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Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To Pope Francis...please Drop Your Wishes Here by Ifeann(f): 1:08pm On Dec 17, 2014
ProphetUdeme:
matthew 23 vs 9 - Jesus says call no man your father upon the earth for One is your Father who is God in heaven. Only God is the Holy Father (john 17 vs 11) Pope francis has been highly exalted as righteous before men but in God's sight he is an abomination. ( luke 16 vs 15).
First of all, A happy birthday to the POPE.

You call yourself Prophet Udeme; do you actually knw who a prophet is. Where is your prophesy.

Apparently you have an issue with Catholics calling their priests and the pope, "father" . Let me quote that passage in its entirety for you, "But you are not to be called ‘rabbi,’ for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have ONE Father, who is in HEAVEN. Neither be called ‘masters,’ for you have one master, the Christ" (Matt. 23:8–10).

My brother in humanity don't cherry pick bible passages. This is a common error by protestants who fail to understand the context.

Have you read Acts of the apostles where Abraham is refered to as "our father Abraham" acts 7:2 or in Romans 9:10 where Paul refers to Issac as "father Isaac".

If you are to call no man father by your poor understanding of that verse of scripture then you may as well NEVER call your biological father "father".

So What Did Jesus Mean?
Jesus criticised Jewish leaders who love "the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues, and salutations in the market places, and being called ‘rabbi’ by men" (Matt. 23:6–7). His admonition here is a response to the Pharisees’ proud hearts and their grasping after marks of status and prestige. 
He was using hyperbole.

This was said to show the scribes and Pharisees how sinful and proud they were for not looking humbly to God as the source of all authority and fatherhood and teaching, and instead setting themselves up as the ultimate authorities, father figures, and teachers. 

Christ used hyperbole often, for example when he declared, "If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell" (Matt. 5:29, cf. 18:9; Mark 9:47). Christ certainly did not intend this to be applied literally, for otherwise all Christians would be blind amputees! (cf. 1 John 1:8; 1 Tim. 1:15).

Throughout the world, some people have been tempted to look upon religious leaders who are mere mortals as if they were an individual’s supreme source of spiritual instruction, nourishment, and protection. The tendency to turn mere men into "gurus" is worldwide. 
This was also a temptation in the Jewish world of Jesus’ day, when famous rabbinical leaders, especially those who founded important schools, such as Hillel and Shammai, were highly exalted by their disciples. It is this elevation of an individual man—the formation of a "cult of personality" around him—of which Jesus is speaking when he warns against attributing to someone an undue role as master, father, or teacher.

This is what you see a lot in protestant churches where they cleverly call their General overseers "daddy" and avoiding the use of father. Isn't this hypocritical. Go to any protestant church and see how they elevate their head pastors , GO's etc.

I humbly hope you have been educated.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 9:48am On Dec 17, 2014
italo:
What is wrong with the crusades.

The crusades was a good thing.

All Christians owe their gratitude to those brave men, many with no military training, who fought to defend Christianity from those Muslim terrorists.

Just look at what ISIS is doing today to understand why the crusades were needed.
I agree that the crusades was necessary if not the moslems would have conquered all of Europe as they slaughtered, beheaded and raped innocent people especially the Christians and Jews until they pay the extortion money known as Jizyah.
It is very similar to what is goin on with ISIS and the Taliban today(by the way the Pakistani Taliban murdered over 120people yesterday, that's the religion of peace for you),you see these Muslim extemists behead children, murder whole families, destroy or convert beautiful churches to empty mosques, demolish shite mosques, rape women, sell captives, blow up ancient Asian temples etc. Its the expansion through jihad that Muslims are commanded to do in their "holy" book.

BUT HOWEVER, the crusades were made up of Christians with support from the church to wage war on the jihadist Muslims, sad things happened. As Christians we are commanded not to murder, even if it is killing blood thirsty moslems.

Let's pray that more and more moslems leave Islam as they turn to the one true God, Adonia , the I am, as they accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 10:16pm On Dec 16, 2014
bolaino:
not that the video would do us any good to further your cause in this discussion, because I have come to vehemently believe that Adolk Hitler was a Croon of the catholic church, I have seen picture evidence of catholic bishops saluting The Nazi swastika, I have seen pictures of Nazi SS officers having good laughs with Reverend Fathers, so i actually do not need a video evidence from you to know if Adolf Hitler was a croon of the catholic church or not. I just wanted to test your resolve before we go into arguments proper, but now that it has been shown that your resolve is absolute then, may Our matured Ethical discussions begin, first and foremost, do you believe in the concept of God?
My brother in humanity, I haven't seen these pictures you speak of but I can not say I doubt what you say. Infact without seeing them I can say you are being honest because of your stance on the issue. But I have 2 questions to ask.
1. The Nazi's where known for their intense propaganda. What if the few pics you claim you saw was all propaganda spread by the Nazi's to get support from the Christians in Nazi Germany who were opposed to the treatment of the Jews.

2.Even if the pictures were real, how does a priest laughing and chatting with Nazis represent the views of the church (and Christianity as a whole) on the crimes of hitler's Germany.

I have given you quotes and book references on his anti christain stance. Yet u want video proof. Why don't you just bring him back to life so he can answer you himself.

Again I have watched quite a ton of debates between Muslims and Christians on the issue of "is Christianity/ Islam a religion of peace" and not once has a Muslim apologist ever brought up an argument of hitler being a christain because he was a well know atheist. Not once has a Muslim apologist suggested Christians supported the Nazi. Infact the failure of Germany in the world war caused the end of the (Muslim) ottoman empire which supported it. But I must admit I have NOT studied the ottoman empire's involvement in great detail.

And YES I believe in God, father to my lord and saviour Jesus Christ sent to the world to bring humans salvation.
Crime › Re: What Is Wrong With Our Police? by Ifeann(f): 9:50pm On Dec 16, 2014
wildguy:
Two days ago, on my way home from work around 9pm, I was stopped by some police men for carrying a laptop. The mistake I made was I did not have the receipt and my ID on me. They put me in a danfo bus and headed to their station. On the way they picked up anybody they saw that had a bag on them. There was even a guy that had a laptop with him with his ID card and receipt that they picked "cause he was walking around with a laptop alone". They seized all our phones till we got to the police station.

When we got to the police station they separated those of us that had laptops from those that didn't. All of us with laptops were branded yahoo boys. They told us to turn on our systems so they can analyse what was on the system. When I switched on my own they saw visual studio with codes and sql server open (I am a developer) and they concluded that that was the software that I use in scamming my clients. After punching and slapping me for not telling them the truth of how I do my operation (they opened my yahoomail account and saw nothing that suggested that I was a yahoo guy), they packed my bag with my laptop and locked me in a cell(there were about 20 guys in the cell). They allowed me to make some calls before they locked me up.

My folks later came to bail me out around 2 in the morning and can you imagine that after collecting money for bail they asked for money from me to collect my belongings that was with them (They said I had to pay for the fuel money)

I got home and I was thinking

a. Are we saying that someone with a laptop cannot work around with it, even if the person has a receipt and an ID card?
b. How many people have they kept in the cell without any just reason or just cause "they were walking alone"?
c. Is there no agency that punishes law enforcers for abusing their power?
d. What training do the officers go through for them to separate a developer, photo editor, graphics designer from a yahoo guy?
e. How do we want to develop ourselves in the field of ICT when everybody that carries a laptop is called a yahoo guy?
If this really happened and you are not in a human rights lawyer's oFfice discussing how to sue the NPF then you are not serious.
If you can remember the officers names, incident location, how much you paid etc you can get a lawyer, some lawyers even go on pro bono. You could be one your way to making a ton of money. You have human rights and Nigeria is a signatory to international human rights agreements.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by Ifeann(f): 7:00pm On Dec 16, 2014
ayinba1:
You do know that Abraham (pbuh) is the beloved friend of God, I hope. Why then do you blaspheme him and his progeny? He, Abraham, (pbuh) was a firm believer and was never among the idolators. May Allah guide you, amin
ayinba1(f) why are u more concerned about this irrelevant point, as explicit as lafflaff123 may have been in explaining the alleged origins of Islam by Abram's seed, lafflaff123 is correct to say that so much suffering in this world is because of Islam.
Why did u not make issue with lafflaff123's point about the terror groups of Islam and the hostage situation in Sydney.
Please study about the origins of Islam, why the association with the moon, study islams pagan origins. Why argue about trivial things and avoid the main issues.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by Ifeann(f): 5:33pm On Dec 16, 2014
MightySparrow:
Muslims write beautifully to paint Islam good but the activities that present Islam is to the world is ugly.
Yes they constantly need to remind us it is peaceful while they keep killing people left right and Center.. Persecuting christains and Jews in the middle east and murdering atheists and apostates.
Turn on the news, the Taliban (extremist moslems) just killed over 110 people , mostly children at a school TODAY, Boko haram has killed hundreds this week. Moslems even hate each other.. Sunnis murder shites and ahmedies all the time..
it all blood blood , they love the sword that's why you see it in their paintings, decorations , flags, books all the time.

The Goodnews is that a lot of people are leaving Islam each year(especially in north and sub-Saharan Africa ) as the true God sets them free. Case in point, the Muslim brotherhood which was kicked out of Egypt recently. The overwhelming majority including moderate Muslims said NO to isalmists ruling over them..
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Make Up Your Mind! Who Really Is Angel Micheal? by Ifeann(f): 12:55pm On Dec 16, 2014
No secular or christain scholar takes the Jehovah withnesses seriously because of their terrible misinterpretations of the scriptures, even their bible does not stay true to the original Greek manuscripts in many instances.
They have also not been consistent with their stories case in point was Christ crucified on a stake or cross. All studies of ancient roman empire crucifixion methods is clearly indicative of a cross being used. If they can't get this simple fact right then how can their theology be right??
The Jehovah withness came to deny the fact of christ's divinity just like Islam, Mormons, the word of faith movement etc. However a lot of Jehovah withnesses don't know the history of their church and when they see the errors they are afraid to leave because of the loss of community.
A lot of them are Good people but they deny the work and suffering of Jesus on the cross and think they can earn salvation by their works.
I just pray that more of them turn to the early Christians and see how they worshipped God and how the Jehovah witness doctrine differs from true christanity.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by Ifeann(f):
lafflaff123:
My problem with write ups like this is that they cherry pick the good side, and the most important FACT out of the FACTS is missing and that is.

How did ISLAM start?

Just in case you forgot, so let me remind you. There was an Egyptian slave named Hagar who bore Abraham a son outside wedlock called Ishmael and the rest, you know is history.

You know the definition of a person born outside wedlock right?

Only if Abraham had used the WITHDRAWAL method, or even used a condom if it was existing then, we would have no Boko Haram, ISIS, AL-QAIDA and all those fancy crazy names these guys have this days. Islam is a peaceful religion, but the anger in them is something that has puzzled a lot of people.

One of them today in Austrialia just got killed, trying to kill 17 people in an hostage take, while holding a sign from the window that says there is only one Allah. As if anybody was doubting that.
**wow so he is dead already. U don't need to be puzzled abt the anger in true moslems.
These moderate Muslims keep telling us Islam is peaceful but the early 7th 8th and 9th century Muslims will be ashamed of these moderates. Have they asked themselves why if u practise Islam in its every instruction you become an extremist. Even Muslim countries are afraid to implement sharia to its fullest. Please Muslims pray to the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob to open your eyes to the truth an not the god of the kaaba.

Please Muslims Go and read your Koran and hadiths in 21st century English and not 7th century classical Arabic if you want to understand why we have isis , bokoharam, alqaeda, hamas, hezbolla, etc ,and why a moslem jihadist just died in Sydney and taking the lives of 2 innocent people in the process.
He is promised 72 virgins in paradise and perpetual erections for intercourse and wine (I hope u knw wine isn't allowed in this life but it is allowed in the next for Muslims), read your sources and authentic hadiths.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 11:30am On Dec 16, 2014
bolaino:
do you know that as we're speaking lots of fake pastors like Pastor Ayo and David Oyedepo are holding millions of Nigerians hostage to ignorance? I'm a world war 2 buff, I know pretty much about Adolf Hitler, and his Occult practices etc, I made a claim, and it's left for you to provide evidence why my claim might be false, I know Hitler wrote books and he was also on video and on Tv, but if you could, it would buttress your point more if you could show me an actual video footage of Adolf Hitler distancing himself from the catholic church.
So what proof do you have that these pastors are fake. I don't agree with a lot of these protestant pastors but I don't have a right to call them fake until they have been exposed as one; case in point Rev king, Zoe, pastor Eddie long, Ted haggard, etc if someone decides to follow a pastor because he has permed hair, has a nice car or has a nice suit that's their business.
However, their are a lot of christain churches doin a ton of Good.
You say I should show you an actual video footage of Adolf Hitler distancing himself from the catholic church.
Don't you see how flawed your question is. Even u admit he was into the occult , u say u have studied abt hitler , then u should be aware of how the catholic church suffered terribly under Nazi rule.
In Shirer, William L; Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany they give details of how he was vehemently against organised religion, especially christainity and wanted to substitute it with the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists.

If u are knowledgeable on the issue then you shouldn't be asking me to show you video proof.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 1:14am On Dec 16, 2014
macof:
First off. Hitler I know was no atheist but a Christian
I'll read on the others you mentioned cus I know Christians have a thing for lies

Back to the topic...The message is both Islam Andy christianity have caused irreplaceable damage and evil against the innocent...yet these religions hypocritically call themselves "holy" and "moral"
I don't care if u believe the truth about hitler. I have provided quotes about his thoughts on christanity, he hated it just like other mass murdering atheists; Mao of china particularly. You can condemn religion all you want but it doesn't change the fact that atheism is the biggest threat to man. Take North Korea for instance. An extremely atheist country. Look at their human rights record. An absolute disaster.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by Ifeann(f): 12:41am On Dec 16, 2014
Can u please explain some things about Islam, I shall put my questions beneath each fact.

personal59:
1) "Islam" means "surrender" or "submission". "Salam" (which means "peace"wink is the root word of "Islam". In a religious context the word "Islam" means "the surrendering of one's will (without compulsion) to the true will of God in an effort to achieve peace".

**You say without compulsion, your prophet will disagree with you. Why does the quran say ; ...then KILL the polytheists wherever you find them , and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush, but if they repent and perform the prayer and pay religious tax, then leave their way free..quran 9:5, sounds like complusion to me.
And quran 9:29 which says "FIGHT those who do not believe in allah." more compulsion. Infact there are many more like this but I am sure if u are a Koran reading Muslim you will know. Pls explain

3) Islam is not a new religion or cult. It is a universal way of life and civilization. Studies show that between 1.5 and 1.8 billion people in the world identify their religion as Islam. Along with Judaism and Christianity it traces its roots through Prophet Abraham and back to the first humans Adam and Eve.

**Many scholars and historians actually believe that Islam is a break away sect (cult) from Christianity that deny the divinity of Jesus. Just like the jehova withness, Mormons etc; infact some think Mohammed got his ideas from some 7th century apostates of Christianity, have u heard abt the Gospel of st Thomas. They forged that.; and Yeah their are about 1.2 - 1.5 billion Muslims. MOST Muslims are born into Islam and are threatened with death if they become apostate ( leave Islam), so they stay and endure until they can escape. Over 6million Muslims leave Islam every year in the middle east . Why is that and why are apostates KILLED in Islam.


6) Islam is a complete way of life that governs all facets of life: moral, spiritual, physical, intellectual, social, economical, etc.

**Are u serious ??
Please how old was Aisha when she got married to the prophet and how old was she when the marriage was consummated. She was married to him at 6 years and according to authentic haddith sources he had sex with her at 9years. Please is this moralhuh.

7) Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world. To become Muslim, a person of any race or culture must say a simple statement, the shahadah, that bears witness to the belief in the One God and that Muhammad is a prophet of God.

**For sometime now moslems keep saying Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world but I like how honest you are here by
Saying its "one" of the fastest growing religions. Christianity is still the fastest growing religion, infact china will have more Christians than American in 10years time , that's a whooping 200million plus according to the respected pew research group. China is officially an atheist country but the truth can't be subdued for long. I would like ask why do u try to sell Islam as "one" of the fastest growing religion when Infact the growth has come from exponential births, u know, 1 man 4 wives 18 children etc. And yet new research shows Islam is in decline,especially in north Africa.

cool "Allah" is an Arabic word that means "God". Muslims also believe that "Allah" is the personal name of God.

**Actually that was the name given to the moon God, you knw, the one who is the father of al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat,. Have u heard of the satanic verses when Mohammed said that they
"....are the exalted cranes Whose intercession is to be hoped for." (Surah 53:19-22)
Opps..so my question is how are u sure allah truly is God especially since Mohammed's father was called abdullah which means slave of allah when he was still a pagan. please answer cos I need to know more about your religion incase if I am wrong.

9) Allah is not the God of Muslims only. He is the God of all people and all creation. Just because people refer to God using different terms does not mean there are different gods. Many Hispanics refer to God as "Dios" and many French refer to God as "Dieu" yet they mean the same God. Many Arab Jews and Arab Christians call God "Allah" and the word "Allah" (in Arabic script) appears on the walls of many Arab churches and on the pages of Arabic Bibles. Although the understanding of God may differ between the various faith groups, it does not change the fact that the One Lord and Creator of the Universe is the God of all people.

**Why is God true name not mentioned once in the Koran, YWVH, why isn't it. If u are told that the people of the book got the message first. Why does the pagan name remain.

10) The Islamic concept of God is that He is loving, merciful and compassionate. Islam also teaches that He is just and swift in punishment. However, Allah once said to Muhammad, "My mercy prevails over my wrath". So Islam teaches a balance between fear and hope, protecting one from both complacency and despair.

**Your Koran says God is loving, merciful and compassionate and yet your Koran says that God is father to NO one. That you moslems are all slaves to allah. How do you reconcile this, especially the passages in the Koran that says you should slay the pagans, fight the Christians and moslems, fight the disbelievers, kill them, stone the adulteress (infact killing is so common to Islam that people associate stoning and beheadings to Islam subconsciously)

12) The Christian concept of "vicarious atonement" (the idea that Jesus died for the sins of humanity) is alien to the Islamic concept of personal responsibility. Islam teaches that on the Day of Judgment every person will be resurrected and will be accountable to God for their every word and deed. Consequently, a practicing Muslim is always striving to be righteous while hoping and praying for God's acceptance and grace.


**It is alien to Islam because Islam came to deny people that free gift of atonement through Christ. However please answer me this why does your Koran (or haddith, I forget which one) say that on the last day some Muslims will come with sins heaped like mountains and it shall be put on the back of Christians and Jews. Why does your God have an irrational hatred for Christians and Gods (YVWH) own people the Jews.

14) Muslims neither worship Muhammad nor pray through him. Muslims solely worship the Unseen and Omniscient Creator, Allah.

**But why do u always say PBUH so much everytime like its mind control. Nothing like this is in Jewish and christain scripture that your Koran affirms as Gods words also.


15) Muslims accept the original unaltered Torah (as revealed to Moses) and the original unaltered Bible (as revealed to Jesus) since they were revealed by God. But none of these scriptures exist today in their original form or in their entirety. Therefore, Muslims follow the subsequent, final and preserved revelation of God, the Qur'an.


**Do you see the paradox here. What u claim here is that your god could not preserve his own words in the injeel/bible (600 years after Jesus). And u expect the Koran to be preserved 1400years after Mohammed. This defies common sense. Please explain.


16) The Qur'an was not authored by Muhammad. It was authored by God, revealed to Muhammad (through angel Gabriel) and written into physical form by his companions.


**Have u read the haddiths about his experiences when "Gabriel" revealed the Koran to him. In christain eyes , that is clear demonic possession. Please explain to me why he was depressed and wanted to jump off a cliff according to authentic haddits.

17) The original Arabic text of the Qur'an contains no flaws or contradictions, and has not been altered since its revelation.

**A lot of scholars will disagree with you. How can you be so sure when some haddits contradict this statement. Aisha reported that some were lost.


19) If all Qur'ans in the world today were destroyed, the original Arabic would still remain. This is because millions of Muslims, called "hafiz" (or "guardians"wink have memorized the text letter for letter from beginning to end, every word and every syllable. Also, chapters from the Qur'an are precisely recited from memory in each of the five formal prayers performed daily by hundreds of millions of Muslims throughout the world.

**Yes its still part of the mind control. Instead of contributing to the sciences, arts and expanding our knowledge people including children are compelled to spend hundreds of hours reciting 7th century classical Arabic that they little undertand.

20) Some attribute the early and rapid spread of Islam to forced conversions by the sword. While it is accurate that the Muslim empire initially spread, for the most part, through battles and conquests (a common phenomenon for that time) the religion of Islam itself was never forced on anyone who found themselves living under Muslim rule. In fact, non-Muslims were afforded the right to worship as they pleased as long as a tax, called "jizyah", was paid. During the Dark Ages, Jews, Christians and others were given protection by the Muslims from religious persecutions happening in Europe. Islam teaches no compulsion in religion (Qur'an 2:256 and 10:99). For more, read "The Spread of Islam in the World" by Thomas Arnold.


**This is laughable. When u say no complusion of religion I wonder if you don't knw about other passages asking you to fight the unbelievers till they recite the shahadda or if you are just using Taqiyya on the ignorant.
However u are correct about the jizyah, it is better known as extortion money. Don't you think this tax is morally wrong.?

21) Terrorism, unjustified violence and the killing of non-combatant civilians (or even intimidating, threatening or injuring them) are all absolutely forbidden in Islam. Islam is a way of life that is meant to bring peace to a society whether its people are Muslim or not. The extreme actions of those who claim to be Muslim may be a result of their ignorance, frustration, uncontrolled anger or political (not religious) ambitions. Anyone who condones or commits an act of terrorism in the name of Islam is simply not following Islam and is, in fact, violating its very tenets. These people are individuals with their own personal views and agendas. Fanatical Muslims are no more representative of the true teachings of Islam than fanatical Christians are of the true teachings of Christianity or fanatical Jews are of the true teachings of Judaism. The most prominent examples of such "religious" fanatics are Anders Behring Breivik, the 2011 Norwegian terrorist who claimed in his manifesto to be "100 percent Christian" and Baruch Goldstein, perpetrator of the 1994 Hebron massacre who is considered by some Jews to be a "hero" and a "saint". Extremism and fanaticism are problems not exclusive to Muslims. Anyone who thinks that all Muslims are terrorists should remember that the former boxer Muhammad Ali, perhaps the most celebrated person of our era, is a practicing Muslim.

***So because Ali the boxer is a moslem therefore everyone should be. I guess you are saying we should copy the musicians that have sold their souls as well or maybe BILL gates the atheist and mark the Facebook guy , an atheist as well... We all want to be billionaires right??.. Is that what u are saying??. And Yes no religion has a monopoly on violence but the numbers in Islam is so so so much higher, hamas, hezbollah, ISIS ,alqeda, boko haram etc and of course Muslim on Muslim conflicts; sunnis murdering ahmedias, shites etc. So much blood spilling by Muslims, how do u reconcile this with Islam being peaceful.

22) The word "jihad" does not mean "holy war". It actually means "to struggle" or "to strive". In a religious context it means the struggle to successfully surrender one's will to the will of God. Some Muslims may say they are going for "jihad" when fighting in a war to defend themselves or others, but they say this because they are conceding that it will be a tremendous struggle. But there are many other forms of jihad which are much more relevant to the everyday life of a Muslim such as the struggles against laziness, arrogance, stinginess, one's own ego, or the struggle against a tyrant ruler or against the temptations of Satan, etc. Regarding the so-called verses of "holy war" in the Qur'an, two points: A) The term "holy war" neither appears in the Arabic text of the Qur'an nor in any classical teachings of Islam. B) The vast majority of verses in the Qur'an pertaining to violence refer to wartime situations in which Muslims were permitted to defend themselves against violent aggression. Any rational, intellectual analysis of the context and historical circumstances surrounding such verses, often ignored by pundits or violent extremists, proves this to be true. Other verses of violence deal with stopping oppression, capital punishment and the like.

***Tell this to the jihadist in Sydney holding 50 people hostage in a cafe as we speak.
How do you believe these your "facts" please,



23) Women are not oppressed in Islam. Any Muslim man that oppresses a woman is not following Islam. Among the many teachings of Muhammad that protected the rights and dignity of women is his saying, "...the best among you are those who treat their wives well."

***But what about the passage that says you should beat you wife into submission if you fear rebillion from her (quran 4 :34)


24) Islam grants women many rights in the home and in society. Among them are the right to earn money, to financial support, to own property, to an education, to an inheritance, to being treated kindly, to vote, to a bridal gift, to keep their maiden name, to worship in a mosque, to a divorce, and so on.

***Please tell this to the Taliban, government of Iran, wahabis , governments of pakistain, afganistan and the Saudi Arabians (where mecca is) it is forbidden for women to even drive is Saudi Arabia. Don't you think they are hypocrites ?

25) Muslim women wear the head-covering (hijab) in fulfillment of God's decree to dress modestly. This type of modest dress has been worn by religious women throughout time such as traditional Catholic nuns, Mother Teresa and the Virgin Mary.

****Did you ever see what the Virgin Mary wore. For sanity's sake u Muslims only allow the women show their eyes and they are covered head to toe in black in the middle east' s sun that is torture

26) Forced marriages, honor killings, female genital mutilation and the confinement of women to their homes are all forbidden in Islam. These practices stem from deeply entrenched cultural traditions and/or ignorance of the true Islamic teachings or how to apply them in society. Arranged marriages are allowed in Islam but are not required. In fact, one of the conditions for a valid Islamic marriage contract is the mutual consent of both parties to the marriage. And divorce is permissible provided the Islamic guidelines are followed which protect the rights of all affected parties, especially women and unborn children.


***Under sharia u Can divorce your wife by saying "I divorce you" 3 times after which she has 6months to gain ur favor or she gets thrown out. Please how is this fair?

27) Islam and the Nation "of Islam" are two different religions. Islam is a religion for all races and enjoins the worship of the One Unseen God who never took human form. On the other hand "the Nation" is a movement geared towards non-whites that teaches God appeared as a man named Fard Muhammad and that Elijah Muhammad was a prophet. According to orthodox Islam these are blasphemous beliefs that contradict the basic theology defined throughout the Qur'an and other authentic texts. The followers of "the Nation" adhere to some Islamic principles that are mixed with other practices and beliefs completely alien to authentic Islamic teachings. To better understand the differences read about Malcolm X, his pilgrimage to Mecca and his subsequent comments to the media. Islam teaches equality amongst the races (Qur'an 49:13).

***You are correct abt the nation of Islam. They are pathetic. However Islam does not teach equality. If it teaches equality why is it that only the christains and Jews are taxed the jizyah, why is it that the prophet says the woman is half as intelligent as the man. why are moslems commanded in quran 48:29 to "..be severe against the disbelievers and merciful among yourselves".. Please why?


29) In the five daily prayers Muslims face the Kaaba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. It is a cube-shaped stone structure that was built by Prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael on the same foundations where Prophet Adam is believed to have built a sanctuary for the worship of the One God. Muslims do not worship the Kaaba. It serves as a focal point for Muslims around the world, unifying them in worship and symbolizing their common belief, spiritual focus and direction. Interestingly the inside of the Kaaba is empty.

***Do you knw that the kaaba was an idol temple and that the ONLY person that says that it was where Prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael and coincidentally where Adam built his sanctuary is Mohammed. Only Mohammed says this. And yes the kaaba is empty, as empty as Islam.

30) The hajj is an annual pilgrimage to the Kaaba made by about 3 million Muslims from all corners of the Earth. It is performed to fulfill one of the pillars of Islam. The rituals of hajj commemorate the struggles of Abraham, his wife Hagar and their son Ishmael in surrendering their wills to God.

***Yes its a ritual, but why do moslems struggle to kiss the black stone, and stretch their hands to it.. You do knw these were pagan practises,??


Please read your sources, haddits,Koran and see the contradictions between what u say and what ur prophet said
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Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by Ifeann(f):
Stop the lies , these "facts" are lies
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 8:04pm On Dec 15, 2014
gatiano:
There is nothing racist about truth. nomatter how you intend to twist it, truth is truth, and while truth stands, falsehood vanishes. Muhammad was not a blackman, He was a white/light skin Arab, A very good Prophet of GOD/ALLAH. He tried hard to change his white arabs and white people into the path of righteousness, Guess what? He couldn't, that gave him a worried heart because Muhammad knew that in that unrighteousness of the white race/arab white, lies their eventual death. Just to prove to you, Muhammad never wrote the hadith, the hadith is filled with what some people say Muhammad said. google the hadith and find out when it was written or made. How the problems in the Islamic arab which is affecting most of the african nation is based on the hadith and not the Quran.

Like i said, the bible is made for us with a alot of fiction and film tricks, all just to lock the blackman into deep sleep, to self loothe himself, they went as far as to say we are the generations of ham, son of Noah that laughed at his father's unclothlessness and thus was cursed with black face. did you call that racist? i bet at a point in time, you must have accepted the lies. the film tricks and fictions they gave is fire talking with Moses, the ten commandment on a template just happen to appear from thin air, a bird flew over Jesus, and a voice came from somewhere in the cloud, who spoke?
If Adam and Eve were the first set of couple and they are white, where then did the japanese, chinese, indians, arabians (all darker people with more dominant gene) come from? Let alone the black nation.
In the face of truth, the guilty get very scared and angry. This is not at all racism sir, this is the truth, besides the black nation don't race, we have forever (The alpha and the omega). Don't where the greatness of the blackman at, study your own history and how they(the other races came to be) and do your own part.
There is so much falsehood in ur comment, u just can't be serious with this nonsense . I did notice some parts where u tried to use Taqiyya to deceive me, like the whole black face curse and the race of Adam and eve (by the way their race was never mentioned in the bible). I have decided you are too far gone in your conspiracy theories to be taken seriously. And from what I can see you don't knw much about mohhammed, approximately 6 million people are leaving Islam in the middle east and north Africa every year as more translations of the authentic haddiths become easily avaliable to study online. I suggest u start studying about mohhammad from your earliest sources and the first 3 generations of Muslims, not this 21st century watered down stories of him, so you can learn the truth and be set free.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 6:37pm On Dec 15, 2014
gatiano:
There are a lot of black face, only the arabs and the caucasians depicted them as something else. of what businesses do human have with animals? talking snake talking donkey, sheep, lamb etc or refers to people, i am not saying they are refer to black people alone, the animals that Jacob grafted in genesis are all people. The GOD, the angels, The three wise men of Jesus story, all these are black people. Who appeared to Moses at the burning fire? who were the son of men? Do you ever believe that a person has an eagles' wings? Who appeared before Muhammad in the Mountains? Who taught Muhammad how to read? Who was that creator that created everything? The blackman was created, it can also be used to mean procreated. the bible taught us that some people were made in GOD'S image thus we have "mankind", when the whiteman says mankind, do you think he is including the black people? or the word human (hue of man/hue man) hue of blackness. The blackman is the owner and creator of judiasm, Gospel, and Islam. Islam was from the beginning of time. Our history or past is just too good that blackman is in doubt, but all other races are spending billions and trillions so that we may to reconnect to our past. WE ARE THE ANCIENT OF DAY.TAKE IT AND BE PROUD OF YOUR FATHERS AND YOURSELF AND GOD!
Please read this ur comment again and see how incredibly racist and flawed your arguement is. Do you know if u call Mohamed a black man in certain parts of the middle east you will be stoned, killed. Infact one popular scholar , I forget his name says it amounts to Sirkh. If u are a moslem u should knw what sirkh means.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think There Will Be Sex In Heaven. by Ifeann(f): 5:48pm On Dec 15, 2014
freeDR:
I didn't mean it, sister. Just making a joke. However, thanks for the exposition.
Hey BRother u can't joke about your salvation. Abeg it is risky. Cheers
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think There Will Be Sex In Heaven. by Ifeann(f): 5:43pm On Dec 15, 2014
asalimpo:
typical hypocritcal christian answer.
So s*x isnt a pleasurable activity for its own sake.
It has to b for "procreation"?

Meanwhile, most christians are silently indulging in illicit s*x or burng with l.ust while maintaing this attitude.
What does my explanation have to do with sex being only for procreation and not for pleasure.
You missed the meaning of my explanation because you let ur carnal mind jump to a totally unrelated idea.
Let me guess, you are a moslem. Only a guess, I could be wrong. If you are let me explain why u focus too much on sex.
A certain prophet u follow, has a collection of hadiths which I have read passages of, I knw of a certain Aisha who was married to him at 6, but he waited until she was 9 before sex, what a long wait. That same "prophet" told his followers they can have sex with their Married captives which their right hand possessed (rape of slaves), the same man told his followers NOT to have more than 4 wives but went ahead and had 11 wives(according to authentic hadiths), and let's not forget about Sophia, and the promise of 72 virgins in paradise and of course the perpetual erections , the stories of sex goes on and on, little wonder why your kind just dwell on sex and its pleasures.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 5:24pm On Dec 15, 2014
bolaino:
hmmmm, LOST SOUL. And by the way, where you there when hitler made the purported statementshuh? And you can not justify the actions of the knights templars during the crusades, they were blood thirsty and vengeful.
You asked, "And by the way, where you there when hitler made the purported statementshuh? "
Are u actually trying to defend hitler..lol. Even contemporary atheists condemn him. Apparently u don't knw hitler was an author, and has one of the lowest rated biography in the world. He constantly spoke on radio and wait for it, TV. Yes all these have his quotes and statements for the historians to pounder. He was an atheist just as you present yourself. The ultimate logical conclusion of atheism is eugenics(this is my opinion), where a human will determine who lives or dies for their concept of human continuity, hitler demonstrated this very well. How can u be satisfied with a life build on the pillars of relativism, individualism, nihilism and hedonism. There is more to life than just existing by accident as a lump of cells.
Please learn more about Christ and why God had to send his word to the world and how his word became flesh and dwelt amongst us.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 5:07pm On Dec 15, 2014
bolaino:
hmmmm, LOST SOUL. And by the way, where you there when hitler made the purported statementshuh? And you can not justify the actions of the knights templars during the crusades, they were blood thirsty and vengeful.
Hey dude ,
U need to study about the crusades, it was terrible, yes. But do you have any idea what caused it. Do some reading. Google "why we are afraid, by DR. Bill Warner ". Its an excellent you tube lecture on the topic. Either way, Jesus never commanded the crusades, it was a human invention. However, a certain prophet commanded jihad which is still goin on to this very day. That is 1400years and counting. Do u knw as we speak a jihadist is holding 50 people hostage in an Australian cafe right now.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 4:30pm On Dec 15, 2014
macof:
Come on, open ur blocked brain for once.

Who's talking about European wars against Arab muslims?
Many of those wars were fought alongside pagan Europeans.

Talk about Wars of Christian Europeans against innocent pagan clans and tribes
How the So called holy Roman empire dealt a huge blow to Europe and world development , it's killing of the innocent, it's corruption, it's lies, crimes against human rights

Only a complete mind with lack of empathy would not feel the need to rebuke christianity for it's crimes against humanity
Hey, you don't need to get personal, no need for insults(I knw a lot of people here feel the need to be rude to make a point).
Reply with maturity and like an adult (if you are one) and then we may share greater insights on the topic. But I shall forgive u and reply.
I started by asking the OP to show me any where in the world people are stealing, raping and causing disaffection in the name of Jesus as he claims and passages from scripture to back it up. NONE will be provided because their is NONE. However I can show tons of passages from the quran. No doubt some unfortunate events have occurred in the past by "Christians" but so has it been for the moslems, even atrocities committed by the ottoman empire for a thousand years up until the 1900s, atheism has brought us mass murders like Stalin, hitler, moa, Kim Jun lL and so so many more with over 200million dead between them.
But like a smart person has already mentioned in this forum, u can't condemn the nigerian constitution because some nigerians or even a majority of nigerians are corrupt, or commit murder.

A lot of churches are sending tons of charitable donations, life lines and creating programmes to help the poor and destitute (even the secular magazine The economist admits the catholic church has the number one position in this regard on their article criticising the catholic church finances). However a few people chose to only remember what happened centuries ago.
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Veneration Of The Dead - Warning !!! Graphic Images Shown by Ifeann(f): 8:57am On Dec 15, 2014
Doyean:
this is a clear evidence that the true religion in this world is ISLAM

It can NOT be, I have done several comparisms between christainity, Islam and atheism. I have read passages from ur book. Several are very disturbing. The only ideology worse than Islam is atheism.
I will give u some passages from your Koran & hadith .
Islam: "it is NOT fitting for the prophet and those who believe that they should pray for forgiveness for pagans, even though they be kin(family)...", sura 9 ayah 113. so here Muslims aren't allowed to pray for their own family members if they are unbelievers. Christains are commanded to ceaselessly pray for everything.

Islam: Muslims are commanded to beat their wifes if they fear rebellion from them (quran 4:34).

Islam: Muslims are commanded to be " severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves (quran 48:29)

Muslims are commanded to kill aposates(those who leave Islam); this is common practise with cults, fortunately most Muslims in Nigeria
Don't practise this.
There are several passages like this, it is little wonder why true practising muslims are filled with so much hate.

every denomination has it's mess , if ANGLICAN ARE NOT DOING GAY MARRAIGE
METHODIST WILL BE DOING CULTISM , JEHOVA WITNESS WILL BE DOING THAT.

A lot of Anglicans are against gay marriage(this has infact divided the Anglican church), I don't knw much abt Methodists but Jehova withness are a cult that deny the divinity of Christ and hence share that in common with Islam.
Please tell me how this is different from shites, sunnis, alwaites, Ahmedies (sorry if I misspelt)

ONE THING I WANT US TO UNDERSTAND WHICH IM NOT FORCING DOWN ON
ANYBODY'S THROAT . THE WORD CHRISTAINITY IS A WAY OF LIFE NOT A RELIGION

Yes my brother in humanity, Christianity is a way of life. Christ says he is the way, the truth and the life.
He also said, "I am the light of the world. He who follows me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life" John 8:12

AS WE "NIGERIANS" ARE TAKING IT WE TEND TO WORSHIP HUMAN RATHER THAN GOD
THE WHITE THAT BROUGHT THIS RELIGION TO THIS COAST TEND TO TAKE US FOR A FOOL
GO DOWN TO THEIR END THEY DONT TAKE THIS AS WE TOOK IT DOWN HERE BUT THEY ARE
MORE SINCERE AND THEY ARE GROWING EVERYDAY

Before the coming of the Gospel to our part of the world according to Nigerian peoples and culture pg.10 the natives where killing twins, performing human sacrifice, ritual murder, consulting corrupt oracles and some terrible burial rites. I thank God they brought the gospel and set my people free from darkness.

SO FELLAS IS BETA YOU TAKE THE GOLD WITH THE SHIT
because YOU CANT SEPERATE THEM OR LEAVE THEIR SHIT

AND ACCEPT ISLAM OR OGUN OR OBATALA
BUT THE BEST OF ALL IS THE RELIGION OF
LIGHT AND PEACE because THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN IN
STONE OR DARK AGE
You need to study more abt how Islam came to Africa and Nigeria, how may people had to die, get beheaded and sold into slavery

THAT IS WHY THE WEST AND THE AMERICANS KEPT ON
BLACKMAILING THEM AS TERRORIST AND CALLED THEIR
OWN VERSION CRUSADE RUBBISH AND NONSENSE

Please how is America blackmailing them (moslems) as terrorists when they are killing Christians in Iraq and Syria, Pakistan and Afghanistan, Egypt and Lebanon,and several other moslem countries
If u read ur Koran passages (9:29, 9:73, 48:29) and many more. You shall see the commands to murder the unbelievers.

IF YOU THINK I HAVE WRITTEN NON- SENSE PLEASE REMOVE
THE NON- AND TAKE THE SENSE OUT OF IT
You have expressed ur opinion, a lot of it is nonsense to be honest; and I suspect u know.

ACCEPT ISLAM TODAY TODAY TODAY, THE DOOR IS STILL OPEN
Why would someone accept bondage. Have u read your Koran in English, not classical Arabic recitation of gibberish

Please learn more about Christ and why God had to send his word to the world and how his word became flesh and dwelt amongst us. He also warned us abt false prophets and the anti Christ.
Peace to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think There Will Be Sex In Heaven. by Ifeann(f): 10:49am On Dec 14, 2014
DDeliverer:
Can you explain Gen6 to us; thank you.
I think the passage is very clear, these angels thought they could have an earthly experience and go back to heaven(their reason I don't knw explicitly). However we all knw what became of them. This further proves that as spiritual beings in heaven after our earthly life we are above such carnal things and hence sex can't be expected in heaven. I frankly believe my perfect God has much more than such carnal activities in store for believers in heaven.
If anyone has a different opinion which can be backed up with scripture please do share.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think There Will Be Sex In Heaven. by Ifeann(f): 10:01am On Dec 14, 2014
freeDR:
There needs to be, or else, I ain't going.
I suspect u are a "christain". However since u said you are not interested in heaven if their isn't sex (may God forgive you) , u may want to try Islam where the men are promised 72 virgins and perpetual erections according to the haddits , if u want to believe such nonsense.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think There Will Be Sex In Heaven. by Ifeann(f): 9:56am On Dec 14, 2014
Be careful so that u don't blaspheme. Sex is something expected of us mortal and carnal humans to performed as married people in order to fulfil the command in genesis, " Go forth and multiply". We are not expected to multiply in heaven like in our carnal state. We will be spirits basking in the glory of God, son and holy spirit. Please read Mathew 22 :23 for a similar question asked to Jesus, and his reply in Mathew 22 :29 . Jesus replied we shall be like angels in heaven. The bible contains all the answers we need so please read it more. Have a nice sunday.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 9:31am On Dec 14, 2014
I challenge the OP to show me any where in the world people are stealing, raping and causing disaffection in the name of Jesus as he claims. And while he is at it, show me a single passage in the holy bible where Christians are commanded to do that. The catholic church has apologised for the crusades, I have studied the crusades and I knw why it happened, its unfortunate but if it didn't happen we may all be living under the oppression of Islam today; as they plundered and conquered the middle east , eastern Europe and north Africa murderin christains as they are commanded to do (read quran 9:73 , quran 48:29, ) . Please do some research, devote a few dozen hours studying Christianity, Islam and atheism; and by the grace of God through our lord Jesus Christ your mind will be open to the truth on this matter. Have a nice sunday.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Islam, Are The World's Most Dangerous Religions. by Ifeann(f): 9:16am On Dec 14, 2014
Please don't be deceived by this lost soul.
Hitler wasn't a Christian, he was born one but rejected the faith and cursed christainity up until the end of his short miserable life.
All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 67)
10th October, 1941, midday:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)
14th October, 1941, midday:
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianitythe liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)
19th October, 1941, night:
The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.
21st October, 1941, midday:
Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus'doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, gays? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)
13th December, 1941, midnight:
Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery........ When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118119)

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