbo Izugbe is actually the old Onicha/Anambra Igbo while southern dialects were the vocabulary.

Ikengawo:
What is the origin? Your Igala Jewish State?
Taa shot op

That's very uncultured from a people who claim they are the originators of Igbo.

The culture we the Omanbala invented are different from yours. Every group contribution but at different degrees.

We are the northern Igbo or Nri/Awka.

Orlu borrowed some traditions from the northern Igbo.

PROUDIGBO:
You got the general idea!....Look for some silly comment made by someone purporting to be Igbo, and rush to Nairaland to post it in the politics section, then they wait for their Igbo-hating and bigoted ilk to fall in and begin the anti-Igbo ridiculing!

On point. Just to generate the much needed Igbo bashing.


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nocomment9999:
Just to inform the ignaramuses who keep talking about Benin with ignoarnce:

There is no such thing as "Edo land". Edo refers to a people and a language.
The Edo are the people of Benin empire.
The land mass is called Benin or Benin empire or Benin Kingdom. Its capital is called Benin city.
We don't do the "language-land" british style of naming their country.

Anioma is a people not a land ! And they are Edo !
Anioma \subseteq Edo.
Perharps you guys should stop having nightmares about the Edo, because they (Edo) are not having nightmares about you.

Go and say that to Dein Agbor that Agbor is Edo land. You really have comprehension problems

Again, Anioma and Edo are not kins. Their kind are east of Niger river

nocomment9999:
You did a lot of good works, we have both had arguments in the passed and we don't allways agree on how to approach things, but you have done a great work. Don't delete the account. Abandone it if you may, but if you delete it, a lot of the work would become harder for people to see.
Under hystoryworld account for example, I was basically schooling a lot of these lunatics as if they were toddlers (4 years ago). Since I deleted the account, it is hard to get to those comments.

First of all , you are not well learned even in your Bini culture, therefore you couldn't school anybody. You were the same person that called Anioma Bini land ! Do you understand that Dein Agbor rejects Ika tag , Igbo tag but here you are calling Anioma Edo land. Even your brothers who are cheering you don't do that ! At least, learn some basic dialogue from them. You can't win like that.

We Igbos are very peaceful, only if you stay in your lane. Don't come here and start claiming Igbo towns with Igbo inhabitants and expect us to keep quiet. You are Edo and you need to stop calling yourself Anioma because you don't even understand Enuani/Igbo.

MelesZenawi:
I always say that these guys deserve no atom of reply, they lack modicum and self respect.


Even as far as Abbi entering Isoko they still answer names and surnames as Ifeanyi, Chukwuemeka, Onyekachukwu, Ojukwu, Chimezie from A-Z of them but some lunatics will want me to be arguing nonsense all because nairaland is Existing.


Igbide Community in Isoko traces their roots to Igbos dress and everything Igbos but we don't go about fabricating nonsense because everything there is Igbo.

I tire for these guys sef..

But , since they said the language was recent let's investigate their shrines because shrines are never destroyed and points to the earliest inhabitants...lol

Don't worry, we have these people on a leash. I resurrected this thread because I was bored and wanted to drag these Bini subjects. Lol

nocomment9999:
Can't you see, some of them talk about us all day everyday.
Some of them even go the extra mile of stalking us.
Let us face it, we are their rockstars.

No , we dont talk about you. You are obsessed with us because you thought you have something over us only to find out you have always been a minor. However, you are free to feel like rockstar if you like but stay in your lane.

Your likes are Esan, Uhrobo , Afemai , Itshekiri and you all belong to Yoruba fold. We have absolutely nothing in common but some borrowed elements of Bini and this is common with border communities across the whole world.

Ask yourself why all the shrines dated to antiquity all have Igbo names. This is the most preserved aspects of their cultures.

MelesZenawi:
If you believe that guy is from delta then you can believe anything.

Infact you are just replying many monikers and one person at Same time

Its really very easy to see that. No Anioma person no matter how Igbophobic will call Anioma Edo land....not even Agbotaen or Ehikwe !

Do they raise phools in Bini land. Then , again , what do you call people who are slaves to their Oba. These people are in spiritual bondage....lol

samuk:
You rushed into this thread beating your chest, see how you are now being tossed around like a tennis ball. Your comrades have all deserted you, leaving you to bear the brunt of your illogicality.

Tossed around with what ? You don't have them guile and skill to toss even the slowest person around with your baseless rhetoric. Show me river niger on that trash you called a map and you ended up with nothing but making empty fhool of yourself. You haven't presented any credible argument but ended up providing me right. You posted a video of Igbo people , who speak Igbo not Bini but you want to claim them as Bini and you gullibly believed you made a point.

Why are you struggling to show proof of this "empire you built"? You had to claim Igbo people to swell your number because you have absolutely nothing, nada! Show me the Bini culture in Anioma and you posted videos of Igbo people and then jubilated. Are you guys this inferior minded. Take Nduka Ezeagwuna and have him mop your floor , we dont care!

nocomment9999:
Indeed mr mental nri, map makers in the 17th century were so incompetent they couldn't even use satelites to make our current incredicly precised maps.
They were probably using android phones instead of apple.
You know aro confederacy created apple phone (it was called aro phone back then) and sent the first satelite into space, right ? They did that at the same time they were making their 13 month calendar.

Infantile gibberish!

Cry me a river some more

nocomment9999:
Too far gone ! You are so deluded. People get paid to talk to deluded mentally ill people like you. they get paid heavilly, those guys are called shrinks.
They get paid that much because it is a heavy burden for a sane person to talk to a mentally ill patient like you.
The way you just rubbish eye-witness accounts (precolonail maps) and promote fairytales such as "yoruba calender" or "aro whatever", I can't make this up, I don't have enough imagination for this rubbish.

please go and seek for medical help, you are sick in the head.

If you had the basic skills of reading a map they you ought to be embarrassed to display that map. That junk is practically empty lacking all the features of a standard map. This , however, is because there was no proper exploration of the region in question.

Conversely, you need medical help for calling and Igbotic speaking enclave Edo land. Cant you see your own mischievousness

AreaFada2:
I had a similar experience with a son of a reigning Oba of Lagos those days. In Benin too. I heard from him about his Benin heritage and why his father wanted him educated in Benin. I mentioned this years ago here on Nairaland already.
Look, those who jump online to denigrate other people's history are efulefu, Oloriburuku and total nobodies where they come from. This is their only source of joy: an anonymous forum.

Don't waste your time. Those who matter know where they come from originally. They are prepared for that role partly by assimilating Benin norms through residency or education in Benin and help from the Palace.

Ant infested wood attracts lizards. You want to reap where you didn't sow because you think you are some nonsensical Bini people with a chiefdom the Igbo has no regard for. We will use iron fist to handle you until you face your front.

I dont give a danm about what ever goes on in that your Bini village but if you try to encroach into my territory ( western Igbo) I will tear you in shreds ..

And , yes , I am not from Anioma but I have Nri lineage and my brothers are littered in Anioma. From Asaba , Ogwashi Ukwu , Igbuzor Okpanam etc and I will join them to chop your diseased hands off Anioma land. When they were being massacred you were jubilating. You raided Anioma and sold them into slavery and bragged about it ! Now , you need population and suddenly they are edo. Despicable bunch of llunatics!

nocomment9999:
Transformer is waiting.

Where is Benin empire ? Right here on this precolonial map.

You cant be this dumb to keep parading that bogus and useless map that wasnt based on thorough exploration od the area covered. Where is river niger on that map. How can you build an empire that existed only on a map ? What do you take us for , the Igbo. We have well established cosmic knowledge of the areas we occupy well before Bini migrated to their current location.

We have well developed calender with 13 lunar months , days of the week and record of year(Igu Aro) which we the Nri still keep till this day. Just because you organized some little chiefdom doesn't give you the courage to insult me with a useles map some ignorant white explorers drew based on assumptions. Before you started making wooden sculptures were were smelting irons, you plonkerr!

nocomment9999:
Your level of delusion is amazing. I know you are in pains right now, but look I am not your shrink, so stop talking to me. Go and hug a transformer or something to kill your pains.

One more thing: there was no such thing as "aro confederacy", it is a made up piece of shit.

And there is "Bini Empire" ? Wey the empire


Lol

nocomment9999:
You igbo are under some strong hallucinations, and clearly you do not belong in any conversation about Anioma. Simple we are not your property. This topic is about an Obi going to the palace of the Oba to pledge allegeance. What is your business in this ?

Some people returned from Arochukwu after the fall of the Confederacy to my town to claim kinship and we turned them back because there was no knowledge of their departure. In your case , you desperately need to swell your minute population so you take any man that says he is Bini though you know they aren't . You are a dumping ground for inferiors like Nduka Ezeagwuna. Does he look like a true royal to you ? Take him !

nocomment9999:
If you want to tell a lie, then why not make it even greater. Perharps you should say you were with God almighty this morning.
The Obi of Onitsha doesn't entertain mentally ill ipob fanatics.

You aren't very intelligent, after all. For a guy who called Anioma an Edo land I dont expect much reasoning from you.

Dartilo:
The two YouTube videos go silent them wella

Because they spoke Bini , right ? Or , they were speaking Igbo ?

nocomment9999:
Rich coming from a person whose tribesmen are well known for being slaves captured in their millions sold to plantations all over the world.

Slave traders didn't sell their tribes men,they hunt outside of their territory. Aro were like that. In Umuoji , we had a famous trade raider , Emefo who kidnapped and sold to Aro traders. His slave pit is still in my town today but he never sold Umuoji people. His raided from surrounding villages, like Nkpor , Obosi, Onicha , Ogidi.

Bini raided and sold slaves from surrounding villages. So, what are you unto here ? You were part of that abominable trade. There is nothing there to be proud of. You captured and sold Anioma people...arent you proud ?

Ofunwa111:
Everyday you keep writing Zik...

PS: Why do you people keep on bringing up Zik's autobiography written in the 1970s, but when I bring up a historical essay that the same Zik wrote earlier in the 1930s which appears to contradict what he wrote in the '70s, you people keep mute or ignore. I thought you were a great proponent of the theory that earlier documents are always more authentic than later ones?

They are desperate, grasping at straws because everything screams Igbo even the Edo wannabes. You need to understand that when people make these claims of being a warrior tribe and it so happens that closer observations reveal you were just a mushroom village with a head who took guns in exchange for slaves to terrorize your neighbors it could be very shameful and embarrassing. Bini people have no elegance , grace nor royal mannerisms.