₦airaland Forum

9Pluto:
I just updated it bro. Obviously, there is no homogenous ijaw state in Nigeria.

The four main languages spoken are Izon, Nembe, Ogbia and Epie-Atissa.

9Pluto:
Does that include Abua and Ekpeye part?

Alabo7978:

funny enough you don't even know that the ijoh's see us as brothers.
in their own oral tradition, ijo who is to them as ujo was the first son to oduduwa who both migrated from the Nile basin around Egypt.
ijo had a personal juju named Adum, the yorubas knew that juju as adumu.

JANK23H:
He is and from Nembe.

I understand what he means when he says he isn't Ijaw.We understand what we mean.

izac82:
Nna ehn, this nairaland fear me. So nwokem ma anhu wu afonja? A Yoruba guy keeping watch over Igbo vs Ijaw matter! this speaks volumes.
All these other monikers could be Yoruba bmc guys masquerading as Ijaw men here.

JANK23H:
Have you read the entire Koller's account or just excerpts?

Or it becomes conjectures when it doesn't suit you.

JANK23H:
I have alluded to this on several occasions.

When the lazy British came,rather than do a thorough investigation coupled with bias,the likes of Crow described Bonny as an Igbo town.

Of course,if he approached a slave and asked his origin, he would have been told him Igbo.

Therein lies my grouse.Igbos initially dismissed the presence of Ijo in Bonny,until earlier accounts were produced.

9Pluto:
But you have been posturing as ijaw here. Did you mistakenly forget your tribe?

Alabo7978:
funny enough you don't even know that the ijoh's see us as brothers.
in their own oral tradition, ijo who is to them as ujo was the first son to oduduwa who both migrated from the Nile basin around Egypt.
ijo had a personal juju named Adum, the yorubas knew that juju as adumu.

interestingly Adum deity was the first deity in Bonny kingdom and Alagbiriye also served as it's priests.
if the founders of Bonny didn't migrate from kolokuma (same with calabari) why do they share the same language?
why did the bonnys worship Adum?

anyways, I'm not making a point because it'll fall on deaf ears.
soon I will seize to respond to you clowns.
I will create time and write a well detailed thread, it's just time.
it is in ijaw tradition to enculturate a slave bought, Jaja was also enculturated to Jubo jubogha,
Asimini made some Igbo slaves free men after helping him in battle, now if you claim igbos owned Bonny, why were the igbos enculturated?
why was okwarazurumba renamed Jubo jubogha?

see major clowns, your lies are like leaking nylon, water keeps pouring out.
the igbos are known to move about for business and establish, reason there is atleast one igbo man in every country in the world.
the Bonny people allowed you settle, GAVE YOU THEIR NAMES, FREED YOU FROM SLAVERY, now you want to be a land grabber.
e no go better for una.

just because you igbos are a nuisance everywhere who like to make noise in everything you do, you brought your noise to spread lies just because the ijo man is not a noise maker.
no wahala.
because bonneians freed you.
I will make out time to expose the lies. seriously I didn't know this is what has been going on in nairaland.
it is a pity.

Putindbutt:
During the slave trade in the 19th century, there was a heavy presence of Igbo slaves from the Igbo hinterland.
Further injection of Igbo people, culture and language came after the slave trade was abolished and all the captured slaves brought recently from Igbo land to Opobo and Bonny to be sold couldn't be sold off again, then the Igbo slaves SETTLED then there AMONG the Ijaw natives. The proportion of the Igbo people to the Ijaw was highly significant in both areas that Igbo language became the common spoken language. In addition, the Igbo language was spoken as a second language by all the minorities living along the Niger Delta and was used as a common means of communication with the Igbo people from the hinterlands.
After the Igbo slaves settled there, it was noted that the natives refused to teach their language to the Igbo people and outsiders but rather they reserved it as a secret language instead. This factor led to the heavy decline in the usage of Ibani in Bonny, the total death of the Language in the Opobo area and the pervasive usage of Igbo language in both areas. When the christian missionaries landed in Bonny, note that the natives did not present Ibani to the missionaries but they presented Igbo as their language instead.
This history is clearly captured in the work of Roger Blench of which a snapshot image of his pdf book is shown below. The full PDF material can also be downloaded here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rogerblench.info%2FLanguage%2FNiger-Congo%2FIjoid%2FIbani%2FIbani-English%2520dictionary.pdf&ei=9a12UZqsGISMO8SqgMAD&usg=AFQjCNFwak52P0FClDB2M4XeYRy4X0Vseg&sig2=xjJrI-zJS26YVTz8QNqe9Q



cc: JANK23H Alabo7978

JANK23H:
They set up camps na and never claimed to be indigenes.

Ekealterego:
Yorubas are more politically aware especially when it comes to things that threatens their borders and territory. They cut it early as it is budding. You can't even find minorities in their religion. They deal with you immediately.

When Ijaws were terrorising Ikorodu, looking for place to annex with piracy, Yorubas stepped in immediately.

Yoruba's weak point are the Fulanis when it comes to territories.

JANK23H:
Ijaws always know their place.Dem no dey do pass their selves.They migrated there and still make contact with their families back home till date.

An Ijaw will only react if you attack him first, otherwise he'll remain at his coast and do his fishing.

If they are as ambitious as most of you say,you won't find them mostly along the coast or rivers.They would sojourn inland and dominate.

BKayy:
One thing Ndigbo should do now is to document their achievements, especially on the Food aspect.
Ndigbo should document our traditional food before it turns to everybodys own.

You see this yellow garrri, when most Nigerians understand the marvelous discovery behind it, every ethnic group especially the Yorubas that are comparing it with their poison (Ijebu garrri) will try to claim co-ownership. And when they do, they will hype it with their media.

If you can remember, they once argued about Egwusi and if care is not taken might do the same for Ọgbọnọ in the future.

Infact, some times I wonder what the job of Ọhaneze Ndigbo is. This is supposed to be one of their Job.

JANK23H:
No it's not part of the Ijaw musical instruments.

There are Ijaw migrant camps in Gabon and Cameroon.They aren't Indegenes.In Gabon, government policies have forced them hinterland and been absorbed by indigenous tribes.

I remember my dad and grandad used to tell me stories of how they would go fishing from my village in Sagbama to Gabon.It's actually very close by sea,like their backyard.They'd paddle all the way and back.

The first migration to Gabon was in the early 20s forming Kala(small) fishing ports.

BKayy:
I don't say things for the sake of talking, and I joke with Igbo history and accomplishments.

The whites are now trying to make the discovery look like accident, but they forgot that they never told our ancestors that Garri was toxic.

Our ancestors discovered it was toxic and as far as I, Ndigbo and reasonable black Africans are concerned, after series of experiments discovered the cure which it palm oil. The whites after seeing a black race (Ndigbo) discover what they couldn't are trying to suppress the achievement.

The whites don't eat Garri because of it, but when it got to the Great Ndigbo, we cured the poison.

To them, their own is discoveries but when black do his own it will be considered an accident. Ndị ara

Ekealterego:
LOL. I am just wondering if cge changes villages every year or month. This time around he is from Bonny.

9Pluto:
I just watched an Opobo group dance on facebook now(Opobo connect) where they won an award in Abuja either yesterday or today.
You guys should watch it and come tell me if you understand what they were singing in your languages(ijaw or igbo)

The song goes like this:
kpakpa ngolo, kpa ngo(X2)
udu ya, ogele(X2)
etc

Ekealterego:
I remember the war they had in Ondo state over land as they were fighting Ilajes for land there.

Ekealterego:
Lol. Today you are from Bayelsa, the next day you are from Opobo.

BKayy:
Ijebu Garri outside Nigeria? you are the Funniest ignoramus I have seen this year.

Until Ijebu Garri is cured from Cyanogenic glycoside which is in Cassava itself , it can never meet the international nutritional standards and as such will be continued to be considered as poison over seas. Any Ijebu Garri you see outside SW is smuggled without the authorities of the regulatory agencies to be consumed by ignorant Yorubas alone.

You can never see anybody selling Ijebu Garri in SE. If any try, he will be arrested

Ijebu Garri is poison because of its high cyanide content. The only way to remove those Cyanogenic Glycoside is by using what we use that turns it to yellow Garri. I won't tell what it is you so that you lots will keep on looking sick and systematically continue to lose sight (blind) as a result of Cyanogenic glycoside accumulation in your eye lenses.

Comparing your poison with our actual food is an insult only ignoramuses make.

Vintagepipes:
Those lists are like the later list.

.................I remember very very well, I saw this list by a certain Major Glynn Leonard around 1899-6, the edition was published ín mcmilian books,
Bkayy
Igboid
Ekealterego
SlayerForever
and our Ejor friends, you are invited to view this
Perekule and Foubra happened much later.

ThickSharon123:
My love, it's 45 million, that's the population statistics. Apart from the millions we have all around the globe too. And people who have Igbo mom's like me that are patriotic.

kettykings:
Buhari does not seem to be the issue, there demons in APC making things impossible for Buhari, oshiomole was one of them and Tinubu,

Grinch41:
Good luck to and please make a video of it.I will like to see you.We wait

Grinch41:
With their Piracy they exported your fathers as slaves.It pains you so bad you can't accept the truth.

Trying so hard to make yourselves feel good.Your pain and anger will eat you up.They were sold off as slaves, slavery is over.Move on!

Grinch41:
I want to make you more frustrated.You dream and talk Bonny all day.Jobless lot.

Better go back to your shops in Aba and Onitisha.

Long throat!

Grinch41:
If the Portuguese,Dutch and British were scared of Ijos,na ordinary Igbo go fit do anything.

Your eyes set on the sea and Bonny oil and gas.Una no fit see am.

Why aren't you as desperate for Ika and Ekwerre?

Grinch41:
The story is changing gradually.No more Ijaws are from Sierra Leone,or no historical mention of Ijos,or no Ijo in Bonny.Now it's partly owned by both.

Igbos left their forest,crossed non-igbo villages and landed in Bonny.Confused nincompoops.

Slaves claiming the land of their masters.

SlayerForever:
From this I gather Bonny kingdom was wide. Having Bonny Town as a kind of main town or capital. Which could mean there were sections closer to Kalabari who would claim Ijaw, and possibly even claim the town as back then. However, the town wasn't theirs as it was founded by the Ndoki.

All the communities, Kalabari Ibani and the Igbo founders can coexist together. But the problem started when the Ijaw became greedy and wanted ownership of the kingdom. Fabricating various falsehoods and using federal government backing to terrorise Bonny Igbos during and after the war.

I remember now, about 4 years ago when researching about Bonny in IPOB, I came across a news publication dated 2011 when Ojukwu died. It was from Bonny, under the auspices of Bonny Igbos Association or something like that, headed by a certain Comrade Ogbonna and he spoke with the confidence of one who knows who he is. I can't remember exactly if it was a resident Igbos association or indigenous Igbos stuff. In any case such association existed. Maybe it still does.

There was a week's mourning or so, declared for Ikemba. And the king of Bonny was notified officially of the mourning activities, while inviting other nationalities to join them in mourning Ikemba.

For the love of God whatever happened to that association!

Whenever I am chanced I will dig up that newspaper publication and provide it here.