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Abagworo:
Aguele is Igbo not Edo.

The name truly sound Igbo.
But I checked Facebook and I found out Edo bear the name too, and I have seen one or two Edo people who claim to know this particular Aguele on this Jamb list, and that they are Edos.

FuckkMOD:
Best looser in what sense? How is that chestbeating?
we do not cry fowl unlike you people. In 12 top candidates, we produced 6, and even the one from your region studied in Deeperlife Ogun State. , so what are you talking about?

You are thumping your chest for being best losers.
You all lost and are behind the Magnificent Igbo girl.
Suck it up and Rest!

Why top 12? Why not top 100? Who made the rule of what number to stop?

All that matters is that Igbo is on top of the log.
If you want to check overall performance, do a top 100 and Igbos will have more numbers than all there. The top 12 stuff is dubious to me.

See the list from Deeper Life school. Out of top 131 students there, I counted up to 41 Igbo names!
That's approximately 31% of the students in that top of the class list.

My point being that all that matters is who topped.
And then the next question is who has overall best performers. We don't have stats on this from JAMB, but I'm sure if one exists, SE will top SW on it like we have been topping on WAEC, NECO and Federal Unity schools.

We are not boasting. We are stating things as they are, and we can't dim our shine just to save your envious eyes from going blind from our brightness.
Ndo.

FreeStuffsNG:
Even if you want to be condescending of the other scholars because you are Igbo, just know that the gold was forged and made in Mowe,Ogun state,SW Yorubaland. So rest.

Give honour to whom it's due, the SW is getting it right with education but I don't still want our boys and girls to rest. If you are non Yoruba schooling in Yorubaland, I have not excluded you too because you are still part of our product too. If you don't like it, go to another place outside Yorubaland to study. This life kogbagidi

You are talking nonsense.
That brain was made in Igbo land through thousands of years of superior genetics passed from generation to generation.

It has nothing to do with your Mowe or whatever you call it.
I mean heck! An Igbo lady went to China and topped her Chinese language graduation class.


I'm not being arrogant. I'm just saying things as they are.
All fingers are not and cannot be equal and Ndiigbo are no brothers to any group in Nigeria. Period!

Poleski:
4 Igbo!! Lie well!
1st position: Umeh Kamsiyochukwu Nkechinyere, 360
2nd position: Aguele Stephen Osezuha, 358
6th position: Duruji Chimdubem Ugonna, 355
12th position: Imoukhuede Andrew Onayeme, 355

Only the first and 6th are Igbos there.
But beyond this top 12, Igbos still have the overall best result.
You easily observe this when you go through Deeper Life Academy result and notice that you have more Igbo names in their top performers than other ethnicities even though the school is ethnically well mixed.

FuckkMOD:
To be honest, I just love my region, we are the perfect tribe, we have everything, but we dont chestbeat unlike our brothers who make noise and always cliam victime evrytime

Who is your brother? Are you okay at all?

Lol! You are already chestbeating on top having all your representatives being used by an Igbo Amazon to scrub the floor.
You are thumping your chest for being a best losers

barbstee:
I think our brothers from the east need to change this victim mentality. How can people be supporting forgery so boldly simply because of tribe even when the original top scorer is still from the east. She should be the one to be celebrated not the one with question mark.

In all of these I don't seems to understand Innoson's stand I hope he's supporting her. If so I'm disappointed

Please Ndiigbo are not your brothers. Unless you are blind, your brothers are up North and in Togo and Benin republic.

Move on to them and leave Ndiigbo alone. We say we no do. No be by force.

FreeStuffsNG:
Only 2 are actually from the SE (one of the 2 SE candidates and the one with the authentic highest score schools in Yorubaland, Mowe,Ogun state,SW where she recieves her education in Yorubaland) , SS has 4 and 6 from SW that produced 50% of the top 12 scholars but 60% ( 6) of the top 10 scholars . So why the hullabaloo over Mmesoma Ejikeme who JAMB alleged of forging result?

Sincerely, the North has to step up but it's good not to cheat like Mmesoma Ejikeme. You guys can do it.
Congrats to all the scholars.

Next year, SW candidates must work extra hard and move up from this 60% of top 10 scholars to producing 100% of the top 10 scholars.

You Omoluabis are our shining stars, our hope and future, quit all the distractions and social media, grind hard , study hard for long hours and practice all the past questions over and over again and remain humble and respectful to your parents, teachers, elders and leaders (iwa loba awure) so you can extend our SW lead as the powerhouse of education in Nigeria and Africa. Yes we can!It is our heritage!God bless you our aburos.
God bless Nigeria for ever!
Check my signature for free stuffs!

Only gold matters.
Every other thing you are talking is consolation.
Igbos came top.
They took gold.
If you want to speak of general performance, then we will have to look beyond that top 10 and I'm sure Igbos will still too.
So REST.

Northern agriculture is overhyped and grossly reliant on FG subsidized fertilizer and free Power irrigation programs/system.
If Tinubu government remove all subsidies like they are currently doing and the fertilizers go high and the irrigation systems become go costly to power as they have to now buy electricity units at exorbitant rate.
The overhyped northern agriculture will collapse and their profit margin after spending big on unsubsidized fertilizer and electricity will be so poor they can hardly get by anymore.

Af0NjaAreLiars:
an igala town
Nzam is currently the headquarters of Anambra West LGA which is the largest local government in the state . Mind you the igala communities are just 7-8 while the Anam Igbos there are the majority with over 70% of the population

So yes they're not just completely culturally mixed with Igbos but they're our people and are doing just fine

Nzam is not Igala Biko.
Nzam is Igbo, they only accommodated few Igala settlers in their midst.
Let's be guided by our utterances.

Dancebreaker:
Okoro is an ancient Benin name.

Okoro was originally a gentleman but over time became used for Prince. Oba's male children are called Okoro. Benin Crown Prince is called Okoro n'Okhua. He's only called Edaiken upon maturity when he moves to Edaiken Palace at Uselu.

I know at least 20 Benin families with surname Okoro.

Liars.
Okoro is Igbo imprint on Bini.
Other Edoid languages don't use Okoro, that's how you know a borrowed word.
But Okoro in it's dialect forms are found in all Igbo/Igboid speaking groups and the meaning is so entrenched in Igbo World view that it doesn't have to be guessed.

My problem with you minorities is that you are always quick to drum on whatever little imprints you have on your Igbo speaking neighbors but will never admit to any Igbo print your Igbo speaking neighbors left on you, instead you try to downplay it or claim it's shared.

So you mean that after thousands of years of interactions with Igbo speaking Ika, it was only Ika who got imprinted with Edo names while Bini had no Ika( Igbo) names imprinted on them?

AutomaticMotors:
My Edo brothers samuk Evboesi sotall don't waste your time answering that boy called redbonesmith, notice after he lost the argument with so much shame he came at you'all like a pained python with his leprous Igboid moniker?

This boy Redbonesmith has been cosplaying as igbo on this nairaland for years but he is just a confused Enuani boy from delta state. Even when most Anioma people in Delta north align accordingly with their Edo ancestry this particular confused one thinks he is more Igbo than the actual 'Iboes' even a full Igbo man called him out earlier in this thread for being "An Igbo WannaBe" .... In my life I have never seen such a chronic low sense of self worth and esteem ...it is sad and hilarious at the same time.

Redbonesmith keep cosplaying as igbo but know one thing "You will never be Accepted" Ever"

Dey whine jesus no worry your eye go clear


Cc @Stoplying come and peruse this thread

Rest Oga.
I'm from Ogidi in Anambra not from Enuani. Redbonesmith is from Enuani and we don't even always agree on issues.
I only appeared here because the topic appeared on my "Igboid" mention.
There is no real or fake Igbo. Lol!
No Igbo have the power to decide for another on who is more Igbo than the other, Igbohood is not a membership stufff. Anyone whose people back home speak Igbo and Identify as Igbo don't need the permission of anyone else to be Igbo, this is why we still have Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika individuals in Ohaneze Ndiigbo, because we believe that Igbo identity is something one is born with and not something another can bestow or deny him.
Lol!

Enu-ani people are too educated which is why your Edo divide and conquer stuff will never work on them.
There is too much ignorance in Ukwuani which is why you lots are making headway over there.
Once their literacy over there increase, logic and rationality will bring them back to Igbo fold in numbers.

samuk:
Kue/kwe in Edo means agree. I can't easily remember another word in Benin(Edoid) language that mean agree apart from Kue/kwe. In other words, take kue away from Benin(Edoid), Benin will probably have no other word for agree. Considering the aforementioned, it is unlikely Benin could have borrowed this very important word, coupled with the fact that those that are now referred to as Edo have been in existence since antiquity.

I believe kue/kwe difference in pronunciation is due to the speaker..Igbo/Edo. They simply mean the same thing (agree)

It will be interesting to know if there is/are other Igbo words that mean agree. If there are other Igbo words that mean agree, It could be possible to deduce which branch of the wider Igbo family that contributed Kwe. It is safe to suggest that Edo influenced Anioma contributed the Osa, Ose...word/names in the wider Igbo language. Igbo, like yoruba is a conglomerate of different/diverse people who contributed to both the modern Igbo and Yoruba languages and cultures.

If there are other words in Igbo language that mean agree apart from Kwe, it will be safe to argue that Kwe/Kue could have travelled from Edo to Anioma and then into the Igbo language.

Meanwhile enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPDfNzQXDxw

Another nonsense as usual.

Kwe is Igbo and Kue is Edo.
It's easy enough to understand but because you are on an expansionist quest, it's hard for you to accept.
There is no Anioma and Igbo.
Anioma is Igbo and Igbo is Anioma.
Move on.

Evboesi:
Osamakue also followed that naming pattern, there is also Ehimakue but it is not common. Both of them means God does not agree and Ehi does not agree. I dont think any of the languages borrowed the kue or kwe word from each other even though the OSA was undeniably borrowed from Edo. I mean outside the name, the kue word is used everyday for negotiation and so on. A word like agree or you agree certainly was not borrowed even though in names it seem to appear more in igboid lect. Edo is spoken along some 8,600 km2 of land. Over 8 to times larger than the Ika speaking space. That Ehi was borrowed from the the Ika and drifted into the Ika linguistic speech form and then Ehikwe was now borrowed by the Edo again does not really sit well with me as an Edo. If we are to talk about Ehikwe, what about Osakue, Osamakue, Ehimakue and so on. I mean these are names with standard meanings from the giver with an intention.

What about those communities on the far flung western frontiers that does not have any relationship with Ika. I do not subscribe to the fact that the Combination of OSA and Kue will have to be borrowed

Osa in Igbo was not borrowed from Bini.
It is an abridged form of "Olisa, Olise, Orisa, Orise".
It has nothing to do with your Osanobua!
Igbos say Olisabuluwa (Osabuluwa in short) or Olisabinigwe (Osabinigwe in short).
We never claim you borrowed your Osanobua from us, but you can't let us be as you keep wanting to force yours on us, what sort of provocation is that?

Many have claimed the Olisa was borrowed from Yoruba Orisha, plausible argument considering that Igbos once had boundaries with Yorubaland before the Edo tribes migrated and separated both.
Even Obi Onicha noted that Onicha people first lived in Ile Ife as Igbo speakers before migration down to their current location, so they definitely had a contact with Yorubas.

sotall:
It doesn't have to be an alphabet for the sound to be there.

Kue or Kwe as pronounced in Edo is fast, together and one syllable.

You dont say Ku-e. You simply say "kwe".

That Edos decided to spell it "kue" doesn't mean you pronounce it Ku-e.

Its one syllable and is "Kwe"

You are a liar.
Kwe has nothing in common with kue as far as pronunciation are concerned.
What is wrong with you guys?

sotall:
Just as there are many "kwe" names in igbo are there "kue" names in Edo.

Here is a list i can remember but there are so many others.

Osamakue
Ikuenobe
Ehikue
Iyalekue.


Now i repeat Osakwe is of Edoid origin, it is very obvious unless you can bring proof otherwise.

The core igbo speaking people do not use "osa" in their names. This "Osa" prefix/suffix is predominantly being used by the Edo speaking people.

If it was "chi" or "chukwu" , i bet no one will argue this. I would expect to hear Chukwukwe if it was an igboid name.

That some people are bearing Osakwe instead of Osakue doesn't make the name igboid. Its just spelling differences and doesn't change a thing.

You are ma.d! What's the meaning of "core Igbo" ?
So you don't have core Edo but you already assigned us core Igbo?

My cousins in Ogidi go by the surname "Okwuosa" a shortened form of Okwuolisa! They are even a popular family in Ogidi, so you mean they are Bini people? Are you okay at all?
Why do you minorities take pleasure in dividing Ndiigbo?
I don't blame you guys, I blame the Ukwuani, Ika, Ikwerre, Ogba and co that opened doors for this una madness.

24SEVEN:
Abum onye Hausa.

Very possible.
We have Hausa people who have today naturalized as Ikwerre people.
They came in search of elephants in colonial era.
You could be part of them.

Abagworo:
You are so so wrong on your assumptions. Ebonyi was once part of Imo and Abia States and have always been as Igbo as every Igbo in Nigeria. The first time I learnt of any form of detogatory term about Ebonyi was at Onitsha but never in Owerri, Aba or Umuahia. I think the Ebonyi issue has more to do with inclusion of old Abakaliki division in old Anambra State instead of Imo State or even Crossriver State of old. While the Afikpo division under Imo State felt at home with other Igbos of Aba, Umuahia and Owerri division, the Abakaliki division in Anambra were marginalized by old Onitsha, Awka and Enugu divisions.

Ogbonnaya Onu was from Ebonyi south that was part of old Abia and initially part of old Imo state.
Ogbonnaya Onu was a governor of old Abia State.
The whole talk of Igbos marginalizing Ebonyi is nonsense that Igbophobes like hearing.
Umahi was the governor of SE governors forum for years.
Akanu Ibiam who Enugu International airport was named after and who was the governor of old Eastern region was from Ebonyi state.
Anyim Pius Anyim who represented SE when SE rotated the Senate president between 1999 to 2007 is from Ebonyi state.
When it was Ebonyi turn to produce Ohaneze Ndiigbo president, Chief Enwo Igariwey represented Ebonyi as Ohaneze Ndiigbo president.

yinkeys:
What does it mean when a dude yells Nwafor Nwafor

True Igbo born.
Like authentic Igbo man, no dilution whatsoever.
All lineage in the person is traceable only to Igboland.

Tukpa8:
you are indirectly writing about igbo... I keep asking you Igbos why ebonyi people speaking different language with Igbo?
I keep asking you why ebonyi people saying they are not igbos?
I keep asking why ebonyi people are been regard as osu people by the igbos?
Why is the Nsukka people speak different language from igbo? Though insukka language can be igboid but ebonyi language has no resemblance with igbo language.
ebonyi language even sound more like benue languages.

Lol!
You obviously not an Igbo speaker.
If you are, you will know that Izzi, Ezza and Ikwo are typical Igbo dialects. The numbers 1-10 is same as in central Igbo, the syntax and words are same.
Only difference is intonation. Ebonyi dialects are highly tonal. Linguists studied Ezza dialect and found out it has mutual intelligibility score of 90% with far away Owerri dialect. I can imagine that the mutual intelligibility between Ezza and Nkanu will be as far as 97% as they are neighbors.

The Igbo dialects are mutually intelligible in a continum, meaning the closer the dialects speakers are to each other geographically, the more the intelligibility and vice versa.
This isn't same with Epie-Attisa, Abua-Odual, Abureni and Izon.
They totally mutually unintelligible, the number system are unrelated and words for basic things are not same too.

You go fear fear nah.
Otilo! O naalie!

Hahaha. Imagination wan kill this one.

Funny

ChiefJusticeFuc:
He's from Rivers .

Stop claiming what isn't yours.

Patoranking is from Ebonyi state.
Ezigbote Nwafor Igbo.

complexstuffs:
Oh... You finally acknowledged there are Igalas in South East

I said it before. Emotional outbursts do not win a logical discuss. It's not even like your acknowledgement or not means anything to anyone otherwise you would have prevented Tinubu from appointing an Igala man from South East as Chief of Naval Staff!

Okpo ngaji.
Ikechukwu Ogalla is from Umuopu Enugu-Ezike.
He is not an Igala man.
The only Igala town in Enugu is Ette and it's a trioethnic town at Enugu and Kogi border.
It has three ethnic groups:
Idoma 60%
Igala 30%
Igbo 10%

That's the rough ethnic demographics of Ette town.
Ikechukwu Ogalla is not from Etteh. So there is no point checking whether he is from the Idoma, Igala or Igbo part of Etteh.

complexstuffs:
Lol.. Stop being emotional and let us discuss logically.

At no time were the indigenous Igbos labelled as migrants or even discriminated against. It is very surprising that someone will accuse Kogi people of not accepting other tribes as Kogi is not like a typical South East state because is highly multilingual.


There are millions of Igalas in the south east and I am not telling you this to accept as your acceptance is inconsequential.

There are no such thing as millions of Igalas in SE.
Millions? You must be funny.
The ratio of Igbos in Kogi to Igalas in SE is like 5:1
Do the maths.

https://www.opinionnigeria.com/the-indigenous-igbo-people-carved-into-kogi-state-exposing-the-hidden-history-by-maazi-ogbonnaya-okoro/

Here is a comprehensive list of Indigenous Igbo speaking towns and communities in Kogi East.
These people speak Igbo as mother tongue and Igala as second language and have lived in their land for as long as they remember. Their towns have Igbo names as well.
But Igala people insist they either assimilate as Igala or accept migrant Igbo who are living in Igalaland tag.
Yet these same funny Igalas want Ndiigbo to acknowledge their people living in SE.
In this country, it would seem everyone holds Ndiigbo to standards they themselves can not keep.
As long as Igala will not acknowledge Indigenous presence of Igbos in Kogi East, Ndiigbo will not acknowledge any Igala presence in SE.
It's logical and common sense. Cooperation is built on give and take.

Ebi2233:
Is Ijaw a parricular language?
Better grow up.

Yes.
Ijaw is a language. It's called Izon and it has related languages we call Ijoid language like Kalabari, Okirika Biseni, Nembe languages.

But Abua-Odual is not an Ijaw or Ijoid language.
You notice this easily once you look at the numbers from 1-10 in Abua and Ijaw/Ijoid Languages.
They have no single link! Not one similarity.
So how is Abua/Odual Ijaw?

complexstuffs:
There are millions of Igalas in South East states of Anambra and Enugu. That you hate to share South East with them doesnt mean that they are not from there

There are no such thing as millions of Igalas in Enugu and Anambra.
Kogi East has up to 1 million Indigenous Igbos, if you want to go that way, but Igalas don't even recognize them, they claim they are migrants even when they are in their ancestral lands and were unfortunate to be carved into Kogi state.
But Igalas want Ndiigbo to recognize their presence in SE.
It will not happen. You will first recognize and officially accord full rights without attempts at assimilation to about 70 Igbo speaking towns in Kogi East.
I can list them for you if you care. Until you do so, Ndiigbo will never recognize Igala in SE. We will label them migrants like you label our people in Kogi East.
What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

BentizilL:
Baba nobody is asking you whether you're Igbo and nobody is calling the Igboid speaking tribes non igbo, they're the one saying they aren't Igbo...

But ikwere are not Igbo, they should stop land grabbing...

Go and rest.
There are people from Ikwerre and all these Igbo speaking areas in SS who proudly identify as Igbo.
But Igbo haters like you rather focus on the loud minority chanting they are not Igbo out of political considerations from those places.

Uche Okwukwu was once APC chairman in Rivers, he is an Ikwerre man, yet proudly Igbo.
But people like you are not interested in that.

You should mind your business when you are neither Igbo nor Ikwerre.
Igbo vs Ikwerre matter nah family matter.
We will use pokenosing Igbophobic outsiders like you to settle our issue in the end. Stay clear!

sageb:
None of them is Igbo
Even Muma gee is Ijaw from Abua-Odual in Rivers state.

Abua-Odual are not Ijaw.
They speak an Ibibiod language.
Ijaw and land grabbing nah five and six.
Anyone living in riverine area that is not speaking an Igboid Language automatically become land grabbed as Ijaw even when their language is totally unrelated to Ijaw.

sageb:
BurnaBoy is Ijaw(Engenni clan) in Ahoada west in Rivers state.
Stop lying

Engenni is not Ijaw.
Engenni is Edoid, closely related to Isoko.

sageb:
Rema is Bini in Edo state
Omah lay is Ogba in Rivers State
Korra Obidi is Enuani in Delta state.

Nonsense.
Rema is Igbanke which is Igbo/Igboid.
Enuani people are proud Igbos. Delta state is not an ethnic group likewise Edo.
Both states contain Indigenous Igbo/Igboid speaking people.