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Christianity Etc › Re: Why We Must Stop Defending Pastors by ifenes(m): 11:02pm On Mar 23, 2017

Pastors are meant to destroy spiritualism.

Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 11:00pm On Mar 23, 2017

knowyaself2:
I'm afraid, your first sentence applies to you.
There's no God but yourself. If you think there's an old man with white beard sitting on a throne in the sky, watching your every move and judging you, then you are far from the truth.
Have you demystified the story of the garden of Eden? BTw all stories in the bible are mostly allegories and corruption of spiritual facts to mislead. The tree in garden of Eden story, represents the human soul, with its trunk being symbolic of the spine . The prohibited fruit which Eve gave to Adam is meditation and its results. Meditation leads to self empowerment and attainment of godhead. The serpent is satan, the teacher of the mystery of godhead and eternal life.
Moreover, God is the all encompassing energy; has no personality. It is nature, a divine force that can be mastered and made useful. It lives in you and can be activated if you have the knowledge. Aliens or extraterrestrials have gained mastery over this force. Demons and satan are real beings, they are extraterrestrials.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Likely An Atheist,todays Pastors Are The Pharisees by ifenes(op): 10:58pm On Mar 23, 2017

hahn:
Yeah sha but the people you are trying to explain this to believe he is real. That obstacle has to be crossed for them to even be able to understand where you are going

My point is, Jesus being real or fake is not the issue. The messenger/ teacher shouldn't be the focus, but the message. The message is all about being fully human, being fully enhanced for us to activate our full human abilities. The story of Jesus, Esu, Sango, Buddah are to help human see that it is possible to be complete humans. I compare it to an atheist who experiment and try Inge out rather wait for gods.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Likely An Atheist,todays Pastors Are The Pharisees by ifenes(op): 4:18pm On Mar 22, 2017

hahn:
Exactly. So how can a fictional character be an atheist?

I am objectifying the character, doesn't mean it is real. I'm seeing a person who opposed the laws of the Jews. He can be real or fake but the story shows the character was rebelliou in many ways.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Likely An Atheist,todays Pastors Are The Pharisees by ifenes(op): 3:29pm On Mar 22, 2017

hahn:
Ifenes, you mean the same Jesus that never existed?

The same product of the council of Nicea?

He probably didn't exist or they combined stories of several character.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Likely An Atheist,todays Pastors Are The Pharisees by ifenes(op): 12:51pm On Mar 22, 2017

luvmijeje:
Again I will state the 2 greatest commandments Jesus gave to us his followers.

30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

It means love yourself

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Likely An Atheist,todays Pastors Are The Pharisees by ifenes(op): 12:50pm On Mar 22, 2017

tripplephi:
JESUS WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN.....

HEY FUNNY BRO HOW come you omitted these:

That
Jesus actually attended synagogue and they pushed him out

Jesus actually never spoke against the synagogue but against corrupt pharisees

Jesus healed the sick and did miracles in the name OF THE SAME GOD the pharisees and Sadducee were talking of.

Jesus spoke of God as a Father and of his GREAT LOVE.

YET your darkened mind can dare to allocate the title ATHEIST anywhere near JESUS.... my guy simply shut your trap. You do not know enough to even hiss on this matter.

JESUS BROKE ONLY THE SELFISH RELIGIOUS LAWS AND TOTALLY EXPLAINED WHY THE MOSES LAWS HAD TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE GOD GAVE MOSES THE LAWS DUE TO THE PEOPLE'S WICKEDNESS.

I could attend a church service if I want. But you must understand that it was a taboo then not to go to the synagogue. In fact the sabbath day was criticised by Jesus. It's like being an atheist student of Convenant University in Nigeria. You will got to their Christian services but know in your heart that it isn't necessary. He had to obey the laws of the land. " Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar or give to god what belongs to god" didn't mean he condoled it but that in a time when people get put to death for going against that.

He helped people heal themselves by helping them activate their hidden powers. He said what he did you can do better, didn't he say that?

Stop being emotional!

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Christianity Etc › Jesus Was Likely An Atheist,todays Pastors Are The Pharisees by ifenes(op): 12:26pm On Mar 22, 2017

When I take a close look at the story of Jesus and how he was seen as a Rebel to the laws of Yahweh and his puppets, it is not hard to see a dude who didn't care about the weekly rituals we see today in churches. He did not only promote self love and self empowerment, he actually showed the people the secret to his God abilities. He made he let them know that only their believe(in themselves) can solve their problem. He wasn't about worshiping a God but showing good example like; The Good Samaritan. The Samaritans were seen as enemies to the Jew and we know that such people were the ones Yahweh would have asked them to destroy, but the story said Jesus felt they could get along just fine

Lets imagine Jesus being there when Yahweh commanded the killing of the people of Jericho. Would he have supported the killing? No he wouldn't. Or lets say the phrase "suffer not the witch to live",would have been totally different, going to war and raping innocent women would have been a no no unlike Yahweh liked it. This got me thinking.......

The Pharisees were careful students of the Jewish law. They always wanted to obey the law. Perhaps they remembered what God had done, years before. He had punished people who did not obey the law. He allowed their enemies to defeat them. So the Pharisees wanted to obey the agreement that God had made with his people. They would even die for the law. They trusted God to bring them to the resurrection. Their religion was really about behaviour. Their law had hundreds of rules about the way to live. The rules were very strict.

Same applies to the pastors today. The fear of God is all they preach every week to keep their sheep in line just as the Pharisees of old did. Pay tithes or else god will be angry are old fashion rules that are radical. Can we really say a guy who stopped a woman from being stoned to death would throw her into a lake of fire? That's not possible! But the bible shouldn't be taken literally

While somethings using the term"god" to the people around him(otherwise he would have been stoned to death earlier) he gave hidden messages that were all about Love.LOVE indeed is the key to unlocking the true God in us and giving to the less privilege is giving to God,not the offering box.

At the of his journey, just like it can happen to any Atheist,the people voted they crucified him rather than the thief because he spoke against their god. He was killed because he was against the same laws the christians follow today.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Explain These? by ifenes(m): 11:37am On Mar 22, 2017

pressplay411:
Funny it all started with the recent suicide by the doctor that jumped off the 3rd mainland bridge. Some felt it was a spiritual attack.
It suddenly culminated into argument with some colleagues and these questions posed a conundrum. Any explanations?

1. Reincarnation
We've heard stories of a husband whose wife decided to trace his background by going to his hometown with his picture only to be told he had died years ago and was even taken to his burial ground. Upon return to her home, the husband had vanished and never to be seen again.

2. Odeshi
I'm sure we've all heard that bullets bounced of certain warriors, armed robbers and even cultists. How does this Odeshi work?

3. Witchcraft & Marine Spirits
No matter where you grew up in the world, there's a witch near you. Usual suspects are the old women and the very young. Of course there's always one confession in church.
And we've all heard of men who picked up hitchhikers only for them to transform in the middle of the night.

4. Rituals
The name Ezeego rings bells across the nation for money rituals. People go to extreme lengths to escape poverty. From sacrificing close relatives to kidnapping unlucky victims, one-chance buses, etc.

Are these mere hearsays or actual occurences?
I'm of the opinion that Nollywood is to blame but my colleagues claim they know some people who experienced these.

These are stuff folks should have been taught as kids. But religion destroys knowledge and produces confused adults.

Reincarnation is part of life cycle and shouldn't be a big deal. Every life forms are linked, we live in the "Now" in parallel realities. Every possible lives we are living are happening now.Reincarnation is an Illusion like Time that helps us experience them in separate time. Defeat the Illusion of Time and you will will see the hall of pictures.

You cannot teach this to an adult who's mind is polluted or a hardcore christian who has been severely brainwashed. Jesus,Moses etc are the same people just as you are the same as them. you are Jesus,Fela and everyone you have come across. Time the great illusionist makes you think you are different. Hence the Phrase; "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF" because you are your neighbour.

Rituals,Odeshi etc are all aspects of you. What you call good and evil are an aspect of you. What ever you believe in is what you will attract. Those who think charms are potent are unconsciously shifting to a "parallel" world where it will work on them. Your belief defines what you experience.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Lion Of The Tribe Of Judah by ifenes(m): 11:16am On Mar 22, 2017

Lion of the Tribe of Judah is an astrological representation of the months of August,when the Sun is warmest in Europe. The month of Leo/Lion. 12 signs of the Zodiac is the same as the 12 tribes of Israel,they mean the same periods of Energy change. The Sun God is agressive as a Lion during this month.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 9:28pm On Mar 21, 2017

Amberon:
Who told you we don't know God? Lol. It baffles me how ignorant you are about christianity but yet claim to be "all knowing".

Till date, there's no human who has lead a more exemplary life than Christ. And you say we shouldn't follow his commandments? Okay. Should we then go about killing people, stealing, bombing, being deceitful etc? Excuse me, do you have a problem with the commandments. ?

Of HIS kingdom there shall be no end. Do you expect God to die for us to take over? Do you not realize that spirits cannot die?

There you go again. Christ is not a name but a state of Spiritual awareness. I am Ife Christ when I reach that state of simplicity and alignment with my true self. Christ means light, illumination, the way one should be if you want to be in tune with you Godself.

Many humans have lived this life and are still living it. Stop living a life of denial, only you can free yourself. You don't know your God, if you did you will know it's you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 6:22pm On Mar 21, 2017

MZLady39:
Okay my brother. I'm well aware of the definition. You've got a lot going on here that I cannot agree with
However, I want to look at the your use of "wording". Cause you are making this seem like a sci-fi/action movie and it can confuse lots of people.

14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
We are unable to see spirits although they exist because it is a spiritual warfare.

But you are entitled to your opinion sir.

There is no such no such thing as demonic spirit,Spirit is always pure..... but anyway, all the best

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Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 6:20pm On Mar 21, 2017

Amberon:
Wrong!

Would you call the child of a president a slave? No! Or the child of a king? No!

How much more the child of the creator. As Christians, we are heirs of the father and joint heirs with Christ the Son. We are a royal priesthood. So nobody is being a slave to God and this is evident by the free will we have.

However, anyone without God, is already enslaved by the devil as he possesses their mind and blinds them from the reality of God.

Noted, but the child knows the father and will grow into an adult and also become a father or mother. But you guys are "children of of god" forever, following silly commandments like slaves. You don't even know your god anyway

Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 5:59pm On Mar 21, 2017

Amberon:
Delusion of grandeur. Lmao!

So if I'm the true "God" that makes me the creator of the universe yeah?

And who made the god who made you? God is you, but you have the right to be enslaved to your objectified god

Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 5:58pm On Mar 21, 2017

MZLady39:
What exactly are we calling "aliens" though? Please give me some scriptural examples.
Because the Book of Revelation has tons of figurative (not literal) language in it.

ALIEN mean foreign to an environment. It isn't a bad thing but just mean someone who did not originate from a particular world, society,or environment. The book of Genesis itself is about ALIENS interaction with humans. The Sons of God look down on the daughters of me(obviously from flying crafts). The wheel within a wheel witnessed by Ezekiel is another example of an Alien body moving the the sky, or Chariot of fire used to transport Elijah to another world. What do we call that if not a fly craft?

Do not be deceived by the term Demons and Satan,lets just call them "Rebels" Those who oppose the other races of aliens who had different agendas for planet Earth. Its like calling the Talibans Demons and the U.S.A God

See Rev 16:12-21

The so called Demons and God battle is only a battle for territory just as it is today. Anyone who wins gets to enslave the other, impose themselves as gods on the poor humans

Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 5:48pm On Mar 21, 2017

Amberon:
No he's not. And you know more about my "GOD" than Christians do.

You seem to be more deluded than the religion people you condemn.

The true God is yourself, but your objectified god is Yahweh who drove in space crafts(pillar of clouds) following Moses about. You are not a Christian but a child of Yahweh who's commandments you follow. At the same time you are a Sun worshiper, you worship (your unknown) god on Sundays. Prove me wrong! You pay tithe to the priests who guide the temple of Yahweh who is a tyrant and manipulator without question.

A christian is a person who has activated his hidden God power, someone who has broken the illusion of organised religion, someone who knows he is God. Talk moving mountains, walking on serpents are attributes of a God. A person who calls him/herself a "child of god" is a puppet who needs help. Such a person reports to a pastor for guidance like an infant who is yet to mature. 30 years of going to church and you cannot overcome a simple problem mean you are on the wrong path brother. Be wise as a serpent!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 5:33pm On Mar 21, 2017

Amberon:
Its 2017 and you're still deluded. Any christian who doubt's the existence of aliens is not a Christian. Aliens and extraterrestrials are there in the bible so don't even for a second think you know the bible more than Christians.

And by the way, stop cherry picking what to believe about the bible. You either believe everything or nothing. You cannot be in between. Its called confusion.

Okay you know your god is a a member of a race of aliens from other world,how is that a problem with me? chill dude

Christianity Etc › Re: Lifting Spiritual Loads by ifenes(m): 5:31pm On Mar 21, 2017

You cannot lift a spiritual load. Thinking you are means your are psychologically unbalanced. There is no God outside of you, fix yourself or remain unfixed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Facts About Earth And Aliens by ifenes(m): 2:57pm On Mar 21, 2017

I posted some verses of the Bible that supported your claim. The only problem I have with Muslims and Christians is how they failed to see the pictures of Alien life written all over the Bible and Koran. I mean take a look at the book of Revelations,the evidence is mind blowing.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Definition Of Christian by ifenes(m): 11:55am On Mar 21, 2017

When will Christians learn to be themselves, their true selves and stop being "obedient" to a god? ( who supposly gave free will ) Only zombies act to instructions. Instructions are for learners and not experts. 40 years of going to church and nothing to show for it is a failure. Same applies to Muslims.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Definition Of Christian by ifenes(m): 11:50am On Mar 21, 2017

Normally a student graduates into a master,but you see Christians learning from the pastor for years on repeated topics. Too much teaching leads to manipulation. When will you stop reading he bible and start writing your own books? To be a master, you must stop being a follower.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Definition Of Christian by ifenes(m): 11:46am On Mar 21, 2017

There is no true Christian. But there are followers of Jesus.

A true Christian is someone I would refer to as a graduate of the teachings of Self. Someone who has learned to activate the hidden God in him/her. Someone who now moves mountain( desolves problems with ease) Is wise as snake( doesn't need guidians or the need to go to visit a designated building every Sunday). Basically is now a God,because Christ is a state at which a person is God( full activation of hidden talents)

But the fake Christian( follower of Jesus) think he must worship God on Sunday. Meanwhile all he does is worship the Sun on Sunday's as per the name " Sunday". He thinks he must read the bible and pray to God. Little did he know that there isn't a god but only him/ her can be a God. The fake Christian has been fooled for years, he/she is a pupil who needs to be fed all the time. 20 years of going to church and he is still a "child of God" but never an adult.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God by ifenes(op): 5:55pm On Mar 20, 2017

Horus:
Stop and think one moment. The name God is not really in the bible. If this is not an English book written by Englishmen, it’s not there; it was added. You are reading a translation. You will also find that God, whether you have a big G, or little g, is not being used in the singular tense, as Eloh or Allah. The beings spoken of in the bible and Koran are the Elohim, the plural of Eloh.

True, the term " God" was never used by Moses or his people. They called him/ Them " Lord" which also means "Master" never God. But for the Christians to understand I had to use the term "god". I personally will say Elohim(plural)

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Christianity Etc › The Christian God by ifenes(op): 3:54pm On Mar 20, 2017

Hear my story before you stone me to death. I am here to help those confused about the true identities of the christian gods, trust me its interesting. The truth is always with you,never far away. You only need to read with an open mind.

Some people believe in Extratterestrials and even go as far as claiming the bible god is one of many ETs who have visited this very planet in the past. Some people don`t. Well lets see what the christian`s favorite book says about that.

Note; theses passages are in the Bible and doubters are free to confirm themselves.

Ezekiel,a well respected prophet of the christians has something to say and I will urge people to rsee his description of his god, the Christian god.

"15 Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground by each of the living creatures with its four faces. 16 The wheels and the way they were made were like this: They looked like sparkling chrysolite. All four of them looked the same, like one wheel crossways inside another wheel. 17 When they moved, they went in any one of the four directions, without turning as they went. 18 The rims of the wheels were high and frightening and were full of eyes all around.

19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels moved beside them. When the living creatures were lifted up from the ground, the wheels also were lifted up. 20 Wherever the spirit would go, the living creatures would go. And the wheels were lifted up beside them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 21 When the living creatures moved, the wheels moved. When the living creatures stopped, the wheels stopped. And when the living creatures were lifted from the ground, the wheels were lifted beside them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels." Ezekiel chapter 1

Now that says a lot. If you do not understand that, the respected Prophet of the Christians,Kumuyi,Adeboye and co claimed his god made use of a vehicle to move about. Wherever he goes the vehicle goes with him-up,down,sideways,they go the same directions. Spacefcraft? There is no need to say that being in that wheel was flesh and blood. A spirit wouldn't`t need a vehicle after all. Draw your own conclusion.

Exodus 14:24
"At the morning watch, the LORD looked down on the army of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and cloud and brought the army of the Egyptians into confusion."

This "christian god" happened to travel in something similar to what Ezekiel described as the Wheel within the Wheel. But we will look further into this Piller of Cloud so we that we can have an idea of what it is exactly. The next Paragraph will let us know if the "christian god" resides in this "pillar of cloud"

Exodus 33:9
"Whenever Moses entered the tent, the pillar of cloud would descend and stand at the entrance of the tent; and the LORD would speak with Moses."

There it is! The god of the christians made use of the cloud and would speak to Moses whenever he chose to give instruction on how his cow offering should be roasted? Or when he want`s his virgins sent to him?

Exodus 33:10
"When all the people saw the pillar of cloud standing at the entrance of the tent, all the people would arise and worship, each at the entrance of his tent."

The same dude who gave them the 10 commandment probably. This is obviously an ET, don`t you think guys?

Judges 1;
"19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." The same piller of cloud couldn't`t do much there sad

Moving away from Moses,lets see what Isaiah thinks.

Conclusion; Do not forget sons of god who looked down on the daughters of men and also made sure the Tower of Babel was destroyed, all flew in the sky.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ God? by ifenes(m): 9:53pm On Mar 18, 2017

Yes and so are you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Highly Suspicious Damage Control Attempts By Apostle Suleman by ifenes(m): 12:35pm On Mar 13, 2017

Nigerians seem to respect their pastors( Psychic vultures) too much. It is obvious He is trying to cover up his tracks. But this time he is going down.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Importance Of Being Thankful To God Through Charity by ifenes(m): 11:08am On Mar 12, 2017

Commandments are made by monsters/tyrants. You cannot say you God gave you freewill and commandmends. That's contradictory. You love God because of fear, because you have been told if you don't you will go to hell fire

Charity Shouldn't be a big deal or something you must do. You don't have to......being a part of life itself is already a great service. When you give to others you give to yourself because they are another version of you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Throws Cash From His BMW Jeep While Performing In Anambra. Pics/video by ifenes(m): 9:09pm On Mar 06, 2017

Money donated by the poor sprayed around freely by the pastor. I thought the money was meant to be with god? I guess I was wrong.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Compulsory For Me To Pay Tithe As A Student From My Small Allowance? by ifenes(m): 10:22am On Mar 05, 2017

jaymejate:
Please, i need a Godly, Moral advice on this.

I'm still a student and i am willing to give to God but my allowance is very small.
After removing money for handouts, textbooks and assignments, the left over is little that it might not last 5 days. Should i still go ahead and give the tithe?

What is wrong with Africans ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Feel I Am Being Punished By A Supreme Force(depressed) by ifenes(m): 1:33pm On Mar 03, 2017

lifeispeace:
Good evening nairalanders...
I am an atheist as many contradictions in the bible coupled with real life experiences and other people's ideology have made me seriously doubt the existence of God..
But as of late,I feel everything I do is being made a failure..
I graduated since 2014 with a 2'1 but can't get a job, living itself is a problem as bills are piled up and everything I do seems a failure..

My mum once told me that because I refuse to believe in God I will not get what I look for,although I outrightly dismissed this motion...
But of recent,everything I do is bouncing back...

Atheist in the house, what's your take on this..
And please no xtian should come preach about punishment here ....please
Hardmirror, ifenes,seun and other atheist...

You are obviously not destined for failure,no one is. But there are factors that lead to the experience of lack, failure etc. From young age we have been programmed to think in a certain way and what to expect and what not to expect. The mind has therefore been indirectly programmed for failure. Most times we create all the problems we have, whether consciously or unconsciously. You must train yourself to be what you want to be. Let your mind decide, not your environment or beliefs. You are the Mathematician( problem solver), you are in control,not the problem.

Changing ones's negative mindset to positive doesn't happen overnight, it takes time. You need coaching and training in the mist of negative minded people.

You will need to cultivate new habits, you must learn to think wild and free. Avoid resistant to new ways of thinking.

Success comes in various forms. We want abundance but often misinterpret it to come with money. You don't really need jobs or money to have everything you want. Sometimes they come as gifts or a reward for your talent. The focus on money alone will often lead to disappointments.

When you become strong with your mindset( mind power) and you are now in a state where you can manifest what you want,you will start intentionally creating problems to solve them for fun. Life is the way we think it.

What you are going through is an opportunity for you to feel excited and find something to solve. The Solution is there with you. Use it!

Lastly, a winning mentality is very important. Before a task,see yourself as a winner. Winning at all cost is important in life.

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Education › Re: How To Increase Your Vocabulary Skills by ifenes(m): 12:17pm On Mar 03, 2017

How can I improve my Yoruba? I would rather speak bad English and excellent Yoruba.

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Christianity Etc › Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by ifenes(m): 2:06pm On Mar 01, 2017*

CROWNWEALTH019:
“The worst moment for an atheist is when he is really thankful and has no one to thank.”

― G.K. Chesterton

It is a slave mentality to think you need to thanks someone for what you already have. If at all you need to thank anyone, thank yourself for the experience.

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