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UyiIredia:
Based on the responses of atheists here and in the past and the crap from PastorAIO it is the same case as always. Same old, same old.

Seun's has been the best so far. His reply was the mozt comprehe sive as it addressed my premises and most of.my posers. ifenes is a disgrace to reason. JackBizzle and johnydon22, read his posts here and tell me you are ashamed. akintom is foolish but honestly I am used to his idiocy. I have encountered many atheists redefining consciousness as activities in the brain.

Maybe it is good I did not get much responses.

Next time don't ask for answers to questions your brain cannot handle. You have been miseducated and probably a damaged good. You aim is to curse at people you do not agree with and that will not work with me.

UyiIredia:
Consciousness is not energy. Energy is the ability of a physical system to do work. Energy does not and cannot vibrate only matter does. There is even vibrational energy which is energy from any vibrating phsyical thing.



You mean the gaseous state which transforms to liquid then solid.



Humans go through gaseous and liquid state abi! Even diamond? Nice!



I though you said man is God. Or is God real like steam?



SMH. Time and motion are not illusions.



Ebuka please tell me you did not like this post.

The attributes you give to god are the attributes of the totality of man/ animals etc. Physical reality is a tiny aspect of consciousness. What you call God is the " original state" the physical being ( man, animal , planets etc ). You don't sound like someone who is open minded enough to understand that God cannot be objectified. God is not a person or object but a quality that can be attained by Matter/ physical being/ human.

Time and motion are illusion. If you say they are not you need to go back to school. Time is a block on your God attribute of being everywhere at ones. Time is an illusionary barrier to living multiple lives at once. Time gave birth to reincarnation etc.

Because you are Consciousness itself ,the Universe is in you, physical reality radiates from your mind.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . The way you are slaying yasef here sha . If thoughts create your reality , then you shouldn't criticize someone who has tailored his thoughts to create his reality . His thoughts have now transmuted into his reality . The point is : Since you believe God is not real , God is not real to you ; if another believes God is real , God is real to him .

Now the problem is : what is real and false since our thoughts and beliefs create our reality ? And why are you correct about God's existence and why I'm I wrong
Please leave transfixed

Dude are you still a christian? You are too clever for that

UyiIredia:
I am a deist not a Christian. Everything is made of consciousness. Interesting. Explain this statement please.

Consciousness itself is the highest frequency Energy can Vibrate. It is similar to the "Steam" state of Energy that transforms to Liquid and then Matter(physical). Everything in life goes through these three phases depending on how high or low they vibrate. From God to Man or from Steam to Ice.

I will compare the Physical state as the Zombie state where Consciousness "seem to be" limited. It is a state which suppressed form of Energy experiences illusion of Time,Motions etc. The higher this Zombie vibrates, the more liquid like it becomes(awakening) and becomes Steam.

So Consciousness being the highest form of existence is the state at which a particle is one and everything.

Ages in the bible actually represents the astrological phases; the Aqurius Age is here that was predicted for a long time. The Ages will go in cycle for ever and ever until you manage to break the illusion of Time.

No one will come in the sky except the Sun

UyiIredia:
So you don't want to critically analyze your views or mine. Interesting!

I am open to discussion and I am aware it is sometimes no use to debate certain things as you are your personal teacher. What your strongly believes in is what is real for you.

UyiIredia:
Are you an atheist? I am asking because atheists are claim thry use logic and reason. You are not being logical.

I think the stars are made of vibrating cheese in outer space. Consider your statement true when this is observed by cosmologists and astronomers.

The only God I believe in is myself. My thoughts create my life and that is probably different to what people who call themselves Atheist think.I don't bother bashing a god that is not real. I understand the bible is not what you christians think it is, it is an astrological/metaphysical book. Everything is made of Consciousness and are vibrating, all works on how you train your mind

UyiIredia:
I don't like the fact you did not answer the questions. I hope other atheists don't follow your footsteps. Now to your points.



If you believe God caused everything this would be true. Otherwise, the universe exists whether there is consciousness or not.



Tell that to sleeping humans and dead humans.



What is this physical aspect of consciousness? Note that neither the brain or its actions are consciousness.



True.



Man is not eternal. He has not forever been conscious. Men are born and they die.



What do you mean? What consciousness is making the hologram?



They exist independent of our consciousness.



No. The painter is not the paint, he exists before the paint. The musician is not the music and does not need the music to exist. Not everything is energy. Consciousness isn't. Space isn't. Fields aren't.

Well you invited me to comment....;and when I use "God",I use it in place of humans. Humans are the Gods who create their different realities.

You have the right to decide what to accept or not. All the best!

KingEbukasBlog:
One question : How did an unresponsive unconscious finite universe produce consciousness ?

The Universe is not real, it is nothing but the product of Consciousness,and Consciousness is awareness which is an attribute of you and I. Basically the Universe responds to your thought pattern. What you think of the Universe is what it becomes.

There is nothing outside of consciousness. Consciousness can never become unconscious. Our physical aspect of consciousness itself is a product of the fact that we are aware/ conscious of them. Everything exists in the " Now" and you can only experience what ever caught your attention

The idea of God being the supreme consciousness is only a story of how man is himself is a consciousness being. God is the story of how man is conscious, meaning he has forever been conscious of everything and will always be. Man is a physical( holographic) manifestation of Consciousness. Everything we see today, cars, houses are within our Consciouness. The painter and his paint are one, the Musician and his music are one, God and man are one, no beginning, no end. Everything is Energy.

It is easy to know a society which follows the bible laws or the Koran. The laws in Old Testament part of the bible makes up 90% of laws Christians follow. They are not needed in today's society as we are past that era of jungle reasoning.

But God has been giving different names and softer personality,the God character changes from time to time. But then we hear God never changes? He does big time

First the bible said he created the world and literally spoke to humans in physical form, then as time went on in the New Testament he now speak as the human conscience. The later is the interesting part, God is now our conscience ? But we do know man is ruled by his conscience of which helps him determine what is right or wrong.

The God ideology of the bible seem to be a product of psychological evolution.... Evolved from an easily annoyed God to a loving God, from a God who readily encouraged stonning humans to death to a God of forgiveness and peace. The God who killed Amorites, the people of Jericho for bring anti- Israel to a God of the Good Samaritan, an eye for an eye God to a God of love your neighbour as yourself?

Personally I give kudos to those behind the underground change of script of this god from generation to generation. I couldn't have done it better. I think as man progressed he evolved just as his God/gods

We cannot apply the theories of 18 centuries to today's inventions. Cancer researches of 1960 cannot be used for this present time as we have found better researches. Same applies to laws from the holy books. Back the it was moral to stone witches to death but today we are tolorent and gay people are being seen as humans.

But back to the topic, laws are for humans to determine. A highly evolved society will need no laws. We will expect them to be fully evolved to loving beings and form that heaven on earth society we all dream of. At that point there will be no need of a god, unless we want to remain the planet of apes.

Marriage is overrated.

Which of gods told him?

Sex before marriage is very important as you get to know a lot more about the person sexually before signing off "the rest" of your life with them.

Pay bride price? Does that still happen? Who is doing the buying and selling?

Spending the weekend with your future wife/ husband is very important. You must get along in many ways and the only way to know that is by living together before making it official " marriage"

Marriage itself is only a Label. I don't know why people make it a big deal. It is about finding happiness living with another human.

Why must a person love God more than his partner? Perhaps op meant " loving yourself before loving another" I do agree 100% with the later. A man cannot love himself more than God because you are God and loving God means loving yourself

Marriage is no big deal, being happy is. You can send nudes if that's what excites you. Whether you send nude or not if he will marry you he will.

Resistance is anti- nature. Don't do this or that leads to failure.

That went in!

Did Adeboye really write all that? It's childish! No wonder the IQ is low in Christiandom. God throws hailstones at your enemy is laughable. You cannot interprete the bible literally. I personally think the Bible is not the problem, the pastors and sheep( members) are.

Mary the virgin is the zodiac representation of the month of Virgo. Virgo represents the womb, the birth canal in the body chakra. Virgo the virgin is the only female sign of the zodiac. The story of Mary the virgin is a way of explaining the wonders of the star bodies to 5 year olds. Taking the Virgin Mary story literarily is childish. It is unfortunate Christians took it serious. The bible is not facts but astrological knowledge hidden in kiddies story. Jesus the SUn of God and his 12 stars/ desciples is easy to detect.

The problem comes from the misunderstanding of the term " God ". When the concept is wrong, the meaning and everything that comes with it is wrong. Indeed God exists but not the way people have been taught.

God is the energy that created us, lives through us and is us.

The world is not yet civilised enough to understand what God is. All we have is a simplified explanation for a five year old who need pictures and stories to understand thing.

God indeed exists and it's us all. We are all the attributes given to God.

daamazing:
How does the Bible answer? Moses wrote: “O Jehovah,. . .before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the productive land,from everlasting to everlasting,you are God.” (Psalm 90:1, 2) Likewise, the prophet Isaiah exclaimed: “Do you not know? Have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the ends of theearth,is a God for all eternity”!(Isaiah 40:28) Similarly, the letter of Jude refers to God as existing “for all past eternity.”—Jude 25.Those scriptures show us that God is “the King of eternity,” as the apostle Paul describeshim. (1 Timothy 1:17) This means that God has always existed, no matter how far back in time we cast our gaze. And he will always exist in the future. (Revelation 1:. Thus, his eternal existence is a fundamental attribute of the Almighty.

Why do we find this idea difficult to grasp? Because our limited life span gives us a completely different concept of time from that of Jehovah. Because God is eternal, to him a thousand years are like a day. (2 Peter 3:. To illustrate: Could a grasshopper, which lives as an adult for only about 50 days, fathom our life span of 70 or 80 years? Hardly! Yet, the Bible explains that we are like grasshoppers incomparison with our Grand Creator. Even our ability to reason is dwarfed by his. (Isaiah 40:22;55:8, 9) So it is not surprising that thereare aspects of Jehovah’s nature that escape full human understanding.

2 more paragraphs and no answer

Why should we believe it's Yahweh and not Zeus ? This is Fake News!

daamazing:
Ps. 90:2

were born, or you proceeded to bring forth as with labor pains the earth and the productive land, even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.”

Is that reasonable? Our minds cannot fully comprehend it. But that is not a sound reason for rejecting it. Consider examples: (1) Time. No one can point to a certain moment as the beginning of time. And it is a fact that, even though our lives end, time does not. We do not reject the idea of time because there are aspects of it that we do not fully comprehend. Rather, we regulate our lives by it. (2) Space. Astronomers find no beginning or end to space. The farther they probe into the universe, the more there is. They do not reject what the evidence shows; many refer to space as being infinite. The same principle applies to the existence of God.

I asked who constructed your God, you are writing a whole page instead without a simple answer.

If I asked who created you, you will say God, but who created God ? You will write 10 paragraphs without an answer.

daamazing:
first,
"the natural laws of the universe are so precise that we have no difficulty building a spaceship to fly to the moon and can tone the flight with the precision of a fraction of a second. These laws must have been set by somebody". - quote from Wernher von Braun.
1st
Isiah 42:5
This is what the true God, Jehovah, says,The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them out,The One who spread out the earth and its produce,The One who gives breath to the peopleon it And spirit to those who walk on it:

Hebrews 3:4
Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God.

Who constructed God ?

rufuselijah1:
God is real. God speaks to His children everyday.
God can also speak to you if you let Him.

So what is your question?

I know what God is and is not. No need to lecture me. I'm asking if your God told you that?

Wilgrea7:
your last statement and the second to last are contradictory.. i don't care who likes being tied up during s.ex ..my point was that people have sexual fantasies that are detrimental to the second party.. and fulfilling those fantasies is a wrong thing.. my point was to show you that fulfilling sexual fantasy does not equate to sexual purity

I just told you sexual fantasies must be with consent. However there is no such thing as sexual purity. Sexuality is broad and dipper than you think. Religion cannot dictate sexuality because it is alien to it.

Wilgrea7:
i disagree.... having your sexual fantasies fulfilled does not mean sexual purity.. people have died all in the name of sexual fantasy... people have been killed all in the name of sexual fantasy... some people fantasize about r.aping someone.. some people fantasize about choking their partner while releasing... those acts are barbaric and can never equate to sexual purity

You decide what is barbaric to you and let others decide what is good for them. How many people die as a result of sexual fetish? If someone enjoys being tied up during sex, why try to stop that? You may only like missionary, that's fine for you. You are not that adventurous doesn't mean others shouldn't. Fantasies are soul desires burning to be fulfilled. Go for it if you must....I'm not talking about rape, as long as there is consent.

MasterRahl:
Oga, must u comment?

Why not?

LoJ:
Best answer to this thread. Kudos.

Thanks bro

This is part of the mis- teaching done by the church.

Firstly you are Christ. And your question should be " how can I be myself" ? And the answer is simple; be yourself! Do not try to be what you are not, then the world will appreciate you the way you are.

heybee72:
And Friday vigil is worship of the fri..... Better goan borrow brain

Friday is a day for Venus if you want to know. Everyday week day is named after a star body as you know tomorrow is moon- day. Happy Sun-day meanwhile .

By the way the clock went forward in England today in preparation for the month of Aries/ April, the rising of the Sun( Easter)

engrMikemd:
but Islam is right?

Both are not worth a drop of sweat.

eodavids:
Pls, retract this your write up.
Baptism is not a copy from any other creed.
Do not vulgarize our Religion. We are proud of Christianity. So you should officially retract the vulgarization you made.

Moderators: caution this fellow.

Baptism is from ancient pagan rites. Do you think the world evolves around Christianity ?