Christianity Etc › Re: Peaceful Debate Between Theists And Atheists Holds Here by ifenes(m): 9:25pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: It is said that energy is neither created nor destroyed. But a spontaneous disintegration of unknown energy resulting in the big bang would have been impossible since energy can not be created and for all things to exist out of nothing, it shows that a higher being was responsible for the creation of energy. In fact scientists have conducted experiments which prove that certain events need an existing force with a mind of its own to occur. Around the 1950s, Stanley Miller, produced amino acids just by passing electricity into the air. It has also been discovered that amino acids are present in some meteorites and certain elements like Polonium which can only be produced by the decay of certain radioactive substances are found naturally in substances like graphite, gravel, granite e.t.c. It would be a miracle on its own for a non-caused reaction to create such. Also, for ancient men to have invented a book (the Bible) that has influenced the thinkings of people, it is a miracle far better than those recorded in the gospels. A higher being? I personally don't believe in higher beings. Let me define what a being is. Being is a continuous state,no beginning and no end. Basically Existence. Existence is also without a beginning nor end. There is no room for a higher being,we could rather say a more developed being even when we are not relating it to a humanoid. A more developed being on the other hand is a being(s)(perhaps in different form) who has more experience in a particular field. Example A manager at work is expected to be more experienced that a new employee. Same applies to a Football Coach etc A baby is the same being as the mum,but only less experienced and as time goes on the baby "grows up" to be an equal This is why it will be careless to say a god caused the big bang. A strong gravitational pull could have caused the big bang or pure human being imaginations. Our solar system isn't the only one in the multiverse, and certainly isn't the first one. A colony of humans on the planet is like a colony of bees in a huge forest. We are only another form of life. Volcanic eruption happens all the time due to favorable conditions. A careful study of these phenomenon leaves no room to a creator. I believe we are all scientists. Some have chosen to become professionals at it,while some like you and I are casual ones. We shouldn't rely on the works of others only when we can make research ourselves.
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Christianity Etc › Re: If God Created Everything, Who Created God? by ifenes(m): 8:50pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
emmkeffs: I will like to be close friends with you. Seekers of Truth are rare in this part of the world One can never have enough friends. We are potentially all friends |
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Created Everything, Who Created God? by ifenes(m): 6:23pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
IsraelMonday: that dAmseL is not reAL.. U knw what.. Why don't u just take a Lighter or Matches.. Light it.. Put the tip of ur finger.. Why do U take it back..? Life Is Not Real..? Why Do You Consume Mountains Of Garri Per Year..? Hmmmm Very Funny Why Mankind Has Decided To Go Far Into Wondering For The Origin Of Their Creator, With Their Own Tools(Science), Very Very Funny.. But What I Know Is That He Is JEHOVAH, The Lord Of Host,The Holy One Of Israel Whom By His Pleasures All" Things" Were Created.. He Design This Earth For Mankind Existence.. Untill "Satan" The Devil(Genesis 3:1,Revelations 12:9) Made Mankind To Disobey Him, But Because Of His Love For Mankind(John 3:16) Gave Us His Son For Our Redemption From That Sin.. But Don't Lose Hope.. That Satan Will Be Destroyed.. But Take Heed Lest Ye Be Destroyed With Him.. Happy Sunday.. If that works for you mate. Your belief is your reality. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Created Everything, Who Created God? by ifenes(m): 6:22pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
IsraelMonday: that dAmseL is not reAL.. U knw what.. Why don't u just take a Lighter or Matches.. Light it.. Put the tip of ur finger.. Why do U take it back..? Life Is Not Real..? Why Do You Consume Mountains Of Garri Per Year..? Hmmmm Very Funny Why Mankind Has Decided To Go Far Into Wondering For The Origin Of Their Creator, With Their Own Tools(Science), Very Very Funny.. But What I Know Is That He Is JEHOVAH, The Lord Of Host,The Holy One Of Israel Whom By His Pleasures All" Things" Were Created.. He Design This Earth For Mankind Existence.. Untill "Satan" The Devil(Genesis 3:1,Revelations 12:9) Made Mankind To Disobey Him, But Because Of His Love For Mankind(John 3:16) Gave Us His Son For Our Redemption From That Sin.. But Don't Lose Hope.. That Satan Will Be Destroyed.. But Take Heed Lest Ye Be Destroyed With Him.. Happy Sunday.. If that works for you mate |
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Created Everything, Who Created God? by ifenes(m): 6:20pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
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Celebrities › Re: Lady Blasts Olori Wuraola And Freeze Over Gender Equality In Open Letter by ifenes(m): 6:06pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Aisha15: weather we accept it or not(women) we can never be equal to men. He who created man out of clay and woman out of man is not a fool. That is where the problem lies. I as a man would not be here without a woman. Women deserve our respect and praise,if possible worship. I would rather a Goddess over a god. The bible/Qur'an was written by men,note that. Women have key role in our society. A woman president in Nigeria will change things. We are equals, you women have been oppressed for so long. Why not? A woman can propose marriage or die in silence. Some men can't make decisions. Our society needs a change where old rules and beliefs need to go. |
Celebrities › Re: Lady Blasts Olori Wuraola And Freeze Over Gender Equality In Open Letter by ifenes(m): 6:01pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
cococandy: If I wasn't a woman, I wouldn't even be bothered about this gender equality thing. Who wants to help those that don't want to be helped?
Bunch of ignorant like-seeking low self esteem women. Women have been oppressed for so long in Nigeria to the point that they think it is normal. After a while the slave will fall in love with his/her chains. Re-education and good reforms is what they need. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Created Everything, Who Created God? by ifenes(m): 5:52pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
IsraelMonday: I perceive Eckankar.. The reLigion of Light and Sound of God herE.. What is Eckankar? I study and think a lot. I have no belief,just better understanding of what the "holy books" meant. Science and Religion are the same. Religion is an elementary form of education to beginners. When your look deeper the truth is in plain sight. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Peaceful Debate Between Theists And Atheists Holds Here by ifenes(m): 5:44pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: Hmmmm. Brilliant piece. But the wave is dependent on gravity which in turn is dependent on unseen forces. Thanks for that. Energy goes in a cycle and it is endless. Everything is one and different at the same time. Energy is one basically,which means we all are One in different forms of energy. Be it love energy,sexual energy,negative and positive energy etc
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Culture › Re: Father Kills Son Because He Was Gay by ifenes(m): 2:36pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
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Culture › Re: Ooni Secure Deal Wit Owners Of Marlton Gulf Club US 2 Develop Tourism In Ile-Ife by ifenes(m): 2:35pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
A wise man on the throne is very important. Ife has a huge pull which had never been explored. Kudos to the new Oni. |
Culture › Re: Ooni Ogunwusi At Maryland Grand Ball - See Photos by ifenes(m): 2:31pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
muri4mig: This is the kind of king you get when your ancestors has laid course on the land.  So much envy..... |
Celebrities › Re: Lady Blasts Olori Wuraola And Freeze Over Gender Equality In Open Letter by ifenes(m): 2:16pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
I see Nigerian ladies enjoy being oppressed. It's good to know. Equality is freedom. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Peaceful Debate Between Theists And Atheists Holds Here by ifenes(m): 2:07pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: I might not be superstitious but saying everything we see is a product of nothingness or of a no-caused effect is just illogical. This contradicts one of Isaac Newton's law which says "A body will remain in inertia until an external force is acted upon it." Have you been near the sea? I'm sure you have. The water will remain at Inertia unless the wave spins it around. The water will not cause flooding if not for the wave energy. Is the Wave god? No The wave is pure energy acting on the water Volcanic eruptions. Energy moves the molten magan into spaces and heats it up to cause eruptions. Is the Energy god? No! Same applies to what Science called the big bang. There is no room for god in Science. I personally will acknowledge a god if it were the case Energy is everything,which is in you and I. Every action we make is a different kind of Energy Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Points to the fact that our essence is pure Energy,the cause of everything. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Peaceful Debate Between Theists And Atheists Holds Here by ifenes(m): 9:46am On Jun 19, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: Good question bro!! It actually is a fulfillment of what Jesus said "Because iniquity shall rule, the love of a multitude will grow cold" - Matthew 24:12
In fact Peter the Apostle had predicted the future decadence in Christianity when he said:
"But there existed false prophets among the people even as there will exist false teachers among you, who will secretly adopt destructive heresies even denying the Lord who bought them, bringing on themselves, a quick demise. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of them, the way of the truth will be insulted" - 2nd Peter 2:1-2
This is exactly what is happening bro!!! But members of the early church spread their message in a peaceful way yet we Christians today spread our message by the gun and by a sword our doctrines are made known.
I personally, do not force my ideas down anyone's throat. But to say there is no God simply because of the faults of His so-called devotees is too extreme for me. I also do not shun science simply because most of its practitioners and or enthusiasts do not believe in an all powerful creator. In fact when one considers facts and non-superstitious faith, they are two sides of the same coin. Homosexuals are just being accepted as part of the society. Christianity on the other hand wasn't forced on people, they were just given a good reason to accept it. But today, it has become a do or die affair. The rate of pick and choose from the bible is phenomenon. I could actually quote a verse that will oppose exactly what you quoted. My point is,the bible seem to be a record of opposing ideas of people in the past. While some are are tolerant like yourself,some ain't. My stand has always been that there is no god dictating words to humans. We can solve a lot of problem if you would understand there is no god. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Peaceful Debate Between Theists And Atheists Holds Here by ifenes(m): 10:44am On Jun 18, 2016 |
Debating about if there were a god or not continuously is a total waste of time. However I will ask the OP a question currently challenging the society. Every time I turn on the tv I see a gay tolorent advert or two men kissing and holding hands. The same Crusaders who brought Christianity to Africa are here promoting homosexuality to the same Africans through similar means like; threatening to withhold charity funds to financially challenged countries who go against the homosexuality society
My question to the OP and others Christians: Isn't this enough clue that the bible is a tool used by the conqueror on the vanquished? Don't you guys think God(white people) are re- writing the script? Because in a few years it will be acceptable and normal to be gay and Chrustians of the future will accept it because they were born into the idea just like you? |
Crime › Re: Pastor And Apostle In Gay Sex In Enugu (photos) by ifenes(m): 9:56pm On Jun 17, 2016 |
mmsen: The pastor abused a 12 year-old boy. He should be in prison. I agree with you on this one because that's rape. But as long as the person is matured and gave consent, it's no offence. |
Crime › Re: Pastor And Apostle In Gay Sex In Enugu (photos) by ifenes(m): 9:25pm On Jun 17, 2016 |
They have committed no crime. |
Christianity Etc › Re: T.B Joshua Gives N6 Million And Food To Nigerians Deported From Libya.see Photos by ifenes(m): 7:14pm On Jun 17, 2016 |
Tithes and offering are meant for charity. Why praise him for chanelling some of the charity fund to what they were meant for.
T.B Joshua did some charity work with some of the charity funds* |
Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In A God Is Self Deception........live And Die Brave by ifenes(m): 7:07pm On Jun 17, 2016 |
johnydon22: This is totally uncalled for if you ask me, you do not hope to coerce others into agreeing with you.
everybody must not It is not a crime to be blunt with the truth. Maybe you need to mind your business sometimes. I don't sympathise with silly folks. I come on Nairaland to share opinions not to please people |
Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In A God Is Self Deception........live And Die Brave by ifenes(m): 4:00pm On Jun 17, 2016 |
Smartanthony: nice trade, but that doesn't affect my trust in GOD Because your brain is with your pastor |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why True Christians Should Not Study MEDICINE by ifenes(m): 3:53pm On Jun 17, 2016 |
It is a sin to have knowledge. Being a fool is not a sin. Clearly the OP is a fool |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Was Given Cutlass To Cut A Goat In My Dream. by ifenes(m): 12:25am On Jun 17, 2016 |
So? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Coming Soon by ifenes(m): 9:27pm On Jun 16, 2016 |
How soon? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Sin, Is Ready To Wash. by ifenes(m): 9:23pm On Jun 16, 2016 |
Jadonjack: Earthkumy, I'm sure you knw how many handicapps are in your area who needs help
Is dere sins greater than that of ur prospective church member to be healed?
Why hasn't god snd yu to one of them, at least one for you to pray for and heal?!!
Oh! Mayb they will not want to be healed!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by ifenes(m): 9:10pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the Bible concerning the existence of a god. Any ‘evidence’ proposed by theists to support the Bible’s various historical and supernatural claims is non-existent at best, manufactured at worst. Another obvious proof there is no supreme god is the total silence and lack of answers to prayers. No Christian can boast of answered prayers. The prayers claimed to have been answered are always the cheap ones like waking up in the morning or evading an accident. Come to think of it, many god believers suffer as much as unbelievers. There is no unique experience that shows a god is on the side of Christians.
Another obvious one is tithes and offerings. If a god really exists he will collect the tithes or at least reform and update the atrocities committed by pastors.
If there were a godd,the bible would have been updated to this present era. A book last updated over 2 thousand years ago is not fit for our present society. At least we know a cancer research of 1960 is no more relevant 50 years later
If it is true the bible god claimed to have landed on mountain Sinai and showed himself to cave men/ farmers, why can't he do it now and put right many wrongs happening now.
Why are Chrustians always suffering and waiting for miracles promised them without one bit of answers? |
Sports › Re: Pictures Man Utd Fans Can Relate With by ifenes(m): 2:50pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
A team with most trophies in England. Can't be as bad as Chelsea and Arsenal fans have endured. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Urgent Prayer request! My Case is different! by ifenes(m): 2:40pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
Slikbae: I'm really impressed by the bolded.
Now my question is thus: apart from writing this on NL, have you ever voiced out this sentence "if there is a God out there, I implore you to show yourself to me". have you?? Because I have no reason to think there could be one. If I did I will check into the closet psychiatric hospital ASAP |
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Blood Alone Saves by ifenes(m): 7:33am On Jun 14, 2016 |
holla0404: Well, I fink every one has rights to his/her opinion and that you don't believe in something doesn't mean that it's wrong, the message is for every one to remember that God is merciful and he is willing to wash off our sins with his precious blood, not that we are literally eating his flesh and drinking his. But with the look of things you have little or no idea about what "THE BLOOD OF JESUS" stands for, weather you like it or not Jesus died for our sins. I pray God helps our understanding What exactly is the blood of jesus? Why do you have to drink it and wash yourself with it? How has it helped those who drink it,sprinkle it on their food,cars,houses everyday? What is the importance of blood to your god? |
Christianity Etc › Re: To The ATHEIST by ifenes(m): 4:12pm On Jun 13, 2016 |
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Culture › Re: Ooni Ogunwusi Performs Olokun On Philadelphia Bridge,USA(pics by ifenes(m): 3:33pm On Jun 13, 2016 |
reetah: Are you ignorant of the fact that the bible is a compilation of books ? for you ignorantly calling the bible fake, MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU The bible is fake |
Culture › Re: Ooni Ogunwusi At The 41st Odunde Festival In Philadelphia, USA (photos) by ifenes(m): 3:29pm On Jun 13, 2016 |
Drsheddy: ADVICE TO NIGER DELTAN AVENGERS From Dr Ben: Keep on keeping on. Pls don't listen t o anybody advising you against pipeline vandalization. Keep it up. Deal with Buhari(Pharaoh), APC & northern hegemony. Destroy your land so that the people of Katsina will suffer. Before you detonate the next bomb & blow up the next pipeline, think again. The Ogoni land is getting cleaned up & soon commercial fishing will commence. Your friend in Enugu that is urging you on is going back to farm, Enugu will soon be one of the leading producers of banana & pineapple in the world in collaboration with a Mexican company. Your friend in Lagos is urging you on to destroy ur land but he is going to Kebbi to get farmlands for rice farming. Meanwhile they have also started drilling oil in Lagos. Wait, Kebbi will soon feed the whole country & export. Tuta absoluta attacked Kano, Jigawa & some northern states & you catch cold in your Creek. Your brother in Edo will soon be supplying the whole country with tomatoes due to Igbinedion university. Are you thinking already? Norway want to eliminate all cars using fossil fuel by 2025. The world is moving on my brothers. You think you are sabotaging Buhari but he is gradually settling down into govt. Boko haram has been largely decapitated & the world recognizes that. Anti corruption fight is progressing. About 3 trillion naira was announced recently as recovered & frozen loots. That's money stolen by the love of your life. Money that could have been used to develop the Creek. Money that would have connected you with roads, bridges & other amenities. They stole it & gave you guns to go into the Creeks. How many among the love of your life can spend a night with you where you are right now? Where are their children? I heard your beloved PDP has zone presidency to the north for 2019 election. The same north you so much hate. The same north that is dominating you. Can't you see they are just deceiving you? You are not their concern. Their concern is the loots from the oil produced on your land. They don't care if you destroyed the land. They have no plan to live there. How many refineries have they built for you with all the looting. They love you so much to keep you on 65k per month but cannot give you basic education to emancipate you. Are their children handling guns and sleeping in the creeks with you? Pls don't drop your arms. Destroy the environment to get at Buhari. But when you are alone pls read this over again. Dr Ben. Very nice! The world is moving away from fuel pretty much soon and what will they have? Nothing but polluted land destroyed with bombs and hunger. |