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Ofodirinwa:
The big issue with Nigerians and these types of conversations is they don't know geography. What is the connection between Ibibio and this geographical area (Ogbia) I'm referencing? What is the meaning of Ogbia in 'Ibibiod'?

Did you know that you can walk from Ogbia (pronounced Obia btw) to Igboland (proper)? Or do you think Nigerian state boarders were made by God?
And have you ever told an Ibibio man he's Ijaw? lol Ibibio that is 4x the size of Ijaw.

Ogbia language is an Ibibiod language (Cross River) language.

The link is obvious!

Andoni(Ibibiod) to Abureni (Bayelsa) to Ogbia.

Thread on Igbos in Sierre Leone.

https://www.nairaland.com/997451/early-colonial-views-igbos-yorubas

Anonymous15:
interesting, it is now very clear all of this English men in their journals consult mainly the Ibo slaves aboard ships or in England when writing.

That number 9 is a full prove. look at number 9 (Bom) which is the name the igbos called kalabari.
I will be showing you an excerpt where pepple and Samuel crowther properly detailed the original name and the nickname the ibos call it.
Obani is also a name the igbos call Bonny (okoloama)
It is obvious all of these books you paste here were information gotten from Igbo slaves in England or slave ships.
Now take a look at this report king PEPPLE and CROWTHER was sending to the British archives.
"Bonny is called OKOLOMA by THEMSELVES
Bonny is called okoloBA, OBANI, IBANI by the IBOS
New calabar is called BOM by the IBOS"

And in your Excerpt, number 9 was written Bom,and the last line Obane.
This excerpt below will clarify you.
I will also call Igboid to come and view for his pleasure.
Thicksharon123 and ezecanada you both are also welcome to see.
Now compare it with the Excerpt from koelle Ekealterego brought.
If Bom and Obane were detailed as towns, it was obvious these Englishmen got the information from the slaves they bought.

King PEPPLE himself and crowther clarified it.

You need mental evaluation.

The Ibos in Sierra Leone had Igbo union and organized themselves into a caucus in the land.
Admission into the union was strictly on being Igbo speaking.

If we have people from Kalabari identifying as Igbos in Sierre Leone, it only supports what Captain Crow wrote, which is at that point in time, the King of new Calabar was of Igbo origin.
So the common sense there is that at that point in history, Kalabari was bilingual in Igbo and Ijaw before the Ijaws hijacked the town.
The Igbos from Kalabari who find themselves in Sierre Leone freely identified themselves as Igbos, likewise the Igbos from Eleme.

The Igbos of Bonny and Opobo identified as Ubani Igbos.

Grow a brain.

Ofodirinwa:
Ok lol

That father Christmas like type of cap is what Ibibiod and Igboid people share in common, anywhere you see that cap down south, note that there is an Ibibiod or Igboid speakers/influence there.

Ogbia speak an Ibibiod language. So you can now appreciate that cap well and stop mistaking it for them being remotely Igboid.

Ofodirinwa:
I have evidence to prove that even Jonathan is Igbo. Most Igbo leaders were aware of this but the part of Bayelsa he's from is 100% Igbo and other Bayelsans call them Igbo. The Ebele in his name was not a result of his father being an unknown Igbo man (which also makes him Igbo). Its also his mother's language. If you understand this you'll understand why the SE voted for GEJ more than the SS.

Unless someone can tell you the meaning of Jonathan's village OTUOKE in 'Ijaw'

This is a video of a coronation in Otuoke, Ogbia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0UCzPyTvYE

Please Ogbia is not Igbo.

Ilaumoh:
Pls can you be more elaborate cos we don’t understand you ?

You are from Ibeno I guess.

Ibeno and Eastern Obolo have since been mapped by IYC (Ijaws Youth Council) and INC (Ijaw National Council) as part and parcel of Ijaw Political franchise.

To this end, Ijaws will do anything to separate Ibeno from it's bond with other Akwaibom clans , so as to make their Ijawanization agenda seamless.

Observe how Sageb and Kinematics, two well Known Ijaw Land grabbers and expansionists are trying to make you see your Eket brothers as wolves! You think they are doing so because they love Ibeno?
Nope! They are doing it because they reckon that isolating you from your ties to Akwaibom which your ancestral relationship reflects, is a good way to water their own Ijaws expansionist agenda.

BKayy:
Banga.

You people think I won't notice what you did there.
Ndi ara.

What did they do?

I can see two Ijaw landgrabbers eyeing Ibeno.
Trying to use minor squabble between Ibeno and Eket to separate Ibeno from their Akwaibom brothers and allow them(Ijaw) to annex Ibeno.

cc: Bkkay, Ekealterago, Eastlink,

Come and see these Ijaw cunning beings and their funny antics.

Emperor5:
This umuahia tower was built by ogbonnaya onu when ebonyi and abia are together.
Abian politicians is cursed.

Yes Abia Politicians are cursed, but that will only be in relation to Igboland and the world at large and not in relation to SW or another part of NIGERIA, because we know that SW governors in terms of performance are doing worst than Abia.
That you choose not to criticize them like Ndiigbo choose to criticize ours doesn't make them better or your cities and towns better than ours.

ManLikeB:
That state is in a terrible state if you like do video from here to London
I don’t care about other states Abia is very bad

Don't be dense.
Global standard, the state is bad, but Nigerian standard, it's better than all SW states except Lagos.
When Igbos criticize our governors, we are not comparing them with other Nigerian governors, we are comparing them with global standard.
When Udensi is saying that Umuahia is a glorified village, he is not saying so in relation to any other part of NIGERIA, as we don't consider Nigeria a competition, there is nothing to compete with, he is saying it in relation to global standard.

Alabo7978:
A clan or tribe is a CLOSE KNITTED group of INTERRELATED FAMILIES or A SOCIAL DIVISION in a traditional society linked by blood ties and a dialect.

A clan can be big or small, but the vital thing is blood ties and the interrelated families.
Nembe use to have one king before the the 1690's till bassambiri was founded. then in the 1700s obioku was founded, and there are other kingdoms to which were established.
It is growing, and you might feel it is too big to be referred to a clan, but it is bounded by BLOOD TIES and DIALECT.

Now about Epie-attissa, because of the influex of engenni migrants who brought the edoid language, and it corrupted them a bit; perhaps that is what that guy is trying to say, and the other ones are not correlating with him.
Epie-attissa speaks a NIGER-CONGO LANGUAGE, ijo too is a NIGER-CONGO LANGUAGE.

Epie-attissa has another group that speaks the edoid language because of the engenni migrants like I told you, so the other groups who were there before engenni migrants came won't let them pull them.

And let me shock you, do you know a town in engenni has migrants from ogbia? And they speak plain ogbia language which is a NIGER-CONGO LANGUAGE? The name of that town is ogbogolo .
Engenni were conquered by Benin, and they migrated and brought that influence.
This intertwined truth is bigger than you, and it will even confuse you.
Visit the town, stop visiting FACEBOOK
Infact engenni has three languages (one edoid, the other ijoid being the migrants from ogbia)
No matter what, we still hear them to an extent when they speak.
The engenni migrants which even have an ijoid migration faction can not pull the entire Epie-attissa.

Liar.
Engenni has only one language. Engenni language which is Edoid.

Izuchukwu18:
I'm Igbo from Mbaise in Imo state my Mbaise people want to join the INC and IYC political party,we are more than 100 in number,I hope we will be accepted like how the constitution said.izon iibe.

You will be. If you can chant Izon Haa, Aswana! Egberi Faaa!
And prove that you have crude oil.
Language is not a requirement to be a member of the Ijaw franchise.

I can't believe that ChinenyeN managed to keep her non Igbo origin hidden this long.
Even on this thread, you can see her pandering to Ijaws revisionist opinions while claiming neutral.
She was raising all the red flags of of an impostor even then.

Ijaw is a fraudulent Political franchise.

Ekealterego:
This book was published in 1854 by Koelle

Igboid, for your viewing pleasure.

You can see Obani at the end.

Igboid, it seems at some point in history, citizens of Mboli did speak Igbo or at least were dualingual in terms of their mothertongue. Maybe as Aro influence waned, they lost the language.

So Ijaws basically stole the Ibani identity in order to impersonate the Aboriginal Igbos of Bonny and Opobo.

Interesting.

Anonymous15:
Are you serious abi you're joking
??

Are the okoloama people not a clan of the ijo Ethnic nation?

I'ne togubelemo'o
Alendi' o

You better take Time.

Like you drank Ogogoro.
The King of new Calabar was of Igbo descent during this time.

At this time too, Ijaw people were already known as people of Jos!

So if New Calabar was of same stock as People of Jos at this point in time, it would have been well stated.

See the receipts here:

Anonymous15:
I have never threatened anyone physically.
Look at this excerpt from crowther from pepple to be sent to the British archives.

And where is Ijaw written there?

The girls no try Biko.
Orumba has better girls than this.
The organizers of this show didn't try.
What kind of disgrace is this?

Anonymous15:
I will advice everyone under the ijo Ethnic nation to stop engaging with these fools.

They are only trying to grow the pages in this stupid post.

They are even avoiding me because they are no match for me or the knowledge of reality I posses.
All of my questions and replies are ghosted by them, and then they engage others for the fear of not exposing their lies.
Captain8
Putindbutt
Ditaridesciple
Robbstark

Do not engage with these clowns anymore because they avoided the questions I asked them which they knew would expose them.

What evidence did you provide?

You have one assignment: Provide a pre colonial or pre Civil war document written by neutral parties that said that Ijaw is Aboriginal to Bonny or Opobo.

It's been pages and none of you can provide one.
All you do is shout and threaten physical confrontation.

DitariDisciple2:
That's a big lie Opigo never lost any house.
Instead he got extra.

Opigo lost lands.
Go and ask.
Boro and his Ijaw terrorists brutalized that man during and after the war

DitariDisciple2:
Mr man Bayelsa is an Homogenous Ijaw state we don't create lie write up and pictures like Ibo.
We do our things physical.
Bayelsa is an Homogenous Ijaw state take it or die.

You will not end well in your attempts to commit cultural genocide on non Ijaw minorities of Bayelsa if you don't stop.

DitariDisciple2:
Diete Spiff that sent all Igbos parking from old Rivers state and declared all their houses as abandoned properties, carry am dash Ijaw and Ikwerre is from Brass.
He is the present Amayanabo Twon Brass clan.

Being Igbophobic doesn't make one Ijaw.
Ike Nwachukwu was an Igbo man from Abia who joined Nigerians to commit genocide in Igboland during the war, Phillip Asiodu was an Igbo man who is from Asaba and supported Gowon atrocities in Igboland including the Asaba(his hometown) massacre.
Saro Wiwa was an Ogoni man who supported and benefitted from the abandoned property.
Beke, an Igbophobic man from Ikwerre is a well notorious Ikwerre man who supported and benefitted from the abandoned property.

Frank Opigo is a Bayelsan from Yenegoa who lost his property in port Harcourt to Abandoned property saga for his support of Biafra.
Bottom line is that being Igbophobic or benefitting or supporting abandoned property saga doesn't make one IJAW, as both Igbos and non Ijaws were involved in those acts.

DitariDisciple2:
U are mad.
Bayelsa
The centre of all Ijaw people will they carry Commissioner of Culture and Tourism give none Ijaw??

What makes Bayelsa the centre of Ijaw people?
You don't have two heads just because you are majority in the state.
Whether you like it or not, other minorities have a stake in the state.
That stake is not yours(Ijaw's) to hand to them, it's their constitutional rights to claim.
Stop being dense.

DitariDisciple2:
We Ijaws believe in physical and not lie write up and pictures created by Ibos.

The Commissioner of Culture and Tourism Bayelsa state is from Brass.
If he is not Ijaw, could he have been given such position?

Mumu ibos.

You are not bright.
He is a Bayelsan, why can't he be a commisioner in his own state?

Ofodirinwa:
I thought Brass was Ijaw this whole time. Which LGAs in Bayelsa are Ijaw?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YL2lkU79WM
Documentary by Asiyami Gold and Tracy Nwokoma

10:01 min mark: "When people want to speak the bring out idioms, like palm oil, like Chinua Achebe says 'parables are the palm oil which words are eaten"

Common Greeting
Edi Ka = How are you

These are probably the Brass people Captain Crow was talking about in the formation of Bonny, who were part of the Aboriginals along side the Igbos.

JANK23H:
Abei

Stop responding to them, that's what they want.

As them no get work to do.All the time they could have used to better their lives,they decide to spend on Ijaw propaganda.

Just ignore them from hence.

Mr Man go and sit down.
There is no propaganda here.
Only facts.
If you have any facts to counter it, provide it or just go sit down on corner and observe.

DitariDisciple2:
Check the pics above this comment of yours.
We Ijaws believe in physical not online stupidity and lies like ibos do.

What do you mean you believe in physical?
You mean Ogbia and Obolo people don't speak Ibibiod languages physically?

What's your point Mr Man?

DitariDisciple2:
They speak similar thing to Ogbia, Odual and Obolo Ijaws.
If you know nothing about Ijaw just shut up.

Obolo and Ogbia are also Ibibiod speakers.
So how exactly are they Ijaws?

DitariDisciple2:
You know nothing about Ijaw. So just shut up.

Provide a counter evidence that the language Abua Odual speak is Ijoid and not Ibibiod.

We are waiting.

DitariDisciple2:
I pity for those who believe the lies and nonesense Igbo post here.
Brass are Ijaw.
The diete Spiff that sent Ibo packing out of portharcourt declare their properties abandoned properties carry am dash Ijaw nd Ikwerre is from Brass.
He is the present Amayanabo of Twon Brass clan.
Brass and Nembe are of the Nembe Ijaw Subgroup.
Both Brass, Nembe and Kalabari could talk to each other from now till forever without ever changing to English if they want.
It's nearly 100 percent same.
They share borders with each other.
Brass Kalabari and Nembe.

How is the info here lies?
Abua Odual language is Central Delta Ibibiod (Cross River) language.
They are not Ijaws.

Do you have any published facts to counter the above fact?

DitariDisciple2:
If Epie no be Ijaw this kind thing for fit happen?

Lie lie Ibo.
Landlocked dot circle Biafra Republic.

How can you give him Senate position in his own senatorial district.
Are you insinuating that Epie people don't have right to be senator?
That it is yours(Ijaws) to keep or give out?

BKayy:
Na onwerọ oh, ọ na iji ife gbasara akara ekwentị mụ adanye na ife n'ke na agba mụ aka ekpe.

Aghotam.
Mana anyalo eji Maka mgbagbu, ghalu ogu.
Anyi anyalo ator na Nairaland.