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Melchizedek1:
God is spiritual and not religious, religion is just a part of spiritualism.

What are you if God is a spirit?

Which God is passing judgement on other gods? Who passes judgement on this god you see as suprem? You said religion will end, if it does that means a god will be irrelevant, wouldn't it?

enshy:
Is it as lame as asking who created God?

It isn't

Wilgrea7:
energy... please can you explain..

Emotions are forms of Melleabke Energy that is in a process of turning into negative or positive matter. Depression is an emotion an if a person puts him/ herself through this, it leads into negative result like mental disorder etc. The only way to eliminate this is your restate ones thought pattern, because in every thing we undergo in life..... Out Thoughts( pure energy) leads to Feelings/ Emotions,which then leads to the physical( stuff we can see or experience


Thoughts=Emotions= Matter

It's not wrong for anyone to be depressed, it's only a symptom of mismanaged energy.

updatemachine:
are you really an atheist..? Just doubting...

For me... I believe in sorcery unlike most atheist here on NL... In the Quran also... Its a grave sin to use sorcery to manipulate stuffs...

Good though..

I know there is no God as religion believes. And talking about juju and sorcery, these are part of universal science and knowledge. I see nothing wrong in understanding how they work. Atheism is disbelieve in suprem gods, it's not really an identity.

updatemachine:
the question is requires a YES OR NO answer...

Future science..? Then Africans are way ahead of the whites scientists.. Ryt..?

Yes they are! But it has been left in the hand of the uneducated. What Africa has is "pure gold". It is the key to creating the mental paradise we all crave for.

lfleak:
Just want to know so I will know where to direct the interaction..

Time travell..?
Yea..I belief in it has it occurred 4 times as recorded in the Quran..you can look them up

Parable of the Hamlet of Ruins
Story of the Sleepers of the cave
Throne of Sheeba (Saba)
The Night Journey (Isra wal Miraj)

My point of opening this thread is still open o..
You mean all the proofs of God existence in the Quran has to do with extraterrestrial..? That's more ridiculous than most previous atheists claims...
The only living creature existing are: Man and Jinn

Sweet,I look up those Time Travel stories! thanks.

updatemachine:
do you believe in supernatural stuffs..? Juju...and the likes..?

I can explain them. Humans call them juju but I call them ancient Alchemy formulas that can be used to manipulate time and realities. Future science will explain it better.

lfleak:
Lol..sorry sir. Are you an atheist.? If yes..can you listen to yourself again..

What has being an Atheist got to do with it? Time travel, technology, spacecraft are all part of Science. I'm not acknowledging a god, I'm simply saying those men had encounters with Time travelers/ ETs. Einstein himself acknowledge the possibility of time travel. Is it possible for a person who lives in 4000 AD to travel back in time? Yes very possible! Can they meet with their ancestors and try to reshape the future? yes very possible! Perhaps the person who had an encounter with such a person will see him as a god? Yes it's possible. There comes Allah.

I'm sorry if this is too much for you.

updatemachine:
And here they come..

Always creating new words to suite their misfit...

Which one is extraterrestrial again.. You dump supernatural.. You take another one up...

So what your proof Enoch, Muhammad, Ezekiel had experience with the extraterrestrials...

Waiting..

You should use google rather than ask me. Google the book of Enoch and read the story of Ezikiel's encounter with the Wheel. It is not my duty to educate you on that sorry.

lfleak:
Atheists need to establish one thing first. That is, if the Author of the Quran is Man or God (supernatural being). The Quran was revealed 1400 years ago. Now, an atheist would confidently say that the author of the Quran is man. Muslims and the Quran itself claims “Allah” (God) is the Author.

Question atheist needs to ask him or herself is if it is possible for man (Muhammad) to have authored the Quran. For Muslims, they can easily hit atheists with a few points to ponder upon:

Muhammad just like Ezekiel and Enoch go their knowledge from Extratterestrials. I think Enoch was the most intelligent of the 3 I mentioned, reason being he did actually understand that the beings weren't gods. He saw them as being who gained knowledge over a period of time, hence his book was considered too dangerous and left out of the bible. The reason they took him with them because he was too intelligent to be human.

Muhammad was a good tool. He objectified the term God and was used to create a movement, a religion that could control the minds of billions of followers. That was a great achievement! To control the people, you must control their minds.

Humans are fascinated by the stars and our inquisitive nature yearns to know how the moon got there. Since they had limited knowledge it was easy to use someone like Muhammad to push the knowledge of human to a particular direction where they end up not getting the knowledge but acknowledging that someone superior to them holds the key life and death,he created them and they must worship him. That is a phycological conquest. Mohammed was a tool in achieving that.

1. Life in the universe is water based. More than half your body weight is water. Animals and plants on Earth are mostly water. All life in our universe also needs water. When scientists search for life on exoplanets they only look for planets with water; No water no life.

However Muslims knew about this 1400 years before it was discovered. [Quran 21.30]

Water covers about 71% of Earth's surface. This is also the same ratio the word "Sea" and word "Land" appear in the Quran. "Sea" 32 times and "Land" 13 times. The ratio of "Sea" to the total (Sea + Land) = 32/(32+13) = 71%. How does an atheist respond? TBA…

Life in the universe being water based is no reason to acknowledge Allah or and form of Gods. Our today's scientists who study the science of the universe haven't discovered 20% of SCIENCE itself. They are on the right path. But like I said, it is no big deal if it was written in the Muslim's holy book, the author claimed to have travelled on a flying horse ( spacecraft) and obviously he must have seen the earth like you would if your toured the world on an airplane.

2. Earth is a rotating sphere The Quran says that God spread out the Earth meaning increase in surface area during formation. 'Madda' in Arabic means 'spread out', however it was mistranslated to 'flat'.

Flat in Arabic is "musattah" and its verb (to make flat) is "sataha" however neither were used in the entire Quran. The Quran says that God spread out Earth, that is, increased the surface area. Our solar system is 4.57 billion years old. Earth started accreting concurrently with the sun and our neighbouring planets 4.57 bln years ago. However during the accretion process the radius of Earth was not spontaneously 6400 km; but rather started a few kilometers long and progressively increased.

But the surface area is a function of the radius, that is, as the radius increases the surface area increases (surface area = 4pR2). So the Quran correctly described the surface area as increasing. (This is contrary to the Christian Bible where the creation of Earth was spontaneous.)

Let the atheists think about these two points from the Quran. Let them come to a conclusion if these were possible by man to come up with in a desert, 1400 years ago.

The Quran just like the Bible were written by men who had encounters with people from the other end of the world. There is no big deal about these books unless you make it a big deal.

That's an indirect appreciation of yourself, the true Goddess that you are. Not necessarily a god

GoodMuyis:
You could have provide a lame answer as well, considering the below

Mine was a valid question because such a god does not exist. But your question is obviously lame. You want a proof your ancestor existed? That's lame!

KingEbukasBlog:
Exactly ! The men were trying access a portal - a gateway to Heaven , a different dimension . Even Babel ( bab-ilum) means "gate of God" .

Last time I tried explaining this to those lowbrows they called me "star-trek evangelist"

It's funny that you now believe this Ebuka! Remember I tried pointing this out to you several times in the past. I'm glad your eyes are opening tho. But you need to understand that the one God is actually in plural. They were called gods because they were technologically superior to the ancient humans. Compare today to 600 years back, you will be seen as superior to our ancestors and perhaps called a god. This is why God doesn't exist.

Indeed a lame question.

Not only were the gods scared of the potentials of the humans, they were also scared the humans were going to end up to be their nemesis. The ancient humans were aware of the genetic programs carried out by the ETs/ gods and if the found out how consciousness could be transferred into a boulogical body, that would have been the end of the Yahwehs and co. The humans would have created very intelligent bio being as armies to combat the gods.

Genesis has lots of interesting stories that if understood by humans, we will find out that the humans themselves killed some of the gods. They had to be stopped.

The Tower of Babel was a stargate to other dimensions and star systems. The humans if allowed would have had direct access to the various home planets/star systems of the various Extraterrestrial humanoids/ gods that colonised the planet back then.

Mind you, the ancient humans were themselves taught science, mathematics, geometry etc by the rebel faction of the ET gods in order to be intellectually advance enough to fight back the oppressing masters( the selfish ETs) but they didn't manage to win.

Their languages becoming confused was all about dis- uniting the humans with religion and beliefs like we have today. A United humans on this planet is a nightmare of the gods.

He is trying to pass a different message about his sexuality op not the tank top.

Look at his right foot, that's a message

Can only happen in a poor country

UyiIredia:
Based on the responses of atheists here and in the past and the crap from PastorAIO it is the same case as always. Same old, same old.

Seun's has been the best so far. His reply was the mozt comprehe sive as it addressed my premises and most of.my posers. ifenes is a disgrace to reason. JackBizzle and johnydon22, read his posts here and tell me you are ashamed. akintom is foolish but honestly I am used to his idiocy. I have encountered many atheists redefining consciousness as activities in the brain.

Maybe it is good I did not get much responses.

Next time don't ask for answers to questions your brain cannot handle. You have been miseducated and probably a damaged good. You aim is to curse at people you do not agree with and that will not work with me.

UyiIredia:
Consciousness is not energy. Energy is the ability of a physical system to do work. Energy does not and cannot vibrate only matter does. There is even vibrational energy which is energy from any vibrating phsyical thing.



You mean the gaseous state which transforms to liquid then solid.



Humans go through gaseous and liquid state abi! Even diamond? Nice!



I though you said man is God. Or is God real like steam?



SMH. Time and motion are not illusions.



Ebuka please tell me you did not like this post.

The attributes you give to god are the attributes of the totality of man/ animals etc. Physical reality is a tiny aspect of consciousness. What you call God is the " original state" the physical being ( man, animal , planets etc ). You don't sound like someone who is open minded enough to understand that God cannot be objectified. God is not a person or object but a quality that can be attained by Matter/ physical being/ human.

Time and motion are illusion. If you say they are not you need to go back to school. Time is a block on your God attribute of being everywhere at ones. Time is an illusionary barrier to living multiple lives at once. Time gave birth to reincarnation etc.

Because you are Consciousness itself ,the Universe is in you, physical reality radiates from your mind.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . The way you are slaying yasef here sha . If thoughts create your reality , then you shouldn't criticize someone who has tailored his thoughts to create his reality . His thoughts have now transmuted into his reality . The point is : Since you believe God is not real , God is not real to you ; if another believes God is real , God is real to him .

Now the problem is : what is real and false since our thoughts and beliefs create our reality ? And why are you correct about God's existence and why I'm I wrong
Please leave transfixed

Dude are you still a christian? You are too clever for that

UyiIredia:
I am a deist not a Christian. Everything is made of consciousness. Interesting. Explain this statement please.

Consciousness itself is the highest frequency Energy can Vibrate. It is similar to the "Steam" state of Energy that transforms to Liquid and then Matter(physical). Everything in life goes through these three phases depending on how high or low they vibrate. From God to Man or from Steam to Ice.

I will compare the Physical state as the Zombie state where Consciousness "seem to be" limited. It is a state which suppressed form of Energy experiences illusion of Time,Motions etc. The higher this Zombie vibrates, the more liquid like it becomes(awakening) and becomes Steam.

So Consciousness being the highest form of existence is the state at which a particle is one and everything.

Ages in the bible actually represents the astrological phases; the Aqurius Age is here that was predicted for a long time. The Ages will go in cycle for ever and ever until you manage to break the illusion of Time.

No one will come in the sky except the Sun

UyiIredia:
So you don't want to critically analyze your views or mine. Interesting!

I am open to discussion and I am aware it is sometimes no use to debate certain things as you are your personal teacher. What your strongly believes in is what is real for you.

UyiIredia:
Are you an atheist? I am asking because atheists are claim thry use logic and reason. You are not being logical.

I think the stars are made of vibrating cheese in outer space. Consider your statement true when this is observed by cosmologists and astronomers.

The only God I believe in is myself. My thoughts create my life and that is probably different to what people who call themselves Atheist think.I don't bother bashing a god that is not real. I understand the bible is not what you christians think it is, it is an astrological/metaphysical book. Everything is made of Consciousness and are vibrating, all works on how you train your mind

UyiIredia:
I don't like the fact you did not answer the questions. I hope other atheists don't follow your footsteps. Now to your points.



If you believe God caused everything this would be true. Otherwise, the universe exists whether there is consciousness or not.



Tell that to sleeping humans and dead humans.



What is this physical aspect of consciousness? Note that neither the brain or its actions are consciousness.



True.



Man is not eternal. He has not forever been conscious. Men are born and they die.



What do you mean? What consciousness is making the hologram?



They exist independent of our consciousness.



No. The painter is not the paint, he exists before the paint. The musician is not the music and does not need the music to exist. Not everything is energy. Consciousness isn't. Space isn't. Fields aren't.

Well you invited me to comment....;and when I use "God",I use it in place of humans. Humans are the Gods who create their different realities.

You have the right to decide what to accept or not. All the best!

KingEbukasBlog:
One question : How did an unresponsive unconscious finite universe produce consciousness ?

The Universe is not real, it is nothing but the product of Consciousness,and Consciousness is awareness which is an attribute of you and I. Basically the Universe responds to your thought pattern. What you think of the Universe is what it becomes.

There is nothing outside of consciousness. Consciousness can never become unconscious. Our physical aspect of consciousness itself is a product of the fact that we are aware/ conscious of them. Everything exists in the " Now" and you can only experience what ever caught your attention

The idea of God being the supreme consciousness is only a story of how man is himself is a consciousness being. God is the story of how man is conscious, meaning he has forever been conscious of everything and will always be. Man is a physical( holographic) manifestation of Consciousness. Everything we see today, cars, houses are within our Consciouness. The painter and his paint are one, the Musician and his music are one, God and man are one, no beginning, no end. Everything is Energy.

It is easy to know a society which follows the bible laws or the Koran. The laws in Old Testament part of the bible makes up 90% of laws Christians follow. They are not needed in today's society as we are past that era of jungle reasoning.

But God has been giving different names and softer personality,the God character changes from time to time. But then we hear God never changes? He does big time

First the bible said he created the world and literally spoke to humans in physical form, then as time went on in the New Testament he now speak as the human conscience. The later is the interesting part, God is now our conscience ? But we do know man is ruled by his conscience of which helps him determine what is right or wrong.

The God ideology of the bible seem to be a product of psychological evolution.... Evolved from an easily annoyed God to a loving God, from a God who readily encouraged stonning humans to death to a God of forgiveness and peace. The God who killed Amorites, the people of Jericho for bring anti- Israel to a God of the Good Samaritan, an eye for an eye God to a God of love your neighbour as yourself?

Personally I give kudos to those behind the underground change of script of this god from generation to generation. I couldn't have done it better. I think as man progressed he evolved just as his God/gods

We cannot apply the theories of 18 centuries to today's inventions. Cancer researches of 1960 cannot be used for this present time as we have found better researches. Same applies to laws from the holy books. Back the it was moral to stone witches to death but today we are tolorent and gay people are being seen as humans.

But back to the topic, laws are for humans to determine. A highly evolved society will need no laws. We will expect them to be fully evolved to loving beings and form that heaven on earth society we all dream of. At that point there will be no need of a god, unless we want to remain the planet of apes.

Marriage is overrated.