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Proffdada:
when you don't know God , you limit His ability

what is god?

African ladies don't workout or watch what they eat. Getting out of shape is not attractive at all.

seafarers:
Prove? ...what do I have to prove about that.. .we all know there is God... Even if you don't believe.. Although, I dont know much about the Bible.. But I just believe there is a God out there looking over us.. .this world wouldn't have exist in the first place if there is no supernatural power backing it up.things can't just come out from nothing without something making it happen. That's where God play His role

1.Basically what you are saying is "there could be" a god out there looking over you.This god looks over you when you sleep,take an shit and naked in the bathroom

2.This god created wild animals and yourself

3.The world couldn't have been created without supernatural power

4.This cannot come out of nothing


My questions to you:

Who created this god? where is this god now? how far away or close is it?

The rain falls,earthquakes happen,snow falls,wind blows etc Are these due to a supernatural power and what purpose will they serve if indeed a good caused them

Lastly,what formula was used in creating these wild animals? We do know animals cannot be craeted without manipulating with various DNA,or where they created out of thing air?

seafarers:
Prove? ...what do I have to prove about that.. .we all know there is God... Even if you don't believe.. Although, I dont know much about the Bible.. But I just believe there is a God out there looking over us.. .this world wouldn't have exist in the first place if there is no supernatural power backing it up.things can't just come out from nothing without something making it happen. That's where God play His role

You believe but don't know = equals you don't know. So why ask why something you don't know created wild animals

seafarers:
Coming from work this evening, on my way home I saw this guy in a chemist shop, he told me he was bitten by a scorpion, and this question came to my mind " why did God create all these dangerous animals,insects and plants "
I know we have a lot of Bible guru here.. . I want you guys to put more light into this.. .. Why would God do such? .. We all know He cares for us.

You do need to prove the existence of this god first

thelish:
So u don't believe his prophecies are from God? Who else can expose deeper things of the mind to another who haven't seen u before?

Prophecies are not from god or gods,some people just have the abilities to read into time lines. An event always have multiple possible outcomes,some folks are mentally capable of reading into them. When you cross the road without looking left or right you might get run over by a vehicle which is a possibility of happening or not happening.

Prophecies are usually means of for-telling worse outcomes to events to encourage people change their ways or actions. Usually they do not happen that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduMIUt9M3M

The hell yahweh created?

thelish:
How do u explain the fact that a prophet said a thing that came to pass at the exact time he mentioned? Or he gave u your life history in details? Is there any scientific proof to this since u don't believe in God and Satan?
What's the mystery behind that??
Thanks.

Prophecy is a prediction of probable occurrence in the future. Time itself doesn't exist as everything is happening in the now. There are billions of parallel realities to what we are experiencing now. You may be in bed now,while another version of you is watching a TV,and millions/unlimited realities going on.

Some people have the ability to have a glimpse into what an individual will do next. This is an ability 98% of humans have no access to at the moment. People like Nostradamus,Edgar Casey,Credo Mutua developed the art of time travel into possible future usually while sleeping,meditating, mostly when their minds are 100% relaxed and focused. These people have given almost near accurate readings into the future

Prophecies/prediction is not a gift from god but an ability a dedicated individual can develop given the right tools and environment.

Don't forget today's Science(which is still millions of years behind) have developed tools that can forecast volcanic eruptions,floods,carbon dating and weather conditions.

eboro:
I need help please. How do I draw closer to God and be a good Christian despite all the temptations on campus?

By loving yourself

lustychima:
let me help ur naivety.........d law is all encompassing, eg. u mentioned slavery and rape.......and the law says thou shall love ur neighbour as urself.....u won't rape the neighbour you love, nor enslave him or her

Can you rape someone you dislike?

The law did not include Slavery and Rape. Apparently if you kept the 10 commandments and you are a serial rapist you are good in the sight of the bible god(men)

winner01:
This is actually proof that there is something about christianity that atheism seeks to suppress.

You have been following his posts but have never spoken against it. Same with ifeness who believes in the annunaki, he identifies as an atheist and no atheist has ever questioned him or any other sick ideas.

The Church started killing unbelievers as early as the 4th century. The killing (often with torture) of heretics, church splinter groups, dissenters, atheists, agnostics, deists, pagans and unbelievers was supported by almost all mainstream Christian theology for over a thousand years, starting with the intolerant St. Augustine (died 430 AD). Christianity had a long run as the world's most violent religion.

The Crusades killed 1 million innocent civilian men, women and children (not in combat).

In 1095, Pope Urban II made this speech to launch the blood-letting of The Crusades.The capture of Jerusalem, 1099. When they took Jerusalem, the Christian army butchered almost every man, woman and child in the city.

St. Bernard of Clairvaux (you can look it up) said when launching the Second Crusade: "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified."

In 1209, Pope Innocent III (look it up) called for a crusade to exterminate the Cathar people of France (the Albigensians), simply because they had different superstitious beliefs to his own stupid beliefs. Men, women and children were butchered by the Pope's forces. Rudolph J. Rummel estimates they butchered 200,000 innocent men, women and children.

In 1233, Pope Gregory IX encouraged the extermination of the Stedinger people of Friesland, on the imaginary grounds that they were in league with the (equally-imaginary) Devil. "The devil appears to them in different shapes", said his holiness, "sometimes as a goose or a duck". The entire people were exterminated.

What a shamful past you,winner01,are not aware of maybe due to little or no research about you beloved faith. You are living in a time when christianity is dying out,the reason why you think it is being persecuted.

I will add more;

Witch-hunting - perhaps Christianity's worst crime. Think how many poor innocents have been killed for God; how few have ever been killed for Satan. Many people think 1 million innocents were killed by the witch-hunters, a fella called Rudolph J. Rummel thinks 100,000.

The Church's crimes of witch burning were based on the grossest superstitions - for example, the weather cannot have natural causes but must be caused by witches. This would be comical provided we do not think about what happened to the utterly innocent victims of these delusions - men, women and little children picked from the populace at random and tortured and put to death. The Church should hang its head for ten thousand years in shame for what it did. How dare you defend and believe such a shameful institution.

Protestantism had no problem with the witch-burning, and continued the butchery of innocents long after the Reformation. For example, the "King James Bible" comes from one of these murderers. Luther, Calvin and Wesley supported the killing, just as they opposed science.


I will not talk about the Anunaki simply because it is beyond your understanding. You are a christian. Meaning,you support what the barbaric church did in the past,you oppose science and it will be pointless discussing science with you.

You represent the church and its past dealings. You shouldn't be taken serious because your reasoning and thoughts are 1000 years behind....

If domino whoever has turned his life around, i smile and pass whenever i see his comments. He's been posting such on nairaland for a while and i've also been here long enough to notice it. "But i've never spoken about it because i simply do not believe. The belief is just not there. Same goes with the annunaki.
I would never call his ideas or any other sick if he didn't quote me. I'll probably smile and pass like always. That is the definition of unbelief.
The difference between me and you is that I do not believe in his deity. You on the other hand claim not to believe in God and you spend your life speaking about Him. This is simply my point.
Nothing in this world will make me ever spend my life talking about domino whoeever the way you talk about God.

I'm at loss on why most atheists around the world are inclined to fight christianity. Worse is, even muslims turned atheists too. So what then is it about christianity? That singular reason keeps me eager.

“A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put.”
“No other book has been so chopped, knifed, sifted, scrutinized, and vilified. What book on philosophy or religion or psychology or belles lettres of classical or modern times has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible? With such venom and skepticism? With such thoroughness and erudition? Upon every chapter, line and tenet?”- Bernard Ramm.

Do not share your unbelief with me and then falsely claim that i throw my belief in your face.

This is what happened that brought about Brexit. The large amount of uneducated people were lied to by rubbish politicians just to get their vote. Now they all voted out before inquiring what the EU actually meant. I think Christians are like that. You provided no tangible evidence regarding your claim apart from one old picture of the some Buddhist monk OP and I won't be shocked to find some uneducated folks shout "praise the lord"

KingEbukaNaija:
With the contradictions and fallacies ? Wow , I'm not surprised

Like he rightly said,you are free to follow any rules you wish. Take a look at the 10 commandment. None of the laws are against slavery or rape. Following the 10 commandments and being a pedophile may seem ok back then but now you will end up in jail.

GrizzlyBear:
Thanks for your contributions, sir. I have few more questions.

How is it that christians are able to counter these "juju" by calling on their God? Why do some powers fall at the foot of certain religions when these religions draw power from their god? Christianity for instance?

Can this theory still be used to explain the existence of ghosts?

What about "demonic activity" and exorcism? How is exorcism effective?

Cc
Sarassin, immorttal, Loj, brigance, seun, sirwere, braithe, zoharariel, davien, johnydon22, neocortex, sidL, platteon, valentinemary.

Calling on gods to solve a problem is a "Permission Slip" It is not different if it is being used to destroy Juju or using juju to destroy god.

Every ritual, every tool, every technique is simply a permission slip that allows yourself to give you permission to be more of who you are.

You don’t really need them. But, because you are full, in a sense, of belief systems within your personality structure, oftentimes a particular tool that you are attracted to can make it seem easier for you to circumvent some of the belief systems you may think are holding you back. In a way it’s like giving yourself a free pass.

So using god to nullify juju can be very effective. But it’s actually you that’s making the changes, not the technique itself per se

Example;

Imagine giving yourself a slip of paper. And on that slip of paper is written “I give myself permission to…”. That’s a permission slip.

We can hand ourselves permission slips in various ways. Some examples would be - by doing a process to clear limiting beliefs, breathing exercises to release stuck energy, discovering answer through meditation/contemplation/introspection. By reading a book, attending a workshop, hiring a coach.

Or it may be as simple as somebody telling us exactly what we need to hear - summing up and expressing our inner knowingness that we have arrived at through our own life experiences, but we don’t trust ourselves enough, so it’s more supportive to hear it from somebody else.

Permission to do what? To change!

Same can be applied to Exorcisms and so called demonic activities.

Joshuabase:
You're assuming that God "defines" what is good and evil, I'm going to disagree with that.

God did not write the Bible, men did. Men who "claimed" to be hearing from God. Therefore - you're still saying the same thing as atheists "Men are the ones who define morality,not imaginary invisible beings"

it's up to you to choose what morality you want to follow, 2000 year old morals or modern day non-sexist, non-homophobic, non-misogynistic morals. And As for the concept of "ultimate good and evil" - being an atheist doesn't mean I think there isn't absolute good and evil. I do very much acknowledge good and evil, our definitions might differ on the subject though. Primarily anything evil is something that adversely affects society, God's genocidal tendencies are clearly evil because they adversely affect society.

Read up on general utilitarianism, if everyone behaved like God and suddenly started to kill anyone who had opposing views, what do you think the world world be like?

The laws that govern society have always been based on general utilitarianism. Stealing is illegal because if everyone was a thief there would be undiluted chaos, an action before it is considered "good or evil" is scaled out to a large proportion and it's effects on society measured. That's why homosexualism is legal in Europe and incest is not.

Well said...

petra1:
That's not biblical . Which scripture are you quoting from and in what language ?

Lucifer means "morning light" Morning light brings light after a night of Darkness. In another term,it means to Illuminate, to enlighthen,to give knowledge etc Must it have to be in a particular book?

Significant of life as a human is obviously to survive and evolve. For those who think it is to serve god are being deceived and probably want to be deceived. Life usually is meant for a unique experience.

Lets assume the bible god were real. Don't forget he gave Satan permission to inflict unlimited pains on job while he watched with pleasure. Job cried and cried while his god sat back and enjoyed the show. Maybe your god is enjoying the show right now as usual

Brigance:
if there's anything that is omnipresent, it might just be matter . . .

if there's anything that is omnipotent, it might just be energy . .

if there's anything that is omniscient, it might just be nature . . .

if there's any god, it might just be us . . .

The moment we know we are God,Energy,Oneness experiencing itself in unlimited forms ,everything we can imagine, we will begin to expand and break free from the Matrix that has put us in a box and want us to worship a god rather than seeing that we are the God @Truthman83. The Matrix as you asked is a mental prison wall that enable disconnection from one's true self. Usually built by having negative belief systems that belittles us,creates boundaries we cannot go past,negative religious principles that cannot be questioned etc

The European Elite know exactly how Prophecy and prediction works. Write it in a book, let people read, believe it and fear it, job done!

Childish question. How old are you OP?

GrizzlyBear:
I am still on my journey towards atheism and mental illumination. I thank you all for all your contributions on my previous thread. But of all the posts on that thread, two have left me in deep thought, and I think these posts provides the answer I have been seeking for.

These are the posts





@Immorttal & Sarassin, and anyone else who supports their line of thought, please elucidate further.

Immorttal & Sarassin have pretty much said it all. You are learning what is behind the veil. Actually there is nothing behind the veil except the real You. The mental state of a person determines he experiences. Be the change you want to see in the world and that's exactly what you will experience.

Misconception: "Seeing is Believing" (What we perceive determines what we believe.)
The Actuality: "Believing is Seeing" (What we believe determines what we perceive)

Your beliefs determine the reality that you perceive. Your beliefs determine your perception of reality.

You then immediately, automatically, (and usually unconsciously) interpret your perception of reality. That is, you (arbitrarily) assign, project, and "superimpose" an interpretation onto your perception of reality.

You then emotionally react to your interpretation of that reality.

You then have thoughts about this reality.

Then, based on your emotions and thoughts, you take action.

With that, we then have ;Beliefs ==> Perception ==> Interpretation ==> Emotional reaction ==> Thoughts ==> Action

Once the belief is messed up,the rest of course will follow suit.

When you are watching television and the current program displeases you, you do not try to change or transform that program. Instead, you simply choose another program that you do prefer.

Likewise, if the reality you are experiencing displeases you, you do not need to "change" or "transform" that reality. You only need to choose another version of reality to "receive", by synchronizing your vibrations with the "version" of reality you do prefer to experience. It already exists. All you have to do is "receive" it. You select the "channel" you're watching in life.

TO CHANGE THE OUTSIDE, CHANGE THE INSIDE.

People do not "create" their reality.They "select" it and "allow it in".

Integrityfarms:
am not talking of god but God!

God right? Who is this God?

Integrityfarms:
Why dont the Ooni and his team remove their caps when in the house of God?

God is a respecter of no man o! Adeboye better tell them the truth. Let them respect God!

which god exactly?

He is free to mix up Orisha and christianity i suppose. Ifa priests with him seem to be very tolerant.

Poor Owl

Elohim1:
I Don't See How This Pic Explain That Story She Was Chased By The Dragon(The Devil ) She Represent The One True Church Thats Y Kanye West Sang That Song "No Church In The Wild"

I explained the exact verse you posted which didn't require me to go into details.

No point getting into the names of the twelves months,or "moonth" proper. Why? Because the bible frowns at astrology and this verse clearly states it. See Exodus 22:18 where the bible god( men) said of it "suffer not a witch( meaning,astrologer)not to live." Reason for this to Trap the Soul( energy field in an Avater/ human body)and keep it in cycle. This is exactly what Kanye meant. But not everything!

Revelation 12:1. " There appeared a great wonder in heaven, a woman( Catholic Church) clothed with the sun( being representative of Jesus, Horus,Helios and Amun- Ra) and the moon( being representative of Isis, Mary, Ashoreth,Madonna) under her feet. And upon her head a crown of twelve stars( one lone star in representation for each tribe of Israel) Verse 2, And she ( Catholic Church ) being with a child( as representative by a newfound religion as discovered with the contraction of word (Is)(Ra)(El) cried,travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered ( meaning, to be free and brought into public acceptance)

The purpose of using words like " dragons" is to fill people with fear and make them stay obedient and fearful to unreal punishment. The bible. This is why all religion tend to run in families, basically to trap the new born soul and indoctrinate it as early as possible. It is well known that the gods of the bible forbid humans getting knowledge or inquisitive minds.

Kumuyi is a fraud,those who follow him are ignorant.

The bible is all about astrology,nothing more

Elohim1:
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars

The pictures below explains the verse.